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Best. Game. Ever. Contest Analysis Crew - Part 4
Division 7: Round 2 - Match 89 – (1) Grand Theft Auto V vs. (9) Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars Moltar’s Analysis Grand Theft Auto V Round 1 - 62.35% vs Shenmue Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars Round 1 - 54.43% vs The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Here's part 1 of today's LOL GTAfest. GTAV only got 62% on Shenmue. That's not good, especially for the top seed in the division. I'm not taking anything that can only get 62% on fodder over a Mario game (unless its mario maker because lol that game) If Oblivion where here (like it is in my bracket, rip), it would win. SMRPG is going to have no problem winning this between oldfaqs and just being the stronger game straight up. Moltar’s Bracket: Super Mario RPG Moltar’s Prediction: Super Mario RPG - 60% Transience’s Analysis GTA5 felt like it had potential to surprise, but after struggling with Shenmue I think it's fair to say that Mario RPG is a large favourite. Mario RPG looked like an RE4-killer until Europe brought it back to earth. The same kind of thing probably happens here - Mario RPG pulling like 70% on GTA5 before settling into a comfortable victory. I don't trust Mario RPG completely but after Skyrim beat down Goldeneye and Super Metroid thrashed Galaxy, I'm not picking against any SNES game anytime soon. transience's prediction: Mario RPG with 60.45% Leonhart’s Analysis Okay, I drove 8 hours to Georgia for Thanksgiving and I need to go to sleep soon to get ready for all day family stuff tomorrow, so these will be quick! GTAV had one of the biggest bombs of round 1 against Shenmue. Mario RPG may have literally no Euro vote, but it still got 54% on Oblivion. That actually looks even better now after Skyrim’s domination of GoldenEye and Morrowind actually not doing that much worse against Metroid Prime than Half-Life 2 did. To no one’s surprise, GTAV is the first 1 seed to fall, and it won’t be close. Leonhart’s Vote: Super Mario RPG Leonhart’s Prediction: Super Mario RPG with 61.50% Kleenex’s Analysis I had GTAV in the division finals in my bracket so whoops. Mario RPG seems like the heavy favorite to take that spot instead, so this is probably the end of the like for GTA. Part of the infamous SNES Boost, Mario RPG looked like a world beater in the early parts of the match against Oblivion, but it came down to earth hard as the day went on. Given its opponent this round, those swings are likely to be even more extreme. Except SMRPG to look downright scary for the better part of the evening before settling down to something a little bit higher than what it pulled last round. GTAV’s 1st seed still baffles me and I wonder if it’ll somehow put up more of a fight than we expect, but I doubt it. Super Mario RPG with 58% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Guest’s Analysis - Tsunami After missing my last match and then missing two straight sign-up topics, I want to get my analysis done and sent in well in advance—although at an entire division a day, it’s actually not that far in advance at all. I’m bringing this up because I’m writing this analysis during the FO3/Undertale match (and some other matches too I guess but who cares about them) and it’s got me in a weird state of mind. Rallybait aside, though, the theory that old games generally beat new games has held fairly solid. Vice City’s performance on FFVIII looks a lot less impressive with SMW putting up the biggest percentage of the day (although at the rate things have been going for the last five hours, Undertale may take that title by the time these matches actually end), so the concern that GTA might actually not flop for once is alleviated. Today’s matches (meaning the ones in progress as I’m writing this) have also reinforced the value of nostalgia, specifically being able to evoke memories of experiencing something for the first time. I created a topic ranking the generations of Pokémon and discovered that I’m far from alone in believing that Gen 1 was the weakest, and it’s actually a fairly common opinion among those who have played through every generation that the early generations don’t hold up as well when revisited years later, but that doesn’t make Gen 1 any less of a beast. RBY was one of the most influential handheld games ever, and it introduced a lot of gamers to a new genre of game. Which brings us back to the match at hand here. By being able to draw on the established Mario name, Super Mario RPG introduced RPGs to a number of gamers that might not have tried them otherwise. Looking back at its past contest results, it almost seems like it’s disappointed even in spite of doing really well, because in theory it should be an absolute beast here. Mario, Square, RPG, etc. You’ve heard all of this before. I suspect two things are holding it back. 1. It wasn’t released in its original form outside of Japan and North America. While the North American vote is far larger than the European/Australian vote, you can’t discount that entirely. 2. It was released fairly late in the Super Nintendo’s lifespan, and in the same calendar year as the N64. Back in the early days, Nintendo kept releasing new games for systems long after their next-gen system was already out. I think NES games were still trickling out in the mid-90s, and the Super NES was still getting new games in 1997 (and its Japanese counterpart, the Super Famicom, still had them trickling out in 1999.) They didn’t stick with that formula for later systems—the Gamecube had twice as many 2001 US releases as the N64 despite not coming out here until November. By the first holiday season after SMRPG’s release, there was already a shiny new system occupying gamers’ wishlists, so SMRPG might’ve gotten lost in the shuffle. But both of these are fairly weak excuses, and like I said, it’s actually quite strong even though it seems like it should be stronger. Super Mario RPG with 64.55% of the vote Crew Consensus: Super Mario actually wins today --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Division 7: Round 2 - Match 90 – (5) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas vs. (4) Chrono Cross Moltar’s Analysis Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Round 1 - 61.28% vs Shovel Knight Chrono Cross Round 1 - 58.06% vs World of Warcraft And here's part 2 of LOL GTAfest. Again, a GTA game struggled in R1 against a weak opponent, which gives me no hope that it can beat an opponent with some strength. Chrono Cross is no Trigger, and doesn't seem to be all that strong even with the old game boost. Still, at this point it's the favorite against San Andreas, though I could see this one being kind of close. Moltar’s Bracket: Chrono Cross Moltar’s Prediction: Chrono Cross 54% Transience’s Analysis I think this match is very debatable still. Shovel Knight made San Andreas look pretty bad in round 1 but when you stop and think about it, is it really any worse than World of Warcraft in 2015? How much do you really trust Chrono Cross? Vice City put a bit of a scare into FF8 - is Chrono Cross on FF8's level or even close to it? San Andreas and Vice City shouldn't be very far apart. I think CC probably is close to FF8 so I'll take it for a close, but not THAT close win. Chrono Cross to round 3 hell yeah transience's prediction: Chrono Cross with 54.48% Leonhart’s Analysis San Andreas couldn’t beat Golden Sun. No way is Golden Sun ever beating Chrono Cross. San Andreas struggled to put up a good number against Shovel Knight, and Chrono Cross breezed past World of Warcraft. San Andreas is probably closer to WoW than it is to Chrono Cross. ‘90s JRPGs go 2/2 today and without much trouble, at that. Leonhart’s Vote: Chrono Cross Leonhart’s Prediction: Chrono Cross with 55.10% Kleenex’s Analysis Chrono Cross is going to be the lowest seeded game to make the third round, so that’s pretty cool! I can certainly envision a scenario where GTA somehow manages to win this, but I really can’t see it pulling 58% on WoW like Cross did. This one will end closer than Cross’s last round, but I don’t expect it to ever be in real danger of losing. It would be nice if it puts up some really impressive numbers to call next round’s match with SMRPG into question, but that doesn’t seem likely. Still, I’ll take a round 3 appearance. Chrono Cross with 55% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Guest’s Analysis - Black_Turtle Round 1 Performances: GTA: SA > Shovel Knight with 61.28% Chrono Cross > World of Warcraft with 58.06% We have a really interesting round 2 match here. Both games looked decent last round, with San Andreas beating a respectable throwback indie game (which is fantastic for those that have not played it), and Chrono Cross beating WoW in a somewhat debated matchup. A lot of people on the board are really high on Cross' performance for some reason, and think that the resurgence of SNES era games is going to help. While I think a lot of people's pick for this match have changed since the round 1 match, I'm going to stick to my guns here and take San Andreas. GTA just has the better track record here, and honestly, I would take Shovel Knight to beat WoW in a contest match. Admittedly, the 'Old Game Factor' has played a much larger role in the contest than even I predicted, there are limitations to how far being the older game will take you. I can see this being a relatively close match either way though. What people are forgetting is that Chrono Cross alienated a lot of Chrono Trigger fans by being a steaming pile of crap, and essentially ruining everything the original game stood for. TuRtLe's Pick: GTA:SA with 52.14% TuRtLe's Bracket: GTA:SA > WoW TuRtLe's Vote: GTA:SA Crew Consensus: GTA 0-2 today --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
No way is Golden Sun ever beating Chrono Cross. I would take Golden Sun over Chrono Cross, barely. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Chrono Cross would probably take GS. but talking about Golden Sun assumes that games like GTA have stayed constant in five years. they haven't. --- xyzzy |
Chrono
Cross could win if Golden Sun has dropped in the last 5 years
(possible, Dark Dawn kinda killed interest in the series) but in 2010
Golden Sun was clearly one half step stronger. Either way San Andreas loses. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I wouldn't even think about Chrono Cross over Golden Sun. CC takes that, for sure. --- satoru iwata |
When I saw the guest name I was like " hes gonna break the crew curse isn't he". Danmit. |
I'm
just studying the results of the contest just now, but its awesome that
Donkey Kong Country 2 has gotten this far. Wasn't expecting that. --- "Don't quote me boy, cuz I ain't said ****" - Eazy E |
Master Moltar posted... Division 7: Round 2 - Match 89 – (1) Grand Theft Auto V vs. (9) Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars but Super Mario Bros. 3 was the first 1 seed to fall |
Division 7: Round 2 - Match 91 – (3) The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt vs. (6) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Moltar’s Analysis The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Round 1 - 74.17% vs The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Round 1 - 56.76% vs Resident Evil So yeah, the MGS series may be in trouble. Both 4 and 5 went down without a fight, and none of the original games have looked impressive in their victories. Meanwhile, Witcher 3 put up big numbers (against fodder) in R1, and seems to be one of the stronger 2015 games. Unlike MGSV, people haven't turned on it and still seem to hold it in high regards as one of the best games of the year. MGS2 should be stronger than 4 and 5, but at best it's still the third strongest in the franchise. With MGS being down in general, I'm starting to think that won't be enough to give it the victory here. Moltar’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 2 Moltar’s Prediction: The Witcher 3 - 52% Transience’s Analysis You know, I have no idea on this one. I have Witcher 3 in my bracket due to continued distrust of MGS2. That game isn't that great and MGSV is showing today that a Metal Gear resurgence following V's release just did not happen. That said, Witcher 3 is more popular than MGSV but not significantly. I think I distrust 2015 games more than I do 2001 Metal Gear. There's some talk about a potential rally here but I'll believe it when I see it. I'm not sure that I'd take Witcher 3 over Resident Evil and MGS2 handled its business there well enough. I wish I had more to say here but I just don't know what to expect. transience's prediction: Metal Gear Solid 2 with 55.77% Leonhart’s Analysis The Witcher 3 was one of my upset picks pre-contest here. It worked out for Dark Souls, so maybe it’ll work out again here! People keep insisting that the Witcher developers will rally for the game if they get wind of the match, but who knows if that’ll ever materialize. Neither Witcher nor MGS2 looked super impressive in round 1. I’ll stick with my upset pick just for the heck of it, but I really don’t have any confidence in it. Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid 2 Leonhart’s Prediction: The Witcher with 50.95% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Kleenex’s Analysis I sort of wish I was writing this after I had seen how MGS5 ended up doing yesterday, but will not have time, so I’m still going into this in a Metal Gear Sucks frame of mind. MGS2 in particular looked about as bad as 4 and 5 did. Witcher 3 on the other hand, killed it. In a round where most western games failed to impressed, I thought Witcher 3 was one of the stars of the round. I suppose Isaac could really be just that weak, but it was enough for me to put out an UPSET ALERT for this match. If it even is an upset, I dunno. Witcher 3 is still super well regarded, a real Game of the Year contender on this site, and Metal Gear just hasn’t held up like it usually does. This could totally flop, but I think Witcher is going to go the distance today. The Witcher 3 with 56% Guest’s Analysis - MechanicalWall Like Persona 4, the Witcher 3 is a game that got to look really good in Round 1 only because it drew what may be the weakest game in the contest (still trying to wrap my head around Isaac getting in at all). And like Persona 4, the Witcher 3 is going to get its ass kicked. I do like championing the underdog, though, so I'll again at least make a case that the Witcher 3 isn't going to get murdered or anything. It's true that there's literally nothing of value to the Witcher name on GFAQs beyond this one game: the other 2 were overly-complex PC games, this site's kryptonite. But I think this game really did well for itself despite that. As we head into GoTY debate season, the Witcher 3 is the one game that is being brought up time and again; it's mostly likely the favorite to win on this site. And I know Borderlands showed us how meaningless a GoTY award can be, but this year isn't over, so the debate and the games being debated are still relevant for now. Combine that general praise with the facts that the Witcher is an RPG, very story-driven, CD Projeckt Red earning a lot of goodwill from gamers with their free DLC and extensive patches, and that the game recently had a huge expansion released, and there's no reason MGS2 is going to massacre it despite how badly new games are doing. I know that MGS2 doing 'poorly' is going to cause another round of 'MGS IS DOOMED' topics, but I think that shouldn't be completely blamed on MGS, but rather that the Witcher might turn out to be stronger than some might anticipate. But yes, Witcher is going to lose unless the match pic is a collage of all the naked tits in the game, kicking TJF into overdrive. And for those of you who cryogenically froze yourselves at the turn of millenia and only wake up to vote in these contests, it's a great game. Play it. Winner- Metal Gear Solid 2, 65% Crew Consensus: Surprising split that favors Witcher 3 here! --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Crew Curse avoided, thanks BT. Also, do people really hate Chrono Cross that much anymore? I understand back when people expected to be a sequel and considered it to be a sequel, but the developers have stated time and time again that it's not a sequel. It was only made to Chrono Cross did about the same on WoW as Paper Mario in GotD, and Paper Mario broke 40 on Resident Evil 4 this contest. Does San Andreas break 40 on RE4? I doubt it. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. (edited 11/26/2015 9:03:43 PM)report |
whoa I did not expect that! --- xyzzy |
1337gamerpr0 posted... but Super Mario Bros. 3 was the first 1 seed to fall oh right I blocked that horrible result out of my mind Huh, Crew favors Witcher 3? Two days in a row I went with what I thought was an upset pick and now it's the favorite. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
If the crew are right about GTAV, there goes bracket. --- XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak PSN ID - Kudaark Steam Name : skaalfa |
Lopen's defiant guest analysis: Whicher? MGS2 gonna crush this scum. Lopen's prediction: MGS2 with 53.87% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Division 7: Round 2 - Match 92 – (7) Fallout: New Vegas vs. (2) Resident Evil 4 Moltar’s Analysis Fallout: New Vegas Round 1 - 55.93% vs BioShock Infinite Resident Evil 4 Round 1 - 58.87% vs Paper Mario RE4 might not have put up big numbers in R1, but we've seen Paper Mario in the past, and it is a moderately strong game. New Vegas didn't really impress against Bioshock Infinite, so I'm not really going to give it a chance against a much stronger game in RE4 here. Paper Mario vs New Vegas would be a much more debatable match, and I'd also give that one to PM. Moltar’s Bracket: Resident Evil 4 Moltar’s Prediction: Resident Evil 4 - 64% Transience’s Analysis I thought New Vegas would ride the FO4 wave to an easy victory over a forgotten Bioshock game. Nope! It couldn't even get 60%. Paper Mario beats New Vegas so this should be no threat to RE4. It's just a question of how high RE4 goes. I'll go into the mid 60s because why not? Why should I trust New Vegas after that performance? transience's prediction: Resident Evil 4 with 65.55% Leonhart’s Analysis I’d take Paper Mario to beat New Vegas, so that should tell you about all you need to know here. Its round 1 performance against Infinite was nothing special. Even with Fallout 4 hype, it just doesn’t appear to have much strength. Resident Evil 4’s strength is well known. While it may be a step or two below elite level, it’s got more than enough to handle New Vegas. Leonhart’s Vote: Resident Evil 4 Leonhart’s Prediction: Resident Evil 4 with 63.45% Kleenex’s Analysis RE4 didn’t inspire a ton of confidence in its match against Paper Mario. Not in me anyway. Unfortunately, New Vegas isn’t really the game to test it further. Clearly weaker than Fallout 3, New Vegas doesn’t have much of a shot of doing a whole lot against Resident Evil today. I’m actually expecting RE4 to do better than it did last round. I was really disappointed in New Vegas last round, mostly due to being convinced that Infinite straight up sucks. Fallout 4’s release doesn’t seem to have done much, and RE4 is a beloved game, so it should rebound this round. Resident Evil 4 with 63% Guest’s Analysis - FFD Crew Consensus: RE4ever --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
emergency guest analysis: People expected New Vegas to break 60 on Infinite. LOL. RE4 wins with 65% --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Lopen's Emergency Guest Analysis: Whaddaya buyin? A RE4 win. Fallout 3 couldn't even beat some random indie game I mean really this is as we call in the big analysis business, academic. Lopen's Prediction: Resident Evil 4 with 60.44% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Lopen with only 53% on Witcher 3 scares me more than anything --- xyzzy |
Curse my use of bold tags and significant digits and banter and whatnot --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
transience posted... Lopen with only 53% on Witcher 3 scares me more than anything Well I mean I think Witcher 3 is probably stronger than RE so there ain't too much wiggle room there! --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Master Moltar posted... What people are forgetting is that Chrono Cross alienated a lot of Chrono Trigger fans by being a steaming pile of crap, and essentially ruining everything the original game stood for. lmao I wish this wasn't the actual opinion of the board. Thankfully the greater gamefaqs demographic disagrees for the most part --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
pjbasis posted... Thankfully the greater gamefaqs demographic disagrees for the most part put CT against CC and see what happens although I do wonder what percentage of people played Chrono Cross without playing Chrono Trigger --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
oof, the witcher was a swing and a miss at least chrono cross is looking good --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
My guest prediction was #1 on the oracle, I'm retiring forever --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. raylan is awesome |
LeonhartFour posted... pjbasis posted...Thankfully the greater gamefaqs demographic disagrees for the most part Well any match involving two games of the same series is gonna be a killing due to SFF. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. (edited 11/26/2015 11:16:14 PM)report |
Master Moltar posted... I do like championing the underdog Master Moltar posted... Surprising split that favors Witcher 3 here! Yeah, so much for that. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
that match isn't over yet --- xyzzy |
I
mean that, I'm surprised anyone was willing to pick the Witcher at all.
'LOL new games' has been the prevailing sentiment for most of this
contest. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses (edited 11/26/2015 11:21:28 PM)report |
Yeah you guys are getting too quick to call some of these. MGS2 would be a big early vote favorite over the Witcher! --- satoru iwata |
whatisurnameplz posted... Well any match involving two games of the same series is gonna be a killing due to SFF. Doesn't always happen that way! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Is
this the first time of the contest that all of the right-hand side
games have been winning? Generally seems to be all left, or a combo of
the two. --- Because it's true |
Well,
games on the left are generally higher seeded games, so while seeding
isn't the end-all be-all, usually one higher seed wins. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
That'll teach the lot of ya to doubt glorious MGS2 --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
I get the MGS2 point if it finishes anywhere from 50.01% to like 60% --- xyzzy |
Master Moltar posted...
DKC2 says hi. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
Stop correcting us guys, we know, we just want to believe. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
CC fans just live in their own fairy tale world of lies and make believe there's nothing you can do about it --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
It's not a world of lies it's a world of dreams. RADICAL DREAMS --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
glad to see RacistFAQs is still in action --- Communists |