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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 6

Ngamer64 | Posted 3/3/2010 11:01:22 AM | message detail | filter | #251
Uh oh!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 11:01:45 AM | message detail | filter | #252
god Crono, you suck

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transience | Posted 3/3/2010 11:02:43 AM | message detail | filter | #253
Crono would still beat Yoshi. Crono just isn't as good against jokes.

I will not count Missingno out of this until he has absolutely no chance.
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transience | Posted 3/3/2010 11:05:24 AM | message detail | filter | #254
that lead stayed at 40 votes for a long time. I feel pretty bad about this as a Yoshi supporter.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 11:06:47 AM | message detail | filter | #255
Crono would probably beat Yoshi, but by how much? 52%? 51%?

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transience | Posted 3/3/2010 11:07:35 AM | message detail | filter | #256
I dunno, Yoshi sucked last year so I could see him sucking again. maybe 55%? Crono's hard to pin down right now.
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ZFS | Posted 3/3/2010 11:13:25 AM | message detail | filter | #257
Ha, go Yoshi.

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marsman57 | Posted 3/3/2010 11:41:58 AM | message detail | filter | #258

From: transience | #256
I dunno, Yoshi sucked last year so I could see him sucking again. maybe 55%? Crono's hard to pin down right now.


Missingno didn't have any trouble pinning Crono
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 1:08:46 PM | message detail | filter | #259
lol Missingno

what a joke

...wait
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 1:11:37 PM | message detail | filter | #260

From: KamikazePotato | #249
Kratos>Charizard all over again!


Yoshi has brackets?

Really now.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 1:16:21 PM | message detail | filter | #261
Anyway, from first two hour impressions, Missingno still probably win this, but it's not the kind of performance it needs to make me feel confident about beating Sephiroth.
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transience | Posted 3/3/2010 1:19:19 PM | message detail | filter | #262
if Yoshi dominates the afterschool vote, then I'll feel good about it, but if not then Missingno will make a big comeback.

if Missingno wins, Sephiroth is screwed
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 1:21:16 PM | message detail | filter | #263
You know what would be more awesome?

Yoshi beating Missingno today, then getting Kirby-bandwagoned over Sephiroth and Tifa.

Contest redeemed.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 3/3/2010 1:27:11 PM | message detail | filter | #264
Kirby bandwagon'd Yoshi > Sephiroth and Tifa would be fantastic.

You know how a joke is basically 'everyone decides a random character to win the contest?' That would work with anyone, not just Missingno.

on-topic: whoever wins the ASV should win the match. Right now Yoshi's at 51%in North America-he should be in good shape with the school demographic.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 1:57:57 PM | message detail | filter | #265
Yeah, ok, this match just got stupid.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:00:44 PM | message detail | filter | #266
Amazing how in the course of half an hour we went from "haha, Crono's flat out pathetic!" to "yikes, Seph's in serious trouble!"

That being said...

Yikes, Seph's in serious trouble!

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:01:10 PM | message detail | filter | #267
No he isn't.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 3:02:12 PM | message detail | filter | #268
No, not really.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:23:19 PM | message detail | filter | #269
Well, I guess Miz won't get to capitalize on this Pokemon ASV. On the other hand Seph'll be destroyed in the early going, and I certainly like a joke's chances better in a match with 20k fewer votes...

Got to disagree with you guys- if he can win here, Mizno's trouble for anyone in a 12 hour setting.

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transients | Posted 3/3/2010 3:25:28 PM | message detail | filter | #270
yeah, Seph is screwed here.
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:25:58 PM | message detail | filter | #271
...I think this'll be the first time I've ever voted for Seph.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:34:02 PM | message detail | filter | #272
You guys need to BELIEVE
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:34:41 PM | message detail | filter | #273
Missingno has now lost the board vote to both Crono and Yoshi. Board 8 better break that pattern and support him against Sephiroth!
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 3/3/2010 3:41:25 PM | message detail | filter | #274
Was there ever a time when Seph wasn't screwed, other than when Yoshi was actually holding the lead? Missingno. thrives on an anti-votable opponent--and with FF7 already guaranteed to be its third-round opponent and projected to be its fourth- and sixth-round opponents, it's looking like poor, "pathetic" Crono has a very realistic shot at being #2 in the x-stats unless either Snake or Link can pull something out. I know that most people like to believe that if A beats B and B beats C, A would definitely beat C, but I really don't think Missingno. works that way. A stronger opponent just helps build a joke character's bandwagon--Yoshi always did have the best shot.

Actually, forget about Snake and Link. The real "best hope" for stopping Missingno. is if Gordon can upset Tifa. Who better than the Last Free Man to take down this abomination? One only has to worry that due to his win on the Gamespot contest, casuals might not realize that he's not supposed to be one of those "elites" and will treat it just like the Crono/Sephiroth/Snake/Cloud/Link matches--"lol, let's make this elite character lose to a Pokémon glitch".

"lol, watch this elite character lose to a glitch". That's all you have to remember. And you know what? It's sickening. Perhaps the worst part is that all the other jokes are in the top half of the bracket, so we can't even hold out for someone like L-Block to stop this madness. They just had to put Missingno. in the group of death, didn't they? I knew right away that the Jenova Division was stupid tough, with two Noble Niners, two top midcarders, one medium-high midcarder, and the aforementioned Gamespot character battle winner...which means that Missingno. gets a steady diet of powerhouses to feast on. This is just sick.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 4:37:09 PM | message detail | filter | #275
Man, Sephiroth is going to be fine. Pokemon winning the ASV over Mario isn't surprising. Mario characters are all morning vote. Their ASV is surprisingly average, and Pokemon's is very good.

Still not feeling Sephiroth losing to Missingno, especially after seeing that he can't get a dominant board vote against Yoshi and Crono. Yes, I understand Sephiroth's board vote is worse, but it just tells me that the board isn't really behind Missingno enough to get him the huge lead he needs to withstand that night vote.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:38:20 PM | message detail | filter | #276
SPOILERS








Missingno dies
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:39:15 PM | message detail | filter | #277
Missingno did what he needed to do today. 51% or 55% makes no real difference- he was never going to beat Sephiroth on strength anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 4:41:14 PM | message detail | filter | #278
Missingno's surprisingly mediocre board vote is more telling to me than anything. If it was going to beat Sephiroth, it needed to get out to a big lead early. I can't see it doing that at this point.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:43:08 PM | message detail | filter | #279
I can. The board sided with Crono and Yoshi because ever since 2008, it's wanted to stop jokes. It doesn't hurt that Crono and Yoshi are both good at the board vote. Sephiroth, in a match beginning at midnight (which was the time L-Block performed all his crazy stuff) is the perfect character to bring out the old joke character early vote.
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Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 4:45:09 PM | message detail | filter | #280
I expect Missingno to lead Sephiroth early. I'm just not convinced it can get the super huge lead it needs on Sephiroth to stay in the lead. This thing isn't in L-Block's league in terms of board votes, and there's a good reason for that. The start time has little to do with it, I think.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:47:39 PM | message detail | filter | #281
I feel either Sephiroth will win easily (56%+, possible 60%+) or Missingno will win it in a close one.
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Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
transients | Posted 3/3/2010 4:49:20 PM | message detail | filter | #282
Crono and Yoshi are early vote gods. Sephiroth is dead.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:52:15 PM | message detail | filter | #283
The first hour isn't going to matter when Sephiroth gets 11 more to undo the damage.

Yoshi, by the way, couldn't even come close to leading Squall with the board vote, though he did win it by a little in the relative sense.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:01:30 PM | message detail | filter | #284
Crono's board vote was pretty bad last year until he faced Vincent, quite frankly. Yeah, it's Vincent, and it's FFVII, but the point is that Missingno needs early vote momentum. I don't care how good Crono's and Yoshi's board votes are. Missingno's going to need a 2007 L-Block level board vote to beat Sephiroth, and right now, he's not getting one.
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transients | Posted 3/3/2010 5:02:43 PM | message detail | filter | #285
Missingno doesn't need early vote momentum. look at today.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:03:48 PM | message detail | filter | #286

From: transients | #285
Missingno doesn't need early vote momentum. look at today.


There's a big difference between Sephiroth and Yoshi, and Missingno isn't going to have the Pokemon ASV to save his tail. If he can't lead Sephiroth big time early, the FF night vote will bury it.
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transients | Posted 3/3/2010 5:04:32 PM | message detail | filter | #287
I actually feel better about Missingno with less votes. a night match will be no big deal.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 5:05:01 PM | message detail | filter | #288
If Missingno gets a lead of even 1000 (i.e. with normal trends Seph wins by perhaps 4000), Seph may be hard pressed to win it. Once Seph approaches taking the lead whatever all these joke characters do in close matches will kick in.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:05:20 PM | message detail | filter | #289
A night match will be no big deal if it can get up 1000-2000 votes in one or two hours, but it won't.
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transients | Posted 3/3/2010 5:10:19 PM | message detail | filter | #290
you still see strength as being an issue with Missingno -- I don't. people aren't going to vote Missingno over Crono and Yoshi but then change their minds when Sephiroth comes around. this isn't an issue of strength.

it's like L-Block was back in 2007. you just won't beat it by normal means. against Sephiroth, it's joke votes + anti-Sephiroth votes + whatever bandwagon effect may come. this should be enough to overwhelm Sephiroth overnight.
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vcharon | Posted 3/3/2010 5:13:05 PM | message detail | filter | #291
Contest over, pack it up boys.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:24:39 PM | message detail | filter | #292
I don't think Missingno is going to magically play up to Sephiroth though, and I don't think Missingno is all joke power (a lot of it is just Poke Power), so I would disagree on the notion that people wouldn't vote Sephiroth over Missingno when they would over Crono and Yoshi. There's very little evidence of rallying in this match aside from those two hours where it absolutely crushed Yoshi, and the vote totals here aren't anything astronomical. I'm seeing very little "bandwagon" effect here.
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transients | Posted 3/3/2010 5:27:06 PM | message detail | filter | #293
it doesn't have the wild trends of L-Block, but there's definitely a bandwagon effect there. if this was close at the end, we'd see Missingno pull away. the more rounds it wins, the bigger the bandwagon gets too.

I dunno, I see it beat Crono and Yoshi and I say, what makes Sephiroth different?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:27:11 PM | message detail | filter | #294
Plus, I think the "anti-joke" contingent is a lot stronger than it was in 2007, which is part of the reason Missingno can't dominate the board vote the way L-Block did.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:28:27 PM | message detail | filter | #295
I dunno, I see it beat Crono and Yoshi and I say, what makes Sephiroth different?

I just think Missingno isn't raw joke power like L-Block is, so that's going to hurt it. Plus, it gets Sephiroth during FFVII time. I don't see a night vote as an advantage for Missingno.
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transients | Posted 3/3/2010 5:29:43 PM | message detail | filter | #296
I think the pro-joke contingent is stronger as well. it's just more polarized.

I think the joke people just want another joke character to win and the non-joke people want to kill them at any cost. this contest has become a weird war between these two factions. I loved L-Block's run but watching the two sides go at it has kind of ruined the fun for me.

I think it's kinda sad that the only thing that can compete with our contest hierarchy are inanimate objects. oh well!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 5:31:53 PM | message detail | filter | #297
There's only so many votes Sephiroth can squeeze out of the dead zone. The real reason FFVII skyrockets in percentage is that its early vote is so abominably bad, such that it is well below what FFVII can pull in during the day time, rather than FFVII being so good in the dead zone. It can put up scary percentages in the dead zone, but in terms of actual votes gained, it's not that big.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 5:34:59 PM | message detail | filter | #298
I don't see a bandwagon or rallying or whatever in this match at all. Yoshi kept it close until the ASV when he got hit hard. Now that we're getting the west coast ASV he's getting hit hard again. This seems like pretty normal day trends to me. In a close match Missingno can probably pull off what he did to Crono but that wasn't a particularly huge swing. Mario's done that an awful lot better.
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MetricTrout | Posted 3/3/2010 5:35:23 PM | message detail | filter | #299
L-Block was not bandwagoned in the second round either.
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 5:42:10 PM | message detail | filter | #300
I dunno. I just don't see this as a "You're either for Missingno or you're against him!" scenario (though even if it were, there's a bigger chunk of the voters against it than there were against L-Block in 2007, and that was done in 4-ways, which I still think makes a difference). I think there's a decent-sized contingent that legitimately likes Missingno. Plus, Sephiroth is just way above Crono or Yoshi to the point where I can't just say, "Well, if those guys, why not him?" to that. I'm not ruling out Missingno by any means. It has a very real and respectable chance of winning that match, but I remain skeptical.
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