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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 7

transience | Posted 3/8/2010 12:00:48 AM | message detail | filter | #101
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:02:36 AM | message detail | filter | #102
well that blows
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transience | Posted 3/8/2010 12:03:39 AM | message detail | filter | #103
argh I am so mad Dante blew it now, I could have a shot at money if Missingno dies
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:04:27 AM | message detail | filter | #104
Well, at least this makes Squall look a lot better!

...Sora vs. Kefka in a night match?
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transience | Posted 3/8/2010 12:05:08 AM | message detail | filter | #105
Sora will come back a bit. he sucks early. this probably ends 55/45.

that said, everything makes a lot more sense stat-wise with this result.
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transience | Posted 3/8/2010 12:05:57 AM | message detail | filter | #106
speaking of which, we need some Leonstats!
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transience | Posted 3/8/2010 12:11:01 AM | message detail | filter | #107
so do we still feel like Charizard can compete with Bowser?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:12:58 AM | message detail | filter | #108

From: transience | #107
so do we still feel like Charizard can compete with Bowser?


After Weegi got 65% on the Cube, Charizard will need a massive performance against the Block to make me think he's got a shot at that one.

And I still take Sora > Kratos
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:13:08 AM | message detail | filter | #109
Yes. Well, hopefully no, because this all being Bowser being strong means that the CTDS boost happened after all, but probably yes.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:13:54 AM | message detail | filter | #110
And Charizard does not need a massive performance on L-Block. L-Block >>> WCC.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:14:32 AM | message detail | filter | #111

From: red sox 777 | #110
And Charizard does not need a massive performance on L-Block. L-Block >>> WCC.


Man, after the crappy performances by L-Block the last two rounds, I don't believe the Block is that much stronger.

The Boss vs. Isaac: Who wins?
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/8/2010 12:17:42 AM | message detail | filter | #112
In honour of me getting 2/3 crew points so far, I think it's only fair that I get Mario/Mega Man next round!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:18:26 AM | message detail | filter | #113
Isaac. And L-Block got about 1% lower than Zero did against HK- that's quite good. Granted, this is a day match and L is a night character, so Charizard has a major day/night advantage, but he'll have a smaller day/night advantage against Bowser next round too and he'll have HG/SS.

Charizard just needs to get 55% to keep his chances alive.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:20:21 AM | message detail | filter | #114
I figured you'd say Isaac.

And L-Block did worse against HK-47 than pre-KHII Sora, and that was probably when HK-47 was his most popular. That was not a great performance.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 12:21:32 AM | message detail | filter | #115
If Charizard can clear 60%, then he's still a viable pick. Otherwise...yeah.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:23:45 AM | message detail | filter | #116
Well, if you figure Sora has fallen all the way to his pre-KH2 levels, then Charizard just needs to match Bowser's percentage in this match in that case. He'll have HG/SS to cancel out the small factors that make it a flawed comparison (day/night, etc.) Depends on how much you think a game releasing on the day of the match will do.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:24:15 AM | message detail | filter | #117
And I never said Charizard had to match Luigi. I'm just saying he has to clobber L-Block pretty good. 55% ain't gonna convince me he can beat Bowser because I ain't takin' L-Block over Sora either, not even this Sora.

And 20 minute stats, since tranny asked for them!

Heart Division Upper Half

Bowser Koopa – 50.00%
Sora – 44.10%
Kefka Palazzo – 38.32%
Frog – 36.78%
Midna – 32.07%
Arthas Menethil – 30.22%
Laharl – 28.44%
Neku Sakuraba – 24.85%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:24:47 AM | message detail | filter | #118
Well, if you figure Sora has fallen all the way to his pre-KH2 levels,

Why would you figure this?
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:25:08 AM | message detail | filter | #119
Oh, 55% wouldn't make him the favorite, just viable. Favorite status would require.....60%+ at least.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:25:45 AM | message detail | filter | #120
I don't even think 55% makes him viable. I think the Block is pretty much worthless this year.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:26:29 AM | message detail | filter | #121
Why would you figure this?

Because right now he looks like he'd be hard pressed to break 54% on Frog and Kefka at night!
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:26:59 AM | message detail | filter | #122
Oh, and if the 'Zard gets 55% on the Block, that would make Isaac pretty competitive with Frog and Kefka if Charizard beat Bowser. He needs to do better than that.

Or this 12 hour format needs to stop screwin' up my stats!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:29:12 AM | message detail | filter | #123
I have no problem with Isaac being competitive with Frog. We've had absolutely NOTHING in the way of a good read on him. The match that tells me the most about him, before L-Block, after 6 years, is honestly that Samus match where he stood up to SFF like a champ and scored 25%. Basically, it's a bad idea to extrapolate through unknowns.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:30:14 AM | message detail | filter | #124
Man, you and your Isaac hype!
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transience | Posted 3/8/2010 12:32:36 AM | message detail | filter | #125
Bowser droppin' good. this might end up at like 52-48.

I still don't trust L-Block to be a solid barometer. Charizard could double L and I'd still call the Bowser match a tossup; Charizard could win with 52% and I'd say that Bowser isn't a total lock. I'm picking Bowser for next round because he already beat Mewtwo in a down year with Toad in the poll, but with the way Pokemon has exploded over the years, who knows.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:37:58 AM | message detail | filter | #126
Eh, I don't think it'll end 52-48. Bowser should hit Sora pretty good with the Euro vote, and the morning vote will be a wash. This should finish around 54/46, I think.
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Lopen | Posted 3/8/2010 1:42:14 AM | message detail | filter | #127
Looks like Lopen wins this one, "guest clan." And what a sweet way to retake the lead, by taking out the head honcho himself

Ha ha ha ha...
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Shredderhart4 | Posted 3/8/2010 1:47:16 AM | message detail | filter | #128
Don't think you've seen the last of me, Lopen! I'll be back!

I always come back!
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/8/2010 2:29:47 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #129
Mario 74.1% 38401
Ike 25.9% 13420
TOTAL VOTES 51821

Mega Man 72.15% 50583
Ryu Hayabusa 27.85% 19529
TOTAL VOTES 70112


Crew Predictions - 84/98

What Happened: Mario wrecks Ike and MM does the same to Ryu H.

Why it Happened: SFF + Mario being a ton stronger in the first match. Pic advantage + MM being a beast this contest for the second match,

What will Happen: Well, at least MM is looking real good going into the match against FREAKIN MARIO



Crew Prediction Challenge - points

Kleenex - 90
Moltar - 90
Red Sox - 88
Ngamer - 88
Tran - 88
Guest - 84
Lopen - 84



Crew Accuracy Challenge - GfK gets the point for Mario and BT gets the point for MM

Guest - 19.5 (Bio: 2.5, CM: 2, Marsman: 1, FF999: 3, vcharon: 1, Luis: 1, GfK: 2, War: 1, Turtle: 2, Smashy: 1, Ngirl: 1, Luster: 1, Curt: 1)
Ngamer - 19
Moltar - 18.5
Lopen - 14
Tran - 12
Red Sox - 10
Kleenex - 7
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Moltar Status: Prediction: Bowser > Sora (126/152)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 2:49:54 AM | message detail | filter | #130
Aw yeah, Guest Clan at the top of the Accuracy Challenge! We'll win at least one of these!
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 7:16:37 AM | message detail | filter | #131
The gurus had Sora in the bracket but they picked Bowser.I wonder what the percentage will be?
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 3/8/2010 8:30:49 AM | message detail | filter | #132
Grr. I knew I should've signed up for this match. I would've won (or come close).
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voltch | Posted 3/8/2010 11:06:21 AM | message detail | filter | #133
Booya, go guests take advantage of the crew curse.
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/8/2010 11:11:03 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #134
Heart Division: Round 3 - Match 104 – (3) L-Block vs. (7) Charizard

Moltar’s Analysis

L-Block
Round 1 - 63.89% vs. HK-47
Round 2 - 60.45% vs. Isaac

Another meh showing from L

Charizard
Round 1 - 64.25% vs. Duke
Round 2 - 54.49% vs. Kratos

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Cube and L aren’t cool anymore. They’re lucky I don’t spit in their non-existent faces. L has 2 meh showing against characters who appear to be high fodder. Charizard rocked a low-midcarder in Duke and a solid midcarder in Kratos. Charizard definitely looks stronger going into the match. Hell, I would take Kratos to beat L here (and did in my dead bracket)!

Combine that with the fact that Luigi just destroyed Cube a few days ago, and this is just not looking good for L. L is stronger than Cube but Charizard is probably right below Luigi. Plus kiddies are going to side with the Pokemon over the Tetris piece. This should still be a fairly easy victory for the fire dragon.

Apparently 60% is the magic number for Charizard to look good going into the match with Bowser. Well, let’s see how you like this!

Moltar’s Bracket: Kratos > L-Block (whoops)

Moltar’s Prediction: L-Block: 41% - Charizard: 59%



Lopen’s Analysis

L-Block just hasn't really looked very good. After seeing WCC fall so hard, you've gotta figure the old jokes are out of steam. MissingNo is new and exciting apparently (or as KP will scream, "legit") so he lives, but the old guys do not. Charizard beats L-Block probably a bit easier than he did Kratos. Thinking somewhere to the tune of 56%. Let's go with that.

Don't think you can take much from this match no matter what happens as it relates to Charizard's chances next round, though. Unless L wins, of course, which I won't entirely rule out given jokes are crazy.

Lopen's prediction:
Charizard with 56.56%



Transience’s Analysis

This is a big match in that it will tell us where L-Block stands. I have absolutely no idea if L-Block is a character that works like a normal character in a 1v1, but I do know this: L only got 60% on Isaac. Isaac lost to Lucario. Lucario isn't even in Charizard's league. Charizard *should* win this handily.

But by how much? How legit is Charizard? Well, legit enough to beat Kratos. Legit enough to have a kickass day vote. Charizard's probably strong enough to pull at least 55% on L-Block.

Two things to note here: one, I don't think L-Block is a transitive character; that is, I don't think you can look at how it performed against other characters and then extrapolate that to mean that he'll get x percent against Charizard. L just isn't linear like that. Because of that, I don't think you can accurately predict this match as far as percents go. And two, I would take Sora to beat Kratos and Bowser just beat Sora, so a big Charizard performance is needed to make me think he's on even ground with Bowser in round 4.

You know, this is a pretty awesome division. Charizard, Kratos, Sora, Bowser, and L-Block. Great setup by Allen here, one of the few we have that's good.

transience's prediction: Charizard with 57.29%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Quickie w/ Ng: Certainly not worried about this result after seeing Luigi hang 65 on WCC. This should be more competitive, but between the Pokemon ASV and the new game next week, Zard should have no trouble scoring an Ulti blowout.

Ngamer Says: Charizard > L-Block, 57.31%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/8/2010 11:11:20 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #135
Kleenex’s Analysis

Charizard sux. I'm still not convinced that Charizard's the beast that some people are making him out to be. Yes, he beat Kratos, but it wasn't by a devestating amount, and after Kratos's performance on Tails, it's questionable how much of an accomplishment that is.

That aside, I feel like L and 'zard are probably pretty close in strength, with maybe a slight edge to Charizard. If this were a night match, I think I'd probably bite on the upset(?) here. But it's a day match, and Pokemon has show itself to be disgusting when that ASV hits, so even if L does manage to pull ahead in the first two hours, any lead is going to be erased pretty quickly.

Bracket: Kratos
Favorites: L-Block
Prediction: Charizard with 51.91%



Red Sox’s Analysis

Charizard has impressed this contest, with 64% against Duke Nukem at night and then 54.5% against Kratos during the day. Those are very solid performances, and they put him in contention to win this division. They do not, however, make him a lock over L-Block- a big favorite, yes, but not quite a lock. L is probably a bit stronger than Kratos, but then, this is a day match which hurts him, especially against a character with a great day vote like Charizard. It's also the sprite round- I'm not sure if this helps Charizard or not.

Last year, we saw that L was about equal to Ryu in round 1, so that might be a good estimate of his strength. In that case, even if Charizard only gets like 53% here, the winner of Sora/Bowser should watch out, especially Bowser, since the division final will be a day match. Charizard will have the HG/SS release to help him there, but not here against L.

Prediction: Charizard with 54.30%
Upset Potential: 15%
Upper Bound: Charizard with 60%
Lower Bound: L-Block with 52%



Crew Consensus: Charizard is shaped like a Pokemon to kick L-Block’s ass
GrapefruitKing | Posted 3/8/2010 11:16:38 AM | message detail | filter | #136
EMERGENCY GUEST ANALYSIS

L-Block looked pretty pathetic so far
Zard won't beat Bowser but he'll at least impress today


GrapefruitKing's prediction:
Charizard with 58.69%


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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 11:31:22 AM | message detail | filter | #137
Last year, we saw that L was about equal to Ryu in round 1, so that might be a good estimate of his strength.

Yeah, and Cube was equal to Tidus in round 1 last year, and got 43.95% on Mega Man, too!

I'm with tranny. I don't think simple extrapolation works with Cube and Block, and if anything, they're weaker than 2008.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 11:32:20 AM | message detail | filter | #138
LEGIT

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Lopen | Posted 3/8/2010 11:40:42 AM | message detail | filter | #139
Knew you wouldn't fail me!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 11:59:10 AM | message detail | filter | #140
Yeah, I went too low here. Forgot to consider the day match for as much as it's really worth.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
OrangeKidJosh | Posted 3/8/2010 12:08:16 PM | message detail | filter | #141
Kleenex must have picked bulbasaur as a kid
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 12:12:50 PM | message detail | filter | #142
Woo Moltar

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:19:16 PM | message detail | filter | #143
boy i hate them pokemans
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 12:19:35 PM | message detail | filter | #144
I couldn't tell

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:22:01 PM | message detail | filter | #145
actually, edit:

boy i hate them non-pikachu pokemans
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 12:22:40 PM | message detail | filter | #146
wait what

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Lopen | Posted 3/8/2010 12:22:45 PM | message detail | filter | #147
Hellz yeah Pikachu
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/8/2010 12:23:21 PM | message detail | filter | #148
Lopen knows
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 12:23:31 PM | message detail | filter | #149
Squirtle and Blastoise are where it's at, guys. Forget the rest of these losers.

Well, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres are cool, too, in that order.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 12:23:47 PM | message detail | filter | #150
I would support a Blastoise rally!

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