LeonhartFour 11/19/2018 12:34:08 AM#101
looks like Tifa's in the clear

Rank the division winners in terms of strength:

Ganondorf
Pikachu
Alucard
Bowser
Zelda
Auron
Tifa
Sephiroth
Zelda
Sephiroth
Pikachu
Ganondorf
Tifa
Bowser
Alucard
Auron
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Lopen 11/19/2018 12:37:35 AM#103
Sephiroth
Zelda
Pikachu
Ganondorf
Tifa
Auron
Alucard
Bowser

That's my feeling. I think Auron/Geralt is misleading, and Kirby/Bowser is misleading. Bottom 4 are really close together though.
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Jman_maximum 11/19/2018 12:46:31 AM#104
hm...isn't beating X better than getting 56% on Zero?

is Zero that close to X?
LeonhartFour 11/19/2018 12:47:42 AM#105
Well, that's the question in some of these divisions when you look at all the #2 finishers. If you think Tifa beats Vivi, she's got a great shot at beating Ganondorf, for instance.
Lopen 11/19/2018 12:47:51 AM#106
Probably not that far off. I could see Zero SFFing X to win actually.
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Zelda
Sephiroth
Pikachu
Tifa
Bowser
Ganondorf
Alucard
Auron
squexa 11/19/2018 1:18:11 AM#108
Zelda
Sephiroth

Should be above the rest. Not sure who's stronger but both should be lower end Noble Nine strength

Tifa
Pikachu
Bowser
Ganondorf

High midcarder strength. Ganondorf's probably the most likely of the group to be a fraud, since I don't really know how good 52% on Vivi is and that Chun Li match is still bizarre.

Auron
Alucard

Not really trusting these guys. Feel like both just went through easy divisions and will get destroyed when they run into the big boys though I'd love to be proved wrong.
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The_Ctes 11/19/2018 7:46:27 AM#109
So Sans os the favorite to become the ultimate loser now, right

Sans < Pac-Man < Bayonetta < Geralt < Auron < Sonic < Snake < Mario < Link

That sure is ironic.

MetalmindStats posted...
Zelda
Sephiroth
Pikachu
Tifa
Bowser
Ganondorf
Alucard
Auron


This looks really good.
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transcience 11/19/2018 8:08:06 AM#110
I think Seph/Zelda at the top and Auron at the bottom makes the most sense. that middle tier is a little trickier.
add the c and back away
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transcience 11/19/2018 8:13:09 AM#111
maybe this is a better way to look at it. rank these

52% on Vivi
55% on Yoshi
51% on Luigi
57% on Charizard
53% on Red
53% on Geralt
add the c and back away
iphonesience
55% on Yoshi
57% on Charizard
51% on Luigi
52% on Vivi
53% on Red
53% on Geralt
also 60% on Ryu > 62% on Aerith
transcience 11/19/2018 9:15:19 AM#114
that implies that Amaterasu beats Aerith and Squall, too

which I kinda like
add the c and back away
iphonesience
LeonhartFour 11/19/2018 11:16:01 AM#115
I said this in the Stats Topic, but I do kinda think Ammy's gonna be a little overrated this year due to the fact that she's the one who beat Draven. Her board vote (and ensuing dropoff) against Lara was almost joke character level. Same with Seph, but that one's easier to brush off because that's what always happens to Seph.
(edited 11/19/2018 11:16:10 AM)report
Surskit 11/19/2018 1:50:34 PM#116
Ammy having a strong board vote against someone like Lara is not entirely surprising, though. I could see it if it was a different opponent, but I don't think she had a snowballing effect.
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Well, western characters usually don't have great board votes, but dropping 6%+ from the freeze is pretty drastic.
lordjers 11/19/2018 1:59:20 PM#118
Zelda
Sephiroth
Tifa
Pikachu
Bowser
Ganondorf
Alucard
Auron
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transience 11/19/2018 6:52:00 PM#120
you know, I just played with the new bracket for a few minutes and there's probably a great chance to debate if the noble nine holds here. I think it's pretty likely.
xyzzy
Master Moltar 11/19/2018 6:57:27 PM#121
there's one potential noble nine upset that i like so far
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transcience 11/19/2018 7:03:12 PM#122
yeah I like a few
add the c and back away
iphonesience
X-Stats up to this point:

Division 1

Ganondorf – 50.00%
Vivi – 48.04%
Dante – 43.60%
Donkey Kong – 43.26%
Chun-Li – 41.09%
Leon Kennedy – 38.35%
Tidus – 37.26%
Spyro the Dragon – 36.02%
Lightning – 29.98%
Cuphead – 24.77%
Yu Narukami – 24.13%
Dragonborn – 24.02%
Aya Brea – 23.59%
Neku Sakuraba – 21.40%
Victor Sullivan – 19.08%
Chloe Price – 15.48%

Division 2

Pikachu – 50.00%
Yoshi – 45.20%
Zero – 43.44%
Knuckles the Echidna – 38.10%
Kratos – 36.59%
Wario – 34.53%
Scorpion – 33.59%
Zidane Tribal – 32.92%
Master Hand – 26.96%
Velvet Crowe – 26.55%
Monika – 24.47%
Shantae – 23.26%
Noctis Lucis Caelum – 22.89%
Primrose – 22.43%
James Sunderland – 20.69%
John Marston – 19.63%

Division 3

Alucard – 50.00%
Pokemon Trainer Red – 46.19%
Sora – 45.36%
Big Boss – 44.18%
Princess Peach – 43.19%
Crash Bandicoot – 41.64%
Kefka – 40.56%
Yuna – 40.38%
Ridley – 38.29%
Cecil Harvey – 38.16%
Bomberman – 32.59%
L-Block – 32.29%
Ryo Hazuki – 28.05%
Kazuma Kiryu – 25.50%
Neptune – 22.80%
Godot – 22.16%

Division 4

Bowser – 50.00%
Kirby – 46.14%
Charizard – 43.45%
2B – 41.81%
Terra Branford – 41.02%
Ness – 38.70%
Shadow the Hedgehog – 36.17%
Phoenix Wright – 29.24%
Ike – 28.86%
Isaac – 27.42%
Chris Redfield – 25.19%
Guile – 23.49%
Gordon Freeman – 22.61%
Joel – 21.74%
Estelle Bright – 19.40%
Cayde-6 – 18.56%

Division 5

Zelda – 50.00%
Aerith Gainsborough – 37.81%
Squall Leonhart – 36.68%
Fox McCloud – 35.77%
Jill Valentine – 32.83%
Waluigi – 32.19%
Captain Toad – 30.26%
The Boss – 29.30%
Shovel Knight – 28.70%
Garrus Vakarian – 26.39%
Ramza Beoulve – 26.06%
Metal Sonic – 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze – 24.67%
D. Va – 20.37%
Aloy – 19.18%
Hat Kid – 17.69%

Division 6

Auron – 50.00%
Geralt – 46.86%
Bayonetta – 46.04%
Simon Belmont – 44.81%
Vincent Valentine – 44.20%
Pac-Man – 44.13%
Ryu Hayabusa – 44.10%
Sub-Zero – 43.29%
Magus – 42.53%
Rosalina – 41.21%
Lucina – 34.56%
Riku – 32.77%
Shulk – 32.41%
Claire Redfield – 29.21%
Joker/Ren Amamiya – 27.12%
Sans – 25.27%

Division 7

Tifa Lockhart – 50.00%
Mega Man X – 49.82%
Luigi – 48.64%
Mewtwo – 41.90%
Frog – 37.33%
Revolver Ocelot – 31.48%
GlaDOS – 31.44%
King Dedede – 31.17%
Miles “Tails” Prower – 29.52%
Geno – 26.81%
Master Chief – 26.29%
Nathan Drake – 25.55%
Miles Edgeworth – 21.92%
Isabelle – 19.28%
Monokuma – 17.64%
Goro Majima – 16.29%

Division 8

Sephiroth – 50.00%
Ryu – 39.74%
Amaterasu – 38.63%
Captain Falcon – 35.07%
Lara Croft – 34.84%
Albert Wesker – 29.72%
Richter Belmont – 27.78%
KOS-MOS – 27.76%
Commander Shepard – 26.59%
King K. Rool – 25.93%
Ellie – 25.29%
Lloyd Irving – 25.08%
Aqua – 23.66%
Metal Man – 22.37%
Quiet – 16.98%
Draven – 9.16%
heck yeah Geno > Master Chief
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yeah those Division 7 results actually make me think Luigi might have SFF'd Tails a bit
Big Bob 11/19/2018 8:04:07 PM#126
Tails got SFF'd.

I'll just assume Goro Majima can beat Isabelle and call it a day.
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LeonhartFour posted...
yeah those Division 7 results actually make me think Luigi might have SFF'd Tails a bit

I was saying this had happened the entire day of that match!
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Well, a lot of people expected Luigi/Tails SFF.

but yeah as LOL-worthy it would be for Geno to beat Chief I don't think it would happen

until Geno gets announced for Smash
transience 11/19/2018 8:37:07 PM#129
the mere rumor of Geno being in Smash is probably worth more than Mario RPG already
xyzzy
transience 11/19/2018 8:38:42 PM#130
ranking round 1 matches in the big bracket

Mario/Sephiroth
Snake/Zelda
Tifa/Samus
Crono/Bowser
Mega Man/Pikachu
Sonic/Auron
Cloud/Alucard
Link/Ganondorf (you can argue this should be much higher just to see how high it goes)
xyzzy
transience posted...
the mere rumor of Geno being in Smash is probably worth more than Mario RPG already


Maybe, although that would mean Tifa's even stronger than we thought because that match was pretty much in line with their strength levels in the past.

Mario/Seph and Snake/Zelda are definitely the two biggest matches in round 1. I don't see a lot of upset potential in any of the others.
ctesjbuvf 11/20/2018 4:29:04 AM#132
While I don't see the upset happening, I don't see Mega Man/Pikachu and Crono/Bowser as complete locks, and it'll in particular be interesting to see how Crono looks.
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Sephiroth beating Mario in Legends would be interesting because it allows for both Tifa/Mario and Tifa/Samus to happen. It's been said in the past that Tifa seems to overperform against female characters, even in a losing effort. If Mario and Samus are indirectly equal to each other, why not put the Tifa "female overperformance" factor to the test against Mario and Samus and see whether Tifa performs better against Samus compared to Mario.
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ZeldaTPLink 11/20/2018 5:50:28 AM#134
Guys you are missing out on something:

Seph > Mario would allow for Mario vs Sonic to happen.
STElNER 11/20/2018 6:24:05 AM#135
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Guys you are missing out on something:

Seph > Mario would allow for Mario vs Sonic to happen.


or sonic > snake

how much has mgs dropped?
transience 11/20/2018 6:31:12 AM#136
or both
xyzzy
LeonhartFour 11/20/2018 11:03:03 PM#137
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Guys you are missing out on something:

Seph > Mario would allow for Mario vs Sonic to happen.


it wouldn't make it likely to happen though
ZeldaTPLink 11/21/2018 5:27:46 AM#138
LeonhartFour posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Guys you are missing out on something:

Seph > Mario would allow for Mario vs Sonic to happen.


it wouldn't make it likely to happen though


Well it needs Sonic > Zelda and Mario > Samus
wow look at chrono trigger murdering this poll

hope y’all are ready for cbx champion crono
such a weird contest that's turned Sephiroth into the plucky underdog
transcience 11/21/2018 8:15:27 AM#141
he feels like a slight underdog that no one feels comfortable picking
add the c and back away
iphonesience
yeah everyone's afraid of the Odyssey boost and their preconceptions that Mario is the second strongest character even though he really doesn't have a performance that indicates he is
transcience 11/21/2018 9:55:45 AM#143
I wouldn’t even go that deep. I’d just compare through Amaterasu
add the c and back away
iphonesience
LeonhartFour 11/21/2018 11:42:43 AM#144
Lopen 11/21/2018 12:01:33 PM#145
Seph > Mario is the Lopen upset special

That and Sonic > Samus, still denying us Mario vs Sonic
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LeonhartFour 11/21/2018 12:03:07 PM#146
Lopen 11/21/2018 12:06:44 PM#147
I guess I should clarify Sonic > Snake in winners first

The creatures of planet earth boost gonna take Sonic to the upper echelons of the noble nine believe.
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Master Moltar 11/21/2018 12:08:56 PM#148
LeonhartFour posted...
this will be the year Samus finally beats Mario

this but unironically
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lordjers 11/21/2018 2:35:48 PM#149
Sonic should just be happy to beat Zelda.
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Yuri_LowelI 11/21/2018 2:38:48 PM#150
Lopen posted...
Seph > Mario is the Lopen upset special

That and Sonic > Samus, still denying us Mario vs Sonic


Mario would double sonic. Seriously.

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