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#301 | Kotetsu534 | message detail | filter
(4) Luigi/Waluigi vs. (5) Cecil Harvey/Golbez

Easy to call, tough as hell spread (60/40). Nintendo has looked strong so far, but the last three matches have all shown that rivalry perception is hugely important, and... who knows how people will perceive Luigi/Waluigi, but I don't know if it will be very positively. This match is made more tough to read by Cecil's presence - he was one of the biggest overperformers in round one of the 2010 contest, putting up 48% on Knuckles in the day. Then I look at Luigi's 2010 performance and see that he failed to double any of Meta Knight, the WCC and Amaterasu (in that case, failed to break 60%, though would've done so over the final 12 hours). I'm left thinking that if Cecil can hold up to Knuckles - who withstood Sonic reasonably, who beat Kirby and Ganon, etc. - he isn't going to be blown apart by Luigi, certainly not if he's carrying Waluigi. I doubt Golbez will contribute overmuch (at least not based on FFIV - I haven't played Dissidia, which he's in). After all that, I conclude there's a good deal more chance of Cecil overperforming than Luigi, so...

Luigi/Waluigi with 57.67% of the vote.
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#302 | most_games_r_ok | message detail | filter
I knew Red/Blue would have a good showing. I am a bit worried about Luigi/Waluigi though.
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#303 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | message detail | filter
They shall win.Now I find it strange that the harder match to predict so far was Conker/Ike.I mean did anybody on this board had any doubt about this?
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#304 | AppIekidjosh | message detail | filter
I may have overshot a bit
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#305 | Master Moltar (tc) | message detail | delete | filter
East Division: Round 1 - Match 10 – (4) Luigi/Waluigi vs. (5) Cecil/Golbez

Moltar’s Analysis

Luigi/Waluigi
get out waluigi

Cecil/Golbez
Not as lucky as the FF5 pair

So you know how rivalries matter and synergy and not having dead weight have been very important themes in this contest so far?

Forget about that for this match. Luigi and Waluigi being considered as rivals is pretty sad since they hardly even have a rivalry. I mean at least Cecil and Golbez have hero/villain dynamic going on. Luigi/Waluigi have...different characters you can pick in Mario Tennis and that’s about it.

Still, Luigi is strong enough to single-handedly dominate this poll. The remake helped out FF4, but I’m not taking a Cecil that couldn’t beat Knuckles over Luigi, especially when Golbez is pretty much worthless. I think even Waluigi would beat that.

Moltar’s Bracket: Luigi/Waluigi

Moltar’s Prediction: Luigi/Waluigi - 62%



Lopen’s Analysis

I feel like this match deserves a long write-up since I'm shooting for a kinda ridiculous upset, but it's really not very complicated. Lemme break it down for you.

Luigi/Waluigi isn't a real rivalry, unless you count their battle in Mario tobogganing as rivalry material. Cecil/Golbez, while it's not as good as Cecil/Kain, actually is one. Also worth noting I don't think Golbez would be a total scrub in these contests.

Waluigi is Waluigi. Kind of a disgrace to the color purple-- everyone hates that guy. The anti votes shall blot out the sun.

So yeah, I think those two factors combine, defying the odds, and get Cecil vs Golbez a narrow win. I mean you gotta figure even if its characters haven't impressed much that FFIV has the playership, at least, to capitalize on anti-votes and RIVALRY FACTOR. (I'm already getting sick of this, maybe I'll just start saying anchor for no reason.)

Lopen's prediction:
Cecil vs Golbez with 51.87%



Leon’s Analysis

Luigi/Waluigi is one of the more intriguing entities in this contest. It may be the biggest disparity between the hero and the villain in terms of strength in this contest. Luigi is easily the most popular character in this match. I sort of want to say that Waluigi would be the weakest, but would I feel comfortable picking Golbez > Waluigi? Not really. That feels like another Kuja/Master Hand waiting to happen right there.

And with that in mind, I’m taking Luigi/Waluigi here. If they can match or surpass what Red/Blue did to Raynor/Kerrigan, then I’d say they should probably be the favorites going into that round 2 match, since I think Cecil/Golbez is the stronger of the two. Let’s hope we can get some sort of hype for a future match in the contest!

Leonhart’s Prediction: Luigi vs. Waluigi with 57.75%
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Kleenex’s Analysis

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Kleenex's Prediction: Luigi vs. Waluigi with 66.34%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

I love this match. Well let me be clear, I'm between neutral and loathing of all the characters in the match, but I love what this match represents. MEDIOCRITY WOOO

Second tier Nintendo and Second tier Square teamed up with their Third tier counterparts? This is just glorious. The only problem is nobody cares about Cecil anymore, and even if every person who actually cares enough about Dissidia to remember who Golbez is shows up to vote it won't be enough to beat the "Oh hey it's Luigi I don't hate that guy I guess I'll vote for him" vote!

And none of it matters at all cause the winner gets fed to the unstoppable Poke-force next round anyway!

AKJ predix Luigi and (I refuse to admit there's anybody else in this team with 63.33%



Dante’s Analysis

Oh, poor Cecil and Golbez – if they rolled someone like Guybrush like Gilgamesh did, they’d actually stand a chance here. Unfortunately, it’s going to come down to “Nintendo Powerhouse” versus “Pre 7 final fantasy”. Really, there isn’t much else to say - Cecil loses to Luigi, how humiliating.

Winner - Luigi/Waluigi – 71.46%



Guest’s Analysis - War

Once again, the closing hours leading into a match where Cecil is facing a far stronger character has led to me flipping. Luigi is way stronger than Cecil, yes, but Golbez appears in Cecil's games. Would anyone take any Waluigi game over Final Fantasy IV, or even Dissidia? I certainly wouldn't. On top of that, Cecil/Golbez have an actual rivalry going on, while Luigi/Waluigi really, really don't. If Cecil/Golbez wins here, then anything based on old X-stats can be tossed out the window.

Maybe, maybe, will I finally get to see Cecil in the second round? HELL YEAH!

War's Prediction: Cecil/Golbez with 66.11%



Crew Consensus: Our Guest and Lopen are going with Cecil, but everyone else is backing Nintendo
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#307 | KamikazePotato | message detail | filter
Those are some pretty high predixes for Luigi considering what we've seen the last three matches.
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#308 | pjbasis | message detail | filter
lol guest.

The Cecil upset would be mighty intriguing though. I wish you the best.
#309 | Luis_Sera89 | message detail | filter
why did we let War predict an FF4 match
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#310 | WarThaNemesis2 | message detail | filter
I'm so getting a negative in my theoretical Oracle score, aren't I?
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#311 | transcience | message detail | filter
those picks seem low.
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#312 | WarThaNemesis2 | message detail | filter
Yeah I wanted to go with 70%+ but I don't think Luigi/Waluigi will be *that* much weaker than Leon/Ada.
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#313 | KamikazePotato | message detail | filter
yup
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#314 | transcience | message detail | filter
guess I was wrong! so much for round 2. better hope brackets aren't pushing Luigi here or this could me a messy upset.
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#315 | The Mana Sword | message detail | filter
make your time Link
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#316 | transcience | message detail | filter
oh man it's happening

I argued for Cecil/Golbez too on day 1 augh
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#317 | pjbasis | message detail | filter
Wish I took the upset.
#318 | The Mana Sword | message detail | filter
cecil/golbez denied
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#319 | transcience | message detail | filter
good thing this is a day match!
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#320 | Master Moltar (tc) | message detail | delete | filter
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#321 | Ngamer64 | message detail | filter
Whoops, fell asleep! Here's what I meant to post:

Luigi vs Cecil

Another dominating performance from Nintendo would normally have me thinking sky high with this percentage, given that it's Luigi for crying out loud. But HOLD UP! Iconic and nostalgia-generating the Luigi/Waluigi rivalry is not- in fact, this might be the first ever anti-Rivalry Factor! Falcon and Leon were held back by people not considering their #2s to be "real rivals", but I could see Waluigi taking it even one step further, as in "not only are these not real rivals, I'd never vote for a team with HIM on it regardless!"

Fortunately for Luigi, he lucked out by drawing a Day Match, which should be enough of a boost versus old school Final Fantasy to keep Waluigi from embarrassing him too much. Also I really like the top half of this match pic- eyes are so drawn to the mushrooms that you barely notice there's anyone else in the poll. So I'll go with...

Luigi - 62.23%
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#322 | Ngamer64 | message detail | filter
*checks results*

Whoaaaaaaaa, anti-Rivalry Factor indeed!
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#323 | Lopen | message detail | filter
Man, what a gross match.

Well at least it somehow looks less stupid than the Ezio > DK pick!
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#324 | Kotetsu534 | message detail | filter | (edited)
(3) Ryu/Ken vs. (6) Ratchet/Dr. Nefarious

With the Poketrainers posting nearly 77% on Raynor/Kerrigan, Ryu/Ken need to put up a response. But what kind of response? Sub-Zero/Scorpion blew Leon/Ada out to the tune of 73/27, and I have a hard time seeing Leon/Ada struggle with Ratchet/Nefarious, given that they eased to second in their vote in. I also have a hard time seeing Ryu/Ken not being at least as, if not moreso, as strong as the MK ninjas. It says something when the spread (76/24) is higher than for Sonic/Robotnik vs. K/Catherine and virtually everyone is backing Ryu/Ken with confidence. They should be getting near to the quadrupling here. Ratchet has done nothing in these contests to talk about - 44% on Jecht looks passable, until you consider that, even though Jecht had everything going in his favour against Zelda, it leaves him at around 58% on Travis Touchdown. Ryu/Ken should draw even with the Poketrainers here, at the very least.

Ryu/Ken with 79.6% of the vote.
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#325 | LeonhartFour | message detail | filter
Huh, Lopen and I are dominating the Accuracy Challenge, and yet our Oracle Team score doesn't reflect that!
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#327 | Ngamer64 | message detail | filter
Ryu vs Ratchet

Neato, a perfect chance to let math pick a percentage for me! Let's see, so we've got Ratchet, the guy who Luigi hung 75% on back in the day. He seems to have improved since then, though; 2010 stats predict Ryu only scores 65% head to head. Adjusting for Rivalry Matters©, we see that Ryu/Ken > Subby/Scorp and Leon/Ada > Ratchet/Someone, so this should crack the 73% we saw in that one without a problem. Only question is if Ryu goes Rivalry Crazy and smashes the 80% barrier as well...

Last thing to consider is that this is a Night Match. Everyone remembers 2004's infamous "Street Fighter LOST?!", where the game had a comfortable lead over Mario RPG before getting killed by the Day Vote, but the series hasn't been quite so Night-heavy in more recent years. SF4 was only 3%ish better in Europe than North America in GotD, for instance, so even though the Night should benefit Ryu here, I doubt it will be that significant. Let's go with something very impressive but not earth-shattering, like

Ryu - 78.69%
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#328 | Master Moltar (tc) | message detail | delete | filter
East Division: Round 1 - Match 11 – (3) Ryu/Ken vs. (6) Ratchet/Dr. Nefarious

Moltar’s Analysis

Ryu/Ken
Where is the Chun-Li vs. Juri rivalry?

Ratchet/Nefarious
Or the Ibuki vs. Makoto rivalry?

So there may be some bias here, but I would take Ryu and Ken over Sub and Scorp. I would also take Leon and Ada over Ratchet and Nefarious. This makes me think this match will be ugly.

Ryu vs. Ken is one of the better rivalries in this bracket, and I don’t see “smart” voters picking Ratchet and Nefarious over it.

Moltar’s Bracket: Ryu/Ken

Moltar’s Prediction: Ryu/Ken - 79%



Lopen’s Analysis

F, D, DF, FP. (for flames, duh)

Quintessential rivalry, and the #1 beneficiary of RIVALRY FACTOR in my book. After seeing Leon and Ada get destroyed well, you know what you doing. One for each of em.

SHORYUKEN.

Lopen's prediction:
SHORYUKEN with 83.27%



Leon’s Analysis

I’m pretty upset about Ratchet/Nefarious getting a terrible draw, but it’s not like they would have many opportunities to win elsewhere. I’m just glad they got in. Dr. Nefarious is awesome, one of my favorite video game villains. Ratchet & Clank is one of my favorite series, as you all well know by this point.

But I can’t vote them over Ryu/Ken. I just can’t. I’m probably letting my bias as a fighting game fanboy blind me here, but Ryu/Ken is just a classic rivalry. I think it’s very iconic, like when you think of video game rivalries, this is one of the big ones that comes to mind very quickly. There aren’t very many rivalries I would vote over this one. My bracket is riding on Ryu/Ken going far in this contest based on this rivalry factor, so we gotta go high here! Rise to the heavens with a Metsu Shoryuken and a Shinryuken, guys!

Leonhart’s Prediction: Ryu vs. Ken Masters with 83.50%
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Kleenex’s Analysis

Time to see what RIVALRY FACTOR is all about. Going off previous matches, Ryu and Ken should absolutely dominate this match. Ratchet is not even close to strong and the Street Fighter crew should be one of the biggest benefactor of RIVALRY FACTOR if it is indeed a real thing. I imagine people will wildly speculate about the match with Red and Blue down the line once this one is over and more than one person will probably act like an idiot about it, but such is the nature of these things. It would take a really high percentage for me to be overly impressed here, but I suppose anything is possible.

Kleenex's Prediction: Ryu vs. Ken with 76.56%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

Once upon a time this match was a complete toss-up.

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no not really. It was always obvious, but ever since Team Ninja went crazy on our resident Resident Evil team this has just been more and more ugly to think about. I mean the 3d platformer turned hardcore characters aren't exactly Gamefaqs' favorite thing in the world (sorry Conker) and Street Fighter is not completely dead. Plus EVERYONE knows Ryu and Ken.

I look forward to seeing how high the percents go!

AKJ predix Ryu and Ken with 77.77%



Dante’s Analysis

Man, before Sub/Scorp, I knew this match would end in Ryu/Ken winning comfortably and thought it’d be pretty dull. Now, I can’t wait to see just how badly they win. I’m sure Ratchet/Nefarious have some rivalry no one cares about, but Ryu/Ken have been going at it for years and if they had murdered each other a few times I’d say it was on the level of the Ninjas. I’m almost tempted to say these guys could push 80% - I mean, the ninjas have a better rivalry but they were facing leon freaking kennedy. I mean, who actually cares about Ratchet?

Winner - Ryu/Ken – 74.99%

Not quite tripled!



Crew Consensus: Ryu/Ken are going to body the Ratchet characters
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#331 | The Mana Sword | message detail | filter
DANTEEEEEEEEEEEE
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#332 | AppIekidjosh | message detail | filter
I can't breathe with all this kleenex and moltar up on me
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#333 | LeonhartFour | message detail | filter
Leonhart and Lopen the Ryu and Ken of the Crew
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#334 | Lopen | message detail | filter
As long as I'm the one with the flaming shoryukens I'm okay with this

Luckily I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing with a hobo bag in the place of the flaming shoryukens
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#335 | LeonhartFour | message detail | filter
Hadouken > Shoryuken forever

(Also bandannas > hair ties, but that's fairly self-evident)
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#336 | Master Moltar (tc) | message detail | delete | filter
Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue 76.92% 26432
Jim Raynor vs. Sarah Kerrigan 23.08% 7931
TOTAL VOTES 34363

Luigi vs. Waluigi 55.28% 21861
Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez 44.72% 17685
TOTAL VOTES 39546



Crew Predictions - 10/10

What Happened: Red and Blue dominate, and the FF4 characters do well against the Nintendo pair.

Why it Happened: Red vs Blue is a real rivalry for Pokemon fans, and it showed with that great performance. Luigi vs Waluigi is a poor rivalry, which explains the not-so-impressive performance.

What will Happen: Remember when Trainers/Luigis was debated? Not looking so close anymore...



Crew Prediction Challenge - Poor Cecil pickers

Moltar - 10
Leon - 10
AKJ - 10
Guest - 9
Kleenex - 9
Lopen - 8
Dante - 8



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Dante gets the point for Red/Blue, Leon gets the point for Luigi/Waluigi

Lopen - 3
Leon - 3
Dante - 2
AKJ - 1
Moltar - 1
Kleenex - 0
Guest - 0
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#337 | Ngamer64 | message detail | filter
Fox vs Yuna

This is the R1 match that gave me the biggest headache during bracket season. As in every time I noticed the pick I had to say "wait a minute, Fox > FFX, really? after Sora (and then Squall) smacked him upside the head just the other day?" But then I'd remember that Banjo vs Yuna result from the vote in and have to back down.

And as for the way things have been trending the last couple days, wellllllll... I'm not sure they help Fox as much as you might think. He's Nintendo, sure, but there's no iconic status or nostalgic feelings to be found here. And Fox/Wolf is cool, but I'm not sure voters will consider it a "real rivalry" like they did X/Zero and these fighting game characters. I guess the counter to that is "no one likes K. Rool or thinks he's a great rival to DK, and look how well they did!', but I'm going to say that those two had nostalgic 90s synergy due to DKC1 and 2, whereas Wolf is relying more on Brawl to bring in the voters.

Basically, I keep trying to pick against these fighter pilots but ultimately can't pull the trigger due to the Day Vote (nothing misses Europe and Asia more than FFX, especially against a Smash ASV opponent) and recent trends. Well that and Banjo. Seriously Yuna, Banjo?!

Fox - 57.87%
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#338 | ZFS | message detail | filter
Ryu/Ken semifinals here we come
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#339 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | message detail | filter
A match is considered close if the winner ends up with less than 53% right?
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#340 | LinkMarioSamus | message detail | filter
For some reason, I thought people wouldn't care much for fighting game rivalries.

I...still really don't see why people would care much for fighting game rivalries, but I guess if it's tied to some nostalgia/in-game story thing (not something I ever see myself playing a fighting game for, but then again last time I played a non-SSB fighting game was back in Summer 2005 and that was Soulcalibur II - I've never played a Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat game!), I can understand.

Fox vs. Wolf is a decent enough rivalry in Star Fox 64, a game which should be a solid midcarder on this site (forget its one SFF-ridden contest appearance). Plus Wolf has other games in that series to draw from (though I'll probably be laughed at for this suggestion).

If Yuna wins, I'm officially calling for Link's head.
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#341 | LinkMarioSamus | message detail | filter | (edited)
Lopen posted...
Nah. Link doesn't get 88% on Ganondorf if people actually care about that rivalry at all.

This. Plus Ganondorf isn't much more than the final boss in most Zelda games (and at most, Link meets Ganondorf ONCE before fighting him at the end of any individual Legend of Zelda game).

Some rivalry. Also both Ganondorf and Zelda draw most of their strength from Smash Bros. (or else Samus wouldn't be SFFing Ganondorf and Zelda), and the one time we've seen a Zelda character who didn't have SSB to draw from, said character got murdered by Scorpion.

On a side note, and this is from someone who picked Ezio > DK in his bracket, why the heck was that match debated? K. Rool is the main villain all the Rare developed Donkey Kong platformers, after all, and if Rodrigo is truly the nobody that AC fans say he is, there's no way that can stand up to DK's rivalry!

For the record, I thought K. Rool was only in the original DKC. I then remembered that K. Rool is in DK64 (which I've played in random malls) as well, and then looked him up on Super Mario Wiki and...found out that K. Rool has been in more games than Ezio.

LOL us.
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#342 | AppIekidjosh | message detail | filter
holy crap ken/ryu
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#343 | most_games_r_ok | message detail | filter
I have Ken/Ryu losing next round ;_;
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#344 | Big Bob | message detail | filter
So who is stronger, post-SC2 Kerrigan, or Ratchet?
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#345 | Kotetsu534 | message detail | filter | (edited)
(2) Fox McCloud/Wolf O'Donnell vs. (7) Yuna/Seymour

Fox vs. Yuna would actually be quite an interesting 1v1 match, over 24 hours. Fox got 32% on Solid Snake while Yuna got 43% on Zack last contest. What would Zack get on Snake? Less than Squall, certainly, though I'd expect a point or two of SFF between Yuna and Zack to bring things very close together. That's all well and nice, but there are three things going against Yuna/Seymour here. First is that it's a day match - FFX against Smash-based Nintendo is probably conducive to the biggest day/night swings possible between strong entrants, so that's a point or three pulled towards Fox/Wolf.

The second is that it is perceived* as a bad rivalry, which as we've seen is becoming of increasing importance - see the last five matches. Losing to Banjo vs. Gruntilda and barely beating The Kid/The Guy in the vote-ins is poor, and we've seen Jim/Queen, who came fifth, get annihilated by Mario/Bowser. I don't think Yuri/Flynn or CJ/Tenpenny would amount to much either so for them to both be over 7% suggests the average strength of that poll is terrible. We've already seen that having one strong character will not save a team up against a respected rivalry - see Sub/Scorp > Leon/Ada for that. You could argue, and I'd agree, that Fox/Wolf is not anywhere close to as iconic as Sub/Scorp, but it still got a two seed without a huge board rally, and Star Fox is quoted all the time, so I expect their relationship is respected enough to give them a boost here.

The final point is the picture. It's supposed to be Yuna/Seymour. Not FFX-2 Yuna/Mortibody. Sheesh.

<FFX Spoilers>

*Since I nominated Yuna/Seymour I may as well defend them. For most of the first half of the game Seymour is trying to manipulate Yuna into helping him complete his warped goals (totally at odds with what she intends to do), while Yuna is trying to persuade him to see things from her point of view. He tries to make her agree to marry her, but she resists and overpowers him in aeon combat when his true nature is revealed. He is able to escape and continues to attempt to use her, now by force, but fails. In the end, she ends his life. The nature of the use (and the ideals behind them) would be too much of a distraction to go into. I suggest the problem for Yuna/Seymour is that the player doesn't see too much of this, because Tidus is the narrator, so a lot of it happens off screen, and we never see what Yuna was thinking. I guarantee if FFX had split the narration 50/50 between Tidus and Yuna, Yuna/Seymour would be perceived as a much better rivalry!

Oh, er, the match.

Fox McCloud/Wolf O'Donnell with 60.5% of the vote.
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#346 | Master Moltar (tc) | message detail | delete | filter
East Division: Round 1 - Match 12 – (2) Fox/Wolf vs. (7) Yuna/Seymour

Moltar’s Analysis

Fox/Wolf
Gonna do a barrel roll right into round 2

Yuna/Seymour
So where’s the Peppy vs Pigma rivalry?

Fox vs. Wolf is a pretty loved rivalry by anyone familiar with the Star Fox series, and it’s likely that the rivalry is stronger than both characters individually.

If Yuna vs. Seymour didn’t already bomb in the vote-in polls, I think more people would be willing to give them a chance here. Based on everything we’ve seen so far though, Fox/Wolf shouldn’t have a problem.

I think Luigi/Waluigi didn’t perform well because it’s a poor rivalry, so Fox/Wolf shouldn’t have a hard time out-doing that number on weaker opponents.

Moltar’s Bracket: Fox/Wolf

Moltar’s Prediction: Fox/Wolf - 63%



Lopen’s Analysis

I had Yuna/Seymour here. But now I know better... and should've known better when making the bracket, honestly, this pick kinda doesn't really belong in my bracket that highly supports the “rivalries matter” notion... I blame being a Seymour fanboy.

Fox vs Wolf should win this, by a lot. Day match, and a real rivalry to Yuna/Seymour's “just good enough to be considered a rivalry” rivalry.

Lopen's prediction:
CAN'T LET YOU DO THAT, STAR FOX with 63.17%



Leon’s Analysis

You know, I might have argued hard for the upset here if it hadn’t been for that vote-in performance for Yuna/Seymour. Losing to Banjo/Gruntilda? I can’t see Fox/Wolf doin’ that. I just think Seymour is pretty disliked among the FF fanbase (Sorry, vcharon), and so he weighs Yuna down a bit. There’s a reason why Sin got into the Villains Contest instead of Seymour back in the day. I honestly feel like Yuna/Sin would’ve been more popular here, despite not really being much of a rivalry, because as far as BLARGH MONSTERS in video games are concerned, Sin’s one of the most memorable and well liked, I think.

Plus, this is a day match, which is a terrible draw for Yuna/Seymour. Star Fox has one of the best day votes in the business, and FFX’s is particularly bad. Yuna/Seymour may have had a chance at night because of how powerful it is in Europe and how bad Star Fox is at night, but during the day? I just can’t see it.

Leonhart’s Prediction Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell with 61.65%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Man, I really messed up this match. For whatever reason I decided to put down Yuna/Seymour in my bracket and I have no idea what was going through my head when I did that. It's not even a real rivalry! I also underestimated Fox and overestimated Yuna quite a bit, and it's a day match to boot. Anyway, point is I made a very bad pick and I am going to remedy it RIGHT NOW.

Watch Yuna/Seymour end up winning.

Kleenex's Prediction: Fox vs. Wolf with 58.99%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

I love this match. Well let me be clear, I'm between neutral and loathing of all the characters in the match, but I love what this match represents. MEDIOCRITY WOOO

Second tier Nintendo and Second tier Square teamed up with their Third tier counterparts? This is just glorious. The only problem is nobody cares about Yuna anymore, and even if every person who actually cares enough about the prequel to FFX-2 to remember who Seymour is shows up to vote it won't be enough to beat the "Oh hey it's Fox I don't hate that guy I guess I'll vote for him" vote!

And none of it matters at all cause the winner gets fed to the unstoppable Street Fighter force next round anyway!

AKJ predix Fox and (I refuse to admit there's anybody else in this team with 63.33%
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Dante’s Analysis

This is a fun little match, since I could honestly see it going either way. Now, I say that but realistically I don’t see any outcome besides Fox/Wolf – dudes have the rivalry going on, and Fox himself is decently powerful in these contests. Yuna/Seymour really don’t have anything, and FFX always does worse than I anticipate. Still, I don’t think this will be terribly one sided – It’ll end somewhere in the 40-60 range, I think.

Winner - Fox/Wolf – 58.37%



Guest’s Analysis - Luster Soldier

What was originally a mildly debated match during the bracket entry period has now become an absolute luck for Fox/Wolf here after seeing the rivalries actually matter in this contest. I see one parallel between this match and the Kirby/Meta Knight match. Like Kirby/Meta Knight, both Fox and Wolf are in Brawl, which certainly helps both of them out.

Yuna/Seymour already lost a vote-in to Banjo, which was blamed on Seymour's presence, since he's really weak. The vote-in result does not look good on their chance to win a match. This is a match that could go above 60% because Fox/Wolf is stronger than Banjo/Gruntilda, Seymour will be a huge anchor on Yuna, and the day match will make Fox/Wolf look slightly better than normal.

This will be another match where one team does not get a rivalry boost or a deboost, while the other team gets deboosted because the rivalry sucks. It's similar to the Luigi/Waluigi match, so it'll be interesting how a similar match will play out.

Luster Soldier's Bracket: Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O'Donnell
Luster Soldier's Prediction: Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O'Donnell - 61.20%



Crew Consensus: Everyone is going with the Star Fox rivalry
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dante you motherf#(*&%
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I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN
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Dante master of lowballing
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thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny
I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris
#350 | -LusterSoldier- | message detail | filter
Nobody below 58%? That's a little surprising as there are some Oracle predictions under 58%. But man, after my prediction, Kleenex is the next user below me, giving me quite a bit of room to score a point on the Accuracy Challenge (which the Guest needs to get on the board for).
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