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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 7

Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/7/2010 11:10:47 AM | message detail | filter | #001
Hello once again!

For those who are new here, the Contest Analysis Crew is a group of users who know how these Contests work. Our duty is to analyze each match and predict who will win each match and the percentages each character will get. Wish us luck, because we'll need it.

Anyway, Introduction time!

*On the morning of January 14th, three witches are sitting in a small room enjoying their Tea Party.*

Moltar: So, did you two hear? It’s that time of the year again.

Lopen: …Indeed, a new game is about to begin. What is the gameboard like this time?

Moltar: It’s back to 1-on-1, this time, with 128 characters! Sounds interesting, riiiiiiight? I can’t wait to determine the results using my magic!

Lopen: …Hmph, such a child you are, Moltar. Your magic means nothing. The results are determined by the voters.

Moltar: Hoh! So you want to challenge me again, Lopen? I’ll create all the results, and you won’t be able to explain them with voters! They will be so unpredictable that everyone will be forced to accept my magic! The number of votes I can create are endless! I am the Voting Witch, Master Moltar!

Lopen: …Very well, I, the Witch of Upsets, Lopen, accept your challenge. I don’t expect to be bored.

Tran: Hey you two! What are you talking about! Let me in! Let me in!

Moltar: It’s another game between Lopen and I. Will you be supporting me again, Tran?

Tran: Naaaah, I’m tired of you, Moltar. And I would never be on Lopen’s side! Therefore, I, the Witch of Locks, Transience, will make my own side!

Lopen: …Make your own side? I see you’re still a child too, Tran. At least you won’t make me bored though.

Tran: Hehe, I love you Lopen! You’re so <cute>!

Moltar: I want to invite someone in on this little game between us. Come forth, my finest servant, Ngamer.

Ngamer: Ngamer here, at your service, Master Moltar.

Moltar: Do you wish to participate in this game with us?

Ngamer: Very well, I, Ngamer, will join. Let me warn you though, I am pretty good and figuring out the true results, pukuku.

Lopen: …I see, now this is even more interesting. I shall bring a guest too. Kleenex, where are you?

Kleenex: I’m right here, Lopen!

Lopen: You will participate in this game as well. If you win, I’ll promote you to the rank of a Witch. You can be the Witch of Facts. *giggle*

Kleenex: <Good>. That would be an honor! I, the great detective, KleenexTissue, will do my best! My skills are first-rate!

Tran: Hey you two! I want to bring someone in too! Um…um…oh I know! I’ll bring in your teacher!

Moltar: My teacher? You don’t mean-

Tran: Hey red sox, get out here!

Red Sox: Yes, Transience?

Tran: You’re also going to join our game! I want you to do your best and beat your student.

Red Sox: Is that alright with you, Moltar?

Moltar: That fine with me! The more the merrier! I’ll make all of you submit to my voting magic!

Red Sox: Very well, I, Red Sox, will also join the game. It’ll be more productive than spending time with and constantly getting teased by G-

Moltar: Oh, there’s more thing. There will be more people joining us. Arise, Guests!

Lopen: …The Guests? They aren’t exactly…the brightest, you know.

Tran: Yeah! What’s up with that? They’re as dumb as Goats!

Moltar: I think you two will be surprised. They can be really clever sometimes! One guest will also participate in each match of our game.

Moltar: Anyway, I hope everyone is ready! I’ve already made a certain man lose the will to fight against me, and now it’s your turn! Prepare to submit to my Endless Voting magic, Readerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*glass breaks*
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/7/2010 11:11:10 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #002
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Sora/Bowser - LeonhartFour
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Cloud/Falcon - Luster Soldier
Leon/Ryu - Biolizard

Snake/Pikachu - paulg
Auron/Squall - LeonhartFour

Sephiroth/Missingno - War
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/7/2010 11:14:23 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #003
Mushroom Division: Round 3 - Match 102 – (3) Mega Man vs. (7) Ryu Hayabusa

Moltar’s Analysis

Mega Man
Round 1 - 63.04% vs. Cid
Round 2 - 61.66% vs. Zack

ZackFAQs dead

Ryu H.
Round 1 - 61.79% vs. Crash
Round 2 - 52.56% vs. Master Chief

lol MC

Gotta give Ryu props for beating MC, especially after his showing against Crash. However, he’s hit a brick wall now. Mega Man has been beasting this Contest, and even sprite MMX held up against Link. MM’s sprite should crush Ryu’s…whatever that is…right here.

I’d also take both Cid and Zack over Ryu H, sooooooo

Moltar’s Bracket: MM > Ryu H.

Moltar’s Prediction: MM: 66% - Ryu H.: 34%



Lopen’s Analysis

Fun Fact: I have Master Chief winning here.
Fun Fact 2: I gave up on that after seeing round 1.

I think Hayabusa ends up looking good here. Real good. Chief was no doubt weaker than usual this year, but beating MC is still Hayabusa's greatest feat. Will it put the match in doubt? Not a chance. But I think it'll be cool to see Hayabusa outdo his performance from Zero from way back when on Mega Man here. Of course, this'll make people call for Mega Man's head on a platter. Not because they want an Extra Life, but because people are ADD like that.

Lopen's prediction:
Mega Man with 61.59%



Transience’s Analysis

Hahaha, Ryu Hayabusa in the sprite round. That's a half step away from the Solid Snake pics we've had to suffer through for the last seven years.

Mega Man was going to put a hurting on Hayabusa before, but now it's just going to be painful. Hayabusa always finds a way to end up bombing before the contest is over and this time it will be at the hands of the Blue Bomber.

Bring on Sora/Bowser!

transience's prediction: Mega Man with 64.55%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Quickie w/ Ng: The MM series has been on roids, this is Mega Man's best picture ever, and Ryu... is sporting a look that earned 6% of the vote in its last poll. A recipe for a doubling if I ever saw one!

Ngamer Says: Mega Man > Ryu H, 66.74%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Time for the 6th boring match in a row. This the (hopefully) the last in that series, but that doesn't make it any better. Ryu's pretty tough, but he's never been at Mega Man level and still isn't. This is compounded by the fact that he has a completely terrible picture up against some classic Mega Man sprite. Any overperformance that Ryu could have pulled here is completely negated by this, so it's just another round 3 snoozefest. Let's go Sora/Bower.

Bracket: Mega Man
Favorites: Mega Man
Prediction: Mega Man with 60.05%



Red Sox’s Analysis

Here's another fairly boring match, though it will tell us a good deal more information than Mario vs. Ike. Hayabusa was about equal to Zero last year, who's probably worth over 40% on Megaman. Yet, this is the sprite round and Megaman has a major picture advantage here, so MM will probably go well over 60%. Further, Hayabusa probably isn't on Zero's level anymore, or was never on Zero's level.

Prediction: Megaman with 64.00%
Upset Potential: 0%
Upper Bound: Megaman with 69%
Lower Bound: Megaman with 59%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 3/7/2010 11:14:46 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #004
Guest’s Analysis - Black Turtle

Mega Man

Aww yeah Blue Bomber kicking all kinds of ass! Watch out Mario!

Ryu Hayabusa

He's overdue for his second round collapse this year

Analysis:

A battle of the faces of the best and third best NES platforming series, this seemingly boring match could have far reaching implications. With the way Mega Man and his cast-mates have been performing so far this year, it seems as though Mega Man > Mario is no longer a pipe dream, but is actually an (amazing) potential upset. A lot of people are lowballing Mega Man here, thinking mid-high 60's is where he'll land, but this is silly for several reasons. First of all, Snake had no trouble breaking 73% on Hayabusa in the 4-ways, and with Snake looking like he's somewhat back to earth, Mega Man would probably get 47-48% on Snake now. Secondly, we have sprite round Hayabusa for (I believe) the first time, and it's no secret that most of his strength comes from his recent 3-D showings. Add that to the fact that Mega Man always seems to impress in the sprite round (leading Samus with Yoshi for over an hour!) and the fact that Mega Man 10 was released on Wii last week.

We'll also get our first taste of non-loleuropefail day match Mega Man, which unfortunately doesn't carry over to round 4. This should be a massive overperformance that will be sounding the alarm bells for round 4. Mega Man is more likely to break 75% than he is to go under 70%. And what a glorious sight it will be!

TuRtLe's Prediction: Mega Man with 76.43%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Mega Man > Hayabusa
TuRtLe's Vote: WAR MEGA MAN!



Crew Consensus: Mega Buster to Ryu Hayabusa’s face
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/7/2010 11:22:51 AM | message detail | filter | #005

From: Master Moltar | #003
Fun Fact: I have Master Chief winning here.


Lopen = Ed Bellis?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 11:25:40 AM | message detail | filter | #006
Ed Bellis would have Master Chief>Zack for this round!

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Lopen | Posted 3/7/2010 11:32:50 AM | message detail | filter | #007
Ed Bellis is a poseur. I'm the original master of bad upsets!

... also damn I keep forgetting it's the sprite round in these analyses.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 12:06:58 PM | message detail | filter | #008
Hey there Black Turtle! Not bad!

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Lopen | Posted 3/7/2010 12:08:35 PM | message detail | filter | #009
If I'd remembered it was the damn sprite round I probably would've been the only other one in contention for a point, here, though I wouldn't have gone quite that high considering Ryu's pic isn't terrible
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2010 12:12:07 PM | message detail | filter | #010
We'll also get our first taste of non-loleuropefail day match Mega Man, which unfortunately doesn't carry over to round 4. This should be a massive overperformance that will be sounding the alarm bells for round 4. Mega Man is more likely to break 75% than he is to go under 70%. And what a glorious sight it will be!

Glorious indeed!
GrapefruitKing | Posted 3/7/2010 12:13:46 PM | message detail | filter | #011
hey, noice, I get accuracy point for Mario/Ike
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 1:19:34 PM | message detail | filter | #012
Holy crap.

Mega Man > Mario
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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 3:02:44 PM | message detail | filter | #013
yeah, I almost went to 70% because of this picture. this is maybe worse than sprite Snake.

Mega Man > Mario is even more of a pipe dream than Samus > Mario at this point
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 3:03:43 PM | message detail | filter | #014
Tell that to the stats topic !
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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 3:06:07 PM | message detail | filter | #015
don't wanna read the stats topic right now
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2010 3:07:45 PM | message detail | filter | #016
We need something to look forward to in round 4 because there aren't any other potentially interesting matches left there!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 3:39:11 PM | message detail | filter | #017
Squall/Snake !
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2010 3:40:01 PM | message detail | filter | #018
Man, not even I believe Squall has a chance at winning that one!

...Unless he goes 57-60%+ on Auron, that is! No SFF there, no sir!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/7/2010 3:40:31 PM | message detail | filter | #019
Zelda Wii starring Samus, Samus > Mario aw yeah
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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 3:41:49 PM | message detail | filter | #020
yeah, I remember people talking up Squall > Snake because of the Tidus beatdown!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2010 3:45:38 PM | message detail | filter | #021
Plus, this was before we realized what kind of a monster Snake was going to be in 2006! The only character he faced before Squall was Soma Cruz, after all.

Squall 2006 > Snake 2005 I will go to the grave believing this
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:03:52 PM | message detail | filter | #022
...did anyone really think that MM could beat Mario nowadays?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:05:20 PM | message detail | filter | #023

From: transience | #013
yeah, I almost went to 70% because of this picture. this is maybe worse than sprite Snake.

Mega Man > Mario is even more of a pipe dream than Samus > Mario at this point


this is the worst revisionist post-match damage control I have seen in a long time

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:07:04 PM | message detail | filter | #024
Actually, wait, I just noticed that your second line had Samus>Mario as some sort of pipe dream instead of the expected result like it was. Just a terrible post all-around.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:08:45 PM | message detail | filter | #025
go away
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:09:35 PM | message detail | filter | #026
http://www.oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k5&type=match&match=57

Enjoy.
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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 4:10:23 PM | message detail | filter | #027
KP what are you even talking about
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2010 4:13:18 PM | message detail | filter | #028
Seeing Lopen with a #1 Oracle pick...I never know what to think about that, but it definitely means a match was pretty awesome.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:13:26 PM | message detail | filter | #029
Well for one, you said that this pic is worse for Hayabusa than Solid **** is for Snake. Really? Do I need to bring up Solid **** pictures? This pic is about 10x better than that. Anything is 10x better than that.

Second, I'm surprised anyone outside of Ulti actually calls Samus>Mario a pipe dream. That was *not* an obvious match, no matter what the outcome was. Anyone calling it so is just employing revisionist history.

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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 4:14:12 PM | message detail | filter | #030
I mean Samus > Mario now you sillyhead

this picture is about as bad for Hayabusa as Snake's NES picture is for him.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:15:51 PM | message detail | filter | #031
Anyone who took Samus to win should not be calling Mario > Samus obvious! And most people who took Mario to win shouldn't be calling it obvious either, since very few people were actually completely confident in Mario back then.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:16:17 PM | message detail | filter | #032
I don't think I've ever seen anyone bring up Samus>Mario in a direct match since the original happened. Indirectly, maybe.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=53

You're really carrying the current pic to that? The current pic is actually decent. He's holding a sword, he looks like a ninja.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:16:25 PM | message detail | filter | #033
*comparing

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:16:59 PM | message detail | filter | #034
Oh, Mario/Samus now. Well carry on then, but MM > Mario has a way higher chance of happening now than Samus > Mario.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2010 4:18:35 PM | message detail | filter | #035
Hayabusa's a lot more dependent on his image than Snake is, honestly. If he doesn't look like uber-cool ninja, he's going to suffer.

But I'm okay with that, because it puts Yuna above Master Chief in the stats three years after he doubled her! Kekekekekeke
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:18:44 PM | message detail | filter | #036
I'll have you know that I took Mario in that match and was never worried about it.

Granted, I had no knowledge of the any kind of statistics at that point, but still!
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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 4:18:46 PM | message detail | filter | #037
I'd say that they're about equally unrecognizable to people who only know the modern games, yeah. Snake's is a little worse but he's got far more name recognition than Hayabusa does.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:20:33 PM | message detail | filter | #038
Also.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=53

GBC sprite. Not NES.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:20:35 PM | message detail | filter | #039
Snake's is a *lot* worse. Let's not mince words. Hayabusa gets by on being a cool ninja, and his pic looks like a cool ninja. It's not nearly as bad as you people are making it out to be. However much it's hurting him, it's going to be less than whatever SFF Mario laid down on Ike.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:21:05 PM | message detail | filter | #040
NES sprite is only marginally better.

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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 4:24:48 PM | message detail | filter | #041
so you think Mega Man has a shot at Mario?

I'll go with 60%+. and Mega Man is my favourite character in this thing.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:26:27 PM | message detail | filter | #042
60% would be pretty incredible. I'd go with more like 51-52% for Mario......meaning a Megaman upset isn't out of the question.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:27:45 PM | message detail | filter | #043
60% is probably a bit extreme. I think I'll probably end up going with 55-56 or so.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:27:45 PM | message detail | filter | #044
Uh, there's a good number of people who think he has a shot at Mario. Actually, there seem to be two camps: the first camp, that think the match is debatable but Mario is the favorite, and the second camp, which just repeat IT'S FREAKING MARIO nauseum. If Mario wins, the second camp will go "I told you so!", as if it was entirely obvious when it...wasn't, at all. If Mario loses, they will shrug and downplay the result, going "No one could have seen that coming!"

So what I think I'm trying to say is I'll see you all for Sora/Bowser.

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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 4:27:56 PM | message detail | filter | #045
wow, people are that confident in Mega Man?

against Mario? this isn't a straight up strength match, the KING OF SFF is going to have his way with Mega Man. that's why I brought up Samus.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:28:26 PM | message detail | filter | #046
Good, you can leave and go be wrong somewhere else.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:28:29 PM | message detail | filter | #047

From: transience | #045
wow, people are that confident in Mega Man?

against Mario? this isn't a straight up strength match, the KING OF SFF is going to have his way with Mega Man. that's why I brought up Samus.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3279

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/7/2010 4:28:57 PM | message detail | filter | #048

From: KleenexTissue50 | #046
Good, you can leave and go be wrong somewhere else.


Kleenex’s Analysis
Prediction: Mega Man with 60.05%


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transience | Posted 3/7/2010 4:29:07 PM | message detail | filter | #049
"it's freaking Mario" is all that's needed here, because it's Mega Man. unless you're Link, I'm not giving a Nintendo character a shot at Mario, and Mega Man is pretty much Nintendo. I learned that lesson after I backed Samus in 2005.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/7/2010 4:29:30 PM | message detail | filter | #050
lol KP
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