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transience posted... oh god yoshi is a dog too Yoshi has a dog. Time to get Poochie in this thing. |
No Yoshi is a horse. EponaFEAR --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
Next Round: Dog Round Amaterasu will be represented by a cat. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
It all makes sense now. Anyway I think you guys are underselling Corvo. He's going to get a good number of votes based on design alone. Dishonored isn't going to be very popular here, but it did well enough and has been making the rounds over time. People expecting Corvo to be turbofodder just reminds me of when people were expecting Jensen to lose to a Touhou. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Link was a wolf once this all just makes sense --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Uh oh wait why is that on Amazon --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
What design he literally looks like a blob of black because Bacon is bad at matching background colors --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Er I guess matching was a poor choice of words He's actually very good at matching colors in that he literally matches them instead of using you know contrast --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Looks
like I'm set to get the point for Corvo right now. I was 100% right
about him being super weak - the problem is that Sissel was nowhere near
as strong enough to capitalize on it. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
DogFAQs. This is why Red XIII could be a noble nine breaker. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest |
Argh if Corvo gets above 18.12% Lopen gets the accuracy point. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
And there goes my accuracy point. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Huh, way to go, Red. Good show. But yeah, these guys are weak. Sissel's going to end up near the bottom of the X-Stats when this is all said and done. Probably should've gone higher with Red simply because the competition was just that bad, but eh. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 72 – (7) Pit vs. (12) Urdnot Wrex vs. (21) Cecil Harvey Moltar’s Analysis Pit Spam arrows maybe that will win you this match Wrex Best squadmate Cecil Old FF character? We've got a match now. This is a very good match on paper despite none of these guys being too strong. Nintendo vs. Square vs. a third party, and all of them are probably around similar strength. Pit was the favorite going in because Smash/Nintendo and Kid Icarus: Uprising. He hasn't had a match without another Nintendo character weighing him down, so he should do alright now, especially after KI:U. Shep looked good, Garrus did well, Mordin did okay (aside from the fact he got stomped on by a horse). Wrex should do okay too, right? Maybe. He's prominent in ME1, but more optional in 2 and 3, which are the stronger games on this site. Because of that I don't think he'll be as strong as Garrus, meaning I don't think he'll compete for first place here. Cecil looked like he had an outside shot pre-contest if you believed Pit was still weak and 48% on Knuckles would be enough to beat him. However, now that we've seen old-Square look very good so far, Cecil's chances here are looking a lot better. In fact, Rydia did pretty well against Alucard and Falcon, who are a clear step above Pit. Cecil should be stronger than Rydia, so there's another hint about how this match goes. So Pit vs. Cecil is looking very close, and a day match gives Pit the advantage. However, Cecil got his 48% on Knuckles during the day, so it's not a lost cause. In the end, old Square has been looking too good this contest for me not to back in here. Moltar’s Prediction: Pit: 35% - Wrex: 28% - Cecil: 37% Lopen’s Analysis Cecil looked pretty legit last contest. Getting 48% on Knuckles is no joke. Turns out when you don't make Cecil look like a robot people will actually vote him. I'm not sure why Pit is actually being considered here Brawl can only get you so far and 48% on Knuckles isn't it. Wrex being the relatively untested quantity is a better pick for 1st than Pit is-- not that I think he has much a chance. He'll probably be a bit better than that dude who got killed by HorseFAQs. In fact, I think maybe I'm going to go with that pick. Just to be spicy. Actually let me think about this... Cecil. Wrex. Cecil. Wrex. Cecil. Wrex. I should go. Sorry. Got distracted for a bit. Let's not actually put him at first. 2nd will do. Lopen's prediction: Cecil - 39.66% Wrex - 31.03% Pit - 29.31% Leonhart’s Analysis I want to pick Wrex to win this match so badly. I really do. I just can’t see him pulling it off. He’s only a playable squadmate in the first game, and we saw how weak Shepard was when he only had ME1 behind him. Plus, BioWare and EA released their player stats for Mass Effect 3 several months ago, and it revealed that about 65% of players didn’t even have Wrex available for their ME3 files. That’s a crazy number. If you jumped straight into ME2 without playing ME1 first (as you might have if you played the series on PS3 as I did), it’s entirely possible that you have no idea who Wrex even is because you can literally play ME2 and ME3 without ever meeting him. Of course, you’ve never gotten the full Mass Effect experience without Wrex, but I digress. He just has too many things working against him for me to pick him to win, sadly. --- Moltar Status: Crew Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
So
that essentially makes it a two horse race between Cecil and Pit. While
Pit has never really looked that impressive in his previous contest
appearances, his true value has been hidden behind LFF (although going
50/50 with King Dedede isn’t good, no matter how you slice it). Now he’s
flying high off of Kid Icarus: Uprising (get it), but how much will it
help him? Hades and Palutena have done decently so far. Not great, but
better than I expected from them, so it seems like it’s had some effect.
Still, I keep going back to that Cecil/Knuckles match in 2010 where
Cecil got 48% in a day match (and conceivably could have won if it were a
night match), and I can’t see Pit matching that. It fails the eye test
every time. Plus, Old Square has been looking pretty good thus far, so I
think Cecil’s got this one. An FFIV character is finally going to win a
match. I almost feel like counting up how many wins each FF game’s
characters have just for comparison’s sake, but I won’t spoil the moment
for you weirdos who actually think Cecil is a top tier FF lead. Enjoy
your moment in the sun as you watch Pit’s wings melt. Leonhart’s Vote: Urdnot Wrex Leonhart’s Prediction: Cecil Harvey – 37.50% Pit – 34.00% Urdnot Wrex – 28.50% Kleenex’s Analysis This will probably be a close match. I have Pit in my bracket I think, but with all that Theatrhythm boost running around this contest, plus Cecil looking not all that bad last couple times around, Cecil should probably be able to take this. Which seems weird to say, but there you go. Wrex is here too and he's kind of a fan favorite sort of, but I think he's probably weaker than Garrus and Mordin. He should be, anyway, because he's not good as those two. Also anti-badassFAQs. Kleenex's Prediction Pit with 33.33% Wrex with 31.33% Cecil with 35.34% Transience’s Analysis I've seen a lot of Cecil hype for this match and I just don't get it. Yeah, the FF4 guys have improved since FF4DS came out, but Cecil doesn't have the design improvement that the others do. I think Rydia is stronger than he is. Cecil is probably decent, maybe around Pac-Man level, but not much better than that. On the other hand, I believe in Pit. I've always seen him as being Link with wings -- obviously he'll never approach Link's popularity since the gulf between Zelda and Kid Icarus is monstrous, but he's got a design that will absolutely appeal to this website and has gotten a lot of exposure lately. Palutena even did not horrible when I thought she'd bomb hard. I think Pit wins this one and wins easily. I heavily considered picking Wrex pre-contest but with all the new guys bombing, I just don't trust a plurality of the voters to side with a big blob over two beloved icons. transience's prediction: Pit with 42%, Cecil with 35%, Wrex with 23% KP's Analysis After seeing old FF do so well, I have basically 0 doubts about Cecil winning this. Pit isn't going to be that great, I think. Cecil - 41% Pit - 32% Wrex - 27% Guest’s Analysis - th3l3fty Welcome to the first (and possibly only) edition of... Great Moments in Wrestling Performed By The Participants Of Character Battle IX The first thing I want to be done, is get that piece of crap out of my match. Don't just get him out of my match, get him out of these contests. Because I proved son, without a shadow of a doubt, that you don't got what it takes anymore! You sit there and you thump your bible and you say your prayers, and it didn't get you anywhere! Talk about psalms, talk about Palutena 3:16, Cecil 3:16 says I just won this match! Cecil: 40.00% Pit: 31.16% Wrex: 28.84% Crew Consensus: Cecil is the heavy favorite |
If Dissidia can turn Kefka from being the butt of jokes to beating Zack Fair then Cecil can definitely beat Pit. --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif http://www.gamnesia.com/ |
I am offended that lefty gets credit for my A+ analysis. --- ~War~ |
why
is falcon a tier above pit anyway? as someone voting only on smash
bros i'm having trouble seeing it, and nobody plays f-zero, so... --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/angryaria <Die the death>! <Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is the death>!! |
falcon has a memes pit doesn't --- i'll do rydia -Dante |
And Falcon's series was live and not dead so he got more representation and nostalgia. Pit didn't. |
I really wish this match had been in division 1 now everyone's jumping on the Cecil bandwagon --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Not enough Pit. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Squarefear --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
To me Pit vs. Cecil is Pit vs. Knuckles. Knuckles would not lose to Pit. That simple! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
if that's the case then Cecil beats a lot of people suddenly. I don't even think he beats Rydia who can't beat Falcon! --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
KanzarisKelshen posted... And Falcon's series was live and not dead so he got more representation and nostalgia. Pit didn't. transience is the only person to ever play f-zero --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/angryaria <Die the death>! <Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is the death>!! |
What's
the problem with that, honestly? Cecil vs. Knuckles is the only match
we've ever had where he's had a fair shake, and he did very good in it.
He's the main character of one of the most popular games in the FF
series, and games like Dissidia have helped those characters gain
relevance again. After seeing what guys like Kefka, Kain, Rydia, Terra
have done, Cecil being legit is fine. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
AppIekidjosh posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...And Falcon's series was live and not dead so he got more representation and nostalgia. Pit didn't. hey --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... AppIekidjosh posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...And Falcon's series was live and not dead so he got more representation and nostalgia. Pit didn't. I always knew you were a transience alt --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/angryaria <Die the death>! <Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is the death>!! |
AppIekidjosh posted... why is falcon a tier above pit anyway? as someone voting only on smash bros i'm having trouble seeing it, and nobody plays f-zero, so... Falcon was also in Melee and the original SSB too, more exposure --- MonkClive0 [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I probably wouldn't take Pit over Ness. Being in 3 Smash games + Earthbound > being in one Smash game + Uprising. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
And none of us took Wrex --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
go my accuracy points --- i'll do rydia -Dante |
Wrex the worst choice here. C'mon Pit --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Best crew --- F*** BT |
lolpit, and lolcrewcurse --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif http://www.gamnesia.com/ |
Wow, is this even closer than the Tharja/Juliet/Tina match? --- 3DS FC: 3265-5634-7751 |
pit suuuux --- i'll do rydia -Dante |
oh man Wrex. had him in my bracket for a week or two. oh well. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Wrex was my kneejerk reaction pick on Day 1 of the bracket, then logic took over and I went with Cecil. Whoops --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Still have Wrex in my bracket because I forgot to switch to Cecil before lockdown! Still think Cecil wins this in the end, but it's nice to see Wrex didn't totally fold. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
(Also looks like I was justified in saying I wouldn't take Pit to beat Ness) --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Huh I'm the only one who thought Wrex had a better chance than Pit. Weird. Shoulda went Wrex! --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
I
thought Wrex had a better chance of surprising and coming in first than
Pit did despite putting him in last place. Didn't see any way Pit
actually won this match. Wrex just turned out to be better than I
expected. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
I
think I realized something that all of the analysis crew didn't (and I
only just realized it). Yes FF IV is a Square game, but more
importantly, it is a Nintendo game (Super Nintendo or DS). The Square
fan base is basically a Playstation and beyond fan base. The fans of
early FF games are Nintendo fans. Thus, you end up with a SFF
situation. I know many FF IV / FF VI fans continued as Square fans, but you can see from the vicious FF VI / FF VII debates that many didn't. In fact, I personally believe the majority of the current Square fan base started with VII or simply didn't enjoy the SNES games. The people who are real IV fans are almost all Nintendo fan base. I could be so far off base it hurts, but I think the results are showing this theory is pretty spot on. -MS |
mikestrauss posted... I think I realized something that all of the analysis crew didn't (and I only just realized it). Yes FF IV is a Square game, but more importantly, it is a Nintendo game (Super Nintendo or DS). The Square fan base is basically a Playstation and beyond fan base. The fans of early FF games are Nintendo fans. Thus, you end up with a SFF situation. Zack SFFed Cecil. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
I
don't think so. we've had dozens of matchups with old Square without
any real evidence there. do Square and Nintendo share a fanbase? of
course. those fanbases are basically the entire site. but not to any
level of impact. --- xyzzy |
Yeah,
I get what you're saying, and it makes sense, since that divide
actually tends to occur with people, but I don't think there's anything
to it on this site. There's probably overlap, like there is with
everything, but not out of the ordinary or enough to really hurt. Wrex sucks --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
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