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Best. Game. Ever. Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3
Yeah, you can only write so much about an "obvious" match when you have to do so many matches at once. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
metal gear seems fine. just 4/5 being weak. seems a little weak for new Vegas too. witcher looking good --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
I almost picked Bioshock. I think that's a good upset pick even though it doesn't appear to be panning out here. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Grand Theft Auto V 62.35% 23213 Shenmue 37.65% 14017 TOTAL VOTES 37230 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 45.57% 17674 Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 54.43% 21114 TOTAL VOTES 38788 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 61.28% 23238 Shovel Knight 38.72% 14681 TOTAL VOTES 37919 World of Warcraft 41.94% 15826 Chrono Cross 58.06% 21910 Crew Predictions: 47/52 What Happened: Pretty expected results, though maybe not the percentages. What Will Happen: Mario RPG looking good to take the eightpack. Crew Prediction Challenge: points Guest: 48 Leonhart: 48 Moltar: 46 transience: 44 Kleenex: 43 Crew Accuracy Challenge: Kleenex gets GTA5, Leon gets GTASA, tran gets Mario RPG and Chrono Cross Leonhart: 13 Kleenex: 10.5 Moltar: 9.5 Guest: 8.5 transience: 7.5 --- xyzzy |
RE4
recovered a decent bit after last night, and witcher is looking real
good. Isaac was never going to be that strong, but I'm still impressed
here. this is a soft division, so if witcher's legit it could do some
damage --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
aw yeah I'm going to have sole possession of both challenges after today good work again Guest! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Kleenex’s Analysis These were pretty much my thoughts when the bracket first came out. This analysis could seriously be a parody of my initial reaction to that match--I initially had BoI winning because this was Witcher's first contest appearance of any sort while Isaac had at least been in a character contest and would thus be more "recognizable". And the first person to try to set me straight did so with insane Witcher fanboyism. Thankfully, someone more sensible You forgot one thing in listing reasons why Witcher 3 will be weak, however. It's a franchise that originated as something other than a video game, and those usually do poorly. The only one I can remember ever really being worth much was KotOR, and even that only extends to the game itself. (Goldeneye's okay, but I can't remember it ever beating anything of note.) --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
no crew curse on EB/BL2 plz --- xyzzy |
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 57 – (1) Metal Gear Solid vs. (16) Splatoon Moltar’s Analysis The good news is Splatoon should be one of the stronger non-Smash Wii U games. The bad news is that it’s a big squid in a small pond. Now that we are in the ocean of gaming that is this contest, there’s all sorts of bigger and badder beasts that can devour Splatoon. Metal Gear Solid is one of those beasts, and it should be able to reel in a big number here. [insert more fish analogies here] Moltar’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid Moltar’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid – 77% Transience’s Analysis Splatoon is a new IP, a Wii U exclusive and a shooter. That's like a triple negative. It *is* Nintendo and they have put a significant amount of time pushing the game, so it won't be as miserable as it sounds like it should on paper. But it's still going to get annihilated by a real game like Metal Gear Solid. I mean, Mario Maker is similar but with the Mario name/gameplay on it and it got doubled by a Fire Emblem game. Yeah. transience's prediction: Metal Gear Solid with 82.11% Leonhart’s Analysis Metal Gear Solid should be able to land a big blowout here. I think it’s a really strong game, and as well received as Splatoon was, it’s still a Wii U exclusive. We’ve seen the Wii flopping left and right this whole contest, and I expect Splatoon to continue the trend. This should be the biggest blowout by a non-Nintendo/Square game, which may not be a high bar. Let me check who has that mark right now…SOTN with 75% against T&T. Yeah, MGS1 should be able to blow past that here. Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid Leonhart’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid with 84.80% Kleenex’s Analysis I’m still not entirely sure where I stand on Metal Gear’s status this year. 4 and 5 were obviously disappointments, and which I thought 2 looked fine at the start of yesterday’s matches, but the end of things I think it ended up looking mediocre. Today should probably be the end of that speculation based on how well MGS1 does here. I don’t have much faith in Splatoon being worth a whole lot. It’s well regarded by critics, but it’s a Wii U game and it doesn’t have Mario or Zelda in the title. We already say Mario Maker bomb, and Splatoon will very likely do worse. MGS1 used to be one tough cookie, so it should probably have a good showing here, lest the DEBOOST come to full fruition. Metal Gear Solid with 70% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ (edited 11/18/2015 7:47:33 PM)delete |
Guest’s Analysis - whatisurnameplz I’ve actually played about an hour of both games, so I’ll start by giving my quick opinion of what I’ve played. Splatoon is pretty fun, but flawed. You can’t pick your weapon inside the match-maker, so you have to exit that if you want to switch weapons. There’s also no voice chat, not even among people you’re friends with, and there’s no team builder function that allows you to go into a game specifically as a gunner, roller, or sniper. However, it is extremely creative, and each weapon loadout comes with unique sub-weapons and abilities, so there’s balance. I know Nintendo is constantly adding features to it, so hopefully the game will have these features in the future. I think it’ll become a really good team-based shooter if Nintendo implements them. Meanwhile, I believe Metal Gear Solid to be one of those games that will perform well purely based off of nostalgia. It has some of the worst controls I’ve ever played in a game. I was about to get through the first room perfectly on my first try, but then I died because I pressed the analog stick the wrong way by accident. Then there’s As for the actual match, MGS is winning this easily. Splatoon is definitely weaker than Mario Kart 8, which got 19.96% on Mario 64. I’d wager MGS is a little bit weaker than Mario 64, so it should get around the same numbers here. Metal Gear Solid – 79.99% Also, Splatoon looks like it was modelled after 90s era Nickelodeon, ie back when it was more than just Spongebob re-runs 24/7. Niiiiiice. Crew Consensus: Splatoon gets splatted --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 58 – (8) Earthbound vs. (9) Borderlands 2 Moltar’s Analysis I’m torn here. I have Borderlands in my now dead bracket, but the contest trends see that old SNES RPG Earthbound and it becomes the favorite. The problem there though is that Earthbound is weak and we’ve seen it and its characters come up short in the past. I’m still super skeptical of it, but this point has been hammered on too much already. If it’s debatable, go with the old, so I’ll just hope Earthbound has boosted enough to win this one (aka cmon undertale tumblrs you know what to do). Moltar’s Bracket: Earthbound Moltar’s Prediction: Earthbound – 51% Transience’s Analysis I thought about this match pre-contest a lot. I had BL2 in my bracket for the longest time until I abandoned it for Earthbound. My thinking at the time was this: we're going to get like 30,000 votes a match. Earthbound fans are *nuts*. They will mobilize if they need to and it only takes 15,000 votes to win. This contest is set up for really strong fanbases to shine and Earthbound defines that more than anything. Also, so much of Borderlands 2 is being there in the moment with friends. Is that still going to be a thing on GameFAQs? Does anyone really trust that BL2 is well-liked? It won GOTY but it was the worst year for big games in a real long time. Fast forward three weeks and I think a lot of people have abandoned BL2. Undertale did exactly what i was talking about above and that game is basically made up of Earthbound fans. Also, the 2012 GOTY is getting exposed left and right: Xenoblade lost to DKC2, Walking Dead got doubled by friggin' Uncharted and Mass Effect 3 bombed against an unknown game even before the Undertale rally. Oh, and Earthbound is also an old game and those keep impressing. This match feels like Xenoblade/DKC2 redux. I expect most of us to abandon BL2 for EB here. I don't think it's anything close to guaranteed but who are you going to trust in a battle of small vote totals and old/new games? The ultimate cult RPG or the co-op shooter? transience's prediction: Earthbound with 53.79% Leonhart’s Analysis Trends seem to be pointing toward EarthBound winning this match. Old vs. New matches have overwhelmingly favored the old. 2012 games in particular have flopped hard, with Walking Dead, Mass Effect 3 (even before the rally kicked in), and Xenoblade all looking bad. Borderlands 2 was the GOTY that year, so it should theoretically be the strongest one of the bunch, but it still won’t be that strong. Plus, EarthBound is a Nintendo RPG, so that’s another thing in its favor. But I’m still picking Borderlands 2. I can’t bring myself to pick EarthBound, and this game has gagged it up every chance it’s gotten. Even Ness has become a big choker in Character Battles in recent years. Borderlands 2 may have won the weakest GOTY ever, but it still won it, and EarthBound has never won anything. If any match is going to buck the trend, it’ll be this one. Leonhart’s Vote: Borderlands 2 Leonhart’s Prediction: Borderlands 2 with 53.50% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Kleenex’s Analysis Once upon a time, Borderlands 2 was actually the game of the year on this site. That alone is quite a feat, as Borderlands is not in any way a “GameFAQs game”. Then again Modern Warfare 2 also won once. Those game of the year polls are weird. Anyway, much like Oblivion/Mario RPG, this was probably a debatable match pre-contest. Now, I’m not so convinced. Earthbound is on the dreaded SUPER NINTENDO so it should win this if all the previous trends hold up, and I expect them to. The series is well known enough now that it wouldn’t lose to something like Doom, and Borderlands just doesn’t strike me as the kind of game people (on this site) are going to care about 3 years after the fact. I’m feeling a good old-fashioned “blowout” for this one. Earthbound with 55% Guest’s Analysis - Surskit Crew Consensus: Earthbound is the favorite here --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
thank you Leon --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Huh, didn't expect the MGS percentages to be that low.\ Also, if the guest doesn't send in a prediction, can someone else write it up? I'm totally ok with doing two write-ups. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. (edited 11/18/2015 8:15:19 PM)report |
hey not a crew curse let's go poop jokes --- xyzzy |
Come on, Borderlands 2! I was torn on this match and went for BL2 mostly for bias, but without bias I was probably leaning towards Earthbound even pre-contest. It could still do it, but Earthbound probably has it. --- NEW YORK METS - 2015 National League Champions |
Wait Moltar's bracket is dead? #1 in the Oracle is dead??? --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
Oblivion'd and cookie'd --- xyzzy |
Master Moltar posted... This should be the biggest blowout by a non-Nintendo/Square game, which may not be a high bar. Let me check who has that mark right now…SOTN with 75% against T&T. Persona 4 has this, actually. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
I think Splatoon could probably manage 25-30% here. --- satoru iwata |
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 59 – (5) Shadow of the Colossus vs. (12) Team Fortress 2 Moltar’s Analysis Really nothing to see here except to see how SotC does so we can plug numbers in for its upcoming match with MGS. Yeah one sentence deal with it. Moltar’s Bracket: Shadow of the Colossus Moltar’s Prediction: Shadow of the Colossus – 61% Transience’s Analysis Team Fortress 2 is a little unpredictable. There was a time where it was a really respected FPS, but I think a lot of that has gone away as GF has shrunk and it's fallen into f2p hat madness. That game is long in the tooth at this point and the cool stuff, like Meet the Spy, has just run its course. Shadow of the Colossus is a little overhyped, I think, because of its crazy run last year. But it's still quite a ways ahead of a game that went 50/50 with Fable and has reasons to drop after five years. transience's prediction: Shadow of the Colossus with 64.44% Leonhart’s Analysis Both games were involved in memorable matches in GOTD. Perhaps the most memorable part of the contest was SOTC’s run through the Metal Gear Solids, but Team Fortress 2 was involved in the closest wire-to-wire match in contest history against Fable (MGS2/SOTC is second). At the same time, that should tell you everything you need to know about this match. SOTC went wire-to-wire with MGS, and Team Fortress 2 went wire-to-wire with Fable. Shadow of the Colossus might be a bit overvalued based on its GOTD run, but it’s got more than enough strength to get past Team Fortress 2. Leonhart’s Vote: Shadow of the Colossus Leonhart’s Prediction: Shadow of the Colossus with 60.25% Kleenex’s Analysis Shadow of the Colossus was the contest darling back in Game of the Decade. Nearly toppling 3 Metal Gear games in a row by the narrowest of margins, it was one of the most memorable parts of the whole thing. I love that it’s stuck in a division with a bunch of Metal Gear games again, but it has some work to do before it gets a shot to take them down again. It has an easy warmup match this round. Team Fortress 2 is a proven weak game on this site, so it shouldn’t offer up much resistance. Next round will probably be a tough test before we get to the main event. Shadow of the Colossus with 61% Guest’s Analysis - LinkMarioSamus Honestly most of the reason I take these analyses is because I just want to do writeups pertaining to my favorite games! Anyways, freaking Shadow of the Colossus, whose 10th anniversary was last month, is presumably given a blowout opportunity against Team Fortress 2. There are only two possibilities for it losing: either SOTC just falls off the face of the earth (not bloody likely, though I'm sure some on this board would relish it), or Team Fortress catches a big rally. We've never seen a Valve rally in any of our contests, and at the very least I'm not ready to bank on an SOTC drop. So SOTC not only undoubtedly has this, but it will probably score... ...so I think back to the GOTD x-stats, and those stats have Team Fortress 2 just above Demon's Souls which got 37% on Half-Life 2. I'll just gauge TF2 to be a bit stronger than Demon's Souls and SOTC to be a smidge weaker than HL2...but I've also heard that TF2 isn't as big a deal now as it was five years ago, which is where I go for a high number on one of my favorite games! Well okay, high but not horribly unreasonably so anyway, so here goes: Shadow of the Colossus with 64% Crew Consensus: A colossal victory --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Unofficial Lopen Guest Analysis, mass production style style: Splatoon. Well I have no idea what this game is outside of the name. If history serves, that means it's going to get a massive rally and win. I would find that kinda funny so I'm not going to fall on my sword for this one. Lopen's guest prediction: Metal Gear Solid with 82.82% Unofficial Lopen Guest Analysis, mass production style: You know bias had me wanting to pick Borderlands 2 here, but I STAYED STRONG TO MY CONVICTIONS despite me thinking the match would be close, favoring the old SNES game over the newer title in the close match, cause that old school is cool on this site with 30k votes. And well, seeing how the contest has gone so far, not doubting that at all right now. Lopen's unofficially guest prediction: Earthbound with 54.39% Unofficial Lopen Guest Analysis, mass production style: Shadow of the Colossus sucks. Lopen's unofficially guest prediction: SotC with 57.26% Unofficial Lopen Guest Analysis, mass production style: Yo I mean... apparently Red Dead Redemption is a thing on this site. I had no idea but what is this seed? Why did it do so well on the top 100 list? I guess people are just starved for that wild west, ya know? That being said I'm still not totally sold on it... against anything of note here I'd probably vote the anything, and yet... Bayonetta 2 doesn't really fill me with confidence. Like I've seen how DMC does around here, and I've seen how Bayonetta, the character, does around here... seems like an easy enough win? Or will that Wii-U Lopen's unofficially guest prediction: Red Dead Redemption with 53.39% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
sooooo where's red dead? --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Oh right, P4 got 77.7% against 999, forgot. MGS1 should still be able to beat that. I'm kinda surprised people are shooting low 70s here. Not sure if that's MGS underestimation or what. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
also you guys are welcome that I hate EarthBound enough to go against the trend and pick against it --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Well
three MGS games have underperformed so far. There's definitely good
reason to have it go lower even if 2, 4, and 5 aren't as loved as 1 and
3. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Is 57% on RE1 really an underperformance though? RE1 is pretty decent, and MGS2 was probably mid-tier anyway. I wouldn't judge MGS1 based on MGS4 and MGSV if nothing else. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... also you guys are welcome that I hate EarthBound enough to go against the trend and pick against it I already said thank you! --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
yes that was my response to your thanks that is generally how it works someone says thanks and you say you're welcome --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 60 – (4) Red Dead Redemption vs. (13) Bayonetta 2 Moltar’s Analysis Love Bayonetta, but its weak. RDR is one of the few noteworthy newish western games on the site. It had a solid showing in its GotY poll like 5 years back. Who knows if it's held up since then though. I’d be surprised if it stomps Bayonetta 2 despite it being a Wii U game, but I’d be even more surprised if it lost this match. (go bayonetta) Moltar’s Bracket: Red Dead Redemption Moltar’s Prediction: Red Dead Redemption – 64% Transience’s Analysis If there's one thing worse than being a Wii U exclusive, it's being an action game. Bayonetta is a poor man's Devil May Cry strength-wise and DMC, despite its high praise as a forerunner of the action genre, is garbage in contest matches. Bayo2 probably picks up votes from fans of the original Bayonetta but it's still a Wii U exclusive action game. Red Dead is not ubiquitous but it is well-liked - maybe the second-best game of 2010 after Mass Effect 2 - and should retain some strength. Unlike GTA, I think it fits our audience well as an interesting narrative open world experience. Can it challenge SOTC? I think it's got a good shot but matches against TF2 and Bayonetta 2 won't tell us a thing. transience's prediction: Red Dead Redemption with 72.89% Leon’s Analysis I’m not sure what to think of Red Dead Redemption. It’s done decently in POTDs, so it’s probably got some strength here. I don’t think it’ll have any problem beating Bayonetta 2 though. The main reason is that it’s a Wii U exclusive that isn’t even a Nintendo franchise. As much as people praise the Bayonetta games, that genre has never really excelled here. The DMC games were nothing special in GOTD. Bayonetta and Dante as characters do well based on coolness factor and stuff like that, but it doesn’t translate to strength for their games. I’m not sure what RDR would need to do here to make me feel like it’s got a shot at SOTC next round because we can chalk a blowout up to LOL Wii U. It probably needs to go pretty high though. Leonhart’s Vote: Red Dead Redemption Leonhart’s Prediction: Red Dead Redemption with 65.10% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Kleenex’s Analysis Red Dead is an interesting entrant. People love that game. It’s often cited as one of Rockstar’s best and you won’t find too many people who don’t hold the game is high regard. And yet, it’s a Rockstar game. We all know how disappointing GTA is around here and while we don’t have any other non-GTA R* games to compare this too, it seems like a reasonable assumption that Red Dead will fall in the same unfortunate boat. I don’t think it will lose to the likes of Bayonetta 2, but I would be surprised if the game truly impressed anyone in today’s match. Red Dead Redemption with 61% Guest’s Analysis - Ultima When I first saw this match, I figured this was an easy win for RDR, but after taking a closer look at "relevant" polls, I'm not so sure anymore. GotY polls are obviously not reliable, but they're basically all we have. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5750-best-of-2014-game-of-the-year Bayonetta 2 finished third in this poll, despite sharing a console with Smash. That's not awful. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4213-best-of-2010-best-multi-platform-game-final http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5898-now-that-fallout-4-has-been-announced-which-sequel-are-you Now, RDR did pretty well for itself in its GotY poll, getting 60-40'd by Mass Effect 2. There's also that more recent pre-E3 poll, that shows the game hasn't been completely forgotten. I think based on those polls, I give RDR the advantage, but it's hard being confident in a game released in the early 2010s (hint: this time-period has been flopping left and right in this contest). Add that this is an open-world game released by Rockstar, and you have a second recipe for a massive underperformance. Unfortunately, Bayonetta 2 is an even more recent WiiU exclusive, which is why can't quite jump the gun on the upset. Predicition: Red Dead Redemption with 54.30% Crew Consensus: Climax Time for RDR --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
I can never tell with people around here leon --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
uh-oh crew curse --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
huh, I didn't expect to be the oddball here --- xyzzy |
whatisurnameplz posted... uh-oh crew curse the only debatable match is eb/bl2 though --- Welcome to the League of raytan, CBIX Guru winner! http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif |
I've got a full ONE POINT LEAD to work with on Borderlands 2 anyway, so it's worth the risk, I say. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Thank you based Leon for avoiding crew curse --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
we'll see how much you're thanking me in 10 minutes I went against the Crew on DKC2/Xenoblade too --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
DAMMIT I FORGOT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE MATCH Borderlands 2 vs. Earthbound I LOVE EARTHBOUND and borderlands is new so oldfaqs will NEVER VOTE FOR IT and also smash boost and lucas is in sm4sh and earthbound is fucking amazing goddammit BOING Earthbound with 58% --- .-#Elements of Water#-. |
LeonhartFour posted... why is the Wii U not totally sucking today It's mysterious considering how bad Mario Maker did in its match. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
maybe Awakening is LEGIT --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
well we can say for sure that Xenoblade just plain sucks so advantage Awakening --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
can't wait for the winner of that fourpack to get annihilated by SotN which gets annihilated by OoT --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
I always forget how crazy the MGS night vote can be c'mon 80% --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 74.17% 25771 The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth 25.83% 8973 TOTAL VOTES 34744 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 56.76% 20393 Resident Evil 43.24% 15536 TOTAL VOTES 35929 Fallout: New Vegas 55.93% 19855 BioShock Infinite 44.07% 15646 TOTAL VOTES 35501 Resident Evil 4 58.87% 21841 Paper Mario 41.13% 15262 TOTAL VOTES 37103 Crew Predictions: 51/56 What Happened: Notable particularly notable. What Will Happen: Witcher 3/MGS2 could be a match -- or it could just be Isaac being weak as hell. Crew Prediction Challenge: points except for Chris's Bioshock pick Leonhart: 52 Guest: 51 Moltar: 50 transience: 47 Kleenex: 46 Crew Accuracy Challenge: Leon gets RE4 and Witcher, Moltar gets Fallout and Metal Gear Leonhart: 15 Moltar: 11.5 Kleenex: 10.5 Guest: 8.5 transience: 7.5 --- xyzzy |
