Best. Game. Ever. Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3

11/16/2015 6:45:36 PM#1
Hey everyone! Welcome to the Best. Game. Ever. Contest Analysis Crew topic!



EPISODE 2: Out with the New, In with the Old

Starring - Punished "Master" Moltar

Benedict Transience

Revolver Leonhart

Dr. Kleenex

Guest Starring - Guest Face

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Featured Writer - Lopen Gear



Current Guest List - Send write-ups to mastermoltar@gmail.com

Grand Theft Auto V vs Shenmue - ctes
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion vs Super Mario RPG - AxemRedRanger
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas vs Shovel Knight - paulg
World of Warcraft vs Chrono Cross - pjbasis
The Witcher 3 vs Binding of Isaac Rebirth - Magmortar
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty vs Resident Evil - Lopen
Fallout: New Vegas vs BioShock Infinite - Sir Chris
Resident Evil 4 vs Paper Mario - MechanicalWall

Metal Gear Solid vs Splatoon - whatisurnameplz
Earthbound vs Borderlands 2 - Surskit
Shadow of the Colossus vs Team Fortress 2 - LMS
Red Dead Redemption vs Bayonetta 2 - Ultimaphazon
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater vs Mother 3 - SSBM_Guy
Bioshock vs Silent Hill 2 - Bane
Starcraft vs Destiny - Black_Turtle
Mass Effect 2 vs Virtue's Last Reward - tkizzle
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Man I thought you would forgot to put this up! Nice!
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shouldn't Moltar be Miller since he's technically a "Master" too

I approve of being Leonshaska though
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11/16/2015 6:54:34 PM#4
no i want to be snake so i'm snake
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11/16/2015 6:55:05 PM#5
Division 7: Round 1 - Match 49 Ė (1) Grand Theft Auto V vs. (16) Shenmue

Moltarís Analysis

Man, we could have been able to talk about a possible crazy upset here since the GTA series has looked worse over time. Unfortunately, Vice City had to go and ruin that by not giving a terrible performance.

Iíve heard talk of GTAV being good enough to remove some of the ill-will towards the series, which reversed the decline. I donít know if thatís true or not, but it does seem like GTAV will have some strength at least.

Shenmue fans are nuts, but itíll take a pretty big rally to overcome the gap between what is likely a midcarder and fodder like Shenmue.

Moltarís Bracket: Grand Theft Auto V

Moltarís Prediction: Grand Theft Auto V Ė 71%



Transienceís Analysis

GTA Vice City basically held FF8 under 60% before we got Undertaled. That's pretty big! GTA hasn't really impressed in a big way in a long time. Was it FF8 sucking or GTA being legit? Final Fantasy has been pretty good this year overall so I lean towards GTA. Unfortunately, GTA's two matches today might not tell us a lot - it's facing two pretty weak games. TP quadrupled Shemue. I feel like Shenmue might have a little more value today just because of Shenmue 3 and general awareness increasing, but overall, GTA5 is the bigger name by a whole lot.

But GTA5 is a 2013 game. I think Vice City did well because it's a decade old and had some nostalgia attached. GTA5 may go for 70% here but I don't trust it like I would VC or SA.

transience's prediction: GTA5 with 69.17%



Leonís Analysis

Time to see what GTAV is made of. This game made waves everywhere and sold something like 50 million copies (and thatís not an exaggeration), but did it make waves here? Grand Theft Auto used to be fairly strong here 10 years ago, but the games and characters have repeatedly flopped in the last several years. Has Grand Theft Auto V managed to swing public opinion on the series back in a positive direction? I guess I should kinda hope so, since itíll make FFVIII look better!

I donít know what to think of Shenmue here. I would have projected this game to be bad fodder since itís been irrelevant for years and it was a Dreamcast exclusive, but then there was that Shenmue 3 kickstarter. I still donít think it has a chance to win here, but it might do respectably now. You can safely pick new against old here and not worry for once!

Leonhartís Vote: Shenmue

Leonhartís Prediction: Grand Theft Auto V with 68.50%
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11/16/2015 6:55:34 PM#6
Kleenexís Analysis

This was probably the round 1 day I was most excited about pre-contest. Thereís a lot of fun stuff going on in all four matches and it starts with this question - how on earth did GTA5 get a 1 seed? It was mostly well received in circles that enjoy GTA games, but GameFAQs is not that place. This has further been complicated by previous results so far. Every single Final Fantasy game has looked great so far except one - FF8. Why was FF8 immune to this supposed FF resurgence? Was Vice City really that strong? Are we due for a completely different GTA this year?

I donít think thatís really the case. Thereís a decent chance Vice City is the strongest GTA game on the site, but weíre getting a double dose of GTA today to find out whatís up. Shenmue definitely has a hardcore fanbase and itís probably helped out by the recent(ish) Shenmue 3 announcement. That still doesnít mean itís going to be strong - this is a game that only got 20% on Twilight Princess - but GTA5 probably shouldnít struggle too much. Hopefully this is a decent indication of whatís to come, because Ďclassicí GTA has a totally losable match next round.

Grand Theft Auto V with 66%



Guestís Analysis - ctes

When it's not even a debatle match in the slightest and there's a GTA title in it, you know the opponent is gonna be weak. Sure, we haven't actually ever seen Shenmue before, but there's a reason for that. It's probably just because of its mention at E3 that this first game is even in, and just barely too. Seriously though, I wonder how supported it was. Allen said that the original Super Mario Bros was in top 100 nominations, but that reviewes and stuff pushed it to the 130's. Why he allowed games like Shenmue to barely get in above it, I will never understand. I mean, it would've won this match. It's besides the point though. There's also something very wrong when GTAV gets a 1 seed above FFVII, FFX, Melee, RBY, SMW etc, but it's the reviews again.

For the actual match, GTAV will win easily. It's not like the games are bad in these contests, they're just not as strong as one might expect based off of seedings and general success. GTAV is probably among the better GTA games too, though if it fails to double Shenmue, it's really weak. The winner of Super Mario RPG/Oblivion probably beats it no matter what, but if it can't double Shenmue, it wont even be close. I'm counting on it to double it though.

Grand Theft Auto V - 69.43%
Shenmue - 30.57%



Guestís Analysis - haloiscoolisbak

One of my favourite games of all time in Shenmue up against GTA V, the best selling game of all time(I think?). Shenmue actually has a lot going for it here, it's japanese, it's from the '90s, it's the kind of action/adventure type game gamefaqs froths over and Shenmue 3 just got announced recently. And it's opponent is the much maligned GTA V, which as a series never performs as it should in these things. But regardless GTA V was huge, was responsible for a bunch of memes and it won't be losing this time around. But it won't be a blood bath. Might give a good indication to whether GTA has a chance of making it past round 2. I personally think this will be GTA's strongest entry yet in one of these things.

GTA V - 67%
Shenmue - 33%


Crew Consensus: GTA steals the victory
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is it just me or did lopen not submit any predictions at all for awhile? >_>
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Well, he said that might happen, which is why he's not officially part of the Crew this time around!
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lopen lives on through my arm
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double guest?

I wonder if gta5 will show it's a monster and just embarrass us. that feels like the logical thing to happen in this bad division but gta.
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11/16/2015 7:45:22 PM#11
Division 7: Round 1 - Match 50 Ė (8) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion vs. (9) Super Mario RPG

Moltarís Analysis

Oh man my bracket is riding on this match. Pre-contest, a lot of people didnít have any hope for GTAV, so they took the winner of this match not only to the next round, but to the division finals. I mean, it shouldnít take much to defeat GTA:SA or Chrono Cross.

Well, the contest started and the division looks much more debatable now. Between GTA looking decent and Chrono looking good, who knows what game is going to escape this eight-pack now.

Oblivion, to me, was the stronger game on paper here before the contest. Now, weíre seeing things like oldfaqs and supernintendofaqs and Iím feeling worried about that pre-contest thought. The trends of the contest certainly favor SMRPG, especially with Skyrimís disappointing showing.

Nothing Iíve seen so far shows me that Oblivion is as strong as this most likely newly powered up SMRPG, so Iím officially throwing my bracket out and backing Mario here.

i mean nintendo, square, old, and rpg it's like smrpg has a giant PICK ME sign on it

Moltarís Bracket: Oblivion

Moltarís Prediction: Super Mario RPG Ė 52%



Transienceís Analysis

Alright, here we go. This might be the biggest r1 match - either this or Xenoblade/DKC2. The winner of this is probably the odds-on favourite to take its eightpack. Let's list advantages and disadvantages:

Mario RPG:
+ Classic games have done really well, especially the SNES
+ Old Square has done especially well and Mario RPG is that special sweet spot between Nintendo and Square
- Do people still hold it dear 20 years later? Mario RPG has a certain nostalgia that probably holds up but there aren't new people being exposed to it in the same way today that a Chrono Trigger or a Super Mario World will. This isn't an all-time game.

Oblivion:
+ Beat Paper Mario 55/45
+ Check out our top 10 list. We're living in a post-Fallout 4 world and it's a different place.

1. Fallout 4 PS4
2. Fallout 4 XONE
3. Fallout 4 PC

4. GTA5 Xbox 360
5. Fallout: New Vegas Xbox 360
6. Fallout: New Vegas PC

7. GTA5 PS3
8. Fallout 3 Xbox 360
9. Destiny PS4
10. Skyrim Xbox 360
Bethesda also holds 12, 17, 18, 19 and 21. I don't usually use the top 100 list as proof of anything but all of these games are way above where they were before.

- There's a general concern that Skyrim displaced Oblivion and that is probably true. Does that mean that people like Oblivion less today? I wouldn't think so but you never know.

Both of these games have reason to be less popular than they were before, but I'll take the classic Squaretendo game over the Bethesda one, even post-Fallout 4. It's certainly not guaranteed but I'm not betting against a 90s game at all right now unless there's a really good reason. I don't think Oblivion has a silver bullet so I'll back Mario RPG.

transience's prediction: Super Mario RPG with 54.11%



Leonís Analysis

This has been one of the most heavily debated and discussed matches of the contest because of its potential long-term ramifications. Whoever wins this match is probably the favorite to go to the division finals against RE4, so this one could be worth big points and could be the difference between winning and losing the contest. The intangibles favor Super Mario RPG, in particular the dominance Ď90s games have displayed up to this point. JRPGs in general have done well. TTYD got 45% on Oblivion 5 years ago, and I think Mario RPG is the strongest of the Mario RPGs (although thatís not set in stone).
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11/16/2015 7:45:28 PM#12
Plus, Skyrim did not look as dominant as many people hoped it might against Phoenix Wright, only managing a doubling (although it was consistently pulling in 70%~ updates once the spillover from the Undertale match went away). However, on the same note, Morrowind looked better than expected against Metroid Prime, so who knows! The one thing that gives me pause about Mario RPG is GoldenEye looking pretty meh against Diablo II, and GoldenEye beat Mario RPG twice in 2009. It could be nothing, but itís still nagging at me a bit when I think about this match. Oblivion will still be a strong game, so I didnít think Mario RPG would roll past this one regardless.

Iíve had Mario RPG from the beginning, and Iím sticking with it. I think it does have a strong nostalgia factor for being either the first or one of the first RPGs for a lot of people. Plus, itís a Square game, and weíve seen Square do well so far. I mean, itís a Mario game, an RPG, and it has Nintendo AND Square attached to it! Itís got all the ingredients to succeed! What more do you want?

Leonhartís Vote: Super Mario RPG

Leonhartís Prediction: Super Mario RPG with 52.75%



Kleenexís Analysis

Before the contest started, this was a hot match. Oblivion has seemed like a reasonable force in the contests it has been in and Skyrimís popularity probably helped as well to some extent. Then Skyrim kinda bombed in Round 1. Iím not sure how much of this was due to Undertale spillover from the day before, but it wasnít the giant killer it could have been. Thereís also the small issue of every SNES game going bonkers and slaughtering opponents left and right. This was a close match before all that happened, but now things are squarely (hahaha!) in Mario RPGís corner. Mario losing this match would buck pretty much every single trend that weíve seen through the first 12 days of this contest. Which means it has a 50% chance of happening.

Super Mario RPG with 55%



Guestís Analysis - AxemRedRanger

Pre-contest this looked like a debatable old-vs.-new match, with whoever won likely making the division finals. But now we've seen most of the first round results and with how hard old games have destroyed their competition it's hard to give Oblivion much chance.

Super Mario RPG is an old "my first RPG" type game from 1996 fusing Square and Nintendo, this site's two favorite things. It could very well be the most gamefaqsy game in the bracket. It looked strong in 2009, though it was hard to be completely sure with all the potential LFF.

Oblivion's reception seems to have cooled significantly since Skyrim's release. Morrowind fans have always had issues with the game and Skyrim is near-universally considered better. I wouldn't count on a major franchise boost from having a big name sequel either; that didn't seem to help Persona 3 or Demon's Souls. Maybe a few years ago Skyrim would have been big enough to boost the game but not now:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4444-whats-your-all-time-favorite-4-game
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5467-whats-your-all-time-favorite-4-game

So yeah, Super Mario RPG is going to crush this match.

Super Mario RPG with 57.5%



Crew Consensus: Super Mario sweep
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Master Moltar posted...
i mean nintendo, square, old, and rpg it's like smrpg has a giant PICK ME UP sign on it


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yeah there was no way any of us would pick oblivion here
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iphonesience
RlP SMRPG
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hey I don't see Bloodborne winning after we all picked FFXII do you
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THink SMRPG gets an easy victory here. We'll see.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Bloodborne was never close to FFXII.
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it was still a quote unquote debatable match
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11/16/2015 8:04:04 PM#21
tag go my mario rpg

Geno for Smash announced day of match
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<Die the death>! <Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is the death>!!
Crew curse yes good
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I think you guys went too low. I'm gonna say 61%.
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oh well so much for SMRPG
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I guess it's possible Mario RPG rolls it that easily. That would make it pretty strong, too, which is fine by me!
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55% on paper mario to 39% on smrpg would be a big shift. not impossible given this contest, but wow. if it does that, get ready for people to call for skyrim's head.
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xyzzy
11/16/2015 9:00:56 PM#27
Division 7: Round 1 - Match 51 Ė (5) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas vs. (12) Shovel Knight

Moltarís Analysis

Shovel Knight seems to be the most likely game to pull an Undertale-esque rally, but I donít think that will happen. Undertale fans are just on another level of devotion, and I donít foresee Shovel Knight getting a sustained rally.

San Andreas should be helped here with GTAV also in a poll on the same day. Itís probably not going to stomp, but SA shouldnít choke hard enough to drop this one.

Moltarís Bracket: San Andreas

Moltarís Prediction: San Andreas Ė 66%



Transienceís Analysis

Shovel Knight is moderately popular but it's still in the context of being a good Mega Man clone. Basically, this isn't Undertale. This site goes nuts for RPGs more than anything else. Mega Man 2? It probably still wouldn't beat San Andreas.

Throw in that Vice City looked good and it bodes well for a nice performance from San Andreas.

transience's prediction: San Andreas with 64.01%



Leonís Analysis

Iíve seen a few people talking about the idea of Shovel Knight winning this match, but unless thereís a huge Tumblr following for this game Iím unaware of, I donít see it! San Andreas may have lost to Golden Sun, but it still thrashed Dead Space in round one. RacistFAQs may cost San Andreas at some point, but it wonít be this round!

Leonhartís Vote: Shovel Knight

Leonhartís Prediction: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas with 63.60%



Kleenexís Analysis

Probably the least interesting of the four matches today. GTA could lay a big fat egg today, but it would be pretty tough to lose to Shovel Knight here. I think Shovel Knight is probably going to be awfully weak, so San Andreas could kill it today and I still wouldnít feel great about its chances next round. If Shovel Knight puts up a pretty good performance here I think the GTA boost dream is super dead (not that it ever had a lot of ground to stand on in the first place).

GTA: San Andreas with 71%



Guestís Analysis - paulg

GTA: San Andreas has had a rocky contest career. In 2009, it fell in last place in the closest four-way match between Oblivion/ToS/God Of War when many expected it to win the match or at least advance. In 2010, It would take down Dead Space before losing to Golden Sun in a match, again, many picked San Andreas to win. In 2005, its lead character CJ ended up losing in Round 1 to Ness when a lot of people figured the San Andreas rep would win the match.

I'm sounding repetitive here, but in every contest San Andreas has been in, it always ends up having that match where it should/could have won but ultimately loses, and I get the feeling that may happen again this year, either here or against Chrono Cross/World of Warcraft..

We don't really have a read on Shovel Knight prior to this match, but given its universal praise and status of being one of THE Indy titles out there, I think it does have a reasonable chance of taking this match, especially if the match stays close late into the day for rallies to push it in its favour.

I'm split between who will win, but if San Andreas is able to run away with the poll early on, it should have this barring a repeat of ME3/Undertale. Going against my bracket here and taking San Andreas.

Winner - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas with 58.84%
My Vote - Shovel Knight



Crew Consensus: Shovel Knight status - Wasted
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Crew Curse part two

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yeah chrono cross is the big one. I have no idea where a shovel knight rally would come from. this isn't a narrative heavy game, this is a literal mega man clone.
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Oh man, you guys are underestimating Shovel Knight! I don't know that it'll win like I took in my bracket, but surely it can manage 40%, right? I think SK has some reach and appeal
that could give it enough of an edge. VC did too good for me to think it'll win, but under 40% would be depressing!
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satoru iwata
Anyone who has actually played Shenmue will vote for it - it's that good a game
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I think a SK rally could happen if Yacht Club posts about it on Twitter which is very unlikely. That's how they got a Shovel Knight for Smash rally going iirc
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Shovel Knight can win because of one factor, and one factor only:

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11/16/2015 10:10:50 PM#34
Division 7: Round 1 - Match 52 Ė (4) World of Warcraft vs. (13) Chrono Cross

Moltarís Analysis

Man WoW sucks, there was some pre-contest rallyfear and hype about it, but then Chrono Trigger shut that nonsense up on day 1.

Chrono Cross should be fine here. WoW has really only looked good in fourways, and it seems to be one of those games that has a very hard time getting 50% of the voters to support it (unless you're Animal Crossing). Follow that up with old games and Chrono looking good, and a Chrono Cross victory seems set in stone.

Moltarís Bracket: Chrono Cross

Moltarís Prediction: Chrono Cross Ė 65%



Transienceís Analysis

This is a weird one. Does anyone still like World of Warcraft? Maybe a better question: is there a certain level of nostalgia now for WOW? I could totally see that being the case. The problem, of course, is that you need to have played it, and there's a sizable portion of the audience that will just never touch WOW because it's a pay-to-play PC exclusive. I don't think the game needs to be relevant today so much as it needs to draw on people's memories. It'll do that with the old faithful for sure but it needs more.

Meanwhile, does anyone still like Chrono Cross? People have doubted it for years and years. I think the hate is overblown, much like it is with FF8. It's the only other Chrono game and hit during the site's biggest RPG period. It's probably big enough to put away Warcraft, but if it has a large enough level of ambivalence or voters are taking the more important game into account, WOW could sneak away with this one. Although, you have to think: will a neutral voter side with a Chrono game or a PC MMO? Seems clear to me.

transience's prediction: Chrono Cross with 57.84%



Leonís Analysis

Both of these games suffer from bad reputations on GameFAQs, although Chrono Crossís may be a bit overblown. It broke 60% easily against Dragon Quest VIII, which beat Persona 3 on the first day of the contest, and it almost avoided the doubling against eventual GOTD champ Majoraís Mask. World of Warcraft, on the other hand, only got 58% on Animal Crossing and got 60/40íd by Paper Mario. WoW did fine in 4-ways, but that format favors a game like WoW, because you donít need a high percentage to do well and you canít get directly anti-voted.

Plus, I donít trust World of Warcraft to actually win a debatable match. Itís gonna have to prove it to me before I believe in it. Chrono Cross is in that nostalgia sweet spot, and that should be enough to get it through this fourpack (Round two spoilers).

Leonhartís Vote: Chrono Cross

Leonhartís Prediction: Chrono Cross with 55.35%
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11/16/2015 10:10:54 PM#35
Kleenexís Analysis

This was the match I was most excited about pre-contest, if only because itís finally time for Chrono Cross to show that itís legit. It didnít get a fair shake back in 2009, and in Game of the Decade it showed glimmers of something great. World of Warcraft is a game thatís merely treading water. Five years ago the best it could muster was 40% on Paper Mario. This was at the absolute apex of its popularity, the tail end of Wrath of the Lich King. This was 12 million concurrent subscriber WoW. Five years later, the landscape has changed a lot. Itís a lot less relevant, has half as many people playing, and is almost assuredly going to be weaker than it already was. Chrono Cross, on the other hand, should fit right in with every other SNES/PS1 era Square RPG that has seemed to boost to 2004 levels. I expect (and hope) Chrono Cross puts up some big numbers today to finally prove itís not the blue-headed stepchild it has been made out to be for the past 10 years. With a good showing here, a trip to the division finals isnít completely out of the question, given the relative strength of this 8-pack.

Chrono Cross with 67%



Guestís Analysis - pjbasis

It pleases me to no end that CC as a 13 seed actually got a better draw than GotD, where the overall field was even weaker and CC seeded higher.

I don't expect much from WoW, I remember it getting blown away by Paper Mario and CC the GameFAQs of today probably loves PS1 JRPGs more than ever and MMOs even less.

Step 1: Dispatch WoW
Step 2: Destroy San Andreas
Step 3: rSFF SMRPG
Step 4: Take advantage of the decline of "mature shooters" like RE4
Step 5: Expose MGS falling off a cliff
Step 6: FINAL BATTLE, defeat Ocarina of Time and win the contest!

Somewhere in there Serge is announced for SSB4.

So uh Chrono Cross wins with 56.24% or something



Crew Consensus: It's Chrono time
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Crew Curse sweep confirmed
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the flowcharts are strong with these predictions
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Communists
Come on, WoW, you can do it for my bracket (you can't do it).
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did pj forget there are 7 rounds or
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he forgot CC and OoT are on the same side of the bracket at least
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some of these CC numbers are wild. WOW to lose to DQ8 easy
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xyzzy
I can't believe I almost got sniped for the highest percentage
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LeonhartFour posted...
he forgot CC and OoT are on the same side of the bracket at least


nah, it's like how Kentucky was Wisconsin's FINAL BATTLE before they lost in the final
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I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris
Yeah, for some reason I feel like SMRPG will do really well here and go higher than those predictions.

i got to get something right eventually
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
It still seems weird to me that Chrono Cross is the favourite here. I tossed this match back and forth in my head a lot, and I couldn't get over how absolutely terrible and disappointing CC was. I still can't see anyone supporting it over one of the biggest and most influential games ever.

Then again, my record this contest speaks for itself, and I appear to be getting more and more out of touch with this site's tastes. Hell, Shovel Knight by all rights should curb stomp GTA.
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lol xstats
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
one of the biggest and most influential games ever.


Not here.
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I'll say this: I'm more worried about World of Warcraft than friggin' Shovel Knight or even Oblivion, I think.
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transience posted...
I'll say this: I'm more worried about World of Warcraft than friggin' Shovel Knight or even Oblivion, I think.

I actually agree with this. I think it's the most likely of the three to happen.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Oblivion's the one that worries me the most.

I've felt pretty good about CC from the start.
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