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#451 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/15/2013 5:52:49 AM | message detail | quote
Yeah I find it strange.I mean people had faith in Nightmare?
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#452 | Achromatic | Posted 7/15/2013 5:55:05 AM | message detail | quote
Come on Nightmare, get up to 26% you sack of ****!
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#453 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/15/2013 6:40:12 AM | message detail | quote
Wow, this is incredible. Phoenix is just killing this match!
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#454 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/15/2013 6:43:15 AM | message detail | quote
Didn't really expect much of Nightmare, but Phoenix and Marth aren't exactly the strongest out there.

That morning vote better come soon, or Marth surely wont get to 37,5
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#455 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/15/2013 7:17:23 AM | message detail | quote
Division 2: Round 1 - Match 14 – (5) KOS-MOS vs. (14) Dunban vs. (23) Vincent Valentine

Moltar’s Analysis

KOS-MOS
How did she get enough noms for a 5-seed?

Dunban
How did Xenoblade get all these reps?

Vincent
How did this guy almost miss the contest altogether?

Poor Vincent, the guy has beaten Noble Nine members and still can't get enough noms to earn a respectable seed. Neither KOS-MOS nor Dunban even come close to the Noble Nine, so that right there tells you that Vincent is going to win here and win big.

We've seen KOS-MOS and she's decent high-fodder, which is more than I can say for Dunban. She's got second place all locked up.

Moltar’s Bracket: Vincent > KOS-MOS > Dunban

Moltar’s Prediction: KOS-MOS: 28% - Dunban: 14% - Vincent: 58%



Lopen’s Analysis

Vincent should be okay to beat the hot death bot because he's not black, but it'll be interesting to see just how seething the FFVII hate is vs how much of it is racism. I mean Vincent's soul is black but I don't think that's quite the same thing.

Much like Caim a few days ago I don't know remember who the third guy is so he must be from Lost Odyssey or Xenoblade or... he's not from Drakkengard is he!?! Let's hope not.

Lopen's prediction:
Vincent - 52.25%
KOS-MOS - 32.01%
The other guy - 15.74%



Leonhart’s Analysis

If you love RPGs, this match is for you! Unless you don’t particularly like FFVII (or Vincent), then this match may not be for you. While FFVII may have lost a step in recent years, Vinny’s still got this match on lockdown. We haven’t seen KOS-MOS in a while and Xenosaga hasn’t been relevant (relatively speaking, of course) in forever, so I’m not sure how well she’ll do here. She’ll probably get a decent amount of votes just based off of her design though, so I think she’ll get second here. Not expecting much from Dunban though. I’ve never played Xenoblade, but he’s not usually the guy I hear people talking about, so I don’t think he’ll wind up being surprisingly decent here.

also I will laugh at anyone who predicts this match will have “Xeno LFF”

Leonhart’s Vote: Vincent Valentine

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Vincent Valentine – 64.50%
KOS-MOS – 20.00%
Dunban – 15.50%



Kleenex’s Analysis

RPG zone. We all know Vincent's getting first here, there's not much to discuss as far as that's concerned. What this match really is, is a chance for Xenoblade to prove its worth, against another Xeno property, no less! Unfortunately I don't think it's going to do it. KOS-MOS has been shockingly capable of looking respectable in every match she's been in. It's kind of a shame she didn't make it into the 2010 contest (I didn't realize this until just now - how did she get a 5 seed here but fail to make it in then?) She's even farther removed from her games than she was the last time we saw her, but I just...don't have a good feeling about Xenoblade. The zeitgeist has passed and while the game is still held in high regard it's just not talked about as much anymore. Dunban did kind of get a bum matchup here, but KOS-MOS should take down second place.

Also she's the only one in the match with boobs so there's that.

Kleenex's Prediction

KOS-MOS with 29.17%
Dunban with 17.39%
Vincent with 53.44%
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#456 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/15/2013 7:20:38 AM | message detail | quote | (edited)
Transience’s Analysis

BRAIN SAYS THAT VINCENT, A TOP 10 CHARACTER IN THIS CONTEST, WILL DOMINATE TWO XENO CHARACTERS THAT ARE MID-TIER AT BEST AND SHARE A FANBASE. MIND SAYS “BARRET SUCKED AND FF7 NEVER PUMMELS OPPONENTS LIKE IT PROBABLY SHOULD.” VINCENT ISN’T REALLY COMPETING WITH KOS-MOS OR DUNBAN, BUT WITH SONIC WHO PUT UP A NICE 66% ON SOME CHARACTERS THAT I FORGET. VINCENT DOESN’T NEED TO GO THAT HIGH BUT IT’D BE NICE IF HE COULD HIT THE HIGH-50S AT THE VERY LEAST.

TRANSIENCE’S PREDICTION: VINCENT WITH 56.10%, KOS-MOS WITH 28.39%, DUNBAN WITH 15.51%



KP's Analysis

I'd love to see Dunban get 2nd here, but I'm not sure how he does. KOS-MOS has always been stronger than she has any right to be and is the main character of her series (Shion doesn't exist). Dunban isn't the main character and Xenoblade is very untested. The game's character overall would need to be pretty strong for a non-main character to beat someone legitimate like KOS-MOS, and I'm not willing to pull the trigger on that.

Vincent's performance here should help shed light on whether or not Barret was simply RacistFAQs or a sign of FF7 dropping overall.

Vincent - 56%
KOS-MOS - 26%
Dunban - 18%



Guest’s Analysis - Ctes

Okay, so it was cool seeing KOS-MOS seemingly getting a victory until a very underseeded Vincent was thrown in here. Anti-FFVII will keep it away from the very high percentages, but Vincent is gonna win this one with ease. I don't think the anti-FFVII voting is as big as people think after Barret. I just think Barret isn't that strong. Look at Shepard and his competition. Barret wasn't that bad. KOS-MOS is at least fairly good. We don't about Dunban. This match would be good to get an early judgement on Shulk and Reyn, but I think there'll be some kind of LFF here, that allows Vincent to do even better.

Thus Vincent should finish somewhere around 50-60%. Due to his near elite status, I'll put him in the better half. I don't believe this match will tell us much about Sonic vs. Vincent yet. Vincent likely has stronger competition, but his likely has LFF involved so you really can't tell. As for second place, KOS-MOS and Dunban probably aren't that far from each other, though SFF might make someone look worse than reality. I'm pretty confident KOS-MOS will get second, but Dunban taking it is not impossible.

Vincent Valentine – 58,45%
KOS-MOS – 23,22%
Dunban – 18,33%


Crew Consensus: Vincent wins this RPGfest
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#457 | transcience | Posted 7/15/2013 9:41:54 AM | message detail | quote
10000 vote barrier reached

I wonder how Phoenix does next round.
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#458 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/15/2013 9:43:45 AM | message detail | quote
Wright won a match, ya'll

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#459 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:03:00 AM | message detail | quote
go my kosmos
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#460 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2013 11:04:01 AM | message detail | quote
How is KOS-MOS still strong

Did anyone even like Xenosaga
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#461 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:04:31 AM | message detail | quote
There are at least 3 people on the crew who do!
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i'll do rydia -Dante
#462 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2013 11:04:53 AM | message detail | quote
I don't believe you
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#463 | xp1337 | Posted 7/15/2013 11:05:03 AM | message detail | quote
which xenosaga?

this is important.
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#464 | transcience | Posted 7/15/2013 11:05:26 AM | message detail | quote
better than xenoblade
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#465 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:06:40 AM | message detail | quote
I like Xenoblade better as a game, but I definitely like Xenosaga's characters more than 'blade's!
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i'll do rydia -Dante
#466 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2013 11:07:22 AM | message detail | quote
Yeah we should totally get Shion into a character battle
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#467 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:11:13 AM | message detail | quote
she'd probably beat dunbland
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#468 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2013 11:20:03 AM | message detail | quote
But uh in all seriousness I don't like this result from Vincent. He'll go up but starting at 57% on KOS-MOS isn't too hot. Considering this is happening the day after Barret did worse on Layton than Isaac, it's worth thinking about.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#469 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:21:29 AM | message detail | quote
I think it's great that Vincent is taking all of his % from Dunban
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i'll do rydia -Dante
#470 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2013 11:26:03 AM | message detail | quote
I don't even like Dunban that much! I just think the other two games/characters in this poll are bad!

I think this is the '3rd place factor' rearing it's head again, though. Maybe Dunban is really worth 18% on Vincent and Nightmare is really worth 30% on Phoenix, but that seems kind of out there to me. We've seen this happen enough times to the point where it's becoming almost trend!
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#471 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:28:09 AM | message detail | quote
Third place factor sounds kinda like middle pic factor to me
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#472 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2013 11:31:26 AM | message detail | quote
I mean we saw this happen a bunch of times in 4-ways, it's not like it's a particularly new idea!
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#473 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:34:20 AM | message detail | quote
I think it's more likely Dunban is just weak and is getting SFF'd!
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i'll do rydia -Dante
#474 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 11:50:19 AM | message detail | quote
FF7 trends never cease to amaze.
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#475 | transcience | Posted 7/15/2013 11:51:13 AM | message detail | quote
yeah Dunban is just weak. don't make excuses for him, we have no reason to think he's anything but weak.
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#476 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/15/2013 11:52:28 AM | message detail | quote
so

Zack/RyuH/Kefka
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#477 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/15/2013 2:24:05 PM | message detail | quote
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
so

Zack/RyuH/Kefka


Tough call. FF7's definitely down, so an LFF is perhaps kind of dangerous, but Aerith's beating of Rinoa suggests that FF7 can still put up strong numbers when SFFing something else FF, and there's really no way of knowing until the match happens if Ryu H has fallen or not.
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#478 | Lopen | Posted 7/15/2013 2:29:28 PM | message detail | quote
I've had Ryu H the whole time and this/yesterday's match isn't really making me more or less confident in it. I think it's more on Ryu H than FF7 there.
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#479 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2013 2:40:05 PM | message detail | quote
FFVII isn't good at blowing out fodder anymore, this isn't even new to this contest. FFVII proves its strength against actually good characters.
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#480 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/15/2013 3:44:09 PM | message detail | quote | (edited)
Whoa Dunban, stop being this terrible, SFF or not.
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#481 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/15/2013 3:43:00 PM | message detail | quote
Lopen posted...
I've had Ryu H the whole time and this/yesterday's match isn't really making me more or less confident in it. I think it's more on Ryu H than FF7 there.


Well, that's just the thing. I had Ryu H because I thought Kefka would leech Zack, but I just realized that there is absolutely no reason for Ryu H to be as strong as he's been in the past.
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#482 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2013 3:43:40 PM | message detail | quote
Hayabusa gets his strength from being a cool-looking ninja. As long as he doesn't get an Arabusa picture, he'll be fine.
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#483 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/15/2013 3:51:35 PM | message detail | quote
Still can't believe there were 10 empty spots in the signups for guest analysis. Most years I had to try to predict when the signup topic would be made in order to get there in time for a spot!
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#484 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/15/2013 3:53:08 PM | message detail | quote
I'm banking on NG3 being so goddamn soul crushingly 3/10 bad that it erased most of the goodwill Ryu H had.
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#485 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2013 3:53:51 PM | message detail | quote
LeonhartFour posted...
FFVII isn't good at blowing out fodder anymore, this isn't even new to this contest. FFVII proves its strength against actually good characters.


Vincent himself and Tifa would beg to differ, at least judging off of last contest. Unless you want to hold Vincent/Guybrush against Vincent because he barely did better than Ryo Hazuki I guess, but then again Guybrush would probably beat Ryo or at least break 40% on him now.

Even then, while Vincent may lose some of his obvious favorite anti-votes (which is a shady theory considering he's a lowly 23 seed), the normal FFVII anti-votes he gets will last right up to his match against Sonic. I can't see Sonic failing to break 60% here.

For the record, I took the Vincent upset solely on the basis of me being a huge fan of his already even though I just met him in FFVII. I remember being so excited to meet him, and he did not disappoint me one bit when I did.
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#486 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2013 3:58:07 PM | message detail | quote
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
I'm banking on NG3 being so goddamn soul crushingly 3/10 bad that it erased most of the goodwill Ryu H had.


Hayabusa's seeding already indicates that he's in trouble (going from a 7 in 2010 to a 21 here...somehow I find it hilarious that he's seeded lower than Ridley. Man, Team Ninja has seriously fallen on hard times...and I might actually start replaying Metroid: Other M soon, argh). Then there's how well he performed in 2008, when he was coming off of Ninja Gaiden II, compared to all of his other performances.

Honestly, I have no idea who I picked to win that. I think I once switched to Master Chief > Yuna and Crash > Wheatley before Leon convinced me not to go with the former, and I decided that Ninja Gaiden III would put Hayabusa at a serious disadvantage compared to last year so I kept with Zack. Stupidly enough, KEFKA is the one of those three least likely to decrease in strength, which is probably why I had him winning for a while - me being down on FFVII/NG...
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#487 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 3:58:24 PM | message detail | quote
I'll sign-up again as Guest.

What matches are available?
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#488 | ZFS | Posted 7/15/2013 4:01:58 PM | message detail | quote
I took Zack in that match and didn't think much about it. I guess there might be some LFF to consider, but I didn't think Hayabusa was on Zack's level, really, even accounting for a decrease in popularity for FFVII.
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#489 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 4:02:20 PM | message detail | quote
I have Cecil over Pit/Wrex, and he's a 21 seed.
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#490 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/15/2013 9:41:12 PM | message detail | quote
new topic - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66741531
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#491 | Master Moltar (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/16/2013 7:11:46 AM | message detail | quote
still need to archive this topic and throw it up on the crew site
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