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Game of the Decade Contest Analysis Crew - Part 7
the hilarity of No Mercy/Fire Emblem that wasn't funny --- GranTurisMo - God's Tiniest Man - Great Thorn Monkeys! Member of the merSHINEsess Nation since 7/15/09 |
I
especially don't care for 24 hours of closeness either. Its bad enough
I'm sitting here for hours refreshing a page for the majority of 12
hours, 24 would be the worst kind of overkill and excess. --- No, every man's goal in life is to spread his seed as many times as possible. - A statement Realo actually believes |
the only reason I would go for 24 hours is that I'm never awake for night matches. --- GranTurisMo - God's Tiniest Man - Great Thorn Monkeys! Member of the merSHINEsess Nation since 7/15/09 |
confession I completely forgot about 24 hour matches at this point --- Porre either became an aristocratic mercantile state or a placid direct democracy depending on if the lady who ran an inn was able to serve people beef jerky. |
64 entrants is a terrible idea. Way, way too many snubs and good games that wouldn't get in. --- DFF |
I
don't think too many people would have missed Divisions 1 & 2!
Cutting off another 32 from there wouldn't be too hard, I imagine! --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Division
1 and 2 were the most debated divisions in the entire contest, and
produced the closest matches. I think a lot of people would have missed
them. --- DFF |
12-hour matches were the best idea these contests have seen since they started, I think. --- There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign. |
Plus
uh if Fallout 3 keeps it up, they aren't going to end up looking too
weak in the end. Take a peek at Leon's stats that are already
underrating F3's divisions: Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 50.00% Super Smash Bros. Melee – 48.92% The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess – 47.25% Fallout 3 – 42.37% Metroid Prime – 40.73% Kingdom Hearts II – 40.54% Half-Life 2 – 40.13% Kingdom Hearts – 38.57% God of War – 36.62% Super Mario Galaxy – 35.65% Tales of Symphonia – 35.56% --- DFF |
Fine fine, we can keep Tales of Symphonia. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Tales of Symphonia gets into a 64-game bracket without your bias! It was a 3 Seed! I'm just saying that there's simply too many viable games and characters at this point to limit it to 64. 96, maybe. 128 still seems the best way to do things to me. --- DFF |
I
dunno, I'm just not of the mindset that we need to see every single
game/character with a modicum of strength in the bracket. I'm fine with
snubs. I think we could have had just as good of a bracket if it were
restricted to 64 entrants. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
newcomers and losers only imo --- img184.imageshack.us/img184/7595/lovevk5.gif Joker is sick and twisted and must be stoped at all costed what plans do you have in store for Batman anyway |
Personally I have to think that the more entrants the better. The only advantage I see in going back to the old contest format is that matches are more "legit", and I don't care a dime about those. We don't need to have x-stats and such pulling us the wrong way all the time (for instance, according to the 2009 stats Half-Life 2 gets 52% on God of War and 58% on Metroid Prime. Wow is that so wrong). --- Currently Playing - Zelda: Majora's Mask, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami, StarCraft |
Is multiple matches running simultaneously really that bad? I too, think 128 entrants is the most important thing to keep here. But I wouldn't mind 24 hour timeslots either. |
3-ways... Only winner goes through... 243 entrants... Make it happen... --- Nominate B.B. Hood for CB IX http://miniurl.org/ntI |
128 game battle royale, 1 game eliminated every 12 hours! --- GranTurisMo - God's Tiniest Man - Great Thorn Monkeys! Member of the merSHINEsess Nation since 7/15/09 |
From: GTM | #167 That will be one messy front page... --- Nominate B.B. Hood for CB IX http://miniurl.org/ntI |
I
agree with NGamer. 12 hours matches are one of the best things for the
contests. More entrants, more debated matches and blowouts getting by
quickly. Sure, close matches aren't as long but they're easier to follow
since it's shorter. Personally, I think it's as good a move than
getting rid of real-time updates to 5-minutes ones. --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 12/21/2010 12:40:57 PM | message detail | delete | filter | quote | #170 |
Crew Predictions - 110/124 What Happened: stuff Why it Happened: because What will Happen: Brawl/FFX/MM, all three games have a shot Crew Prediction Challenge - this should be right Tran - 110 Moltar - 108 AKJ - 105 Kleenex - 104 Leon - 104 Lopen - 104 Guest - 100 Crew Accuracy Challenge - this too Moltar - 20 Guest - 18.5 (GfK: 1, BT: 2, CM: 2, Kotetsu: 2, dragon: 1, NGamer: 1, Ultima: 2, TRT: 1, Greyfeld: 1, Mr3790: 1, Big Bob: 0.5, pjbasis: 1, Chris: 2, Luster: 1) Tran - 18.5 AKJ - 17.5 Kleenex - 17.5 Leon - 16 Lopen - 12 --- Moltar Status: 252 Points - Vote: Brawl Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Super Smash Bros. Bomb --- DFF |
AKJ - 17.5 Kleenex - 17.5 crud when did this happen --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
about the same time as AKJ - 105 Kleenex - 104 I think. --- "A board where all the people try hard to be "nice" to each other would be terribly boring, don't you think?" - Vlado |
All Hail David "Transcience" Otunga --- GranTurisMo - God's Tiniest Man - Great Thorn Monkeys! Member of the merSHINEsess Nation since 7/15/09 |
if only I could spell names --- GranTurisMo - God's Tiniest Man - Great Thorn Monkeys! Member of the merSHINEsess Nation since 7/15/09 |
aww yeah, I'm now 2/2 in the Crew Prediction Challenge in game contests --- xyzzy |
grats |
All hail FFX our the Game of the Decade --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Final Four: Round 6 - Match 126 – (1) Final Fantasy X vs. (1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask Moltar’s Analysis Final Fantasy X Round 1 - 77.46% on Viewtiful Joe Round 2 - 70.83% on Borderlands Round 3 - 65.66% on Golden Sun Round 4 - 63.07% on Final Fantasy IX Round 5 - 56.81% on Resident Evil 4 FFX shows RE4 it’s not messing around Majora’s Mask Round 1 - 83.40% on Wii Sports Round 2 - 67.10% on Chrono Cross Round 3 - 55.95% on Pokemon GSC Round 4 - 56.79% on Wind Waker Round 4 - 57.70% on Metal Gear Solid 3 Alright Majora’s Mask, you’re definitely legit. This is looking to be a really good match. FFX is the favorite to win and get to the finals, but one thing we’ve learned from this contest is that this website loves it some Zelda. Majora’s Mask has a real shot of winning this match, depending on how strong you think it is. FFX looks incapable of getting a big win, but when it needs to step up, it steps up. RE4 looked like it had a small chance of getting the upset, and FFX blew it away without a problem. RE4 is pretty darn strong too, and before the contest started, I wouldn’t have taken MM over it (now is a different story). The question for this match isn’t if FFX is strong enough to beat Zelda MM, because it definitely is. The question is if Zelda MM is strong enough to beat FFX. 56% on GSC, WW, and 57%+ on MGS3 is impressive, especially since RE4 and MGS3 were close in strength in 2009. However, MGS hasn’t been looking too hot this contest, and the other two were matches against other Nintendo games. There’s nothing there that says Zelda beats FFX. I would have probably taken TP over FFX if the match were set-up, but I’m not pulling the trigger on MM. Granted, it looks like MM is a lot closer to TP in strength than most people imagined pre-contest. Still, FFX should take this in a close match. Moltar’s Bracket: FFX wins Moltar’s Prediction: FFX - 52% Lopen’s Analysis I figure a good lot of people will give ZELDA a chance here, because, ZELDA. Me? I'm going to give GameFAQs the benefit of a doubt and assume that GameFAQs actually has the sense to prefer Resident Evil 4, a legit contender to Game of the Decade anywhere, to... well.. one of the less well received Zelda games. I mean you can't really be all that convinced of Zelda's strength here... it's had a bunch of SFF matches and a beatdown of a dubious MGS3. Nothing to suggest it's stronger than RE4. ... I probably give the voterbase more credit than it deserves. Lopen's prediction: Final Fantasy X with 58.53% Transience’s Analysis It's time to find out just how legit Majora's Mask is. Its performances have been unreal this contest - 55% on Pokemon, 56% on Wind Waker, 58% on MGS3. That's Twilight Princess-level stuff. TP and FFX are near equals. Could Majora's Mask beat FFX? Absolutely. I mean, it's Zelda. That alone gives one reason to worry. The game has a pretty rabid fanbase as opposed to your average Zelda title which is merely mega-popular with the casuals - this one seems to be popular from all sides. Majora's Mask is going to rock this early vote with FFX and it will be up to FFX to respond. Fortunately it's a 24 hour match so that bracket vote won't mean too much for FFX. Every time a notable Square game goes up against a comparable Nintendo game, the Nintendo game seems to win. That's what worries me here: despite the anti-Nintendo backlash that's currently going on with so much Nintendo dominating, it's still the preferred thing to Square. I don't know if Majora's Mask gets caught up in that wave. |
One
thing sways me on this match: the tougher the match, the better FFX
looks. It's always been like that: in 2004 it failed to double FFTA and
then got 49% on Melee. This year it got 62% on Golden Sun and 57% on
Resident Evil 4. Majora's Mask is stronger than RE4 by a good bit -- I
don't think RE4 and MGS3 are that far apart -- but I just can't abandon
Final Fantasy. Not yet. If FFX can break 54% here, I'll feel pretty good about its chances against Brawl. Again, I don't think Majora is much weaker than TP and Brawl seems to be suffering some kind of backlash today. Let's see. transience's prediction: Final Fantasy X with 52.14% Leon’s Analysis At this point, I’m willing to accept whatever theories people have that will put FFX over Brawl next round, regardless of how ridiculous they are. RE4 the strongest non-Nintendo, non-Square game? Check. KH2 and MGS3 weaker than last year while RE4’s constant? Check. Majora’s Mask = Twilight Princess? Yeah, I’ll even be willing to swallow this one if it means FFX wins. These last 48 hours are PURE FANBOY MODE, so don’t expect any logical writeups from me! Final Fantasy X rolls on, Majora’s Mask no chance. Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: The last time I beat FFX, you know which scene in the ending actually got me the most emotional? When Yuna whistles standing at the dock in Luca. I don’t even know why. That’s never happened before. Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy X. Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy X with 54.45% Kleenex’s Analysis Lucky for us that Brawl decided to disappoint relative to expectations yesterday. This means that whoever wins today has a fighting chance to win the whole thing tomorrow. But who will Brawl face in the finals? Will it be the pre-contest favorite? The game that made the finals in 2009; the game that won the best game of the 00s poll last year? Or will it be ZELDA? Despite the rampant ZELDAFEAR going around (and I admitted I had a bit of it myself the other day!), I'm feeling pretty good about Final Fantasy X today. I think the opening vote is going to be ugly for Tidus and friends, but after seeing what Fallout 3 was able to do over night to Brawl really makes me feel good about Final Fantasy. The fact that Brawl wasn't really able to take advantage of any kind of significant day vote helps out too. I do think that whatever game wins will need to have a meaningful win in order to really have a chance at Brawl tomorrow. I don't particularly which one it is, I just want to see Brawl lose. And I like the game! Kleenex's Prediction: Final Fantasy X with 53.44% Applekidjosh’s Analysis With how well Majora has been doing lately it's easy to forget it's not even a top tier Zelda title, it's just Zelda is THAT STRONG. If there's one thing that can beat a Zelda, though, it's a top tier Final Fantasy... and here we go! Final Fantasy X to the finals! AKJ says FFX > Majora's Mask with 53.00% |
Guest’s Analysis - red sox 777 At the start of the contest, our main contenders were the two Smash games and FFX. We had a more open field of potential winners than usual, but most people expected it would be one of those 3, or perhaps Pokemon GSC. A few brave people said that Majora's Mask could catch lightning as an OOT-proxy, an argument I didn't like because if people treated it that way, they should do that every year. If OOT is their favorite game but they prefer some other game to Majora, they're not going to flip the preference ordering to Majora just because OOT isn't in the contest. Last year's matches convinced me that GSC would beat MM, and I'm still puzzled by it. GSC only lost 53-47 with RBY in the poll, and in this year's 1v1 it lost by more! People have proposed various LFF/SFF mechanics that could make that result possible, but none of them seems particularly convincing to me. But at this point it seems clear nonetheless that Majora's Mask is just flat-out strong. We have two 4-way SFF matches last year saying otherwise (the first of which said nothing all at all really, beyond RBY > MM), and 5 solid 1v1 matches saying that MM is indeed strong this year. And why should it not be strong? Based on last year, FFX looks to be somewhere around the 31-32% area on OOT. How many direct sequels fail to reach that level on their predecessor? Very very very few. Note that this is not the same as MM being an OOT proxy- it may be getting votes from OOT fans, but as long as these OOT fans are consistent in voting for MM, it's just part of its natural strength. I feel that FFX is favored in this match mainly due to expectations. Specifically, there is the idea that the #2 FF should beat the #4 Zelda (although MM may be, and I would take to be, the #3 Zelda). FFX has received a lot of respect for its strength, which has puzzled me greatly over the past 2 years, because I don't see what it has done to deserve it other than step into the role of #2 FF by default after FFVI's fall from grace. Last year it had a string of matches in which it was saved from embarrassment by Nintendo SFF. The OOT/RBY/SSBM/FFX match drives it home- precontest, if you said FFX would only get 37% on OOT with 2 top 10 Nintendo games holding it down, people would have thought it tremendously unlikely, and hugely bad for FFX if it came to pass. Somehow people took FFX managing to beat RBY to mean that things were okay for it- despite the fact that RBY was being held down in Triple LFF! The round after that was the semifinals, and FFX put up the same percentage on OOT as LTTP put up on FFVII the previous day- but FFX had Brawl helping its cause through LFF with OOT, while LTTP was suffering Triple LFF itself from SMW and SMB3! I made a comment that I thought LTTP would get 58% or so on FFX somewhere towards the end of that contest, not expecting much disagreement at all, and was surprised to see a lot of people saying it'd be closer than 55-45 and a number of people saying it'd be in the 52-53% area. You could give FFX the benefit of the doubt in LFF/SFF situations, and presume that the Nintendo games hadn't suffered all that much from it, if it had shown itself to be very strong in other matches, but these other matches do not exist! FFX was never close to LTTP in 2004- and why would a Final Fantasy game do better against a Zelda game now than in 2004? That's precisely opposite to the site-wide trend. Again, if FFX actually had matches, it'd be different, but all I see is people giving it respect because it's become the #2 Final Fantasy thanks to FFVI falling off a cliff. |
Zelda
is stronger than Final Fantasy, and that strength is most felt at the
#2 spot if you match up the games against each other. LTTP won the #2
spot battle back in 2004, when FFVII beat OOT with ease in the #1 spot
matchup, and the #2 spot is still going to be the matchup where Zelda
wins by the most. So getting back to Majora's Mask, the #3 or #4 (if TP
> MM) Zelda can take down the #2 Final Fantasy. I'm not confident
that it will, but it's not going to lose because it's lower on any
hierarchy. So, let's compare what these two games have done in each
round this contest. Round 1: Final Fantasy X > Viewtiful Joe with 77.46% (night) Majora's Mask > Wii Sports 83.4% (night) Advantage: MM. MM > Wii Sports means nothing really due to SFF, but FFX's performance here was quite bad. Matches against fodder mean little, however, so let's not weight this one too heavily. Round 2: Final Fantasy X > Borderlands with 70.83% (night) Majora's Mask > Chrono Cross with 67.1% (night) Advantage: MM. Chrono Cross should be a good deal stronger than Borderlands, and MM had to face it at night, when CC is strong and MM is weak. It still doubled it, and after CC put up 60%+ on Dragon Quest 8 in the first round. Round 3: Final Fantasy X > Golden Sun with 65.66% (night) Majora's Mask > Pokemon GSC with 55.95% (night) Advantage: MM. FFX ended up with a decent performance on Golden Sun, but MM's victory over GSC was terrific. A lot of that 56% is probably SFF, but I doubt FFX would break 53% on GSC. It's hard to tell because of the SFF, but it seems we're at least looking at a close FFX/MM match here. FFX/Golden Sun gives us a nice comparison later with Paper Mario. Round 4: Final Fantasy X > Final Fantasy IX with 63.07% (night) Majora's Mask > Wind Waker with 56.79% (day) Advantage: Inconclusive. Too much SFF. Round 5: Final Fantasy X > Resident Evil 4 with 56.81% (night) Majora's Mask > Metal Gear Solid 3 with 57.7% (day) Advantage: FFX. But narrowly. RE4 and MGS3 were equals last year, but MM had a time zone advantage here, negating its 1% advantage. RE4 has looked good this year while the MGS series has looked bad, which is why FFX gets an advantage in this match. I think the MGS collapse may be overstated, however- MGS3 actually looked more or less fine; it was MGS4 that collapsed. And now we get a nice Paper Mario/Golden Sun comparison too, which requires Paper Mario to be worth approximately 53% on Golden Sun for FFX and MM to be equals. I'd say that's fairly likely based on intuition. So.....FFX is probably my favorite game out of the 3 left, purely as a game, and I'd like to cheer for Square to end the Nintendo domination, but FFX needs to get its comeuppance first. I will be rooting for Majora's Mask to win this contest over FFX and of course the evil Brawl, and save the day with yet another victory for Link and my favorite series the Legend of Zelda. After seeing today's match with Brawl and Fallout 3, I'd say the winner of the FFX/MM match has a great chance at toppling Brawl. Prediction: Majora's Mask with 50.05% Upset Potential: 50% Range: Majora's Mask with 53% to Final Fantasy X with 53% Crew Consensus: Everyone except our Guest is going with FFX |
Guest saves the day! ^_^ --- Dr. Football amputated my bracket from the Guru Contest! |
yikes, that's a wall I almost took Majora today. too much Zeldafear here. --- xyzzy |
Holy red sox --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
f***ing red sox --- "You brought your *****, to the waffle hut?" |
Final Fantasy X vs Majora's Mask FFX has exactly one impressive performance so far this season- Majora has five. Not only that, but each one is more eye popping than the last! I never thought it would be able to top going from being a straight up underdog versus Pokemon yet posting 56%, but it did. 57% on Wind Waker? 58% on the second strongest MGS?! Good gracious! X meanwhile was doing nothing but posting ho hum results in the opening rounds... but that RE4 beatdown, dang. Now I'm a big believer in ZELDAFAQs and I love Nintendo in matchups with Square post-2005, but SOMETHING WEIRD IS GOING ON. No game from this bracket should be able to post that kind of number on SmartVoterFAQs favorite (or so I assumed!) RE4, and even though Majora countered brilliantly in the following 12 hours, this unbelievably good showing for Fallout has thrown me for a loop all over again. Clearly the voters are looking for "something different" here in these final days (so why didn't they vote Resident Evil or Metal Gear Solid? makes no sense!), but whether that will translate into anti-voting the overall bracket favorite or anti-voting Nintendo is impossible to say. In the end I get too much of a "rises to the occasion against the toughest competition" feeling from X though, and so I very reluctantly have to say... Final Fantasy X - 50.33% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
From: Master Moltar | #180 65%, darn it! And that wasn't enough FFX praising, Ngamer! --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
*refreshes poll* Or was it perhaps.... TOO MUCH? --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Majora's Mask is winning this contest. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
No one on this year's crew took FFX with under 52%, I see. I call this a clear victory for ex-crew members. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 2:17:33 AM | message detail No one on this year's crew took FFX with under 52%, I see. I call this a clear victory for ex-crew members. HECK yeah, plus former crewmate yoblazer said Majora with 51%. *high fives all around* --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
lopen you crazy man |
In a just world my prediction would be right --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
sorry, guys, but I can't hear you over this 1100 vote lead and climbing --- xyzzy |
Give Zelda an hour or two, and we'll see some major cutting in action. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
Super Smash Bros. Brawl is winning this contest. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
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The way those trends have been going, the cutting will likely start around 2-3 PM. So... if the next hour is a stall or another close FFX victory, it's in the bag. --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
Okay, so MM needed more than another couple hours. That's fine, just you wait until 10 PM tonight when MM takes the lead! --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
