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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2

DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/29/2010 1:56:34 AM | message detail | filter | #301
LOL at Lopen being in first.

Crew = joke confirmed!

Really wish I had signed up for this match. Wouldn't have gone much higher than Lopen but oh well.

PS am I the only one who hates it when the Guest doesn't go for the upset in the debatable matches? Come on Luis! Have faith!
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CBVIII: 24/26 - 24 pts - Losses: Ocelot, Liquid
Night Pick: Kefka Day Pick: Bowser
Dr_Football | Posted 1/29/2010 1:57:27 AM | message detail | filter | #302
I wish I had signed up as Guest for every debated match so far

>_>
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Lopen | Posted 1/29/2010 1:59:04 AM | message detail | filter | #303
Dammit the crew isn't a joke I've just ascended to a higher brain pattern.

You cannot match my might.
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transience | Posted 1/29/2010 2:11:58 AM | message detail | filter | #304
props to Dr Football on that perfect bracket thus far.

but can you write about 127 matches in two months? oh ho ho
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Dr_Football | Posted 1/29/2010 2:18:15 AM | message detail | filter | #305
Slowly but surely people will think of me and not think of Dr Pizza immediately
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transience | Posted 1/29/2010 2:19:59 AM | message detail | filter | #306
five years later and they still call me a transexual

it could be worse
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/29/2010 2:20:32 AM | message detail | filter | #307
Btw Moltar, I'll write my L-block/HK analysis tomorrow when I wake up. Should get to you before 5 PM.
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CBVIII: 24/26 - 24 pts - Losses: Ocelot, Liquid
Night Pick: Kefka Day Pick: Bowser
FantasyFreak999 | Posted 1/29/2010 7:11:07 AM | message detail | filter | #308
I'm tacking this one up to Kefka actually having a decent picture for once in his life. :p
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GTM | Posted 1/29/2010 9:20:56 AM | message detail | filter | #309
i faintly remember a match where the board swayed one way and was wrong and the prediction percentage was like 70% showing the casuals did well in that one case


anyone know which match im talkign about?
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voltch | Posted 1/29/2010 9:29:01 AM | message detail | filter | #310
Crew curse is stronger than ever here.
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/29/2010 10:14:13 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #311
Heart Division: Round 1 - Match 28 – (4) Bowser vs. (13) Frog

Moltar’s Analysis

Bowser
The Big Bad Bowser has got to look good going into his Round 3 match.

Frog
A cool theme can’t save you here, Froggy

In a match between two characters who pushed Snake to his limit years ago, only one can move on. The winner here is the character that wouldn’t be killed as badly by Snake today, King Koopa.

Bowser was easily the stronger character going into this Contest. Then you’ve got Magus looking like ass and suggesting that CT is even worse off than it was 2 years ago.

Plus, Frog already only got 35% on Ganon in 2008, and Bowser is *CONTROVERSIAL OPINION AHEAD* a bit weaker than Ganondorf sooooooooooooooooo.

Moltar’s Bracket: Bowser > Frog

Moltar’s Prediction: Bowser: 63% - Frog: 37%



Lopen’s Analysis

Lizard vs Amphibian GRUDGE MATCH.
Dude who made Snake look bad in the sprite round vs Dude who made Snake look bad in the sprite round. GRUDGE MATCH.
Super Mario World vs Chrono Trigger GRUDGE MATCH

Well this would've been an interesting match in say... 2005, but now we know Frog is a dirty cheater and also not very strong. Doesn't help that this is a day match and Frog's slimy skin can't take the sun's rays. Bowser's gonna stomp this guy, and stomp him well. Don't see this one being debatable outside the first 5 minutes.

Take your *blares Frog theme* and STICK IT, mang!

Lopen's prediction:
Bowser with 60.13%



Transience’s Analysis

Well, Arthas laid a huge egg. Either that or Kefka is now legit.

...I'm gonna go with Arthas laying a huge egg.

Today's match could be fun because Frog is involved. Who the hell knows what Frog is capable of? Winning should be out of the question - he's super outmatched here - but Frog could get like 45% and nobody would really blink. That's just how Frog is, he beats people with 50% or he loses to super strong characters with 48%.

The main thing we're looking for here is comparing Sora to Bowser by using Frog and Midna. Frog was actually equal to Midna in 2007 when they were in the same eightpack together if you measure them through Scorpion. Based on that, Bowser should break 60% with ease if he wants a shot at Sora.

I just don't trust Frog to follow the stats though. Yeah, it's a day match, but that just means Frog's crazy fans will vote in the day instead of the night. Bowser's also not very good in the daytime so this won't be a huge advantage for him. Bowser's been on a downswing the last couple of years, but now we're back to 1v1s and Bowser's just had probably his biggest game since we started doing contests here, so I have a bit of faith in him. I just don't trust him to blow out Frog because you just don't do that. Sure, Samus did it once. Frog ain't Samus though.

That said, Magus did bomb to all holy hell, and if you can link Frog to anyone, it's Magus. They both looked great once upon a time and have been in freefall for the last five years. A smart, logical person would predict a doubling here. I'm not that confident.

transience's prediction: Bowser with 61.31%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Fantastical writeup coming soon!

Ngamer Says: Bowser > Frog, 62.43%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Sorry Frog, there's no room for your shenanigans this year. Bowser is out of your league nowadays, and it won't be close enough to pull off a miracle comeback at the end of the match. Still, this should give us a bit of a better read on CT characters in general, and we'll see if Crono should be worried before he reaches Sephiroth.

Boring writeup for a boring match.


Bracket: Bowser
Favorites: Bowser
Prediction: Bowser with 68.45%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/29/2010 10:14:30 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #312
Red Sox’s Analysis

Before Kefka/Arthas, I was going to write a long, detailed, analysis of this match, full of tons of stats. After seeing Kefka/Arthas, I think I’m just going to toss all that out until I recover from the shock. Frog, this is your chance to redeem Chrono Trigger after that horrible performance Magus gave us. You can’t be outdone by Kefka!

Anyway, Ganondorf beat Frog with 64% last year, but there were 3 RPG characters in the poll, and there was no picture for the first hour, in which Ganon did notably better, so that probably underrates Frog a bit. Bowser should be a fair amount weaker than Ganon, something like 55-45 perhaps, and then Frog should have boosted some from CTDS. That probably gives Frog something like 45% in this match, which I would be very happy with if Frog got. But winning would be even better. Star of the Round let’s do this, Frog!

Prediction: Bowser with 55.00%
Upset Potential: 10%
Upper Bound: Bowser with 63.00%
Lower Bound: Frog with 50.05%



Crew Consensus: Bowser is going to have some Roast Frog
red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 10:17:24 AM | message detail | filter | #313
Considered going with Frog with 50.05% for kicks, but didn't do it.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/29/2010 10:20:22 AM | message detail | filter | #314
and then Frog should have boosted some from CTDS

Oh red sox. You keep that CT faith alive!

*blares oc remix of Frog's theme*
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 10:23:50 AM | message detail | filter | #315
Lower Bound: Frog with 50.05%

Never change, red sox. Never change.

And no Guest? Time for me to fill in on an emergency basis! Give me a sec!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 10:30:26 AM | message detail | filter | #316
Shredderhart's Emergency Fill-in Writeup Due to an Unacceptable Failure on the Part of the Guest Clan

After Sora did about as expected against Midna (I'm seeing several people say that was disappointing on Sora's part, but I don't get it. That's about what you should have expected if Mewtwo and Midna are close in strength), Bowser needs to come close to matching it in order to have a chance in their round 3 showdown. However, if Bowser actually outdoes Sora here in percentage, I won't be surprised. After all, Magus dropped an atomic bomb earlier, so it won't be that big of a deal if Frog follows suit. However, if Frog manages to break 40% here, I think Bowser's probably in trouble, depending on how high he goes.

Bowser hasn't looked that great since his epic run back in 2005, but he's fresh off of Bowser's Inside Story, his first starring role in a Mario game (Seriously, how did Princess Peach get her own game before Bowser?). Sure, it's a handheld game, the Mario & Luigi RPGs aren't that popular here, and Fawful already bombed, but the game did sell well and Bowser is unbelievably awesome in it. I have to think it helps him at least a little.

Leonhart's Vote: The King of Awesome, the great Bowser!

Leonhart's Anticipation Level: Fairly high. It won't be an exciting match (probably, you never know with Frog), but both of these guys probably make my top 25 characters and this should give us a good idea of where Bowser stands relative to Sora.

Leonhart's Prediction: Bowser Koopa with 63.80%
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 1/29/2010 10:41:18 AM | message detail | filter | #317
no guest again?

super quick last minute guest stealing writeup!

So, Frog vs. Bowzer... well, the results shouldn't shock anyone. Now just how strong is Frog? Well, nobody really knows for sure, what with his spastic results in the contest. In this contest though, I don't think he's gonna get his usual rally votes. Hopefully Bowzer can look impressive (I have Bowzer > Sora).

Bowzer with 64.5%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 10:44:27 AM | message detail | filter | #318
You're ten minutes late, dude!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 10:52:42 AM | message detail | filter | #319
Also, CREW CURSE STRIKES AGAIN WITH ARTHAS

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 10:54:35 AM | message detail | filter | #320
Looks like I win if Frog can break 42.5%. I need a win right now; am falling behind.
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 1/29/2010 11:22:03 AM | message detail | filter | #321
Crap! Foiled again! I take so long to write these thing. lol

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/29/2010 3:13:26 PM | message detail | filter | #322
Prediction: Arthas with 61.00%
Upset Potential: 5%
Upper Bound: Arthas with 66.00%
Lower Bound: Arthas with 54.00%


Prediction: Bowser with 55.00%
Upset Potential: 10%
Upper Bound: Bowser with 63.00%
Lower Bound: Frog with 50.05%



More.. upset potential to FROG... than Kefka? Really?
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CBVIII: 24/26 - 24 pts - Losses: Ocelot, Liquid
Night Pick: Kefka Day Pick: Bowser
Lopen | Posted 1/29/2010 3:14:24 PM | message detail | filter | #323
Upset potential was shown to be a joke stat on the very second day.

But Sox can't take it out now!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/29/2010 3:15:18 PM | message detail | filter | #324
Whoops, went a little too high!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 3:15:43 PM | message detail | filter | #325
Of course! You can't expect me to be unbiased in CT matches. I was seriously considering predicting Frog with 50.05% and putting upset potential at 90%.
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transients | Posted 1/29/2010 3:59:19 PM | message detail | filter | #326
well then. Frog or Midna?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 4:02:01 PM | message detail | filter | #327
Midna. She more or less vindicated her performance against Mewtwo with her match against Sora.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/29/2010 4:03:36 PM | message detail | filter | #328
Email sent, Moltar.
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CBVIII: 25/27 - 25 pts - Losses: Ocelot, Liquid
Day Pick: Bowser Night Pick: L-Block
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 4:05:59 PM | message detail | filter | #329

From: transients | #326
well then. Frog or Midna?


Midna. Chrono Trigger blows.
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Lopen | Posted 1/29/2010 4:07:03 PM | message detail | filter | #330
Frog takes that

Give me the guy that has actually proven himself by winning matches over Midna.

That being said it means nothing for Bowser vs Sora. (Though I now think Bowser probably takes that given it's a night match)
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 4:08:50 PM | message detail | filter | #331
I'd love Bowser > Sora to happen, but don't really see it being close.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 4:08:54 PM | message detail | filter | #332
Give me the guy that has actually proven himself by winning matches over Midna.

What, a match with Samus in the poll?

Hey quick Axel vs. Mewtwo
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 4:09:34 PM | message detail | filter | #333
Midna's match with Mewtwo is more impressive than anything Frog has done in a while.

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Lopen | Posted 1/29/2010 4:09:48 PM | message detail | filter | #334
I meant more 2004 and 2005 where he's actually won 1v1s.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 4:10:20 PM | message detail | filter | #335

From: Lopen | #334
I meant more 2004 and 2005 where he's actually won 1v1s.


This is Midna's first 1-on-1 contest, and she didn't exactly have a winnable scenario.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 4:10:51 PM | message detail | filter | #336
Heck just look at the last two years. Frog gets 27.52% on Samus. Midna gets 25.41% on Cloud.

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Lopen | Posted 1/29/2010 4:15:28 PM | message detail | filter | #337
I'm just sayin in a debatable match where one entrant has seen 1v1s and one hasn't, give me the one that has every time.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 4:16:39 PM | message detail | filter | #338
Midna's 25% on Cloud was in round 1, and a prime candidate for First Place Factor. I guess Frog's 27% should be suspect for the same reason too, although that was only the 3rd 4-way ever, and we didn't really seem to see much FPF in 2007, presumably because it took the voters a while to realize they didn't need to vote for their favorite always.

Midna's 2007 and 2008 performances just seem so different though. Scorpion wouldn't 60-40 Mewtwo, would he? He probably wouldn't even win.

What I'm hoping for is that all this means that Ganondorf fell pretty hard after TP came and the hype went away.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 4:16:40 PM | message detail | filter | #339
No, it really isn't. Outside of Arthas every character we've seen in 4-ways has been pretty much the same in 1-ways. Picking Frog there has no basis in anything.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 4:17:38 PM | message detail | filter | #340
In Midna's poll against Cloud in R1, she got 25%. Adding Mewtwo brought that down to 23%. Factor in a bit of LFF and there's absolutely nothing weird about it.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 4:18:15 PM | message detail | filter | #341

From: Lopen | #337
I'm just sayin in a debatable match where one entrant has seen 1v1s and one hasn't, give me the one that has every time.


So you want to take Tanner > Professor Layton?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 4:18:54 PM | message detail | filter | #342
Hmm, she did get 23% in round 2 despite Mewtwo there. What happened to her between 2007 and 2008?
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Lopen | Posted 1/29/2010 4:19:29 PM | message detail | filter | #343
Tanner vs Layton is debatable by the stats?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 4:19:31 PM | message detail | filter | #344

From: red sox 777 | #342
Hmm, she did get 23% in round 2 despite Mewtwo there. What happened to her between 2007 and 2008?


She got free from LFF, and probably some additional TP exposure.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 4:19:50 PM | message detail | filter | #345

From: Lopen | #343
Tanner vs Layton is debatable by the stats?


It could be if Layton's as overrated as Arthas was...!
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 1/29/2010 5:36:34 PM | message detail | filter | #346
It's not so much that Arthas laid an egg as that he wasn't really in a great situation. Kefka may be primarily remembered for his choke jobs, but he has occasionally shown signs of strength, and aside from a disturbing tendency to lose to GTA characters, he hasn't really dropped matches to complete scrubs. (Aside from the 2005 loss to Vercetti and the '08 last place finish against Marth/Duke/Niko, his worst loss in terms of quality of opponent was to Diablo--a contest he finished 7th in.) Kefka's far from legit--probably doesn't even qualify as a midcarder--but he's generally good enough to beat most fodder, which is what Arthas is. I suspect that Kefka gets a reputation for being worse than he actually is because he was expected to be better than he turned out to be. We expected a midcarder, ended up with a fodder-liner, and have exaggerated his ineptitude into portraying him as someone who is always expected to lose.
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transients | Posted 1/29/2010 5:43:17 PM | message detail | filter | #347
it's not that Kefka is overhated because he's disappointed us so many times, it's that Arthas has looked flat out better in 2007 and 2008. Kefka didn't just beat him, he mauled him. hell, Arthas came closer to Diablo than Kefka did and he rocked Ike, something Kefka could never do. granted he had some help there in the form of Pikachu, but still. Kefka lost handily to Marth.

that's laying an egg. a big one.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 5:50:12 PM | message detail | filter | #348
Aw yeah, looks like another point for the Guest Clan!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 5:52:17 PM | message detail | filter | #349
Yeah Kefka edging out Arthas wouldn't have been that surprising, if weird.

Kefka getting 60.6% on Arthas? Time to sound the alarms.

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:53:13 PM | message detail | filter | #350
Would anyone take Kefka over Diablo in a rematch?
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'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....