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#251 | pjbasis | Posted 7/28/2013 11:08:03 PM | message detail
Master Moltar posted...
Moltar’s Analysis

Squirtle
Bulbasaur is better


Best crew member
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#252 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/28/2013 11:08:17 PM | message detail
transience posted...
sorry, force of habit/apathy

sucks for y'all who think Dante's winning next round


Squirtle's got a long way to drop from here.

Squirtle might still win though. Won't decide until we see the match pic.
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#253 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/28/2013 11:09:01 PM | message detail
Laharl looked clearly stronger than Ramza in 2010, I think.
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#254 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/28/2013 11:09:38 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Laharl looked clearly stronger than Ramza in 2010, I think.


X-Stats say otherwise!

Laharl's probably overrated from facing Sora in a night match anyway.

(And Sora has a much better day vote than Riku, before you mention Ramza faced Riku in a night match)
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#255 | transcience | Posted 7/28/2013 11:10:20 PM | message detail
whelp, time to be a jerk

D A M A G E C O N T R O L
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#256 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/28/2013 11:11:36 PM | message detail
Damage control the percents probably ending up exactly how I thought they would, yes
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#257 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/28/2013 11:12:31 PM | message detail
If Squirtle can hold mid-60s, then yeah, he'll have the advantage over Dante next round.

He drops down below 60, then who knows.
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#258 | Lopen | Posted 7/28/2013 11:14:40 PM | message detail
Yeah most of the percentage discrepancies here are from Denton sucking major ass. I don't think this is going to convince anyone either way unless Squirtle doesn't drop any. (Well, I mean, I have a major discrepancy but my analysis was saying Squirtle was going to be a low midcarder and that's probably wrong-- still a big jump from that to "beat Dante" though)
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#259 | transcience | Posted 7/28/2013 11:16:17 PM | message detail
and there he falls

I'll call Squirtle over Dante without blinking, and that's assuming he doesn't get dmc'd
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#260 | paulg235 | Posted 7/29/2013 12:15:14 AM | message detail
Darn, should've remembered to boost Squirtle's % in the oracle.

Also, did my emmergency guest write-up seriously win the accuracy challenge?
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#261 | th3l3fty | Posted 7/29/2013 12:19:56 AM | message detail
swept all three!
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#262 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/29/2013 7:25:05 AM | message detail
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 42 – (8) Spring Breeze Dancin' vs. (11) Zidane Tribal vs. (20) Ridley

Moltar’s Analysis

Dancin'
oh Board 8

Zidane
Is he going to get embarrassed by low-midcard Nintendo yet again?

Ridley
Not TOO BIG anymore

Zidane vs Ridley is a pretty good match. Dancin is a non-factor too so this could be one of the most even 1v1 matches we'll see in the contest.

Zidane and Ridley were both in the 2010 contest. Zidane lost to Ike in a very close match, and not too long ago we saw Ike get exposed by Protoman and Robotnik. Ridley got 28% on Cloud, which is a little worse than what Falcon got on Cloud. Not too long ago, Falcon nearly beat Alucard. Hmm...

Yeah, I'll stick with Zidane here. Not to go against the almighty STATS, but I wouldn't take Ridley to be at Ike's level, and pretty much anyone can overperform against Cloud. Plus, people that have played both care more about their playable FF9 protag than a Metroid boss.

...at least I think they do

Moltar’s Prediction: Dancin': 5% - Zidane: 45% - Ridley: 40%



Lopen’s Analysis

I heard XII got warned for spamming PMs to nominate Spring Breeze Dancin. You know what would've been funnier and what I would've done if I was an admin? I would've snubbed him from the bracket. That would've been funny.

Oh, a match. Yeah, Zidane and Ridley. I'd take Zidane to win this pretty easily even pre-Dissidia. Cause I maintain that the percentage of people who actually cares about Ridley is in fact very small. That being said he'll be good enough to not get totally stuffed here, if for very little other reason than being the only Nintendo option in the match.

Lopen's prediction:
Zidane - 51.00%
Ridley - 40.15%
XIII Pandering - 8.85%



Leonhart’s Analysis

I’ve heard some chatter about Spring Breeze Dancin’ possibly being a threat to beat Chester’s mark, but I kinda doubt it. The ridiculous name should get him enough votes to avoid that, as well as a little Square/Nintendo anti-voting. Anyway, as far as this match is concerned, I feel pretty good about Zidane. I know Ike didn’t exactly perform like a champ the other day, but I’d still take him to beat Ridley. I don’t usually invoke this reasoning often, but come on, it’s Ridley. Who cares about Ridley? I’m sure he’ll do fine in matches where nobody cares about anyone else in the match, but people like Zidane. And while there’s a chance FF in general is weaker, I wouldn’t be surprised if Metroid’s dropped a bit as well, considering the only thing the series has had of note since 2010 is Other M, which certainly won’t be doing Ridley any favors here. I mean, I won’t be entirely surprised if he wins because Zidane isn’t exactly unbeatable, but I refuse to pick it because it’s Ridley. He shouldn’t win this.

Leonhart’s Vote: Zidane Tribal

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Zidane Tribal – 47.00%
Ridley – 44.00%
Spring Breeze Dancin’ – 9.00%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Spring Breeze Dancin' is probably going to fall in the Caim/Chester tier of "wow these guys might lose to Tanner". So the real match is between Zidane and Ridley and I'm actually not entirely sure what the right pick is here. Zidane has never been impressive and Ridley has been...okay? The older Square characters have been looking pretty good so far this contest, but I wonder on which side of the fence Zidane falls. I suppose we'll find out.

Kleenex's Prediction
Spring Breeze Dancin' with 7.00%
Zidane with 43.00%
Ridley with 40.00%
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#263 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/29/2013 7:25:46 AM | message detail
Transience’s Analysis

I guess I should feel confident in Zidane to win this. Ridley has been irrelevant for the last few years while Metroid has been on hiatus/sucking, and old Square has done pretty well this contest. The counterargument is that Nintendo always wins, and that's almost as good of an argument on its own but I'll stick with Zidane. He seems like people should care about him more. I'm not sure that anyone really cares about a random dragon.

I'm part of the majority that has no idea what a spring breeze dancin' is so let's move on

transience's prediction: Zidane with 47%, Ridley with 40%, Spring Breeze Dancin' with 13%



KP's Analysis

I've been worried about this match forever. Ridley is actually ahead of Zidane in the 2010 stats, and Ike/Protoman more or less validated their placement there. People say Ridley overperformed on Cloud, but after what Falcon did, I don't think that's true. Also, Nintendo fans are crazy. Ridley could run away with this and I wouldn't bat an eye.

I'm not taking him, because the day I support Ridley to win a debatable match over freaking Zidane is the day turn in my FF9 Is The Best One hipster card.

Zidane - 47%
Ridley - 46%
Dancin - 7%



Fabulous Guest Analysis - Korayashi

Time for me to get involved with this year's analysis crew, and with the perfect match too! Yes, the Decade of Dancin' has all come down to this. I COULDN'T BE MORE PUMPED UP!

TALE OF THE TAPE

(8) SPRING BREEZE DANCIN'

Dancin' comes to us from the N64 cult classic 'Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon'. He is the result of a nomination rally that I've been running since I originally joined the board in 2004. Upon hearing the field of this contest would be so large the DECADE OF DANCIN' took flight, largely due to the tireless efforts of XIII_Rocks. SBD's place in the bracket still baffles people. He is a very obscure character from a very obscure game. How will he do?!

STRENGTH IN CHESTERS: 3

Names hold a grand value, and I personally hope he gets some form of monumental joke rally and ruins all the brackets, but even at 3 Chesters I'm probably overrating him.

vs.

(11) ZIDANE TRIBAL

Zidane is the lead for Final Fantasy IX. He's been in four prior contests and he's done very bad in some of them, most notably the time he was absolutely embarrassed in 2007. Still, he managed to perform better in later years, even winning a one-on-one affair during the 2010 CB8. Still, he's nothing to write home about...yet probably the favorite in this match.

STRENGTH IN CHESTERS: I DUNNO, 11?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2882 (Zidane, 2007, sucking it up)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3803 (Zidane, 2010, almost winning in the second round.)

So, yeah. He'll probably pull this off. But there's also...
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#264 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/29/2013 7:26:16 AM | message detail
vs.

(20) RIDLEY

That's right, it's Ridley! From Metroid! On three seperate occassions has the villain managed to make the field, including the villains contest of 2005! But even in that format it fell before Diablo. Since then it's placed third in a four way while maybe suffering from some kinda dragon SFF. Because Ridley is a dragon, right? Anyway, it's not been smooth sailing. Most recently it fell to Cloud, though looked okay in the process.

STRENGTH IN CHESTERS: 7

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2000 (Ridley, losing to Diablo badly in TEH MATCH OF TEH CONTEST!)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3770 (Ridley, overperforming by a lot while still getting blown out.)

Ridley is probably not going to win this match, but it might be a lot closer then the numbers would indicate. Because my numbers are made up and based on next to nothing. So who will win?

Korayashi's Bracket: Zidane > Ridley > Dancin'

Korayashi's Vote: Spring Breeze Dancin'. I want to be wrong, and I would take great joy in being wrong.

Korayashi's Prediction: ZIDANE 48%, RIDLEY 41%, DANCIN' 11%



Crew Consensus: Zidane slays Ridley and levels up to Round 2
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#265 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/29/2013 7:28:52 AM | message detail
Welp, we're screwed.
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#266 | handsomeboy2012 | Posted 7/29/2013 7:38:10 AM | message detail
Even Dancin' is worth 3 Chesters.
#267 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/29/2013 7:39:12 AM | message detail
So in this match we have 2 events.One is to see a close match between Zidane and Ridley and the 2nd to see if Dancing is weaker than Caim.Nice.
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#268 | pjbasis | Posted 7/29/2013 7:43:47 AM | message detail
Time to switch to Ridley.

Zidane is worth less than Ike in a day match anyway
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#269 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/29/2013 7:56:31 AM | message detail
Ridley wins, aint that some s***

oh well, f*** Zidane big-headed bastard
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#270 | transcience | Posted 7/29/2013 8:05:06 AM | message detail
now that's a crew curse
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#271 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/29/2013 8:29:36 AM | message detail
Crew Curse is TOO BIG
#272 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/29/2013 10:43:12 AM | message detail
*headdesk*
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#273 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/29/2013 11:09:41 AM | message detail
Spring Breeze Dancin' all the way to Chesterville
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#274 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/29/2013 11:26:38 AM | message detail
Whew, looks like we're safe.
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#275 | whatisurnameplz | Posted 7/29/2013 11:27:00 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Spring Breeze Dancin' all the way to Chesterville


I think he'll do better than Chester. For one thing he's actually in a game that a decent amount of people have played and not just Board 8.
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#276 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/29/2013 11:28:34 AM | message detail
Does crew tries mind games or what?Some crew members have percentages that if you add them it equals to 90% instead of 100%.Are they trying to confuse us?
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#277 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/29/2013 11:30:04 AM | message detail
some of us just don't feel the characters in the match deserve a collective 100%
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#278 | handsomeboy2012 | Posted 7/29/2013 11:33:10 AM | message detail
Are all 8-seeds joke characters nominated by board 8?
#279 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/29/2013 11:33:51 AM | message detail
Hero is legitimate. The rest are jokes that got in with or without B8 support.
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#280 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/29/2013 11:34:45 AM | message detail
Wait, Groose is also legitimate.
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#281 | MasterMoltar | Posted 7/29/2013 11:36:26 AM | message detail
Just realized I meant 5-50-45 for my prediction, not 5-45-40

oh well at least this isn't the oracle
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#282 | handsomeboy2012 | Posted 7/29/2013 11:38:35 AM | message detail
Most 8-seed characters are jokes or from obscure games. There is no way they could get such a relatively high seed.

....Unless it's related to board 8 in some way.
#283 | Lopen | Posted 7/29/2013 2:30:46 PM | message detail
Can't help but feel like I'd have competition for the Zidane point if two crew members hadn't put 90% total percentage for their prediction but I'll take it.
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#284 | FantasyFreak999 | Posted 7/29/2013 3:43:39 PM | message detail | (edited)
Wow, didn't expect Dancin' to be quite THIS bad
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#285 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/29/2013 3:43:23 PM | message detail
I don't see why I should get called out when Moltar gets off scot-free!
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#286 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/29/2013 3:46:16 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Zidane is worth less than Ike in a day match anyway


Zidane/Ike was a day match, dude.

Ridley TOO BIG for the Crew Curse
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#287 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/29/2013 4:00:06 PM | message detail
Pretty sure Zidane/Ike was on the weekend, so I don't think it being a day match really mattered that much.
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#288 | voltch | Posted 7/29/2013 4:37:33 PM | message detail
Where did the all caps writeups go?
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#289 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/29/2013 8:34:45 PM | message detail | (edited)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5181
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5182

Crew Predictions - 37/40

What Happened: Lugia and Dante got around 60% in their matches

What will Happen: Could Lugia beat Frog? Could Squirtle beat Dante? PokeFAQs!



Crew Prediction Challenge - things

Kleenex - 37
Moltar - 37
KP - 37
Tran - 34
Leon - 34
Guest - 33
Lopen - 31

Crew Expert Challenge - and stuff

Tran - 31
Kleenex - 31
KP - 30
Moltar - 29
Leon - 28
Guest - 25
Lopen - 23


Crew Accuracy Challenge - Moltar sweeps Sly/York/Lugia, PaulG sweeps Dante/Laharl/Raz

Moltar - 27
Leon - 21
Lopen - 20
Kleenex - 19
Tran - 18
KP - 13
Guest - 12 (Kuza, Kotetsu (2), Tsunami, Suor, Turtle, LMS (2), Nintendoboy, PaulG (3))
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#290 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/29/2013 9:18:56 PM | message detail
can't wait to see how low people put Kat

she's going to get Vita-SFF'd into hell by Yu

literally only two characters in the bracket that could do that to her out of 250+ and she draws one
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#291 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/29/2013 9:19:37 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...


she's going to get Vita-SFF'd into hell by Yu

literally only two characters in the bracket that could do that to her out of 250+ and she draws one


why did I laugh at this

poor kat
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#292 | ZFS | Posted 7/29/2013 9:24:10 PM | message detail
Poor nothing Yu Narukami for all the votes
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#293 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/29/2013 9:44:56 PM | message detail
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 43 – (3) Yu Narukami vs. (16) Shadow the Hedgehog vs. (25) Kat

Moltar’s Analysis

Yu
yessssssssssss

Shadow
yessssssssssss

Kat
who

I love and hate this match. Love it because Yu made the contest and is facing a Shadow. Hate it because Yu loses.

But I am going to love the fact that Mr. 45% on freakin' Mario is finally going to win a match again. Shadow has decent strength and is the most recognizable character of the bunch, which helps when the opposition is a (not as obscure anymore) JRPG character and a Vita game character. That alone should be enough to coast by.

People do like P4 and its Brotag, so I'm hoping Yu can look good in defeat.

Moltar’s Prediction: Yu: 37% - Shadow: 55% - Kat: 8%



Lopen’s Analysis

Ugh... ugh. I really want to pick Yu here. But I mean, Sonic the Hedgehog/icon characters have looked pretty good and Chie looked pretty bad. All the evidence supports that Yu will do poorly, but how often has Shadow actually pulled through in a match that got any talk at all?

I think with a #3 that is less bad Yu would find a way to win, but Shadow should be able to squeak one out. Kat may take some of Yu's IT'S JUST LIKE ONE OF MY ANIMES votes, too.

Lopen's prediction:
Shadow the Hedgehog - 45.03%
Yu Narukami - 39.95%
Kat - 15.02%



Leonhart’s Analysis

This match became a lot easier to call once the contest actually started. We’ve already seen Chie in action, and she didn’t do all that great against Jak. Sonic Team has also been doing well in its matches so far, so while Shadow isn’t exactly well liked, he should have enough to get through here. He got 48% on Amaterasu last time, which isn’t that bad. Plus, I think Yu will probably suffer from the name thing. No, not because his name is uber-Japanese, but because that name appears nowhere in Persona 4, not even in the instruction manual. I didn’t even realize this was the P4 main character until someone pointed it out to me, and I’m in the middle of playing the game! Also, Kat’s only chance of doing well is if voters confuse her with some other more famous, well liked Kat, like…uh…Yeah, she’s boned.

Leonhart’s Vote: Yu Narukami

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Shadow the Hedgehog – 50.00%
Yu Narukami – 40.00%
Kat – 10.00%



Kleenex’s Analysis

I kinda think that everyone who thinks Yu has a shot here is kidding themselves, especially after Chie failed to impress. Sure, Yu is the main character and all, but I just don't think Persona 4 characters are going to be worth anything, even if the game itself is worth a bit more than nothing. Shadow's not as good as he used to be, but I think he should probably win this match with relative ease. And Kat is likely getting wrecked in this match. I'm one of the three people in world who even has a Vita and I've never played Gravity Rush. I should give it a shot at some point.

Kleenex's Prediction
Yu with 36.00%
Shadow with 49.00%
Kat with 15.00%



Transience’s Analysis

I considered Yu for about a week. I mean, nobody likes Shadow and Persona's getting bigger and bigger each day. But then it hit me: probably 50% of the voters are not going to know either of these guys and are going to see a very recognizable hedgehog. Seems simple enough.

Add in that dated mascots are doing pretty well this year and how Chie managed to come in third to the lol Draven pack, and this seems like an obvious doubling.

transience's prediction: Shadow with 56%, Yu with 33%, Kat with 11%
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#294 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/29/2013 9:45:02 PM | message detail
KP's Analysis

I would love for Shadow to choke this, but it's really hard to see it happening. I don't think Yu is going to be strong enough to take advantage of Shadow's inherent failings. Re-run this match after Shadow the Hedgehog 2 comes out and reminds everyone of how awful the character its.

Shadow - 55%
Yu - 33%
Kat - 12%



Guest’s Analysis - Sir Chris

Pre-contest I made the genius move of taking Yu over Shadow, because I didn't really think anyone liked Shadow and clearly the main character from my favorite game could beat him. Upon reflection this probably was a tactical error, in no small part due to the fact that Shadow actually looked decent last contest despite my amazing memory telling me otherwise. Honestly if Sonic had done badly I might have had a shred of hope about this match, but Sonic killed it so Shadow is probably going to do some horrible things which make me die inside because Persona 4 is awesome and Yu is pretty great.

Shadow's always been pretty respectable, so if Yu can actually beat him it'd mean most of the Persona fans stuck around from three years ago but I just can't see it now given everything that has happened. Kat is going to be a completely nonfactor, hurting Yu a little bit I guess since she is on the Vita but I guess she should pick up a few votes due to that standout factor nonsense or whatever.

Feel free to validate my bracket and make me feel good about this contest, Yu. Although I doubt you will do it.

Shadow - 49%
Yu - 39%
Last Place Girl - 12%



Crew Consensus: Yu faces his Shadow, the true self, and loses.
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#295 | Big Bob | Posted 7/29/2013 9:50:01 PM | message detail
Master Moltar posted...

Crew Consensus: Yu faces his Shadow, the true self, and loses.


Amazing.
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#296 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/29/2013 9:50:28 PM | message detail
lol barely anyone even mentions kat
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#297 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/29/2013 10:00:42 PM | message detail
Yu know, I never really noticed the Shadow thing before now.

Kinda wonder if that was intentional.
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#298 | th3l3fty | Posted 7/29/2013 10:05:18 PM | message detail
this seems like an obvious doubling.

transience's prediction: Shadow with 56%, Yu with 33%


what
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#299 | Articuno2001 | Posted 7/29/2013 10:06:38 PM | message detail
From: ZenOfThunder | #296
lol barely anyone even mentions kat


If you have a Vita you probably have Persona 4 Golden.

That probably cuts into any votes Kat would get.
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#300 | pjbasis | Posted 7/29/2013 10:09:36 PM | message detail
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