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Cloud and Sephiroth you could potentially make a case for, but all those other examples are stupid. Sub-Zero's just plain stronger than Tidus, it wasn't a Tidus flop. Zack and Cid were untested and just weren't at the level of a near-elite (not that anyone should have really considered them this in the first place). Vincent's performance was fine. Old Square minus CT has certainly looked better, but New Square has been fine. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
From: MetricTrout | #450 Are you sure it's 'New Square' disappointing or just Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy VII? Speaking of which, Sub-Zero was the favorite in his match in the BOP. Tidus was barely the favorite in the guru. It was always considered a toss-up. On the topic of today's match, I did some research and found out something interesting. Contrary to what I thought, Riku didn't do so well in 2007 and 2008. In 2007, he barely beat a weakened Ryu Hayabusa and in 2008, he was blown out by the likes of Leon Kennedy. Going by those his performance across those two years, he would probably rank as a low midcarder. Today's results make much more sense in this light. --- It takes a genius to make something simple truly great. Congratulations to KrahenProphet for beating me in the Guru. |
Sheesh, way to suck, Riku. But at least the Guest Clan gets a free point! --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
yeah,
2006 is just a weird year for KH. Riku's been kind of crap ever since.
he's just like Magus - one huge overperformance and a bunch of letdowns
ever since, just they're not as humiliating as Magus's were. --- xyzzy |
45% on Yoshi isn't quite as impressive as 35% on Link, I guess! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
yeah, same situation though. it took people a while to realize just how bad he'd fallen. now Riku loses to anything. seriously, does Riku get 41% on Sub-Zero? --- xyzzy |
The
fact that Riku beat Roxas pretty good in 2007 would make me hesitate to
go Roxas > Riku, but with 358/2 Days on Roxas's resume now, I'd say
it's probably pretty close nowadays. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
But the worst part of this match is that it implies Wander breaks 40% on Ramza! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Lol Ramza |
I think this match is much more Falcon being good than Riku being bad, but I guess we won't know for sure until next round. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Falcon's decent now but there's a limit as to how high I'm willing to go. --- xyzzy |
Eh. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3258 Remove Diddy and Kratos and Falcon could potentially beat Alucard. Would anyone here be surprised if Alucard was beating Riku? --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
oh
I agree completely. but Riku went from 45% on Yoshi (Falcon's not
getting that ever) to beating Hayabusa (the format helped, but still),
to getting rocked by Leon to losing to Falcon. it's a very clear
downward trend. --- xyzzy |
Eh, he looked pretty awful in 2007 anyway. Even if you remove Roxas from that poll, Hayabusa probably still beats him handily. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
This is definitely more Riku than it is Falcon. He's not the only Kingdom Hearts character to look bad either. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
From: transience | #462 Maybe I misunderstood you; I simply think that Riku isn't any worse than he was in 2008. He's freefallen a ton since 2006, yeah. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
From: ZFS | #465 Dante's gonna prove that Axel was just fine! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
sorry can't hear you over all this hadouken and capcom hierarchy ! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
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That does it. Mega Man > Dante > MMX > Ryu > Leon > Zero > Jill > Chris > Ammy > Akuma > Ken > Wesker > M. Bison > Claire > Chun-Li > Protoman > Phoenix > Nero > Vergil > Dr. Wily > Ada Wong > Viewtiful Joe > Nemesis > Miles > Frank West > Servbot > Sigma Don't question the hierarchy unless you want to be made the **** fun of. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
So Ammy beats Ada with <52% yet there's 11 characters between them? I question the hierarchy! --- Mustache...and Green... |
Just look to the hierarchy for all the evidence you need to put your silly question to rest. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Jill > Chris Their matches with Samus and Cloud beg to differ! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
And I'd be pretty surprised if Viewtiful Joe beat Nemesis, to be honest. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
i for one question the validity of that hierarchy --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Hierarchies = worst argument of the year --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
Midgar Division: Round 2 - Match 87 – (3) Leon Kennedy vs. (6) Sackboy Moltar’s Analysis Leon Round 1 - 60.81% vs. Vault Boy Looks like Vault Boy was pretty decent Sackboy Round 1 - 54.58% vs. Kratos A. Oh Tales of… Unless Vault Boy was a sign of something bad, Leon easily has this match. Sackboy did beat Kratos, but it’s pretty apparent now that Tales ain’t what it used to be. If Sackboy could barely beat Kratos, then Leon should be able to win this match by a good margin. Hell, he should do better against Sackboy than he did in Round 1. I’ll guess that he does do better, but not by much. Leon certainly knows how to handle his boys! Moltar’s Bracket: Leon > Sackboy Moltar’s Prediction: Leon: 62% - Sackboy: 38% Lopen’s Analysis Leon's rampage against 'boys' continues. If his opponent next round were named "Dante boy" we could see the upset of upsets. As it stands, no chance. Expect Sackboy to look bad now that the Superbowl has long gone. Check it out I have a classic romantic poem to summarize this match. BLUE 37. RED 19. I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT BUT. SACKBOY LOSES. Lopen's prediction: Leon Kennedy with 63.88% Transience’s Analysis Sackboy did a nice job against Kratos Aurion, but now he's got a real opponent, not a guy that half of the site goes "who?" to. I think a lot of the Sackboy votes last round were people who recognized Sackboy and didn't have a clue who Kratos was. Sackboy's got some decent strength -- he *is* the PS3 mascot at this point -- but let's be real, he's not super liked. No one likes Sackboy like they like Mario (though they should). He's not classic enough. Leon will expose him because of this. transience's prediction: Leon Kennedy with 62.89% Ngamer’s Analysis Quickie w/ Ng: V Boy > S Boy? I...guess, but I wouldn't say >> as most seem to be picking. I'm thinking Leon has a similar amount of trouble here. Ngamer Says: Leon > ____boy #2, 61.59% Kleenex’s Analysis You know, I just realized that Sackboy is a 6th seed. Really? Well, no matter. Because Leon's a 3rd SEED and that's like twice as good or something. The sack won pretty comfortably over Kratos last round, so that's a point in his favor. Unfortunately, the sack won pretty comfortably over Kratos last round, so that's a point against him. Really, Sackboy has no realistic chance here. He's probably going to do worse than Vault Boy (the superior Boy) and that'll be the end of it. If Leon puts up a really ridiculous percentage here it might be worth considering him over Ryu or Dante next round, but seeing as he wasn't able to pull that off the past two years, there's no reason to assume he could do it now. Enjoy your win here Leon, this is end of the line. Bracket: Leon Favorites: Sackboy I guess Prediction: Leon with 65.98% Red Sox’s Analysis Here's a boring match. Leon wins, and easily at that. Sackboy got 54.5% on Kratos Aurion, who got about 36% on Alucard last year. I figure Alucard probably gets around 45% on Leon, this is a night match, and there may be a trace of SFF here, so my prediction will be: Prediction: Leon Kennedy with 69.26% Upset Potential: 0% Upper Bound: Leon with 74% Lower Bound: Leon with 64% Crew Consensus: Leon wonders if Sackboy’s right hand comes off and ends up tearing apart his whole body. |
From: LeonhartFour | #474 (;_;) --- This is good...isn't it? - Big motha****ing Boss |
I guess I'll fill in for he guest yet again. FantasyFreak999's backup writein Well, there's not doubt that Leon is going to win this round. It's just a question of how Sackboy will do. PErsonally, I believe Sackboy would beat Vaultboy, but I dunno if that translates to anything against Leon... oh, what the heck. I'll predict he'll do one onehundreth of a percent better than what Vaultboy got. Leon - 60.80% --- "Run, run, or you'll be well done!" ~Kefka, Final Fantasy 6~ |
RED SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
Darn it, stop dropping Leon! --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
Cloud Strife 71.99% 40719 Chris Redfield 28.01% 15844 TOTAL VOTES 56563 Riku 47.52% 32940 Captain Falcon 52.48% 36378 TOTAL VOTES 69318 Crew Predictions - 71/84 What Happened: Cloud crushes Chris and Falcon exposes Riku. Why it Happened: Looks like Chris's performance on Mac really wasn't all that impressive! Dude is still weak, and it turns out he's even weaker than Ridley. As for Riku, KH hasn't impressed all contest, and now it's pretty obvious that they've fallen a step. Falcon was able to beat Riku without much trouble. What will Happen: Falcon is up next on Cloud's chopping block. Crew Prediction Challenge - Guest rockin Kleenex - 75 Moltar - 75 Tran - 74 Red Sox - 74 Ngamer - 73 Lopen - 70 Guest - 70 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Red Sox gets the point for Cloud and Guest gets the point for Falcon Ngamer - 16 Moltar - 15.5 Guest - 12.5 (Bio: 2.5, CM: 2, Marsman: 1, FF999: 3, vcharon: 1, Luis: 1, GfK: 1, War: 1) Tran - 12 Lopen - 12 Red Sox - 10 Kleenex - 6 --- Moltar Status: Prediction: Leon > Sackboy (88/108) Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Oh man, I might actually get an accuracy point today. Look out. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
Aw yeah, Guest Clan has caught up to Lopen in the Predictions, and now we're in third for accuracy! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
So if Metroid and RE meet in a series contest, who would you pick to win? I'd vote for RE despite my username. |
Midgar Division: Round 2 - Match 88 – (7) Ryu vs. (2) Dante Moltar’s Analysis Ryu Round 1 - 68.97% vs. Balthier Anything you can do… Dante Round 1 - 69.37% vs. Axel I can do better~ This is a great match on paper. Two strong guys going at it. Two upper-midcarders going at it. Two characters people care about going at it. Pre-contest, Dante was the big favorite, even though he lost this match back in 2003, because he’s looked stronger in pretty much every recent contest. Also, Street Fighter had seemed to be on the decline as of late after looking at the results of the Games Contest. Then the contest started, and we saw Ken “bomb” against Wesker. This doubt passes on to Ryu, who then tears Balthier apart. Ryu > Dante talk stirs up for about 12 hours before Dante thrashes Axel, pretty much silencing it. Now we’re pretty much back to square one, with Dante being the favorite in this debatable match. I still like Dante to win here, even with the DMC2 picture. This being a day match favors him if it’s really close, and simply put, I believe that Dante has been a step ahead of Ryu since the 2003 match, and he’s still a step ahead today. Moltar’s Bracket: Dante > Ryu Moltar’s Prediction: Dante: 53% - Ryu: 47% Lopen’s Analysis The answer lies in the heart of battle. So then Ryu does that, and Dante knows it actually lies in the heart of stylish slick combos. No one will mourn Ryu, not even the kiddies. Expect him to get some support early and then get slaughtered. Hit the road, hobo boy. In all seriousness, though. Never understood the Ryu support. Ryu vs Dante hasn't looked like it'd be competitive since like 2005 (remember when Ryu got blown out 60-40 by Bowser), and given that SF4 got owned in the game contest I don't understand why anyone would think that'd boost him much. Dante wins in a walk. And round 1 certainly didn't do this upset any favors, when Dante actually outdid Ryu on a presumably superior opponent. Lopen's prediction: Dante with 60.01% Transience’s Analysis Prior to seeing the match picture, I was super confident in Dante. Consider: - Dante has looked stronger in recent years - Dante had a way better round 1 performance - it's a day match and Dante's better in the day than Ryu (though not by a lot) - the one argument backing Ryu was that it "feels" right to support him; he's much more classic than Dante is. it's basically the same argument people gave for Chief over Hayabusa -- Ryu's just higher on the Capcom hierarchy. thankfully, Hayabusa debunked that theory. Which brings me back to the match picture. To me, that's Ryu's one huge advantage; ugly DMC2 Dante vs. kickass SF4 Ryu. If Ryu wins, I'm blaming that picture. I think part of Falcon's win today can be attributed to how Riku looked in that picture. I was going to go huge with Dante - like 58% or more - but that picture is going to make me be conservative. transience's prediction: Dante with 54.78% Ngamer’s Analysis Quickie w/ Ng: All signs point to a 53% win for Dante... but I DON'T CARE. You have to go All In on the match that'll knock you out of the Guru, so time to go down with the ship! Ngamer Says: Ryu > Dante, 50.05% Kleenex’s Analysis This is it. The Main Event™ of Round 2. In one corner, Mr. Consistency except for 2005. In the other, a way better character. |
This
match happened back in 2003, I believe, and Ryu won fairly easily.
Dante's a bit of an odd one as far as results go. Good showing against
Vincent in 2005, embarassing loss to Yoshi in 2006, amazing run to the
semis in 2007, disappointing, but still respectable performance in
2008. Dante is a sine wave. Every other year, he seems to do well.
Sucks for Ryu that this is Dante's "on" year. Yeah, that's right. No
chance here. Street Fighter in general has looked not so hot recently, from SF2/4 flopping in the Games contest, to Ken's shaky performance against Wesker, so other factors that may or may not exist that I will not outline here. When I predicted my bracket, I took Dante here without thinking twice. And I'm still not really worried about it. In my eyes, Dante is definitely like...half a step above Ryu. It'll be a "close" match, but Dante's never going to be in danger of losing this. Time for Ryu to go back to losing in Round 2 like he usually does. Bracket: Dante Favorites: Dante Prediction: Dante with 54.54% Red Sox’s Analysis I think this match has gotten more attention that it deserves- I don't see this Ryu upset happening, and never did. Of course, that's perhaps a sign that it will happen and I'll look stupid tomorrow. Dante has looked better to me the past few years: 2005: 46% on Vincent vs. 41% on Bowser- Advantage Dante 2006: 49% on Yoshi vs. 42% on Megaman- Even 2007: 42.20% on Auron vs. 56.06% on Leon- Slight Advantage Dante 2008: 42.63% on Crono with L-Block in the poll vs. 46.60% on Kirby in a match where Kirby stood out a lot- Slight Advantage Dante 2010: 68.97% on Balthier vs. 69.37% on Axel- Advantage Dante Now from those numbers you can make an argument for Ryu, for example by attacking the idea that Kirby stood out in the match with Master Chief and Leon. I think Dante deserves to be the favorite here though, and I'm not too nervous about it. Prediction: Dante with 54.00% Upset Potential: 15% Upper Bound: Dante with 59% Lower Bound: Ryu with 51% Guest’s Analysis - Heroic Mario Here's the match of the contest -- two top tier characters, both about the same popularity, and your bracket will be most likely made or broken depending on how it goes. Random Pokemon, glitches, and boring Noble Niners got nothing on this! Glad this is my one crew write-up for the year. I'm not too sure how this is going to break down for other people, though I could probably guess. Dante's got all the reason to win this match -- he's had two new games since the last time he faced Ryu, he's looked better the past couple of years, and he's 'newer' and 'fresher' in people's minds. There's a good argument for Dante, one that I can totally buy, but I think Ryu will pull this out. He's got a better shot here than most give credit. Ryu's biggest advantage is his iconic status: everyone knows him and most people like him. He's far and away the most popular fighting game character in this thing, and rightfully so. I think that will net him a good chunk of votes from people who don't care much for Dante or Devil May Cry, votes that Dante would normally eat up against characters like Axel or whatever other fodder that no one cares about. Dante always puts up big numbers against fodder, but then has trouble once we get into the more popular, well known group. I don't think it has to do with 'choking' so much as Dante's fans aren't as likely to stick around against someone bigger and better. |
The
other big thing for Ryu is Street Fighter IV. Yeah, people will cry
PERSONA 4?!?!, but the game struggling doesn't mean it can't help Ryu,
who's always been more popular than any of his games. And despite
GameFAQs' reluctance to get into fighting games that don't involve
Nintendo characters, SFIV was the first mainstream Street Fighter since
SFII, which was well nearly 20 years ago at this point. Street Fighter
games may have come out since, but they've been somewhat niche. Not so
much here -- SFIV sold nearly 3 million copies worldwide in its first
year. Hard to argue with that, SF was clearly back in the spotlight
this past year. I wouldn't argue that this game is going to make Ryu significantly more popular than he already is or anything. I don't think Ryu can get much more popular than he is now. He's a known quantity, everyone is familiar with who he is and either likes him or doesn't. A new SF game, no matter how big or small, would have a limited effect on his popularity. He's kind of like Mario in that regard, I think. But what SFIV can -- and should -- do is get people who are fans of both characters to side with Ryu. It's no stretch to think that there's overlap between the two, and some Dante fans who would normally be behind him here will go the other way because of SFIV. It's been a long time since people were QCF+P'ing their friends, I wouldn't underestimate that doing something! Outside of that, both of these dudes look about even. Round 1 was a push -- Dante did ever so slightly better, but the difference was negeglible considering Balthier and Axel are probably right next to each other in strength (and KH has been pretty bad this contest, so there's no KH boost or whatever was being thrown around earlier). This could go either way and I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't expect the winner to do more than 53%. but then again you never know how it's going to go when the HIERARCHY is involved Ryu with the doubling tbqh Bracket / Vote: Ryu Prediction: Ryu -- 53% ; Dante -- 47% Crew Consensus: Ryu has two supporters, but Dante is the favorite here. |
Where, two Ryu supporters means no Crew Curse Dante got this --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
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Kleenex says that Dante shall win.That means that Ruy has a pretty big chance! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I thought Sackboy would get closer to Vault Boy than this...huh. Whatever, he's redeemed himself from 2008, at least. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Ryu got this. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Ryu fanboyism zone --- xyzzy |
Dante going to kick ass zone --- who needs a dick when you're good at smash brothers - stingers Now this is entertainment! |
close so far! --- xyzzy |
Ryu 50% 207 Dante 50% 207 TOTAL VOTES 414 --- xyzzy |
Dante got this. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
Dante ever so slowly pulling away --- xyzzy |
gg Ryu --- xyzzy |
