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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3

FantasyFreak999 | Posted 2/4/2010 11:01:51 AM | message detail | filter | #151
er... why is Travis vs. Zelda still up?
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EyeBeeTeeBee | Posted 2/4/2010 11:10:19 AM | message detail | filter | #152
Simon with 77.78% at the freeze

watch out Ezio
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marsman57 | Posted 2/4/2010 11:11:49 AM | message detail | filter | #153
omg Ezio held Simon at the next update!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/4/2010 11:12:13 AM | message detail | filter | #154
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 11:13:40 AM | message detail | filter | #155
Well done, Guest Clan!
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MetricTrout | Posted 2/4/2010 11:26:01 AM | message detail | filter | #156
I generally am right about these types of things.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 11:26:29 AM | message detail | filter | #157

From: MetricTrout | #156
I generally am right about these types of things.


He'll still end up over 60%.
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MetricTrout | Posted 2/4/2010 11:38:49 AM | message detail | filter | #158
You were saying?
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/4/2010 11:49:00 AM | message detail | filter | #159
Wow...I didn't realize just how high all of the Ezio pickers had him. NGamer's is the lowest at 64.18%, which means that if Simon holds Ezio to 56.95% or worse, my pick of Ezio losing with 49.73% of the vote would actually win the accuracy point for the guest clan. That is mind-boggling.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/4/2010 11:52:20 AM | message detail | filter | #160
From: LeonhartFour | #145

It's almost like Lopen and the Guest Clan are having a contest to see who can commit the most gruesome Crew suicide!


Hey, my 49.73% is the most accurate Ezio prediction on here!
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CB8 record through 39 matches: 34-7
Incorrect picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful, Tidus (2 rounds), Phoenix (2 rounds)
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 11:59:55 AM | message detail | filter | #161

From: TsunamiXXVIII | #160
From: LeonhartFour | #145

It's almost like Lopen and the Guest Clan are having a contest to see who can commit the most gruesome Crew suicide!


Hey, my 49.73% is the most accurate Ezio prediction on here!


Too bad it doesn't matter if you LOSE
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 2/4/2010 12:00:03 PM | message detail | filter | #162

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #142
he got nearly doubled by Sam Fisher. I'd take Ezio to put at least 60% on Sam Fisher.


4ways. Also, Sam has been around for 8 years and has millions of fans of his games and he has the recognizable tri-goggles. AC fandom is relatively new, and anybody who hasn't played AC2 has no ****ing clue who Ezio is. The ads do not promote him at all, he looks like some random dude in a robe going around killing people, no name mentioned at all.
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Greyfeld | Posted 2/4/2010 12:01:33 PM | message detail | filter | #163
As far as Ezio vs Altair is concerned, I think the latter has a touch more strength than Ezio, due to being the older character. However, I don't think it should be misconstrued... these two characters, from my experience on various gaming boards, are pretty close in popularity, due to their disparity in personalities.

On the one hand, many people like Altair because he's your typical cold-blooded assassin. Fast, efficient, and lethal. On the other hand, Ezio has a background with a beloved family, and shows a softer, human side that wasn't present in AC1's protagonist.

I believe in a straight 1v1 match, Altair would win as he's been around longer, but by very little... so i don't think Ezio's strength should be taken lightly.
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 12:01:53 PM | message detail | filter | #164
4ways.

Simon got about the same amount on Crono 1-on-1 as he did in 4-ways. Of course, that was back in 2002, but whatever.
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Greyfeld | Posted 2/4/2010 12:08:15 PM | message detail | filter | #165
It's barely 10 AM. there's plenty of time for Ezio to widen his lead.
FantasyFreak999 | Posted 2/4/2010 12:15:04 PM | message detail | filter | #166
Honestly, before this contest, I had no clue who the %@#$ Esio was. I had to look him up.
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Greyfeld | Posted 2/4/2010 12:16:26 PM | message detail | filter | #167
Honestly, before this contest, I had no clue who the %@#$ Esio was. I had to look him up.

Fair enough. Before this contest, I had no clue who Simon was, and I had to do the same thing.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/4/2010 12:38:29 PM | message detail | filter | #168
Yeesh, way to bomb Ezio.
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transience | Posted 2/4/2010 1:31:19 PM | message detail | filter | #169
yeah, Ezio's not close to Altair. Simon freaking Belmont is not stronger than Liquid Snake.

maybe Simon is stronger than I thought though.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/4/2010 3:22:59 PM | message detail | filter | #170
And now Ezio's just tearing it up. This is absolutely insane.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 3:23:41 PM | message detail | filter | #171

From: MetricTrout | #158
You were saying?


At this rate, he'll easily eclipse 60%.
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transients | Posted 2/4/2010 3:39:43 PM | message detail | filter | #172
this is still a pretty poor performance from Ezio.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/4/2010 6:27:28 PM | message detail | filter | #173
Ngamer's Fantastical Writeup

Very nice work by Travis yesterday. Would have been cool to see him keep Zelda below the 70 mark, but I'd say that performance was enough to leave a very favorable impression regardless. The impression reads "This guy may still be fodder, but he's at least high fodder and legitimately one of the more interesting new characters to hit the scene in the past few years. Let's be sure to bring him back if we have another 128 entrant field next season, as he could make for a fun match against a lower level non-Nintendo opponent." Dang, would hate to be branded with THAT impression! Anyways, the question now is whether some of TTD's good number might have been a sign of Zelda weakness, and if she's actually vulnerable this season, will next round's opponent be able to exploit her? Let's take a closer look.

Today's poll created a decent bit of speculation during the bracketing period, but that was mainly due to Ezio being so vastly overseeded for a new, untested character rather than anyone having any actual respect for Simon (who sucks). Once the last Assassin's Creed 2/15 match was in the books though, everyone agreed that this was an open and shut case- if Altair can punch Raiden right in the mouth with a 60-spot, OF COURSE a character with all the same advantages is going to hang 70+ on a guy Raiden doubled in '07. Logically that would seem to follow, but personally I'm somewhat skeptical of this line of reasoning... Imma shoot some bullets at you.

* Ezio > Altair is a terrible, terrible opinion. How many times do we have to have this conversation? "It doesn't matter that Mario/Mega Man/Crono/Sonic came first! Luigi/Zero/Magus/Knuckles are cooler, more beloved within the fanbase, and appear in more critically acclaimed games within the series- they're sure to perform better indirectly/rSFF them/hang 70+ on Simon (who sucks)!" Snake can improve from new MGS games that he doesn't even technically appear in, and Altair can do the same- casuals don't overthink these things like we do.

* Kefka's stunning outing had us all wondering if old school Square wasn't as dead in the water as we'd expected. So why have I heard zero talk about how impressive it was that Alucard was able to destroy Magus, especially in light of how Bowser didn't do the same to Frog? Simon (who sucks) is certainly no Alucard, but there's clearly a decent base of support on this site for Castlevania- I can't see them allowing one of their own to crumble entirely.

* Although it's true that much of Altair's casual appeal lies in his character design, let's not forgot that he also sports an awesome, unique, easy to remember name. "Ezio" is none of those things. "Ezio Auditore di Firenze" is really, REALLY not any of those things.

After thinking this through I was all set to pick Ezio with an underperformance in the low 60s/high 50s, but then I realized that #1 this is a day match and he should flat out kill it with the ASV and #2 he's got a fantastic pic advantage over Simon (who sucks), who looks like a cardboard cutout for an 80s action movie that someone dropped in water and is starting to bleed and warp. I'll still lowball Ezio here, but let's stick with a more conservative...

Ngamer Says: Ezio Auditore di Firenze > Simon, 64.18%

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 7:02:06 PM | message detail | filter | #174
So why have I heard zero talk about how impressive it was that Alucard was able to destroy Magus, especially in light of how Bowser didn't do the same to Frog?

DISSIDIA

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 7:03:35 PM | message detail | filter | #175
Dissidia? What does that have to do with Alucard or Magus?
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 2/4/2010 7:10:45 PM | message detail | filter | #176
Yeah, Dissidia may be a Square game, but Magus ain't FF
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 7:13:29 PM | message detail | filter | #177

From: red sox 777 | #175
Dissidia? What does that have to do with Alucard or Magus?


Exactly. It has nothing to do with them, which is why Kefka can impress why Magus still looks like crap.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/4/2010 7:15:35 PM | message detail | filter | #178
Also, to add what LeonhartFour said, THE PLAN
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 7:19:29 PM | message detail | filter | #179
Oh, the part you quoted was talking about Frog and not Kefka. Didn't read his whole message until afterward, whoops.

But anyway, I've said Alucard looked very impressive since day 1!
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 2/4/2010 9:30:05 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #180
Midgar Division: Round 1 - Match 41 – (1) Cloud Strife vs. (16) Ridley

Moltar’s Analysis

Cloud
This guy is so obscure. No strength at all.

Ridley
A powerhouse

With Link failing to put up 80% on Thrall, Cloud has a chance to “win” Round 1. Ridley has lost to Diablo in the past, who lost to Thrall a few years ago. Therefore, he should see similar numbers to Link/Thrall in today’s match. At best, Cloud does a few points better because a night match helps him.

Moltar’s Bracket: Cloud > Ridley

Moltar’s Prediction: Cloud: 80% - Ridley: 20%



Lopen’s Analysis

Two more cheap write-ups, no time today.

Ridley sucks, people, quit nominating him. I mean as a character.

Well here Ridley breaks through a wall into a waiting Cloud Strife who's ready to execute him. Hail Cloud haired Cloud. It'll be interesting to see how Cloud does-- are Cloud/Sephiroth on the decline like Link? I'm thinking yes...!

Lopen's Prediction
Cloud with 76.35%



Transience’s Analysis

It's Cloud time!

I don't know why, but I feel kind of down about FF7. I think it's partially Cloud losing to Snake and partially Cid bombing against Mega Man. It might not be fair, but I don't think Cloud is an untouchable #2 guy anymore. FF7 seems to finally be showing some age. Its trends have turned into Chrono Trigger-lite and there's no remake in sight.

That said, this is a night match and this is Ridley. Cloud also usually puts up big numbers against weaklings to remind us that he's still damn strong. Cloud can probably push for a tripling here and if he gets to 80% he'll be in great shape to withstand any kind of wonky match with a joke character or Snake or Sephiroth or who the hell knows. I think Ridley can embarrass Cloud early but Cloud will roll him up from there. Ridley and Cloud have opposite trends - Ridley's strong early and weak afterwards while Cloud sucks balls early and just eats people alive overnight. If Cloud's only at like 70% early, don't overreact. Cloud will be fine.

transience's prediction: Cloud with 77.83%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Fantastical writeup coming soon!

Ngamer Says: Cloud > Ridley, 77.77%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Time to show everyone what's up. It hasn't been a big secret that I've got Cloud winning in my bracket this year. Why did I decide to go for that? Well, a number of reasons, ranging from the later rounds coinciding with FFXIII's release, DISSIDIA BOOST (yeah right), and inside information that the FFVII remake is going to be announced the day of the finals (don't believe Nomura's lies). And hey, Link has never won two years in a row !!

That's still all a ways off anyway. This match should give an alright gauge as to where Cloud stands in relation to Link. Hopefully the two will constantly try to one-up each other as the rounds go by, similar to how FF7 and OoT played that game last year. I've got a bit more respect for Ridley than I do for Thrall, and he's got a pretty cool picture, even though he's TOO BIG. Better than that...whatever it was he got in 2007. Yikes. I don't think Cloud will match Link's first round percentage in this match because of that, but he should come within a few percent. If he doesn't, well, the upset train is going to derail pretty quickly.

Let's go Cloud.


Bracket: Cloud
Favorites: Cloud
Prediction: Cloud with 77.12%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 2/4/2010 9:30:16 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #181
Red Sox’s Analysis

The Dark Lord of the Sith sat upon his throne. A cloaked figure appeared in the gateway.

“Enter.”

“My lord, Cloud has his first match of the tournament tonight. He is strong in the force, very strong indeed. What are your plans for him?”

“My apprentice, let us leave Cloud alone for now. He is no threat to us.”

“No threat? But his strength is………are you Cloud, my master?”

“Am I? That you shall not know…..yet.”

Link faltered at the start of the contest when going for the blowout of the round, and now Cloud gets his chance to take advantage. Link, in addition to winning beating Cloud in their match, usually beats him in first round blowouts too, so this is a nice opportunity for Cloud to beat Link at something and start up the hype train. Even better, Cloud is up against a Nintendo character, so if he smashes Ridley and beats Mario’s 81% on Falco, that will send a message to Link.

Well, it probably won’t really send a message to Link, who’s now so aloof above the rest of the field that he fears nothing but inanimate objects. But nonetheless, Link hasn’t faced Cloud in a proper match since 2006, on the day of TP’s release, and Link doesn’t always win contests- he’s lost 2 out of 7 and he looked every bit as invincible in those years as he looks now- so that Cloud > Link hype train that will probably build this year does have some chance of success.

Prediction: Cloud with 81.17%
Upset Potential: 0%
Upper Bound: Cloud with 85%
Lower Bound: Cloud with 75%



Guest’s Analysis - SuperAngelo128

Apparently Ridley was able to get some of his popularity to get through the vote-ins after being TOO BIG to fit in Brawl.

Either way, it’s pretty obvious Cloud’s gonna dominate here, but the question is by how much… Can Ridley get a BIG amount of votes to make himself look sorta respectable after losing to Diablo?

Personally my guess is that his strength hasn’t changed much from Brawl and Prime 3 since he’s just a small fan-favorite boss and never playable.

SUPAAA Angelo’s Prediction:

Cloud- 82.46%

Ridley- 17.54%



Crew Consensus: Cloud cuts Ridley down to size.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 9:31:05 PM | message detail | filter | #182
Ridley has lost to Diablo in the past, who lost to Thrall a few years ago.

Thrall never won a match nor faced diablo
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 9:33:44 PM | message detail | filter | #183
Cloud > Ridley, 77.77%

If Cloud gets Lucky Sevens, he'll be unstoppable!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/4/2010 9:34:31 PM | message detail | filter | #184
I'm the kind of guy who will almost always give a pity vote to someone who's gonna be blown out and I'm still voting for Cloud tonight. Ridley sux

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 9:35:21 PM | message detail | filter | #185

From: KamikazePotato | #184
I'm the kind of guy who will almost always give a pity vote to someone who's gonna be blown out and I'm still voting for Cloud tonight. Ridley sux


and yeah same for me. get this thing out of the contests
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 9:35:30 PM | message detail | filter | #186
Ridley deserves no pity!

*mumbles about picking Ridley > Diablo in the Villains Contest*
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:59:05 PM | message detail | filter | #187
Pity vote?

Cloud deserves a pity vote, after 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008!
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th3l3fty | Posted 2/4/2010 10:30:30 PM | message detail | filter | #188
Thrall never won a match nor faced diablo

he probably meant to say Arthas
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 2/4/2010 10:58:49 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #189
all those Blizzard characters are the same to me
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transience | Posted 2/4/2010 11:00:43 PM | message detail | filter | #190
aww yeah that's my Cloud
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ZFS | Posted 2/4/2010 11:02:20 PM | message detail | filter | #191
Ridley what a beast

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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/4/2010 11:02:54 PM | message detail | filter | #192
Ngamer's Fantastical Writeup

So here's how today went down: *votes* Hmm, looks like I owe Simon an apology, he's managing to hold Ezio a little under 60! Though 80% of this result is probably Ezio bombing rather than Simon having any real strength. Let's check the trends... whoa, what the FLIP? How did Simon have 85% at the freeze? Ohhhh, I see, there were only 7 votes. The Zelda poll must have run long, meaning TRE and Luster and the rest of the First Vote crew were the only ones to get their choices in thanks to their backdoor script. Dang, what a shock for a second there!

Throwing out the crazy start, it looks like Ezio pushed it up from 56 in the early going to 60 by the time he peaked- that's some decentish ASV power, but this end result still leaves him looking pretty pathetic compared to Altair, considering their opponents. Well, at least an outing like this will put a shovel through the head of all that silly Zelda upset talk... beyond that I don't have much else to say, aside from how happy I am to sneak an accuracy point out of such a bad call!

tranny's always made the case that it's worthwhile to keep Link/Ocarina/Cloud/FF7 in the main bracket just to watch them play a game of one-upsmanship as they try to top each other's awe-inspiring blowouts. Normally I agree with him (with the exception of the upcoming 1v1 Games Contest- just imagine how awesome those 2 months are going to be, considering how we have NO IDEA what the #3 game on this site is!), but it seems as though that's not going to be the rule this year, for whatever reason. Link had a tougher time than expected against Thrall, not even managing 80%, and Mario could only get to 81% himself despite drawing an ideal opponent. Surely this sets up Cloud for an easy win at the "Upset of the Contest" game, right?

I say... no. Ridley's Contest legacy is always going to be "huge bust" after the way he disappointed us against Diablo in '05 despite Heroic Mario's 25,000 words to the contrary (conservative estimate). Even so, this is a good matchup for him- Metroid always collapses in the face of any respectable Nintendo competition, but turns around and brings its A game against Square. Samus has shown us this in direct matchups against Cloud, and I don't think Ridley does anything to break the mold tonight. As for the time of day, hmm... Sure Cloud is going to pick up huge chunks of percent overnight, but I still think overall this could work in Ridley's favor just based off the strong pro-Metroid anti-FF7 push he's sure to get in the opening hours.

Give me Cloud for a big time win, but one that never approaches Blowout of the Year territory. I'm sticking with lucky sevens here!

Ngamer Says: Cloud > Ridley, 77.77%

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Lopen | Posted 2/4/2010 11:03:23 PM | message detail | filter | #193
Who wants some of this Snake > Cloud action.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/4/2010 11:06:27 PM | message detail | filter | #194
Wow, Cloud

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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 2/4/2010 11:07:22 PM | message detail | filter | #195
Congrats to Ridley for leading for the first 5-10 seconds of the match. :)
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/4/2010 11:12:06 PM | message detail | filter | #196
If Cloud's only at like 70% early, don't overreact. Cloud will be fine.

What if he's at... SIXTY FOUR?

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transience | Posted 2/4/2010 11:12:49 PM | message detail | filter | #197
yeah, Cloud's sucking, but he'll recover pretty nicely. I'd be surprised if Cloud didn't break 70% here.
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Lopen | Posted 2/4/2010 11:14:21 PM | message detail | filter | #198
Midgar Division?

More like Crazy Party Division m i rite guys?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/5/2010 6:22:06 AM | message detail | filter | #199
What's this, CLOUD barely breaking 70% on RIDLEY??? I just don't understand this. If Cloud wins the contest after getting embarassed by a Metroid character...then I will...oh wait, it's CLOUD, the star of the best non-Nintendo game ever! So let's not trash him.

Seriously though, I expected Cloud to be a bit below 80% at worst, and this is a night match. I have to wonder if his goofy Kingdom Hearts pic is hurting him compared to Ridley's SSBB pic. And it also means...that BIG BOSS will have fourth largest blowout of the contest. Also

Prince of Persia (2007c) has a strength of 20.39 against Base Link.
Ridley (2007c) has a strength of 16.01 against Base Link.
Prince of Persia wins with 60.74% of the vote!
A 27,326 vote margin of victory.

Time to start the Samus > Cloud train? I'm actually NOT going to root for it this year (because I would easily vote for FF7 over any Metroid game now, and I think Smash is overrated on this site)!
FantasyFreak999 | Posted 2/5/2010 9:37:44 AM | message detail | filter | #200
I have to wonder if his goofy Kingdom Hearts pic is hurting him compared to Ridley's SSBB pic.

I believe that that's his Dissidia pic, not his KH pic.
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