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#51 | cteswhatever | Posted 8/2/2013 9:40:15 AM | message detail
Man, could've sworn I send in the analysis for Pikachu, Big Daddy, Lloyd. That apparently did not happen.
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#52 | th3l3fty | Posted 8/2/2013 10:04:20 AM | message detail
s'ok ctes I got your back
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#53 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/2/2013 10:28:55 AM | message detail
I have Booker in my bracket.Before the contest I thought that he would win easily.But it seems that people don't care for GOTY here so Gilgamesh wins.Still it will be close.Maybe.
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#54 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/2/2013 10:45:46 AM | message detail
Oof, slept in.

Kotetsu's Guest Analysis

Kaim should be guaranteed a respectable third place showing unless one of the other two turns out to be a gigantic bust, so we can throw him there.

How the other two stand against each other isn't clear. Western characters from recent games have looked awful on the whole, while obscure RPG characters have done well, and FF characters with Dissidia pedigree have been one of the few groups to be genuinely impressive so far.

But Elizabeth, who I'd expect to be slightly stronger than Booker - if not by as much as people often suggest - did win her poll easily, even if it was against Poison and Thrall. Gilgamesh made the rivals contest with Bartz and didn't manage to double Guybrush. Locke, surely stronger than both Bartz and he, got wrecked by Ness, and his Dissidia presence is relegated to the decidedly less popular sequel. Bioshock Infinite strikes me as a big enough deal that you'd need to nearer to Ness than that to be its leads.

While I can absolutely understand the move to abandon the western ship in light of their dire showings, I think I'll be going down with it. Book it, Booker.

Booker DeWitt - 42.5%; Gilgamesh - 38.5%; Kaim Argonar - 19%
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#55 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/2/2013 11:01:09 AM | message detail
kaim is such a turd
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#56 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/2/2013 11:04:13 AM | message detail | (edited)
Kaim vs. Caim who ya got
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#57 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/2/2013 11:15:03 AM | message detail
I have Kaim.LO is a great game.
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#58 | transcience | Posted 8/2/2013 11:39:09 AM | message detail
whoops got tag teamed by the Poison defense force
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#59 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/2/2013 12:24:54 PM | message detail
I'll be honest I wish Kaim were doing worse here.
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#60 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/2/2013 12:53:52 PM | message detail | (edited)
KamikazePotato posted...
Kaim vs. Caim who ya got


Kaim X Caim X Kain
#61 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/2/2013 3:09:43 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
And it looks like I may finally sweep a match as long as Scorpion doesn't gain much the rest of the way

Aw yeah

Oh wait I guess the silly substitute Guest analysis thing will count

Oh well I'll settle for 2 out of 3


Not even close. Moltar and KP were literally perfect on Scorpion, and no matter which Guest Analysis you take the Guest crew gets a point because l3fty was extremely close on Sora and I was only 0.01% off on Aya.
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#62 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/2/2013 3:19:43 PM | message detail
I said that at 7 A.M. and the percentages drastically shifted from there!

Sheesh.
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#63 | transcience | Posted 8/2/2013 3:23:50 PM | message detail
some people get really into their percentages
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#64 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/2/2013 3:41:36 PM | message detail
It's all I've got man

and I can't even get them to add up to 100% half the time

my life is in shambles
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#65 | Surskit | Posted 8/2/2013 3:57:38 PM | message detail
hey I want that magus accuracy point! My write-up was totally legit.
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#66 | paulg235 | Posted 8/2/2013 4:33:49 PM | message detail
I was the one who signed up for the match in the sign up topic, so only mine counted.
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#67 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/2/2013 8:48:00 PM | message detail
Division 6: Round 1 - Match 51 Ė (8) Groose vs. (11) Lu Bu vs. (20) Yoshimitsu

Moltarís Analysis

Groose
Getting loose all over this Contest

Lu Bu
Do not pursue Round 2

Yoshimitsu
this group is weird

This is actually a match we're having in 2013. I don't even know what to make of this group.

Anyway, I think Groose wins easily, but the issue is that there shouldn't ever be a case where I can say that Groose easily wins a Contest match.

Dynasty Warriors and Tekken/SC aren't worth much on GameFAQs, while Zelda is. That goes for characters from those series too. Skyward Sword might be one of the weaker Zelda games in terms of strength, but it's still head and shoulders above those other series. That alone gives me enough confidence to back Groose here.

Plus, if this one is close, you know who is going to get rally support. That's just insurance for me.

Moltarís Prediction: Groose: 45% - Lu Bu: 25% - Yoshimitsu: 30%



Lopenís Analysis

When the bracket was released, I thought Yoshimitsu had this for sure. Then Nightmare looked like a complete chump. Strangely enough, however, I... still think he has it. The "smart" pick seems to be Groose here but I just can't pick him. I think that's just getting a little too smart for our own good. Skyward Sword was less appreciated than a lot of Zeldas and Groose is pretty minor. Yoshimitsu just overwhelmingly feels like the "common sense" pick to me in this match, so I'm not going to shy away from it... not this time.

Thinking about it, this feels a lot like N/Bayonetta/whoever the third one was to me. There's a mainstream recognizable name and random Nintendo Character C that's from a newer game in a big series, and a more obscure #3. Dynasty Warriors is getting bigger all the time and I think Lu Bu actually has the most legit fans of this bunch (throw Solid Snake in here as a fourth and I have Lu Bu getting #2) so Lu Bu winning wouldn't completely surprise me... but... yeah... I like Yoshimitsu to make a joke of this poll here, Nightmare's result be damned.

Lopen's prediction:
Yoshimitsu - 45.82%
Groose - 30.30%
Lu Bu - 23.88%



Leonhartís Analysis

The further in this division we go, the more I realize what a mess this thing is. At first, I had Yoshimitsu winning because Skyward Sword is probably one of the weaker mainline Zeldas and Groose isnít really an important character, from what Iíve been told. But then I remembered how badly Yoshimitsu did in the vote-in in 2010, and I started having second thoughts about the pick. Although the site isnít big on Tekken or SoulCalibur, but people should at least know who he is, I think. I dunno. This match is dumb. Lu Buís got no shot though because not even Board 8 cares about Dynasty Warriors. Oh, and if you think Lu Bu will do well because heís based on a historical figure and people will recognize the name, you clearly got taught different stuff in your history classes than I did because we never learned about this guy when I was in school!

Leonhartís Vote: Yoshimitsu

Leonhartís Prediction:

Groose Ė 42.00%
Yoshimitsu Ė 34.00%
Lu Bu Ė 24.00%
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#68 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/2/2013 8:48:24 PM | message detail
Kleenexís Analysis

CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THIS GILGAMESH WINNING

I have no idea how this match is going to go, nor do I really care! I have Yoshimitsu in my bracket and I kinda regret that now, but honestly I'd regret having any of these three at the moment. Groose is from Zelda and kinda meme-ish, while Lu Bu is just kinda meme-ish. Perhaps if Lu Bu was from Zelda this could be close.

Kleenex's Prediction
Groose with 38.00%
Lu Bu with 32.00%
Yoshimitsu with 30.00%



Transienceís Analysis

GROOSE

WHAT IS A GROOSE

IS IT BETTER THAN A LU BU

SCREW YOU, GIVE ME YOSHIMITSU (this contest is stupid)

TRANSIENCE'S PREDICTION: YOSHIMITSU WITH 41%, LU BU WITH 30%, GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE WITH 29%



KP's Analysis

I've showed the bracket to some friends that know nothing about these contests, and the unanimous pick for best Round 1 match is this one. Groose vs. Lu Bu vs. Yoshimitsu cracks me up every time I see it. Anyway, Groose probably wins because he's from Zelda and the other two aren't (also Yoshimitsu looked terrible in his one poll), but I wouldn't be surprised if LU BU wins this simply because it's LU BU. I think IT'S LU BU, RUN is popular enough on the internet these days to give him a bit of a boost.

Groose - 41%
Lu Bu - 33%
Yoshimitsu - 26%



Guestís Analysis - Black Turtle

Groose
Tingle 2.0

Lu Bu
Pro-tip: Do not pursue him

Yoshimitsu
Man, this match both sucks AND blows

Analysis
Well folks, this is it, easily the most debated and up-in-the-air matchup of the first round. It doesn't help that all 3 of these characters likely qualify as turbofodder. I say likely, because we really don't have any idea how ANY of them would stack up in a normal contest.

Groose supporters claim that simply being from a Zelda game would carry him forward, and I'd be inclined to agree with them if he was from any game in the series except Skyward Sword. I'd wager that Skyward Sword has the lowest playrate out of any Zelda game (at least in GameFAQs terms).

Lu Bu supporters claim that being in all of the Dynasty Warriors games would help him through, but RotTK games are notorious for their ensemble casts, and I'm not quite sure Lu Bu is recognizable enough for people to remember where he's from.

This leaves Yoshimitsu of Tekken fame. His game probably has the highest playrate of the 3, and he's definitely more standout than Groose or Lu Bu. I think the intangibles support him taking the match.

Then again, I have no clue how this will really turn out, and I'm basically just guessing at this point, along with everyone else.

TuRtLe's Prediction:
Yoshimitsu - 37%
Groose - 33%
Lu Bu 29%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Yoshimitsu
TuRtLe's Vote: Lu Bu



Crew Consensus: Groose is the slight favorite over Yoshimitsu
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#69 | th3l3fty | Posted 8/2/2013 8:51:47 PM | message detail
lu bu got this
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#70 | ZFS | Posted 8/2/2013 8:52:19 PM | message detail
GROOSE is the best.
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#71 | transience | Posted 8/2/2013 9:05:44 PM | message detail
GROOSEFAQS
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#72 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/2/2013 9:13:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, this match is awful. I had Yoshimitsu > Groose > Lu Bu right up until the Crono/Kerrigan/Missile match, and then we found out that there are preplanned rallies for Groose, and these three all look like fodder so the one with the pre-planned rally gets my Expert Challenge pick.
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#73 | ZFS | Posted 8/2/2013 9:23:21 PM | message detail
ZELDA made this match easy enough, I think. Groose is a highlight of SS!
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#74 | transcience | Posted 8/2/2013 9:37:15 PM | message detail
Zelda needs rallying to beat Lu Bu
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#75 | LinkLegend27 | Posted 8/2/2013 9:37:31 PM | message detail
Wait.. this match is considered the most highly debated of R1?
#76 | Lopen | Posted 8/2/2013 9:47:12 PM | message detail
Well it's probably not most debated because who cares but as far as "who the hell wins this" it really should be.
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#77 | ZFS | Posted 8/2/2013 9:58:11 PM | message detail
Also think people are kind of underestimating Skyward Sword's playrate. It might not be up there with OoT or LTTP, but it still dwarfs Tekken and Dynasty Warriors.
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#78 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 10:11:27 PM | message detail
Yeah but does it dwarf Tekken and SoulCalibur COMBINED?!
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#79 | Lopen | Posted 8/2/2013 10:39:00 PM | message detail
I think you can know who Yoshimitsu is without having played Tekken or Soul Calibur anyway. He's just a recognizable name. Like I said I really feel like a Bayonetta/N rerun is coming here. I bet Black/White's playrate > Skyward Sword's and I bet Groose is about as mixed as N is reactionwise.
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#80 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/2/2013 10:40:48 PM | message detail
The only game worth anything anymore from either of those series is Soul Caliber 2, which is only because of, you got it, Link!

Groose to ZeldagameSFF Yoshimitsu.
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#81 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/2/2013 10:48:37 PM | message detail
LeonhartFone posted...
Yeah but does it dwarf Tekken and SoulCalibur COMBINED?!


if x>y, does x>y+0


lolcalibur
#82 | transcience | Posted 8/2/2013 11:10:29 PM | message detail
holy joke character
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#83 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/2/2013 11:16:42 PM | message detail
Man, Lu Bu might take second if this continues
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#84 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/2/2013 11:17:05 PM | message detail
My Groose is cooked
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#85 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/2/2013 11:27:01 PM | message detail | (edited)
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Man, Lu Bu might take second if this continues


At this rate he could take first.

EDIT: nvm, huge gain for Yoshi now.
#86 | transcience | Posted 8/2/2013 11:30:59 PM | message detail
man, I didn't want to make a big deal of it because seriously it's Lu Bu, but why was anyone ever on the Groosewagon? he seemed obviously a board 8 creation. Skyward Sword is not the same as regular nostalgic Zelda. the next one won't be either. that series is not the big deal that it once was.
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#87 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/2/2013 11:34:15 PM | message detail
transcience posted...
man, I didn't want to make a big deal of it because seriously it's Lu Bu, but why was anyone ever on the Groosewagon? he seemed obviously a board 8 creation. Skyward Sword is not the same as regular nostalgic Zelda. the next one won't be either. that series is not the big deal that it once was.


Because people outside the board love Groose lots. My basis for it wasn't the board, actually!
#88 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/2/2013 11:34:45 PM | message detail
it's always so obvious in hindsight isnt it
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#89 | Dr_Coffee | Posted 8/2/2013 11:42:47 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
transcience posted...
man, I didn't want to make a big deal of it because seriously it's Lu Bu, but why was anyone ever on the Groosewagon? he seemed obviously a board 8 creation. Skyward Sword is not the same as regular nostalgic Zelda. the next one won't be either. that series is not the big deal that it once was.


Because people outside the board love Groose lots. My basis for it wasn't the board, actually!


Nope. Nobody love Groose lots. That's why he is losing to a Dynasty Warriors character
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#90 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/2/2013 11:45:34 PM | message detail
Dr_Coffee posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
transcience posted...
man, I didn't want to make a big deal of it because seriously it's Lu Bu, but why was anyone ever on the Groosewagon? he seemed obviously a board 8 creation. Skyward Sword is not the same as regular nostalgic Zelda. the next one won't be either. that series is not the big deal that it once was.


Because people outside the board love Groose lots. My basis for it wasn't the board, actually!


Nope. Nobody love Groose lots. That's why he is losing to a Dynasty Warriors character


Sorry, but the world disagrees with you on this. (PS people who know DW are big on Lu Bu too, dude's an enormous meme for his fanbase). Groose is well-liked. Just not on GameFAQS, which was my mistake!
#91 | Dr_Coffee | Posted 8/2/2013 11:47:45 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Dr_Coffee posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
transcience posted...
man, I didn't want to make a big deal of it because seriously it's Lu Bu, but why was anyone ever on the Groosewagon? he seemed obviously a board 8 creation. Skyward Sword is not the same as regular nostalgic Zelda. the next one won't be either. that series is not the big deal that it once was.


Because people outside the board love Groose lots. My basis for it wasn't the board, actually!


Nope. Nobody love Groose lots. That's why he is losing to a Dynasty Warriors character


Sorry, but the world disagrees with you on this. (PS people who know DW are big on Lu Bu too, dude's an enormous meme for his fanbase). Groose is well-liked. Just not on GameFAQS, which was my mistake!


Nope. GameFAQs likes Zelda more than the world. So if Groose is not liked here, the world really must hate Groose
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#92 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/3/2013 12:04:54 AM | message detail
RIP zeldafear
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#93 | Lopen | Posted 8/3/2013 12:30:28 AM | message detail
I think no one knows who Groose is more than people don't like him.

Kinda skeptical Skyward Sword's playrate is far over 50% on this site and if you haven't played the game you have no idea who the hell he is.
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#94 | transience | Posted 8/3/2013 3:58:01 AM | message detail
ugh I feel worse about making that post after seeing Dr Coffee go all fedor on the board

sorry
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#95 | Lopen | Posted 8/3/2013 4:01:37 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
LeonhartFone posted...
Yeah but does it dwarf Tekken and SoulCalibur COMBINED?!


if x>y, does x>y+0


lolcalibur


Man I just realized the implication here is that of the two, Soul Calibur is the one with less draw here.

Soul Calibur crushes Tekken on this site. Not even close just look at contest results.
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#96 | Lopen | Posted 8/3/2013 4:05:51 AM | message detail
Or better yet just look at: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3995

(Or the one from a few years before that where Soul Calibur doubles Tekken, but I figured it's more fair to post the most recent one)
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#97 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/3/2013 4:34:43 AM | message detail
#98 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/3/2013 4:36:02 AM | message detail
Oh well, at least this is another sign of LINK'S IMPENDING DOOM
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#99 | most_games_r_ok | Posted 8/3/2013 5:56:22 AM | message detail
Still not sure why any of you had Groose to win tbqh
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#100 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/3/2013 6:46:38 AM | message detail
Dr_Coffee posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Dr_Coffee posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
transcience posted...
man, I didn't want to make a big deal of it because seriously it's Lu Bu, but why was anyone ever on the Groosewagon? he seemed obviously a board 8 creation. Skyward Sword is not the same as regular nostalgic Zelda. the next one won't be either. that series is not the big deal that it once was.


Because people outside the board love Groose lots. My basis for it wasn't the board, actually!


Nope. Nobody love Groose lots. That's why he is losing to a Dynasty Warriors character


Sorry, but the world disagrees with you on this. (PS people who know DW are big on Lu Bu too, dude's an enormous meme for his fanbase). Groose is well-liked. Just not on GameFAQS, which was my mistake!


Nope. GameFAQs likes Zelda more than the world. So if Groose is not liked here, the world really must hate Groose


That last point isn't really true anymore. Skyward Sword won G4's Best Game of 2011 contest, but got destroyed by Skyrim here.
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