Whoops sorry forgot all about this.

Kinda down in the contest in general.
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Suikoden II vs. Journey who you got
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Guest’s Analysis - ShatteredElysium

Poor Suikoden II, every contest it gets into it runs into an absolute monster. First it was fed to eventual 2k4 winner FFVII and now it runs into OoT after that ridiculous round 1 showing by the pre-contest favorite.

This technically gives us a direct comparison between FFVII and OoT so I'm sure parallels will be drawn. Personally I don't think it's worth looking into too much given the massive timegap between the two matches. At first glance I wanted to say I would be amazed if OoT put up the same number as FFVII but after that first round showing, I would not be surprised at all if it managed to match it.

I think OoT will fall a little bit short of that figure in the end but it's undoubtedly going to be a huge blowout. It's a bit of a shame that OoT's path to the final is just going to be one blowout or SFF-fest after another but it is what it is. As for poor Suikoden II, at least they can never take that win away from you.

Shattered's prediction: Ocarina of Time - 83.4% (which totally won't end matching my oracle prediction!)


Crew Consensus: Obvious result is obvious


lmao

It seems we have the GameFAQs moderators' opinion on that great debate: 'What is the past tense of "shit"?'

Sorry that your username apparently can't get past the profanity filter, dude.
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X vs. Y jokes aside, this seems like a really uninspiring performance from OoT

wonder what's up
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doesn't matter, nothing on the bottom half can threaten it
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No, but this might throw a wrench into the "Ocarina will stop Undertale" hopes and dreams.
that's all they ever were
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 59.05% 29999
GoldenEye 007 40.95% 20802
TOTAL VOTES 50801

Metroid Prime 57.95% 28882
Half-Life 2 42.05% 20959
TOTAL VOTES 49841

Super Mario 64 66.23% 34034
Final Fantasy Tactics 33.77% 17357
TOTAL VOTES 51391

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 65.27% 33226
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 34.73% 17677
TOTAL VOTES 50903

Crew Predictions: 75/80

What Happened: Skyrim and Metroid Prime turn debatable matches into blowouts. Mario and TP do the expected.

What Will Happen: Skyrim/MP is a big one

Crew Prediction Challenge: points except for Leonhart

Leonhart: 74
Moltar: 74
Guest: 71
transience: 70
Kleenex: 70

Crew Accuracy Challenge: Kleenex gets Skyrim, tran gets Metroid and Zelda, Moltar gets Mario

Leonhart: 18
Kleenex: 16
Moltar: 15
transience: 14.5
Guest: 12.5
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it's okay I'm getting that point back today

never doubt DKC2
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11/25/2015 4:35:44 PM#113
My bracket has DKC2 > SotN in this division

I mean

I could've picked worse, but...
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11/25/2015 5:14:49 PM#114
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
forget undertale, dkc2 winning two matches is the real disaster this year


pls leave this website forever

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11/25/2015 7:23:23 PM#116
Division 6: Round 2 - Match 85 – (1) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs. (9) Final Fantasy IV

Moltar’s Analysis

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Round 1 - 88.02% vs Cave Story

Final Fantasy IV
Round 1 - 69.77% vs Deus Ex

So OoT can barely triple the what we previously thought was fodder but maybe not but it's still pretty weak Suikoden II. Does that mean a stronger looking FF4 can pull off the upset against LttP?

Hahaha

Ha

No

Figure this will go similarly to SM64/FFT.

Moltar’s Bracket: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

Moltar’s Prediction: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past – 66%



Transience’s Analysis

FF4 could have been a real contest spoiler in the right spot. It whipped Deus Ex and is part of the SNES generation that's doing so well. It can't hang with LTTP at all though. FF6 would have a hard time doing so and FF4 is a poor man's FF6.

I feel like classic Zelda/Mario vs. Final Fantasy matches turn into franchise voting fests -- FF1 once put 40% on Mario 3 despite no one actually liking FF1 -- so I don't think FF4 gets absolutely destroyed. FF4 feels like a fraud propped up by its series so it probably should go down easily against a contest monster like LTTP but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say it'll avoid the doubling.

transience's prediction: Link to the Past with 64.46%



Leonhart’s Analysis

This is the third contender for our strongest non-FFVII/OoT game in a few days to face off against a Final Fantasy game. Mario World’s performance against FFVIII was inflated by the Undertale rally, but it looked to be about 64-65% before everything kicked into high gear. Mario 64 got 66% against Final Fantasy Tactics. I think LttP is probably stronger than both Mario games and FFIV shouldn’t be too far off from the other two FF games. Put it all together and you get…

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy IV

Leonhart’s Prediction: A Link to the Past with 70.07%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Ocarina didn’t fare so well yesterday for whatever reason, but I feel like LttP will probably do better. It’s going to SNES boost SFF its opponent. This is going to be a thing now, so watch out. FF4 is certainly a more formidable game than Suikoden 2 is, but LttP should come out of this looking pretty good. A doubling is what it should look for, and anything better is just gravy in my mind. Too much less and the ROUND 2 ZELDA DEBOOST will be in full effect.

Zelda: A Link to the Past with 67%



Guest’s Analysis - Ultimaphazon

Final Fantasy IV had one of the worst possible draws. You'd think Allen would give his favorite game a better draw than to have it massacred in round 2 by one of the strongest games in the contest. In a different bracket spot, it could have had some debatable matches, but not here. FFIV is a clear step below FFVI, and even that one wouldn't have a chance against LttP.

LttP will win this one, and it's not going to be even remotely close. FFIV can probably avoid the doubling, but I doubt it will do much better than that.

Prediction: Zelda with 64.58%



Crew Consensus: Another FF games goes down to Zelda
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11/25/2015 8:07:12 PM#117
Division 6: Round 2 - Match 86 – (5) Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain vs. (4) Dark Souls

Moltar’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Round 1 - 54.67% vs Perfect Dark

Dark Souls
Round 1 - 66.70% vs Sid Meier's Civilization V

So MGS kind of hasn’t looked good at all this contest. A lot of people saw 55% on Perfect Dark as disappointing, but I guess I was anticipating a disappointing performance because I wasn’t surprised.

After both entrants had their Round 1 matches, I was still feeling alright about MGSV here, but I don’t know anymore. Yeah, MGS has its series fans, but after 4 and 5, it looks like a segment of the fans have moved on from the series. Dark Souls and its brethren games feel more in favor with the general public right now.

I’m thinking Dark Souls takes it in a close one.

Moltar’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

Moltar’s Prediction: Dark Souls – 52%



Transience’s Analysis

I have Dark Souls in my bracket. Bloodborne showed that the Souls series was decent and Metal Gear 4/5 have been underwhelming for sure. Add in that new games outside of Undertale are bombing and it's kind of easy to pick Dark Souls here.

Metal Gear has some brand name loyalty that could rear its ugly head if Dark Souls isn't widely known or respected. I wouldn't be super surprised to see that. I don't know though.. I think the Dark Souls name gets around pretty well these days and it's a more respected game than Metal Gear Solid V. I feel comfortable picking it.

Some people have talked about a potential rally but I think the source -- some person rallying for Undertale being in the Dark Souls fan community -- is more than a little sketchy. I did say pre-contest though that Dark Souls over LTTP was as good of a crazy upset/rally pick than anything though, so we'll see!

transience's prediction: Dark Souls with 54.68%



Leonhart’s Analysis

Dark Souls was one of my upset specials pre-contest, and nothing we saw round one dissuaded me from believing it can win here. It’s hard to tell how much Dark Souls’ win over Civilization V was really worth, but at least it got a pretty high percentage, unlike MGSV against Perfect Dark. I suppose the only thing really having me nervous about Dark Souls is how bad Demon’s Souls looked against Half-Life 2, which just got rocked by Metroid Prime. Then again, we saw the gap between Persona 3 and Persona 4 is apparently humongous, so I guess I should hope it’s the same here!

Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid V

Leonhart’s Prediction: Dark Souls with 52.50%
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11/25/2015 8:07:16 PM#118
Kleenex’s Analysis

Metal Gear did not look great last round. MGSV especially really disappointed against a game that quite frankly isn’t worth a whole lot. The upside is that it makes this round way more interesting than it could have been if Metal Gear was at full strength. Dark Souls did well enough on an even weaker opponent than Perfect Dark so I my mind this match is probably pretty close to even without taking anything else into account. I do think, though, that in the case of something close, Dark Souls is a huge favorite. The fanbase is way more rabid than Metal Gear could ever hope and I would not be surprised to see somewhat of a mini-rally here if need be. I could be totally wrong about this, but I’m feeling pretty good about Dark Souls here.

Dark Souls with 53%



Guest’s Analysis - Luster Soldier

After the somewhat disappointing performance from MGSV in round 1 and new games generally bombing left and right, I have to back out of choosing MGSV to win another match even if I might have it in my bracket. I am a bit skeptical of MGSV winning another match considering how new the game is.

Dark Souls put up a good showing in round 1 against Civilization V, proving that it has a chance of winning another match. Dark Souls has also been around longer than MGSV and is a last-gen game, so Dark Souls should have a higher playrate than MGSV. That gives Dark Souls one advantage over MGSV in this match.

Luster Soldier's Bracket: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Luster Soldier's Prediction: Dark Souls - 53.18%



Crew Consensus: DS played MGSV like a damn fiddle
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whelp
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super metroid/galaxy hype

wonder how the crew goes. i predict 3-2 either way
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11/25/2015 8:11:59 PM#121
good call
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moltar I want to let you know that I appreciate your writeups always including prior results in them

so much easier to not have to look those up
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wait there are people taking Galaxy?

huh
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Crew on that Dark Souls bandwagon. I think I am, as well.
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11/25/2015 8:52:09 PM#126
Division 6: Round 2 - Match 87 – (3) Super Metroid vs. (6) Super Mario Galaxy

Moltar’s Analysis

Super Metroid
Round 1 - 79.46% vs Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

Super Mario Galaxy
Round 1 - 64.04% vs Dragon Age: Origins

In another edition of ‘Going Against my Bracket’, we’ve got this match here. It’s basically Samus/Mario again as the only thing Mario really has going for it is that it’s on top in the Nintendo hierarchy. I mean, that was all it took the last time those two faced off, so you know it's a legitimate argument for Game of the Forever.

SM had an amazing showing in R1 while Galaxy only looked okay. Super Metroid is indirectly the stronger game of the two. The problem is that whenever Metroid runs into Mario or Zelda, it lays down and gets rolled over. It's happened so many times, it seems silly at this point to go against the hierarchy.

And yet, I’m thinking the strength gap between the two games is too much for Galaxy to overcome, especially with old games looking very good this contest.

Oh well, sunk with the Samus > Mario ship, may as well ride this to the end too (even though I only jumped on last round HERE WE GO).

Moltar’s Bracket: Super Mario Galaxy

Moltar’s Prediction: Super Metroid – 58%



Transience’s Analysis

Alright, let's do this. Let's list all of the reasons that Super Metroid will beat Super Mario Galaxy.

* Super Metroid is a more influential/important game. It basically created a blueprint that people still follow today. This game is still considered the high point of that genre. It's the most atmospheric game on the SNES and has to be considered one of the 3 or 4 most important titles released for it.

* The site has overwhelmingly backed 90s games.

* New Nintendo - from the Wii to the Wii U - has been disappointing like crazy. Galaxy 2 already lost in hilarious fashion and Mario Maker was one of the bigger bombs in recent memory. Even Smash 4 has looked bad.

* Its performance was one of the very best of the first round. 79% on Call of Duty 4 was a massacre. Metroid Prime has also looked great, as has SOTN, its spiritual half-brother.

* It's the best goddamn video game ever made.

And here's why Galaxy has a chance:

* It's a Mario game.

Yeah, that's it. Every trend points to an easy Super Metroid win. "It's Mario" has been exposed left and right this contest. Some people are even entertaining Super Metroid over Majora's Mask. It's especially hard to go against a SNES game these days.

But you know.. Super Metroid is a fraud on this website. Metroid is a game with wide appeal -- Nintendo fans like it but so do fans of atmospheric/moody/exploration/influential games -- and that appeal lets it go to town on a game like Call of Duty. Take away that Nintendo base though and it's not great. I mean, this is a game that nearly lost to Super Mario Kart. That game would have beaten half the bracket, but still, it's not encouraging. Do you trust the big performance on an FPS on GameFAQs, or do you trust the fact that it couldn't handle Nintendo to the point that Mario Kart put a big scare into it?
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11/25/2015 8:52:14 PM#127
Galaxy 2 came out after the Wii was a joke, but Galaxy was there for the good years. The TP/Galaxy/Brawl triumvirate is the heart of the Wii hype on this website and Galaxy can still put up some nice performances. 65% on Dragon Age is much better than 49% on Mass Effect. People didn't take to Galaxy like they did Mario 64 but that's just a function of its age. As this game gets older, it probably gets stronger. For everything that you can say about Super Metroid, it's still not the highest rated game in history. That honor goes to Mario Galaxy.

Prove me wrong, Super Metroid. Show for once in your contest life that you aren't a contest fraud.

transience's prediction: Super Mario Galaxy with 54.67%



Leonhart’s Analysis

Super Metroid had one of the most surprisingly dominant performances from round 1 with a quadrupling of Call of Duty 4. Super Mario Galaxy had a solid showing against Dragon Age. Modern Mario in general has looked pretty bad so far, but if any game is going to be the exception, it’s Super Mario Galaxy. Super Nintendo has looked pretty unstoppable thus far, but if any game is going to be the exception, it’s Super Metroid.

Part of me wants to be stubborn and stick with Super Mario Galaxy because I’m pretty sure everyone else is jumping ship to Super Metroid. If it can’t win here, it should be the turd of the contest and a laughingstock forever. I guess that’s what I’m rooting for!

Leonhart’s Vote: Super Mario Galaxy

Leonhart’s Prediction: Super Mario Galaxy with 51.25%



Kleenex’s Analysis

This is a good match to see if Metroid is legit. I don’t have a ton of faith in SM’s natural strength, but there’s no denying that it was very impressive last round. Certainly you can place the blame on Call of Duty to some extent, but Metroid deserves a lot of the credit. Galaxy is already a weaker game, so it will be interesting to see if Metroid can SFF it and to what degree. I’d expect another solid performance today and you can probably expect some Super Metroid > Majora rumblings it things get too far out of control.

Super Metroid with 66%



Guest’s Analysis - Dr Football

So when yours truly was filling out his bracket, I looked at this match, spent 5 seconds thinking about it, and picked Super Metroid. Unfortunately for as much as I know (or get extremely lucky about) character strength, I’ve never done well in games contests. So I was surprised that Galaxy was the big guru favorite.

But with Galaxy 2 losing to Mass Effect, Brawl not making the bracket, and in general old games ruling so far, it appears people just want to forget the Wii existed. I am slightly afraid of the general "Mario > Samus” hierarchy, but I think this match will be one of the many daggers in the back of new games doing anything this contest, and if anything, people will be surprised how easily Metroid wins here.

(as an aside, with Thanksgiving tomorrow, I want to say Im thankful for this topic and this crew. Its been one of my favorite topics for years, and its one of the things I look forward to most when contests arrive. Thanks y’all)


Super Metroid - 59.75%
Super Mario Galaxy - 40.25%



Crew Consensus: Slightly favoring Metroid > Mario, this doesn't seem right...
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It's hard for me to get past the whole Mario > Metroid thing. But I'm starting to think it's possible for Super Metroid to pull it off. The difference in game strength could just be high enough to reverse the SFF.
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11/25/2015 9:20:16 PM#129
Is that 66% a typo or
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those Super Metroid picks are nuts. 66%? let's do this
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I would have expected MGSV/Dark Souls to be split and SMG/SM to be a sweep in favor of Metroid but what do I know
11/25/2015 9:37:40 PM#132
AppIekidjosh posted...
Is that 66% a typo or

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there's been a surprising lack of that this year
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oh it's real and it's spectacular
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I was hoping to be the high pick.

DFF has been dead for about 3-4 years now, time for it to rise!
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11/25/2015 10:01:23 PM#136
Division 6: Round 2 - Match 88 – (10) Final Fantasy XII vs. (2) The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

Moltar’s Analysis

Final Fantasy XII
Round 1 - 55.59% vs Bloodborne

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Round 1 - 75.89% vs Valkyria Chronicles

Oh hey another strong Zelda/Mario game vs not strong FF game wonder how this is going to go.

Probably in the mid-60s like usual.

Moltar’s Bracket: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

Moltar’s Prediction: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 67%



Transience’s Analysis

FF12 suuucks. Bloodborne scared it for a while and Portal dropped a 60/40 on it in GOTD. Fans seemingly vote blindly for FF4-10 but 12 is not in that class. It's just not that strong.

Majora can probably go to town on it. Zelda will suck up the apathy franchise votes that it gets. FF12 will have to rely on its actual fanbase for votes and there just aren't a lot of those. Majora can probably double this game.

transience's prediction: Majora's Mask with 67.99%



Leonhart’s Analysis

Final Fantasy XII is probably the weakest FF game in the bracket and by a decent margin, but I’m sure people will still overreact if Majora can match Mario World, Mario 64, or LttP’s percentage on their Final Fantasy opponents. This is the game that could only manage 55% on Crisis Core and got 60/40’d by Portal. Maybe people look back on it more fondly now after the disaster (in most people’s eyes) the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy was, but still, it’s going down hard here.

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy XII

Leonhart’s Prediction: Majora’s Mask with 69.28%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Majora did about as expected last round, and I don’t actually have much faith in FFXII being all that strong, despite winning last round, so Majora should do...well...about as expected here too. There’s previous results to really compare this match too, so it’s a bit of a shot in the dark, but FFXII being slightly stronger than Chrono Cross seems like a reasonable assumption, so Majora should probably shoot for the 65% range. There sure are a lot of Nintendo games in this division.

Zelda: Majora’s Mask with 64%



Guest’s Analysis - spooky



Crew Consensus: Double dose of Zelda > FF today
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save_us.LOPEN
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Quick emergency non-Lopen Guest analysis:

I missed two straight sign-up topics so I feel like I'm due for one even though I've got an analysis tomorrow.

GotD against something that was in GotD and didn't perform well. Seems easy enough. I could take advantage of already knowing what everyone else predicted and go a little lower in case I'm a tad high on ZeldaFEAR but I'll take the high road and match my Oracle prediction exactly.

Majora's Mask with 72.24%
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This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
what the? a Dark Souls sweep?

I expected that to counterbalance my Galaxy pick
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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 76.89% 34577
Suikoden II 23.11% 10391
TOTAL VOTES 44968

Okami 42.15% 18567
Final Fantasy IX 57.85% 25480
TOTAL VOTES 44047

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 52.11% 22800
Fire Emblem: Awakening 47.89% 20950
TOTAL VOTES 43750

Banjo-Kazooie 39.39% 17172
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 60.61% 26423
TOTAL VOTES 43595

Crew Predictions: 78/84

What Happened: The Crew consensus misses a match (DKC2/FE) for the first time in a LONG time, maybe since DKC2/Xenoblade. Zelda underwhelms, FF9 looks legit and SOTN does as expected.

What Will Happen: Ocarina/SOTN showdown incoming (what a bad division)

Crew Prediction Challenge: Moltar/tran/Kleenex miss DKC2, Guest misses SOTN/BK due to apathy

Leonhart: 78
Moltar: 77
Guest: 74
transience: 73
Kleenex: 73

Crew Accuracy Challenge: Kleenex gets Ocarina, Leon gets FF9, Guest gets DKC2, Moltar gets SOTN

Leonhart: 19
Kleenex: 17
Moltar: 16
transience: 14.5
Guest: 13.5
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xyzzy
Emegency guest write-ups don't count?

You're telling me I wasted 30 seconds of my time for no reason?
oh, did I miss one? I'll add the point next time 'round
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Does Moltar want analyses early today?
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He didn't mention anything about it, but it probably wouldn't hurt.
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11/26/2015 6:38:30 PM#150
what he said
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