_Dog posted...
BTW, the games sold well because people liked them; and that's not no reason.


I know, but I like sounding dramatic.

I haven't played Minecraft tbh, but I like the idea of a game with such simple graphics beating down every AAA game in existance. It's cathartic.
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Master Moltar posted...
Leonhart’s Vote: Planescape: Torment


Is this a Smash anti-vote
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No, it's a Planescape pity vote since I have actually played it, although I never beat it!

I don't anti-vote Smash. I like Smash a lot actually!
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Also, Galaxy is one of those things that feels like it should be more popular than it actually is. Maybe Galaxy 2 will surprise me.
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Smash Wii U is the best one!
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Haven't played Smash Wii U yet. Played Smash 3DS and didn't like it.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Also, Galaxy is one of those things that feels like it should be more popular than it actually is. Maybe Galaxy 2 will surprise me.


Yeah, I always felt this was. Galaxy was the real game of the generation last gen, nothing else even sniffed it. I adored that game, as did reviewers and basically everyone who played it! And yet, GameFAQs! I do think Mario games in general are a slow burn deal, where they'll get more popular as they age rather than when they're freshest. Guess this is a good chance to find out. If Galaxy 2 struggles with ME1, whoops.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Haven't played Smash Wii U yet. Played Smash 3DS and didn't like it.


As someone who is considering buying it for his little brother what made it unlikable?

The only reason I may not buy it for him is the fact that it really is single player unless someone else has a 3ds.
LeonhartFour posted...
Haven't played Smash Wii U yet. Played Smash 3DS and didn't like it.


Same. Well, it's similar, but 3DS controls and that screen are no good for Smash.
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I don't really feel like Smash was made for a handheld, or at the very least not the 3DS. The controls are just bad for it.
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DMoCTTA posted...

The only reason I may not buy it for him is the fact that it really is single player unless someone else has a 3ds.


It has online. Works pretty well, too.
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Yeah, the online isn't bad, not like it is for Brawl.
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ZFS posted...
DMoCTTA posted...

The only reason I may not buy it for him is the fact that it really is single player unless someone else has a 3ds.


It has online. Works pretty well, too.


Yeah but more in the context that he can't play with his sibilings :P Brawl was fun as four of us could play at the same time.
Ah, yeah, that is true! Smash is best with real people around you, for sure!
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Smash 3ds is a mess

online was brutal but I was playing with theo and theo is known to destroy connections
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I had a great time with the 3DS version when in was the only version out.

100%'d it and then the Wii U version came out and never touched it since (though I did make sure to download all the DLC)
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LongLiveraytan
11/7/2015 10:09:44 PM#417
Division 2: Round 1 - Match 16 – (2) Final Fantasy VII vs. (15) Journey

Moltar’s Analysis

alright ff7 blowoutfaqs is back in full force if you can't do this then good luck later when you get real competition

Moltar’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VII

Moltar’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII - 81%



Transience’s Analysis

I love this match picture. It looks like a battle of blocks.

Journey's cool but it's got like 5 or 6 things working against it. And that's not counting the fact that it's facing FF7. It probably holds up better than R&C just because Final Fantasy VII has won every contest for the last 12 years and people are sick of it winning every goddamn year.

transience's prediction: FF7 with 79%



Leon’s Analysis

I don’t really know what to project for FFVII here. Journey is a well regarded game by those who’ve played it, but I don’t think it’s that widely played. I don’t know what a realistic expectation for FFVII is. I wonder at what percentage people start talking about it getting upset before the end of the division. I don’t know how high FFVII can actually go these days. In the “old days,” I feel like it gets 80%+ easy here, but now? I have no idea. I’ll show a little bit of faith in it here.

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy VII

Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII with 81.15%
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11/7/2015 10:09:49 PM#418
Kleenex’s Analysis

Did someone say REMAKE? No? Oh, you mean everyone totally forgot that thing was even happening, even after 10 years of buildup about it? Weird.

Final Fantasy VII is one of the two hardest and most important games in the bracket to peg if you want to do well this contest. No longer the powerhouse it once was, FFVII has a really rough contest last time around, and it’s honestly hard to feel great about its chances. I’m not sure that Chrono Trigger’s apparent resurgence is going to translate over to FFVII, especially because, as we all know, Final Fantasy Always Wins. And boy do people hate that.

I was very low on FFVII coming into this contest, and it’s going to have to work overtime to convince me otherwise. For whatever reason, this thing has become a hate magnet and people love to rally around it. Journey is obviously not the game to take it down, but FFVII really needs to come out and make a statement if it doesn’t want to get embarrassed by its smaller-in-number compatriot - or worse. Journey didn’t exist last time we had a game contest, so there’s nothing to compare it to. It’s probably not complete turbofodder, but I don’t know exactly where to put it so it’s still going to be tough to get a real read on FFVII after this match. That being said, anything lower than a doubling is probably a disaster, so that’s where I’m putting my imaginary goalpost at.

Final Fantasy VII with 73%



Guest’s Analysis - Applekidjosh

Aw yeah, the best game ever gets to show its stuff in round 1 against some no-namer. Journey was one of those games that people who played it were like "DUDE YOU GOTTA PLAY THIS" but they couldn't really explain WHY, so it was hard to convince people to leave their comfort zone. "It's incredibly atmospheric and melancholy!!" just doesn't grab the average person, right? But I'm not surprised it has its own hardcore sect of fans.

FF7 is the historical anti-vote target of the year. That's always seemed comical to me and makes me shake my head at GameFAQs as a site, because generally you want to anti-vote the most popular thing so that you get alternative winners, right? But with a few exceptions this site has been perfectly content having Link/OoT win every single contest. They anti-vote FF7 because of the PERCEPTION of it being super popular, even when the stats don't back it up. It's pretty dumb! I don't care if you vote against FF7, but if you vote for "the other guy" to ANTI-vote FF7, just please promise me you won't vote in the next US Presidential Election? (if you live in the US)

Anyway this is all about how hard FF7 can smash and my prayer is we've gone mostly past the dumb anti-vote thing so I'm hoping for a real beatdown.


FF7 with 87.33%



Crew Consensus: FF7 goes on a journey to round 2.
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11/7/2015 10:11:03 PM#419
claiming the upper bound, in before 90%
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wow we went low

FF7 should hit 85% here
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11/7/2015 10:20:29 PM#421
tran "ps1 game nostalgia will be at its height this contest" sience with the 79
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ff7 the exception to every rule
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11/7/2015 10:24:24 PM#423
transience posted...
ff7 the exception to every rule


like how it's actually a good game as opposed to xenogears !!
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I'm having a hard time deciding what percentage FFVII can put up here because it has to deal with the anti-vote factor. There is probably a small subset of people that will always vote against it, even if it faces a game they've never heard of. I guess FFVII should at least outdo what FFVI is putting up today. I'd probably take AC2 over Journey, so that's probably a reason to believe that FFVII should score above 80%.
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sorry josh can't hear you over the heavens shaking
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good job ff7, you're not embarrassing!
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accuracy is for chumps
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pretty sure you got two accuracy points for yesterday

chump
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11/8/2015 12:03:50 AM#430
LeonhartFour posted...
FFVII point is mine


Just wait for the, uh, kiddies to wake up?
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FFVII is probably perceived as "cool to anti-vote" because it gets so much hype backlash.

I love what I've played of the game and think it deserves its popularity but I see where said backlash is coming from and even then it's not like top 5 for me or anything.
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also darn you Guest for potentially hogging the upset glory
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LeonhartFour posted...
also darn you Guest for potentially hogging the upset glory


And i was looking forward to embarrassing the whole crew!
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akj might get the ffvii point after all...!
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Final Fantasy VI 77.03% 27268
Assassin's Creed II 22.97% 8132
TOTAL VOTES 35400

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 51.87% 18093
Tales of Symphonia 48.13% 16786
TOTAL VOTES 34879

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 53.65% 18373
Xenogears 46.35% 15872
TOTAL VOTES 34245

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 72.6% 25721
Pokemon X/Y 27.4% 9705
TOTAL VOTES 35426

Crew Predictions: 11/12

What Happened: FF6 and Wind Waker go big on weaker opponents; Paper Mario edges out Symphonia in the most boring close match ever; Xenogears keeps it close but still takes the L from KOTOR.

What Will Happen: FF6 and Wind Waker are setting up for a great r3 matchup

Crew Prediction Challenge: Leon misses Symphonia, tran misses Xenogears

Moltar: 11
Guest: 11
transience: 10
Leonhart: 10
Kleenex: 10

Crew Accuracy Challenge: Guest goes highest on FF6, Kleenex and Moltar split Paper Mario, Kleenex goes lowest on KOTOR and highest on Zelda.

Leonhart: 3
Kleenex: 2.5
Guest: 2.5
transience: 1.5
Moltar: 1.5
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accuracy is for winners
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_Dog posted...
ZFS posted...
Rallies are pretty overrated. To get a high concentrated rally, one that's effective, requires a really close match, an extremely hardcore and devoted fanbase, and an opponent that people aren't likely to choose instead. The Draven/LoL thing was something totally unique.


And I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit did something like that again. They can easily do something like this to another game--doesn't have to be LoL. The bad votals makes it more vulnerable to this type of thing too.

And concerning Pokemon, as one who was a complete Pokemaniac as a boy, I can say that the series has numerous flaws, and the first game in particular doesn't hold up as well as other games from that time and before. I'd vote Half-Life over that in a jiffy.


That's basically what I was saying before a combination of alcohol and ADHD led me off on a tangent. RBY gets a ton of nostalgia, possibly despite its flaws or possibly because of them, but when it gets right down to it the games were a total mess.
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RBY is only bad compared to newer pokemon games, though. Most of the glitches are hard to notice unless you are a competitive player, and both the single player and multiplayer are really fun if you're playing for the first time.

Of course newer games made everything about it obsolete, but then pokemon players became teenagers and started hating the series, so most people only played RBY.
transience posted...
we've debated Tetris/Halo for a decade now! and Tetris doesn't count because it's a GB packin.


Yeah, that sounds about right. Tetris should be the games contests' fodder line, because it's something that just about everyone should be familiar with, no one should really hate, and very few people would actually consider a great game. Therefore, it should be able to beat anything obscure or prone to anti-voting, but be hard-pressed to beat anything with a legitimate fanbase.

Not sure if that's actually the case, not to mention x-stat values are highly unreliable because matches aren't actually transitive. (4-ways even less so; they're not even internally transitive.)
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
RBY is only bad compared to newer pokemon games, though. Most of the glitches are hard to notice unless you are a competitive player, and both the single player and multiplayer are really fun if you're playing for the first time.

Of course newer games made everything about it obsolete, but then pokemon players became teenagers and started hating the series, so most people only played RBY.


...No, I'm pretty sure most of the glitches center around things that occur in 1-player. Although I suppose your opponent having glitched Pokémon would stand out.

Though you are right that some of the issues are more noticeable in multiplayer--those just aren't the ones that are glitch-based. Psychic-types pretty much destroyed everything--they were outright immune to one of their alleged weaknesses (not that it mattered because fixed-damage moves ignored immunities in Gen I so the only move that failed to be super-effective was horribly weak anyway), the other weakness had only a few moves and most of them were pretty bad, plus the good ones were mostly locked to bad Pokémon with Psychic weaknesses...which brings us to the other point: over a quarter of all Gen I Pokémon were weak to Psychic, in large part because Psychic was super-effective against the most common type in the game.

No, really. Count them up: Poison narrowly leads Water for most common Gen I type, 33-32. Which, yes, means that six generations in, more than half of all existing Poison-types have been around since Gen I.
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11/8/2015 3:58:34 PM#443
Division 3: Round 1 - Match 17 – (1) Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. (16) Age of Empires II

Moltar’s Analysis

is it next round yet

The only thing to see here is if SMB3 can get the blowout of the contest.

Moltar’s Bracket: Super Mario Bros. 3

Moltar’s Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 - 89%



Transience’s Analysis

Okay, here we go. Blowout of the contest. I haven't seen what Smash 4 did to Planescape but this has to be worse, right? Even if Mario 3 gets like 97% it still won't matter in the grand scheme of things.

transience's prediction: Mario 3 with 91.01%



Leon’s Analysis

We’ve been seeing a lot of blowouts by elite games thus far in the contest, even bigger than I would’ve anticipated, and on some well known games, to boot. That leads us to this match. I had a hunch this could be the blowout of the contest when I first saw it in the bracket. As old as it is, Mario 3 is still a beloved classic. Seriously, who hates this game? Then there’s the fact that the opponent is a PC RTS game, and while I don’t doubt the game has its fans, this is definitely not the site where this type of game will have any strength whatsoever. If someone is going to break 90% in this contest, Mario 3 has as good of a shot as any. Just save the P-Wing for next round.

Leonhart’s Vote: Super Mario Bros. 3

Leonhart’s Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 with 90.50%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Remember when I said Planescape might be one of the weakest entrants we’d ever seen? Allow me to introduce you to Age of Empires II. This is a total mismatch and probably the best chance we’ve had to see something break 90% in a contest match in a long time. Now I know what you’re thinking, “But Kleenex, Age of Empires III narrowly avoided getting last place in the best PC game poll of 2005”. Or maybe “How about that time it came in second place to Other’ back in the heady days of January 2000?” Yes, yes, I’m sure that’s what you’re all thinking. Age of Empires has three strikes against it. It’s a PC game, it’s a RTS not made by Blizzard, it’s 16 years old and it’s against Super Mario 3.

Yes, that’s four things. That’s how screwed AoE is.

Super Mario Bros. 3 with 90%



Guest’s Analysis - Magmortar

Blowout of the contest? Probab-

okay seriously who the hell even cares about this match can we just get to Mario 3/RBY already

Super Mario Bros. 3: 90.00%
Age of Empires II: 10.00%


Crew Consensus: Blowout blowout blowout
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man, I wish I had that 89% pick
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I like your 91% pick personally! Thinkin around a 93% here myself.
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This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
Guys I'm kinda amazed at your ME/SMG analysis. I know hindsight is 20/20 but...

Kleenex, you think people on GameFAQs like ME3 more than ME1...? And Moltar, ME1 isn't looked on as fondly as 2? I would disagree entirely, ME2 just has a higher playrate, and even then I don't think the gap is as wide as you think between the two. Any time I see the topic brought up between 1 & 2 it's about half and half between which is better.
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why would ME2 have a notably higher playrate in a series that's so dependent on your choices from previous games
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ME2 being stronger than ME1 is a fact. 3 is probably weaker than 1 but who knows.
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And now my spread bet is going against the entirety of the crew.

I don't like this.

Then again, does crew curse affect spreads too? Or only the winner/loser?

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