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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 6
L went from 41% on Kirby to 53%. I like blaming LFF as much as the next guy but that's quite a jump. --- Mustache...and Green... |
sorry,
I just can't believe a glitch is more legitimately way more popular
than Pikachu or Mewtwo or any other Pokemon. that just doesn't make
sense to me. it's like saying that the Midgar Zolom is way more popular than Cloud or Sephiroth. --- xyzzy |
I'm
not saying there isn't any joke power at all. The additional joke power
puts it over the rest. I'm just saying that there's enough people who
legitimately like the thing that there will be people who defect to
Sephiroth in that match, but we'll see. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
L-Block had the same argument you know -- there are people that legitimately like Tetris. thing is, Pokemon is way more popular than Tetris here, so Missingno is strong in ways L-Block could never be. this isn't another L-Block so much as it's something that out-L-Blocks L-Block. --- xyzzy |
Mudkip
had about the same round 1 strength as L-Block, but couldn't push up to
the next level (even with huge LFF advantages). The parallel to
Missingno to me isn't L-Block, it's Mudkip or Bidoof. --- Mustache...and Green... |
L-Block had the same argument you know -- there are people that legitimately like Tetris. Ehhh, I still think Missingno's not in the same boat as that, but we'll see. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
I don't see this as a "are you for Missingno or against him" vote. I see this as a straight up or down vote on Sephiroth.
Now that might seem like an easy win for Sephiroth, but I don't think
it is. In a normal poll, you're not voting yes or no to Sephiroth, to
vote against him you have to vote for another character. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
To
expand on that a bit, imagine a nationwide straight up or down vote on
the Democratic Party. It will lose! But put the Democratic Party in a
poll with any other party in the US right now (not sure about the GOP,
but you get the picture), and it will win. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
If there's a "Do you like Sephiroth" poll I'd bet "yes" clears 80%. Remember this? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2020 44% thought he was the greatest villain ever and that's after his awful performances in the Villain Contest. Or there's this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1446 Yes, he gets more hate now (huzzah!) and he'd do worse. But there's a reason the guy is the third strongest character on the site. If this is a referendum on Sephiroth he wins easily. --- Mustache...and Green... |
The
first poll was right after the villains contest.The 2nd well the 2
obvious choices are Kefka and Sephiroth anyway and even I that have
played all FF games I prefer these 2. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I think the camp warfare is being overblown. I've gotta figure some people were like me and just uh... stopped caring so much. Though I must admit I threw Yoshi a vote today after seeing MissingNo go from 50-50 to 59-41 in one update and maintain it for like three updates then go back to 50-50. "Come on." Bacon will no doubt deny it but I'm sure MissingNo is cheating its ass off. Though Yoshi being down like 1500 makes me wonder if he didn't win legit even without that. Well, Kefka stuffed like 2000 so could happen. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
The updates where Missingno went nuts correspond exactly to when someone stickied a rally topic on LueLinks. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
And uh, Missingno is legitimate. Yeah he gets rallied some but you don't beat Missingno and Yoshi on rally power alone. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
And when, pray tell, was that? --- Mustache...and Green... |
Just for the record, I apologize in advance for the length of my analysis. --- :) |
What?
The topic stickied? When Yoshi had a 55 vote lead...which then turned
into a 24 vote lead for Missingno in the next update. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
In fact, opening post of the topic: From: Space Medafighter X | Posted: 3/3/2010 08:34:30 AM | Filter | Message Detail | Quote http://www.gamefaqs.com/ Yoshi 50.15% 9960 Missingno 49.85% 9901 1 and a half minutes left in that update. Missingno cuts 10 or so. Update after that, Missingno goes berserk. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
That was indeed Missingno's best 15 minute update by a little, but it's hardly a blip on the overall scheme of things. Time | Yoshi | Missingno 01:00 | 50.99% | 49.01% 02:00 | 49.56% | 50.44% 03:00 | 47.50% | 52.50% 04:00 | 47.25% | 52.75% 05:00 | 49.38% | 50.62% 06:00 | 49.97% | 50.03% 07:00 | 46.86% | 53.14% 08:00 | 47.89% | 52.11% 09:00 | 47.31% | 52.69% I would venture to guess that the ASV was much more decisive than a LL topic. --- Mustache...and Green... |
I was responding to Lopen going OMG MISSINGNO KILLED AN UPDATE HE'S TOTALLY CHEATING --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
Well
2-3 looks out of place, yeah, and you can attribute it to the LL topic.
Since 3 it's just been a normal ASV, with the caveat that Missingno did
very well on the coasts and not so well in the interior of the country. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
Oh, okay. I'm a bit peeved at the "Missingno has unlimited rallying power" thing at the moment, my mistake. --- Mustache...and Green... |
Not
unlimited. A few thousand, he can pull against Sephiroth. It won't
matter if Seph wins 60-40 or even 55-45, but if it's much closer than
that, watch out. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
I
don't know if I can contribute anything since I'm a guest, but I'm
looking forward to this match. FFVII is growing weaker over the years
(the boost I expected from the re-release didn't happen). Sephy has
been king of first update blunders for a while. I wonder how badly
Missingno will win in the first hour until things cool. --- Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 3910-0618-8501 |
I really don't think Missingno has any shot whatsoever at beating Sephiroth. Below a 1% at the moment. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
Feel free to contribute! And while I agree with your points, I just don't think it's enough. Missingno probably ends up overperforming a good deal, but outright winning? Can't see it. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
I didn't say it would win, but I do think it will have a large advantage during the first hour. --- Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 3910-0618-8501 |
Meh.
Don't really think linking on LL, a site spawned by GameFAQs, would
affect that much. I just think any stuffer knows how to analyze trends
to make it look "legitimate" I'm not complaining-- don't really care. Just saying it how I see it. MissingNo has had generally a lot more variance in his vote intake-- don't really care what Bacon says, either. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Well, let me say my own bit here. Missingno is considered to be a threat to this year's bracket. L-Block was the only joke character to have won back in 2007. He shockingly beat beat Crono and will beat Yoshi, too. So far, he has an OK status in this bracket. However, his next opponent is Sephiroth. And sadly, FFIV has a lot more supporters than Pokemon. Sephiroth, from what another user said a while back, is considered to be the third strongest character in this bracket. The only two people who would beat Sephiroth in a one on one match are Link and Cloud. (I'm not counting the four-way match with Cloud/Snake/Sephiroth/Kirby). Snake may beat him too, that is if unless Missingno is out of the bracket. To me, Missingno will not beat Sephiroth. He might get an early lead, but knowing FFIV, Sephiroth will eventually beat Missingo in the night vote. Maybe not by much, but Sephiroth has a really good chance of beating Missingno. --- BFC: 2492-6375-2047 (Sonic) |
MissingNo has had generally a lot more variance in his vote intake-- don't really care what Bacon says, either. Fortunately, I have the means to check this easily. Standard deviation of Yoshi's vote intake over a 15 minute window: 157.35 The same for Missingno: 141.74 --- Mustache...and Green... |
Lopen, most people on LL barely ever visit GameFAQs! --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
From: RPGuy96 | #330 15 isn't exactly fair considering most of the variance I saw was from update to update, with lows to cancel highs. But still kinda surprising I've gotta say. Admittedly I haven't gone over it with a comb. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Midgar Division: Round 2 - Match 95 – (14) Big Daddy vs. (6) Ness Moltar’s Analysis Big Daddy Round 1 - 61.75% vs. Soap Not bad Ness Round 1 - 64.81% vs. Geno Weird to see a decisive Ness victory Well this match is awful. Neither character really deserves to get to R3, but oh well. I have Ness in my bracket because…at least he’s got Smash/Nintendo support. However I’ve since realized that I’ve used that reasoning in every Ness match before and he usually ends up failing to get the job done. Big Daddy is fresh off of Bioshock 2 and stomped Soap. Shepard boosted big time from Mass Effect 2, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Big Daddy’s performance was due to a similar boost. Still…I don’t know what to make of Soap, but I’m guessing he’s weak. Geno isn’t any bastion of strength either, and Ness also stomped him. Soap vs. Geno…ugh Then again, Ness probably benefitted from some SFF too. Bleh, I’m going with Big Daddy. All the other MW characters ended up decent so that would make BD the stronger looking character going into the match. Plus the night favors Big Daddy. Besides, even if I’m wrong here, I get points in my bracket, so win-win! Moltar’s Bracket: Ness > Big Daddy Moltar’s Prediction: Big Daddy: 51% - Ness: 49% Lopen’s Analysis Well, after Big Daddy slaughtered Soap last round, my doubts in this match have been all but removed. Soap vs Geno who ya got? After seein CAPTAIN MACMILLAN do almost as well as Ocelot/Pkmn Trainer Red, I'm inclined to go with Soap pretty easily. Easily enough that Big Daddy wins this one with some breathing room. Lopen's prediction: Big Daddy with 55.05% Transience’s Analysis Bear with me for a minute while I run through some numbers. - most MW2 fans would agree that Soap is more popular than Price - Mega Man X got 66% on Price; Big Daddy got 62% on Soap Extrapolating this suggests that Big Daddy could compete with Mega Man X. I would never take Big Daddy here, but at the very least it suggests that Big Daddy got a very large boost from Bioshock 2. I think Mega Man X is kinda weak, but given how the other MM characters are doing this year, being competitive with Mega Man X is pretty impressive. It's certainly better than Ness. Ness vs. Red might be a decent match and Mega Man X put up 60% on him. Add to it that this is a night match and Ness has shown to be *terrible* overnight and Big Daddy deserves to be a favourite here. The only thing stopping me is, again, the picture - Ness is facing a disco ball tonight. Like Ryu/Dante, if Big Daddy loses I am blaming the picture. I have no idea how much that picture will affect him since I haven't really played Bioshock, but it's certainly not like the usual pictures I see for a Big Daddy. whatever ness sucks transience's prediction: Big Daddy with 56.45% Ngamer’s Analysis Quickie w/ Ng: Bioshock has already tumbled to 23rd on the FAQ listing; seems safe to say that BD's prime has come and gone. The Europe vote makes me hesitate, but nope, I can't bet against Smash Bros again after those moves Captain Falcon showed me. Ngamer Says: Ness > Big Daddy - 50.11% Kleenex’s Analysis Well, that was another disappointing match, but I'nm gonna stay positive here and look forward to Sephiroth skewering the glitch next round. On other news here's the match that'll put me as the sole Cloud bracket in the Guru contest! Wait...what? Dante lost? ...oh. Well, who cares about this stupid contest anyway. Bracket: Big Daddy Favorites: Ness Prediction: Big Daddy with 55.74% |
Red Sox’s Analysis This match has received a lot of debate, but has been overshadowed by matches between stronger opponents. I have Big Daddy, and I'm pretty comfortable with him winning this one. His 61% on Soap in round 1 was convincing, and should render him strong enough to deal with Ness, who is pretty weak. You'd think Ness would be stronger than he is given that he is in Smash and how dedicated the Earthbound fanbase is, but through the years he's shown that he is nothing higher than a low midcarder at best. Prediction: Big Daddy with 55.00% Upset Potential: 25% Upper Bound: Big Daddy with 63% Lower Bound: Ness with 54% Guest’s Analysis - nintendogirl aka NGirl’s Not A Bit Fangirlish Analysis Ness is the psychic, baseball bat wielding midget from a game that few people care about outside of Japan who got lucky enough to squeeze into the Smash Bros series. He’s never been a strong contender in the contests, hovering around and maybe slightly above the fodder line pretty much. Big Daddy is the beastly reccurring mini-boss of sorts from the BioShock series that is the perfect counter to the “kiddiness” of Nintendo and smash, his drill screwing through enemies and leaving them a bloody mess on the floor. To cover as many intangibles as possible, Who would win in a fight: Big Daddy does have a weakness to electricity, but it only stuns him rather than damaging him, so Ness would have to back up PK Lightning with some power fast and Big Daddy is incredibly damage resistant. Big Daddy is also incredibly fast when he charges and Ness won’t be able to control that. Once Big Daddy is in range, this is all over for Ness. I mean really, it’s a dude with a drill welded to his arm against a kid with a baseball match. No contest. Winner: Big Daddy Picture Factor: Ness looks like Ness, a little chubby kid with a baseball cap at a stupid angle. Who would want to vote for that? Big Daddy, while not having the best picture in the world, is a clear opposite to Ness, being dark and murky. There’s also the possibility of Big Daddy picking up joke votes for looking like a disco ball. Winner: Big Daddy Badass Factor: You know those whiners who always complain that “X is only for kiddies and 11 year olds and we should all vote for Y to prove we’re not virgins”. They aren’t gonna vote for the little kid, more easy votes for Big Daddy. Winner: Big Daddy Relevancy: Yes, at this point I am just looking to make as many categories as possible for Big Daddy to win. Suck it up. I’ve beaten it three times already, but BioShock 2 is still only 3 weeks old, which means it’s still in people’s minds. Winner: Big Daddy Western Boost Factor: Japan isn’t getting any more western and 2k is based in California. Winner: Big Daddy |
I
make that 5-0 for Big Daddy and I can’t think of anything else to give
him. When it comes to the actual numbers that matter, using Big Daddy’s
x-stat value from 2008 is an incredibly bad idea, because in the year
and a half since then, the BioShock series has sold 3 times what it had
done at that point, with the original game selling over a million in
the last year. Comparing first round performances, they both put up similar percentages in round 1, Ness with 64% on Geno, and Big Daddy 61% on Soap. I’d probably give that match to Soap, especially considering how Price put numbers similar to Red up against MMX, although that could still be my pokéfan side showing through. Macmillan didn’t look so hot against Chris after all. Using Big Daddy’s x-stat value from 2008 is an incredibly bad idea, because in the year and a half since then, the BioShock series has sold 3 times what it had done then and I think we’re in for a close one, but I genuinely do believe Big Daddy has what it takes to win this match without it looking like a danger. I will however, point to this bracket set-up as the greatest good LFF ever did. Without Andrew Ryan in Big Daddy’s vote-in he would have been in Missingno.’s position assuming Bacon did sort them by percentages as he said and I don’t see him performing to that level. I’ll end this analysis by simply and shamelessly plugging BioShock 1 & 2. They’re excellent games, dripping with atmosphere and really great gameplay to boot. The first one is my game of the generation so far and it’s definitely a must play game. NGirl’s Prediction: Big Daddy with 53.81% NGirl’s Bracket: Big Daddy NGirl’s Vote: Big Daddy Crew Consensus: Ness has a lone supporter, and Big Daddy has everyone else! |
Crap, one person with Ness. This isn't good. I hate Ness with a passion because of his matches. I never know what to do with that guy. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Ngamer rockin' the wishy-washy predictions again. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
phew, I'm glad I have Ness winning, 'cause the crew has just jynxed Big Daddy --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 20th Today's prediction: Missingno - 53.57% Status: Decent |
Big Daddy to beat Ness worse than he did Soap, more at 12 --- xyzzy |
*makes a birthday wish for a Big Daddy win* --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
I'm
cool with Ness and all, but I'm tired of predicting him wrong and made
it a point to not support him so much -- people might remember I had
Geno over him for a little bit. I'm gonna be pissed if Ness
actually wins this. I say this thinking Big Daddy's cool but have
barely played BS compared to days upon days of using Ness in
SSB/M...and probably a few hours in SSBB. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
While
I agree that BD has the advantage here. The logic people are using to
judge his strength is bogus. Anyone who has played both CoD:MW games
should know that Price vs Soap would look like Link vs Tingle. Why
people keep coming to the conclusion that all CoD characters = All
other CoD characters is beyond me. --- Mmmmmmmmmm Brains!! |
...Which one is Link...? --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Man,
if Big Daddy beats Ness worse than he did Soap, he'd give Tifa a fight!
I'd love to see that, though it obviously won't happen. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
Price
is Link. He is the most popular character of the entire CoD series.
Including the non MW games. Obviously not the exact same dude, but same
name + accent + face = close enough. In contrast Soap's appearance in
MW2 Actually reduced his BA factor. --- Mmmmmmmmmm Brains!! |
Meh.
I wasn't trying to imply Soap = Price-- more that as long as Price
wasn't total fodder I'd take someone else from the series to beat Geno
cause Geno sucks --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Which
sort of makes sense. But you have to keep in mind that the difference
in strength between Price and Soap could easily be like Mario and Geno.
It's not quite THAT dramatic, but there is a MUCH bigger difference
than a lot of people are taking into account here. --- Mmmmmmmmmm Brains!! |
Well honestly I have no idea what CoD character hierarchies are like-- so yeah I may have been a bit misinformed there. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
really?
I am pretty ignorant about the Modern Warfare series but I have always
heard that Soap is the guy most people identify as the main character. hmm... okay, Big Daddy only kinda wins --- xyzzy |
