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Character Battle VIII Contest Analysis Crew

KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 5:09:16 PM | message detail | filter | #301
Krang, huh. I can deal with this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 5:09:59 PM | message detail | filter | #302
Foot Clan? The Foot Clan's ownin' you suckas right now!
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/19/2010 7:48:31 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #303
Amaterasu........................52.59% 41994
Shadow the Hedgehog.....47.41% 37852
TOTAL VOTES................................79846

Weighted Companion Cube...78.1% 38427
Sandal....................................21.9% 10775
TOTAL VOTES...................................49202


Crew Predictions - 5/7

What Happened: Ammy beats Shadow in a close match and one joke beats down another

Why it Happened: For Ammy/Shadow...yeah people don't like Shadow much these days. As for Sandal...no one cares.

What will Happen: Sonic team may be in trouble if Shadow is any indication. Cube is also looking really good for Round 3.



Crew Prediction Challenge - One point for everyone

Moltar - 6
Lopen - 5
Kleenex - 5
Tran - 5
Ngamer - 5
Red Sox - 5
Guest - 4



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Lopen had the highest Cube pick

Guest - 2 (Bio: 1, CM: 1)
Ngamer - 1
Kleenex - 1
Moltar - 1
Lopen - 1
Tran - 0
Red Sox - 0
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Moltar Status: Bracket: The Boss > Drake (6/7)
Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 7:49:19 PM | message detail | filter | #304
One point for everyone

wut
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 7:49:55 PM | message detail | filter | #305
Oh, it was both matches.

Don't mind me!
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/19/2010 7:50:05 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #306
No one picked Shadow but everyone picked Cube, sir!
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Moltar Status: Bracket: The Boss > Drake (6/7)
Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/
Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/19/2010 8:14:39 PM | message detail | filter | #307
I believe you mean no one picked Ammy, sir!
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 8:15:33 PM | message detail | filter | #308
Aw, I don't get an accuracy point for having the lowest Shadow prediction?

Not to worry, victory shall soon come.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
Ngamer64 | Posted 1/19/2010 8:27:24 PM | message detail | filter | #309
What the- those assignments are terrible! Any villains list where the guy who'd take Crono over Mario isn't Bebop and the guy who'd take Snake over Link isn't Rocksteady does NOT get my stamp of approval.

But why are we going in that direction anyways? We're the heroes of this Contest, by golly! We ought to be concerned with


The TMNT Crew

Master Moltar as Master Splinter
* The Crew's wise old sensei and adoptive father, Moltar is a supremely talented analysis who learned the ways of predictsu from the man who consistently owned him, Ultima Terializer. These days he prefers to mostly stay underground and let the younger members of the Crew do the dirty work, but anyone who disrespects him by thinking he's "well past his prime" is in for a rude awakening.

tranny as Leonardo
* The courageous Crew leader and a devoted student of math 'n stats, tranny is the most experienced of the four and the most skilled at writeups. When the going gets tough, everyone knows that tranny is the one Crewmember who can always be counted on to submit a well-reasoned prediction on time.

Ngamer as Donatello
* The brilliant x-stats scientist, Guru inventor, site engineer, and technological genius, "Ng" is perhaps the least aggressive Crewmate, preferring to take a conservative approach to predictions and use his inventive website to help solve difficult matchup problems.

Kleenex as Raphael
* The team's bad boy, Kleenex has an aggressive nature and seldom hesitates to throw the first verbal jab. He is an intense analysis; his writeups can be alternately fierce and sarcastic, and they often times delivers deadpan humor. Still, he is intensely loyal to his fellow Crewmates and their sensei.

Lopen as Michelangelo
* Easy-going and free-spirited, "Longshot Lopen" provides much of the comic relief for the series (of topics). While he loves to relax with short writeups on dull matches, this Crewmate also has an adventurous and creative side, leading to nearly all of the most daring upset choices (and most hilarious writeups!) in Crew history.

red sox as Casey Jones
* A newcomer to the group, this longtime Contest vigilante has become one of the core Crewmember's closest allies. Casey first met up with the Crew after having a fight with Kleenex in the stats topic. red sox fights against past Contest results with an assortment of intellectual tools (SFF, LFF, Chrono Trigger bias, nostalgia, not having played any video game released since 1998, etc.), never resting until he has somehow battered, beaten, and twisted the stats into supporting his conclusion.

The Guests as April O'Neal
* Unpleasant and generally annoying, no one notices The Guests until they're not around (and even then no one much minds their absence).

Leon as Shredder
* A villainous predictsu master called Leon Hartfour. In every incarnation of the Crew season, he has been the archenemy of Moltar and the Crewmates. Leon prefers to use biting sarcasm and hindsight to insult the Crew's choice well after a match has been decided instead of submitting his own writeups ahead of time. The Crew will not rest until he has been dethroned from his #1 position and exposed for the fraud he is.

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ZFS | Posted 1/19/2010 8:29:03 PM | message detail | filter | #310
Whoa.

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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/19/2010 8:29:22 PM | message detail | filter | #311
Guests beating the Crew down in predicting percentages.

Let's keep it up, gang.
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It may be insulting, but it's true!
Now this is entertainment!
transients | Posted 1/19/2010 8:34:17 PM | message detail | filter | #312
Guests are in last in prediction accuracy? shock and awe!
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/19/2010 8:35:47 PM | message detail | filter | #313
Don't look at me I got my pick right
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It may be insulting, but it's true!
Now this is entertainment!
Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/19/2010 8:37:01 PM | message detail | filter | #314
Hey if i'd been the Guest for Ammy/Shadow we'd be tied with everyone 'cept Moltar, and we'd be even further ahead in percentage accuracy!
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
transients | Posted 1/19/2010 8:37:56 PM | message detail | filter | #315
gotta back it up, guests! bring it!
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/19/2010 8:42:03 PM | message detail | filter | #316
Gladly! Let's do this!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 8:51:13 PM | message detail | filter | #317
Leon prefers to use biting sarcasm and hindsight to insult the Crew's choice well after a match has been decided instead of submitting his own writeups ahead of time.

And don't forget my hatred toward Master Splintar (There isn't an easy way to make a cross between Splinter and Moltar without it looking like I misspelled the word!) for banishing me from the Crew and forcing me to establish my own force: The Guest Clan!

The Guests as April O'Neal
* Unpleasant and generally annoying, no one notices The Guests until they're not around (and even then no one much minds their absence).


And what is this? April O'Neill was my childhood cartoon crush!
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transients | Posted 1/19/2010 8:55:08 PM | message detail | filter | #318
And what is this? April O'Neill was my childhood cartoon crush!

this explains so much.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 8:56:40 PM | message detail | filter | #319
I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/19/2010 8:56:44 PM | message detail | filter | #320
TMNT FTW.

Not that I'm much of a fan nowadays.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 8:58:10 PM | message detail | filter | #321
You guys are weird.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 8:59:15 PM | message detail | filter | #322
Ha, those were great, NGamer. You got me perfectly!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 9:06:42 PM | message detail | filter | #323
Shut your mouth, Raphael! You got punked by the Guest Clan!
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"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
Lopen | Posted 1/19/2010 9:08:07 PM | message detail | filter | #324
Oddly I knew who almost all those picks would be when I saw Splinter.
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/19/2010 9:25:33 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #325
Chaos Division: Round 1 - Match 9 – (1) Sonic the Hedgehog vs. (16) Lightning

Moltar’s Analysis

Sonic
Alright Sonic, you may have sucked the past two years, but we can blame that on the format. You better not mess things up here.

Lightning
So yeah that American copy of FFXIII sure is fun who bought it

This match could’ve been interesting if it were held on the day of FFXIII’s release. However, it is not. Therefore, Sonic should have this easily. Don’t expect Lightning to give up and die so easily though. She’s probably going to look respectable here just because of the FF name.

Moltar’s Bracket: Sonic > Lightning

Moltar’s Prediction: Sonic: 70% - Lightning: 30%



Lopen’s Analysis

Sega Mascot vs FF Character

Not much to see here. FF Character does overly well cause she stomps in Japan, and because of HYPE.

I'm rooting for FF Character cause it'd be hilarious for her to win, but Sega Mascot is just too big and bad. If Sega Mascot had gone up against say Nathan Drake, we could've had a humorous result. As is, I expect a respectable performance, but nothing more.

Lopen's Prediction:
Sega Mascot with 71.99%



Transience’s Analysis

Like the Cube match, this is a tough one from a percentage standpoint. Sonic wins this, we all know that. It would take an extraordinary amount of hate for Sonic to lose to a character that doesn't exist yet. Sonic is not at that level.

After the Shadow match, though, you have to believe that there's *some* antivoting going on. Shadow gets the worst of it, but Sonic doesn't get away unscathed. If Sonic can't double Lightning, something is dreadfully wrong and he's probably getting his ass handed to him by Ganondorf. If Sonic gets above 80% (and honestly, he *should* -- I mean, the character does not exist yet), then Sonic's in okay shape. I think he'll settle somewhere in the middle.

Lightning, beat Sonic?
maybe if you're dumb and stupid
or kleenextissue

transience's prediction: Sonic with 75.91%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Fantastical magic arrives soon!

Ngamer Says: Sonic - 66.78%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Well, I guess I wasn't quite on target with the whole Shadow prediction. Sonic will be different, though! I pretty much said my piece about what I think about Sonic this contest in my Shadow writeup, so instead we'll focus on LIGHTNING.

Lightning was kinda my pet project this year, I was probably the first person to plant the idea in peoples' heads to nominate her, even though it wasn't a full out rally. And it'll be interesting to see how she does despite not having a US release for another 2 months. Though I suppose it'll be hard to say if whatever the result turns out to be is due to Lightning's strength or Sonic's weakness. Regardless of how she does this year, I'm more looking forward to the next character battle when her game is actually out. If there's ever been a new character that might finally be able to reach the level of near-elite/elites, this is it. She's got a good character design and the combined personalities of some of the strongest characters we've seen. I don't think I've heard a single bad thing about her from any of the pepole who have played the Japanese version of FF13. So if FF13 sells well here, look out Link !!


Bracket: Sonic the Hedgehog
Favorites: Lightning
Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 77.77%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/19/2010 9:25:50 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #326
Red Sox’s Analysis

Tonight we have the weakest member of the Noble Nine going up against the heroine of Final Fantasy XIII……which has yet to come out in North America or Europe. Normally, you’d think this would be a crushing win for Sonic, but Sonic characters have looked absolutely awful the past couple of years. In 2008, Sonic lost to Auron and Kirby, in matches that weren’t even close, while Shadow lost to Zidane and Knuckles lost easily to Zelda despite Mario being in the poll. Just yesterday, Shadow lost to Amaterasu in a match that evidently no one on this Crew got right (though I gave it a 45% chance of happening! I wasn’t wrong by miles this time!)

Meanwhile, Square is hyping FFXIII as the biggest FF game since VII, and Lightning was designed as a female version of Cloud, the 2nd strongest character on the site. Once the game comes out, she has potential to be a near-elite and perhaps vie with Sonic, but, the game has not come out in America yet, and Sonic is still a Noble Niner, weakened though he be.

Going through a constant Auron, Sonic 2008 is worth about 41% on Sonic 2006, and Lightning finished close to Axel in the vote-in polls, who got 30% on Megaman in 2006. Of course the vote-in polls are highly unreliable, but there’s no real better way to gauge Lightning’s strength, so I’ll use them here to predict her to get mid-30s on Sonic. She does have the benefit of a night poll, and if you believe it, TJF in the picture.

Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 64%
Upset Chances: 1%
Upper Bound: Sonic with 70%
Lower Bound: Sonic with 58%



Guest’s Analysis - Kotetsu534

Hey folks, I'm here to give a run down on Sonic vs. Lightning. Firstly, obviously, the result isn't in doubt. Sonic is going through; no matter how far he's fallen he ain't losing to a character from a game yet to be released in English. The real attraction of this match is seeing what Sonic is capable of in a 1v1 setting, but what he can reasonably do is very dependent on who's sitting opposite him. Lightning has only been in one poll (the vote-in), in which she put up 9.41%, losing to such titans as Missingno, The Boss and Axel. As such there's little that can be determined apart from "she's weak". Some may argue that FF franchise voting will give her a significant floor, but there's been enough horrid performances from unloved FF characters to suggest she's perfectly capable of dropping like a rock.

So we need to look at Sonic. He's a noble niner, but not exactly respected today. In round one of 08 he put up 36% on Sandbad/Magus/Shepard, which looks particularly unimpressive now that we know how far Magus has fallen from his glory days. Next round he was humbled with little excuse by Auron, and in the quarter-finals he lost limply to Kirby. He has a lot to prove, and it seems unlikely he can do it here; stronger members of the noble nine have failed to demolish apparently weak opposition. Link failed to break 80% on Thrall, and Mega Man X failed to double Price. Given these results, of all the characters one would bet on to score a roaring blowout, it wouldn't be Sonic during the night.

So with that said, what do I conclude? Sonic will win safely, but not unduly impress.

Prediction:

Sonic: 71.04%
Lightning: 28.96%




Crew Consensus: Sonic won’t let his Team down tonight.
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 9:28:01 PM | message detail | filter | #327
Man, if Sonic fails to double Lightning, forget Ganondorf to beat him! I'm jumping on the Knuckles > Sonic bandwagon!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 9:29:37 PM | message detail | filter | #328
Man, I've been pimping Lightning more than all of you combined and somehow I have the highest Sonic prediction.
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 1/19/2010 9:31:18 PM | message detail | filter | #329
red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 9:32:27 PM | message detail | filter | #330
Knuckles > Magus > Sonic

The 2003 stats are INFALLIBLE.
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'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 9:34:54 PM | message detail | filter | #331
Knuckles > Magus > Sonic

The 2003 stats are INFALLIBLE.


You don't need x-stats

Knuckles > Kefka > Pac-Man > Ocelot > Jill > Kirby > Sonic
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss
Ngamer64 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:06:30 PM | message detail | filter | #332
Ngamer's Fantastical Writeup

Aww, Drake couldn't quite get it done. Despite costing me quite a few points though, I find I can't be too mad at him- he put up a very good fight, won updates throughout the day, and heck, this might still be the biggest single season turnaround for a character despite the loss. It'll look especially decent after The Boss uses that diehard MGS fanbase to go out and throttle WCC, whoo! Who's with me guys? ...guys? Well that was a really cool start to the Contest, with 4 debatable matches in the course of just 4 days (in fact I'm going to boldly proclaim these to have been the most entertaining first four days of a Contest EVER! wait, is that bold?). But now it's time to cool things off a bit with a section where for the most part our winners shouldn't be in doubt, starting with a no-doubter of a win by a Noble Niner.

Sonic is going to survive and advance, but the question is, will he leave R1 with his reputation still intact? On paper this seems like an ideal situation for him, considering how less than 5% of the site has played the game his opponent comes from. In the real world though, I think the Blue Blur has got some hurdles to overcome. This isn't just any unreleased game, it's the most anticipated game of the year and arguably the most hyped on this site since Brawl. I'd have to imagine a pretty good chunk of our userbase has looked at screenshots or watched some trailers, either of which probably featured Lightning. (And if you don't think trailers can affect public perception, TP and Brawl would like a word with you!)

Secondly, "Lightning" is just an awesome name for a character, and thirdly she looks fantastic in that match pic. Yowza, I see what they meant about a female Cloud! Most importantly though, the only reason I had to back off the Ammy upset was out of fear of that Sonic day vote. Well, no need to fear it anymore! I'll predict it right now- Sonic's percentage gets hammered during the dead hours in this one. Combine those things with antivotes, and I've got to believe that Lightning has a solid opportunity to avoid the doubling.

Now normally I'd get scared by everyone staying in the low 70s for Sonic and move up a couple percent myself, but I've decided to stick to my "no one really knows what they're doing" guns at least once. Let's see how it pans out for me.

Ngamer Says: Sonic - 66.78%

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:06:49 PM | message detail | filter | #333
I do not hold this one against you guys

wtf Sonic

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:07:58 PM | message detail | filter | #334
Man, I hope Sonic tears through the rest of his division with no problem.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:08:07 PM | message detail | filter | #335
Now normally I'd get scared by everyone staying in the low 70s for Sonic and move up a couple percent myself, but I've decided to stick to my "no one really knows what they're doing" guns at least once. Let's see how it pans out for me.

Well there ya go.

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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/19/2010 11:09:01 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #336
Nathan Drake.......47.63% 33295
The Boss.............52.37% 36615
TOTAL VOTES...................69910


Crew Predictions - 5/8

What Happened: The Boss pulls off the "upset" and beats the overseeded Drake

Why it Happened: Well, Uncharted 2 did boost Nathan...however it just wasn't enough to beat high-fodder like The Boss.

What will Happen: She's probably finished next round, but who knows.



Crew Prediction Challenge - One point for Lopen and I

Moltar - 7
Lopen - 6
Kleenex - 5
Tran - 5
Ngamer - 5
Red Sox - 5
Guest - 4



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Easy point for me!

Moltar - 2
Guest - 2 (Bio: 1, CM: 1)
Ngamer - 1
Kleenex - 1
Lopen - 1
Tran - 0
Red Sox - 0
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Moltar Status: Bracket: The Boss > Drake (6/7)
Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/
Lopen | Posted 1/19/2010 11:09:57 PM | message detail | filter | #337
Eh Sonic probably goes up. But wow that's pretty sad.
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 1/19/2010 11:10:36 PM | message detail | filter | #338

From: KamikazePotato | #333
I do not hold this one against you guys

wtf Sonic


I do! Didn't anyone see Shadow's epic fail? Should've let me be the guest, had Sonic at 63% in Oracle =P.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:11:10 PM | message detail | filter | #339
Why can't we all just assume this is Lightning being strong rather than Sonic failing :(
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Lopen | Posted 1/19/2010 11:12:47 PM | message detail | filter | #340
Kleenex and Tran (possibly me) are really the only ones far enough that it's necessary to hold it against them. The rest of us are off by less than 5%.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 11:19:57 PM | message detail | filter | #341

From: Lopen | #337
Eh Sonic probably goes up. But wow that's pretty sad.


Uhhhh you were saying
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Lopen | Posted 1/19/2010 11:20:12 PM | message detail | filter | #342
Ermmm... well maybe not if Sonic keeps dropping.

Hail Lightning. Lightning for 2k11 champion.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 11:20:59 PM | message detail | filter | #343

From: KleenexTissue50 | #339
Why can't we all just assume this is Lightning being strong rather than Sonic failing :(


cuz thats not as funny
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:46:21 PM | message detail | filter | #344
Haha, "no one really knows what they're doing" guns a'blazin!

But I lowballed Sonic big time, laid out his path to an underperformance perfectly, and even I'm shocked at how this one has started out.

Gosh, I called people "crazy" for thinking Ganon could beat Sonic in a sprite match, but now... could even Pig Ganon hold him back?

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transience | Posted 1/20/2010 5:26:34 AM | message detail | filter | #345
ahahahaha Sonic sucks

what's Balthier projected to get on Sonic? Lightning might be stronger than him already and her game isn't even out!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 7:04:26 AM | message detail | filter | #346

From: transience | #345
ahahahaha Sonic sucks

what's Balthier projected to get on Sonic? Lightning might be stronger than him already and her game isn't even out!


I'd almost guarantee she is.

According to my stats from last year, Sonic gets 72.17% on Balthier. According to char's, he gets 71.28%.
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/20/2010 8:57:34 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #347
Chaos Division: Round 1 - Match 10 – (8) Cecil Harvey vs. (9) Knuckles the Echidna

Moltar’s Analysis

Cecil
Last year, Cecil was stuck with ZackFAQs right off the bat. Can he get farther this time around?

Knuckles
Knuckles back to facing Square characters in Round 1, just like the good old days.

This should be an easy one to call. Cecil has done nothing to show that he is on Knuckles level. In his last 1v1 appearance, Knuckles beat Magus and had a great showing against Squall. Even though that was 5 years ago, Knuckles should still be strong enough now.

Knuckles with 60%...minus 5% for general suckiness from Sonic Team (what the hell sonic)

Moltar’s Bracket: Knuckles > Cecil

Moltar’s Prediction: Cecil: 45% - Knuckles: 55%



Lopen’s Analysis

Sega Mascot vs FF Character

Not much to see here. Like, at all. Not even performance-wise.

I suppose it's possible that FF Character was SFFed to a significant degree by Zack, but personally I don't buy that. However, there's a Dissidia boost waiting in the wings and he didn't do that bad against Kirby that one time with a dreadful picture, and Sega Mascot's franchise has looked pretty bad lately.

I will, once again, be rooting for FF Character, but I don't think Dissidia can make up for his ultimate fodder status. But this is the first time we've seen a Dissidia boost candidate this contest so it'll be interesting to see if it's 4REAL or nothing. (Has the stats topic even been hyping Dissidia? I haven't actually noticed much either way)

Lopen's prediction:
Sega Mascot with 64.14%



Transience’s Analysis

I wish I could write this after seeing how Sonic does, but alas, I have to write it the night before. Cecil is pretty low-tier on the Final Fantasy scale, but he's come a long way since that Kirby match in 2005. He's had a well-received remake and Dissidia, which could possibly push him up to the fodder line. Given that Shadow looks to be around the fodder line these days, it's not completely inconceivable that Knuckles could struggle here.

There is no way in hell that I would bet on it happening though. Knuckles doesn't have the same stigma that Shadow carries: if anything, he's more of a throwback to the old Sonic days instead of the Shadow the Hedgehog days that Shadow himself reminds us of every match. Knuckles should be pretty safe here. He's fallen since his excellent upset in 2005, but he hasn't fallen THAT far.

people like Knuckles
this won't be Shadow part 2
Sonic sits and waits

transience's prediction: Knuckles with 59.31%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Ugh, more Sonic characters. Cecil sucks and Knuckles always makes it to round 2. Not to mention this is a day match, so Cecil get wrecked even harder. Not really sure how the percentages go on this, but I'd be surprised if Knuckles get even close to dropping this match. I'm be happy for sure, because I'm a big Cecil fan, but shocked nevertheless.

Awesome writeup, I know.


Bracket: Knuckles the Echidna
Favorites: Cecil Harvey
Prediction: Knuckles the Echidna with 61.03%



Red Sox’s Analysis

We have another Sonic character in the day battle today. Sonic followed up a string of bad performances by Sonic Team by doing poorly against Lightning today, and so things look bad for Knuckles. Of course his competition is very weak, and Knux shouldn’t really have to worry about actually losing, but he may wind up with an embarrassingly low percentage. Since FFIVDS, FFIV characters have done remarkably well, and Cecil/Kefka may be a debatable match nowadays- Rydia or Kain would probably be favored over Kefka as the strongest Old Square character outside of Chrono Trigger.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 1/20/2010 8:58:13 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #348
Knuckles beat Kefka 57/43 back in 2004. Since then both characters have fallen a long way, and I figure the match results now would probably not be too far off from what they were then. If Cecil can give Kefka a run for his money now, then it stands to reason that he could put up a similar number against Knuckles. It’s true that he only got 25% on Kirby back in 2005, but Kirby was stronger than Knuckles of that year, who was in turn much stronger than Knuckles of today, and Cecil is likely much stronger than he was then. Cecil got 26% against Zack last year, but he may have been SFF'd, and Zack is far stronger than Knuckles these days. The fact that this is a day match should help the old “King of the Day Vote” out somewhat, even though he is no longer number 1 at the day vote, having been displaced by Master Chief and Sora years ago.

Prediction: Knuckles with 58%
Upset Chances: 3%
Upper Bound: Knuckles with 62%
Lower Bound: Knuckles with 54%



Guest’s Analysis - War

Before Sonic/Lightning: http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7644/warwriteup.jpg

After Sonic/Lightning: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cecil with 50.01%



Crew Consensus: Knuckles is the near-unanimous pick…oh Guest…
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 10:09:43 AM | message detail | filter | #349
Darn it Guest, you're ruining the Guest Clan's credibility! Shredder will not stand for this!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2010 10:10:51 AM | message detail | filter | #350
Don't worry Leon, the Crew is almost unanimous for Knuckles, so he must lose.
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