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Game of the Decade Contest Analysis Crew - Part 6

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LinkMarioSamusmessage detail | filter | #201
Also man this result is painful. The only good point is that I like seeing Twilight Princess do well in these contests. Never understood the hate for that game.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #202
quick what's something you can't spell without LMS
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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #203
Southeast Division: Round 3 - Match 104 – (6) Kingdom Hearts II vs. (2) Kingdom Hearts

Moltar’s Analysis

Kingdom Hearts II
Round 1 - 63.81% on Halo 2
Round 2 - 56.27% on Bioshock

KH2 with an unimpressive showing against Bioshock

Kingdom Hearts
Round 1 - 76.90% on Castlevania: DoS
Round 2 - 66.31% on Modern Warfare 2

The original, on the other hand, does impress.

So I have KH2 in my bracket, not really sure why. I feel this is a complete toss-up match, but here was my justification for picking KH2. KH1 came and went here on GameFAQs. We didn’t really care for it. Just look at how Sora did in his early contest appearances. Then, as soon as 2006 hit and KH2 came out, the game exploded onto GameFAQs. Sora was beasting, Riku was beasting, even freakin’ Kairi won a match. KH2 was the game that put the series on the map at GameFAQs.

Fast-forward to today. These days, both KH games look very strong in their matches. Indirectly, KH1 and KH2 look pretty much even. Now we have to predict how they end up looking directly and I’m still unsure of who to favor here.

Based on what we’ve been seeing, I would say KH is the very, very slight favorite. As we’ve seen several times in this contest, most times the original game is the strongest game in the series. That favors KH1. I also believe that KH1 has looked better than KH2 so far. KH2 beat down Halo 2, but KH1 destroyed Castlevania. KH2 had a bit of trouble with Bioshock, but KH1 wrecked MW2. However, KH did have the advantage of having day matches, so you have to take that into account.

Despite KH2 being the game that helped launch the series on GameFAQs, I think that the fanbase slightly prefers the original more. I’d say that’s as safe as you can get when it comes to this match, but honestly I don’t have a clue.

Moltar’s Bracket: KH2 wins

Moltar’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts - 51%



Lopen’s Analysis

LIGHT LIGHT HEARTS LIGHT HEARTS LIGHT LIGHT

Well, I have no idea who's going to win this. Matches so far haven't really given much of a hint either way. My logic for this match basically boils down to “if two games in a series are by all other indications equal, the original is going to win”

I feel like I'm not giving this match its due, but I just don't know what else to say about it!

Let's go Kingdom Hearts 2!

Lopen's prediction:
Kingdom Hearts with 53.72%



Transience’s Analysis

I am no Kingdom Hearts fan so I have a hell of a time gauging this match. Here's what I know:

- Kingdom Hearts is the first game, which is a major factor. People tend to like the originator more than the sequel that improves things slightly. It sold better, its FAQs get more hits than KH2 and it leans more towards the Disney side of things.

- KH2 is a flawed sequel but is more up GameFAQs' alley - it leans to the Square side of things, from the convoluted plot to the darker atmosphere to original Square characters. Sora went from midcarder to near-elite thanks to this game (supposedly, he's actually likable). It's got a flashier battle system and doesn't have the awful Gummi Ship stuff, but Real Fans seem to think its combat is dumbed down thanks to reaction commands or whatever. Who cares.

These two games seem almost equal stat-wise. KH1 got 66% on a pathetic MW2 (see: Melee's 69% on COD4 the other day) while KH2 only got 55% on the up-and-coming Bioshock. In fourways, KH1 got 47% on FFX in a match nobody trusts, and then 61.4% on Vice City - RE4 got 65% this year. KH2 had a slightly better performance, getting 49.5% on RE4 in round 1 and 48% on TP in round 2. This probably doesn't matter, I'm just showing that they were equal-ish.
Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #204
I'm gonna pick here KH2 here for two reasons: one, because I trust the Square side of this site more than the Disney one, and two, because I think Moltar will pick KH1 and we've had the same picks for like 50 matches in a row. Time to break that tie. KH1 should be the favourite based on the fact that it came first and sold better, but whatever.

transience's prediction: Kingdom Hearts II with 50.42%



Leon’s Analysis

Man, I’m still not sure what to think about this match. I know people seem to be favoring KH1 pretty much across the board at this point, but…I’m still not sure. KH1 got to face two weak games in favorable situations, and so it’s had the opportunity to look better. KH2 had to face BioShock at night, and really, 57% isn’t all that bad. We saw Big Daddy outperform Gordon Freeman last contest, so I’m a believer in BioShock’s strength. Plus, it did manage 64% on Halo 2, which I think is every bit as good as the 66% KH1 put up on MW2, honestly.

So really, I still see this match as a tossup. I don’t think either game has an advantage that I can really see, and I have no idea which way the fanbase leans on this one. KH1 is the “safe” choice, in my opinion (and what I went with in my bracket), but KH2’s chances of winning aren’t really much less than 50/50. Remember, Sora really didn’t become that strong until KH2 hit. That’s not a coincidence (although part of it is that Sora actually becomes LIKEABLE and somewhat cool in KH2, but whatever).

So in the end, this match is essentially impossible to analyze. I think there’s a decent chance that this one could actually end up close because I don’t think the fanbase really clearly prefers one over the other. I haven’t seen any indication whatsoever that they do. I don’t know how anyone could feel confident about it. Well, whatever, I expect everyone else on the Crew to side with KH1, so I’ll just throw my support behind KH2 for the heck of it. I’d rather it win anyway!

Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: Demyx is totally the best member of Organization XIII. DANCE WATER DANCE

Leonhart’s Vote: Kingdom Hearts II.

Leonhart’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts II with 50.50%



Kleenex’s Analysis

The first of the potential inter-series matches that Bacon had set up in this bracket. This one hasn't really gotten all that much talk, I think, probably because it's almost impossible to tell which way the match is going to go. Indirectly, KH1 and KH2 have always been pretty darn close, and nothing that's happened this year has tilted the favor in one direction or the other. It's just going to come down to which game the fanbase prefers more. I have KH2 in my bracket (over Modern Warfare whoops), but I'm actually feeling the original today. Not for any particular reason. I do think that this match will probably be pretty boring, regardless of who wins. Probably a 53/47 type affair. So yeah, gonna go with the original game, and if I get it wrong I'll tell Moltar that I mistyped and meant to add a 2 after it.

Kleenex's Prediction: Kingdom Hearts with 52.88%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

this match. This ****in match. There's literally no way to be sure, it's an absolute ball buster.

Kingdom Hearts:
came first
gets less flak for being ridiculous

Kingdom Hearts 2:
better gameplay
more involved story and cameos

I've got KH2 in my bracket, and I really hope it wins, but I've been feeling KH for awhile now. I've got to go against my bracket here.

AKJ says Kingdom Hearts > Kingdom Hearts 2 with 52.00%



Crew Consensus: We don’t know, but we’re favoring the original 4-2
GTMmessage detail | filter | #205
someone grab the guest spot
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #206
tranny and I got dis
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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #207
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KH2 > KH1
Brawl > Melee

THAT IS ALL

KAS says: KH2 wins with 50.01%
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th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #208
Emergency Guest Analysis

Kingdom Hearts part 2 -
loved by many but not the
series' first. too bad

Kingdom Hearts - 52.02%
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th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #209
dammit KoolAid
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PartOfYourWorldmessage detail | filter | #210
Attention Whoring Third Analyst

Roses are red
violets are blue
This match pic matters
The Gummi Ship does too

Kingdom Hearts II - 52%

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-LusterSoldier-message detail | filter | #211
XD at yoblazer's analysis.
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GTMmessage detail | filter | #212
Analysis by Someone who doesn't know percents

KH2 is gonna blow stuff up

KH2 with 85%
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #213

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #207
Surprise Black Guest - KoolAidShoto

KH2 > KH1
Brawl > Melee

THAT IS ALL

KAS says: KH2 wins with 50.01%


I LIKE THIS GUY

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th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #214
because he doesn't diminish your chances at an accuracy point, right? >_>
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DpObliVionmessage detail | filter | #215
Kingdom Hearts imo

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GTMmessage detail | filter | #216
wait till the kids come home and makes it 85%
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #217
Well, at least I was right about one thing. There was no clear leaning from the fanbase about which game is better.
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transciencemessage detail | filter | #218
I'm probably nuts, but I feel like KH1 takes the day vote thanks to bring more Disney-ish than Square.

cool that KH2 is hanging in there though. MELEE YOU'RE NEXT
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #219
transciencemessage detail | filter | #220
looks like I was wrong! I wouldn't call this until a comeback is impossible though. this is not a normal match.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #221
Yeah, this match is crazy. I like KH2 still though. Just had its best hour of the match there.
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transciencemessage detail | filter | #222
yeah it's a big favorite obviously. I just don't feel safe, probably because I have 2 and it's a match that should put me high on the leaderboard!

man, if I had taken Halo like I should have, I could have been #1. oh well.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #223
Aw yeah, I get to gain a point on nearly everyone and get a free accuracy point

Good day
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #224
Man I don't think there has been a crew split on a close match this year where I've been on the right side.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #225
Hint: Pick Brawl
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Ngamer64message detail | filter | #226
So proud of KH2 right now.

*tears up a little bit*


More importantly though,

LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/10/2010 7:52:03 AM | message detail
@Ngamer: Just to inform you, IGN's Top 100 PS2 Games list had KH2 at #73 and KH1 at #7. KH2 the better game yeah right.
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transience | Posted 12/10/2010 8:00:01 AM | message detail
take that, Ngamer
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transientsmessage detail | filter | #227
take that, Moltar
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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #228
South Division: Round 3 - Match 105 – (1) Final Fantasy X vs. (5) Golden Sun

Moltar’s Analysis

Final Fantasy X
Round 1 - 77.46% on Viewtiful Joe
Round 2 - 70.83% on Borderlands

FFX really doesn’t want to win this contest

Golden Sun
Round 1 - 68.24% on Ratchet and Clank: UYA
Round 2 - 53.69% on Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Golden Sun with a Golden upset

Golden Sun looking great, FFX looking not so great, this should be a decent showing for GS.

It’s not going to win or anything, but if it can keep FFX in the low 60s, that would be pretty impressive. Breaking 40% would really be something.

Moltar’s Bracket: FFX wins

Moltar’s Prediction: FFX - 63%



Lopen’s Analysis

Easy mode. Final Fantasy winz

Lopen's prediction:
Final Fantasy X with 63.66%



Transience’s Analysis

We finally get a real chance to gauge FFX here. Borderlands and Viewtiful Joe could be anywhere, but Golden Sun has cemented itself by putting 53% on GTA. We know what GTA is worth for the most part. FFX will be doing awesome if it doubles GS here.

I have a hard time giving GS much credit here. I think it's a decently strong Nintendo RPG a la Paper Mario or TOS, but at the same time, I can't see too many people siding with it over the 'real' RPG in FFX. The main thing FFX struggles with is that there's a contingent of this site that will never like RPGs so they vote for the opponent. There's no such option here.

Stats probably predict a 62-38 or 63-37 win here. I'm gonna go a little higher. Call it RPG SFF if you want - I think of it more as Golden Sun facing a game people actually like.

transience's prediction: Final Fantasy X with 64.64%



Leon’s Analysis

I’m not really sure what to make of this match. Yeah, Golden Sun proved it has some strength around here by beating San Andreas handily, but it’s an RPG going up against the strongest RPG in the contest. Yeah, I know it’s a Nintendo RPG, but part of me wonders if a high FFX number here would be legit or not. Eh, there probably won’t be much of any SFF in this one. Either way, I’m not sure what a good number for FFX would be here. 70% is out of the realm of “reasonable” sans some weird RPG SFF since I don’t think Golden Sun or San Andreas would lose to Borderlands. That’d be a pretty awesome performance if FFX did manage that though! I guess mid-60s would be about right here. Let’s go with that.

Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: Darn it, I actually like the Laughing Scene! And J.A. Taylor did a good job as Tidus’s voice actor! And it’s “Tee-dus!”

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy X.

Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy X with 64.44%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Golden Sun has done well for itself to get this far - the game's legit, and now that people are going to stop underestimating it, it means that Isaac will probably tank next year or something. Anyway, this could be a fun match if FFX decides to flop all over the place, and it might. You'd think that two jRPGs released in the same year would probably cause some major SFF, but the fanbases are likely about as different as they could be given those facts. So yeah, maybe FFX drops the ball, but Golden Sun can't win this. Might look respectable though.

Kleenex's Prediction: Final Fantasy X with 64.77%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

Going from a toss up match to an incredibly obvious one, great times. Golden Sun is going to make FFX look like a contest winner tonight, book it!

AKJ says FFX > Golden Sun with 68%



Crew Consensus: FFX is the stronger RPG
AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #229
lmao all the 64s

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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #230
Wait, I'm not even in the upper half of FFX predictions?

Time to jump up my prediction 5%
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #231
Those are some pretty low predictions for what might become a semi-ugly SFF affair.

I hope it doesn't but you never know.

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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #232
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FFX or GS? C'mon, too easy

KAS says:
FFX > GS with 63.99%
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #233
I don't think many of us are expecting RPG SFF here.

But even if FFX hits 75% here, you won't hear me calling for it!
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #234
yeah there's no SFF here because FFX is actually a good game, golden sun doesn't have a fanbase to share!

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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #235
do ho ho

But seriously. Setting SA=VC means Golden Sun get 37% on RE4. People here still seem to think that FFX is out of RE4's league, so you go higher. Than you remember that GS probably overperformed against SA, so you go higher. Then you remember it being a night match, and you go higher. And that's before SFF.

All I'm saying is that if FFX just comes out and gets 68%+, let's not go too crazy here.

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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #236
Don't worry. Regardless of percentage, I will find some way to spin it into a contest-winning performance!
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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #237

From: KamikazePotato | #234
do ho ho

But seriously. Setting SA=VC means Golden Sun get 37% on RE4. People here still seem to think that FFX is out of RE4's league, so you go higher. Than you remember that GS probably overperformed against SA, so you go higher. Then you remember it being a night match, and you go higher. And that's before SFF.

All I'm saying is that if FFX just comes out and gets 68%+, let's not go too crazy here.


Got my RE4 > FFX spinning reasons in check, I see
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transientsmessage detail | filter | #238
if FFX gets 68%, call it the favourite over RE4. period.

I keep hearing about this FFX night vote, but I've yet to see a good instance of it.
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Ngamer64message detail | filter | #239
Final Fantasy X vs Golden Sun

Prove me wrong, Golden Sun!

Final Fantasy X - 64.59%

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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #240
ffx > brawl in the contest finals obv.

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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #241
You remember all those things I said?

False alarm best match ever

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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #242
Aw man I went too high. Bummer!
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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #243
Crew Predictions - 93/104

What Happened: Zelda beats Mario and sequel > original

Why it Happened: TP was stronger than Galaxy, and proved that with a Link/Mario-esque beatdown on Galaxy. Then, in a match that started off dead even, the ASV allowed for KH2 to beat the original. KH2 making all the KH characters relevant on GameFAQs was no fluke indeed.

What will Happen: TP/KH2 is a match we've seen before, but it should still be a close one.

Crew Prediction Challenge - congrats tranny
Tran - 93
Moltar - 92
AKJ - 89
Kleenex - 89
Leon - 89
Lopen - 87
Guest - 84



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Tran gets the point for TP and Leon gets the point for KH2.

Guest - 17.5 (GfK: 1, BT: 2, CM: 2, Kotetsu: 2, dragon: 1, NGamer: 1, Ultima: 2, TRT: 1, Greyfeld: 1, Mr3790: 1, Big Bob: 0.5, pjbasis: 1, Chris: 1, Luster: 1)
Moltar - 17
Tran - 16.5
Kleenex - 13.5
Leon - 14
AKJ - 12.5
Lopen - 9
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #244
hey I want some congratulations, too!

I'm now tied for second place and I'm still somehow below Kleenex in the Accuracy Challenge despite having more points!
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #245
Tied for third, rather.

Soon to be second...!
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #246
Arg maybe this match is going to suck after all. Had a feeling that night vote was going to suck.

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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #247
argh leon pulling away in accuracy

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transiencemessage detail | filter | #248
Golden Sun a power hour game -- makes sense. if FF10 gets past RE4, the GSC and Smash matches are going to be downright hilarious.

this match is going pretty much as expected and yet I feel like it's an awful performance. I don't get it.
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Kotetsu534message detail | filter | #249
Whoops, forgot to send in my analysis. I predicted 62.8%, so probably no harm done.

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South Division: Round 3 - Match 106 – (3) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic vs. (2) Final Fantasy IX

Moltar’s Analysis

Star Wars KOTOR
Round 1 - 58.05% on Devil May Cry
Round 2 - 60.63% on Fire Emblem

KOTOR looking fine

Final Fantasy IX
Round 1 - 75.19% on Phoenix Wright 3
Round 2 - 68.87% on Persona 3

Will FF9 go 3 for 3? (get it)

This should be easy enough. KOTOR is a game with decent strength, but FF9 looks to be one step ahead. This is also a day match, which would help out pretty much any game in the contest against FF9.

I expect KOTOR to look alright, but I don’t see it pulling off the upset.

Moltar’s Bracket: FFIX wins

Moltar’s Prediction: FFIX - 55%



Lopen’s Analysis

Easy mode. Final Fantasy winz

Okay not quite as easy. I think KotoR is gonna look good mostly cause I'm not 100% convinced on FFIX being too legit... thing didn't do all that great against the two fodders it fought earlier in the contest, and everyone not named Vivi from that game is a joke.

IX should still win but maybe some people will get scared for a bit.

Lopen's prediction:
Final Fantasy IX with 53.66%



Transience’s Analysis

We ***finally*** get to see FF9 in action for real. This game has been screwed so many times and has had crap opponents so far this year. Now it gets something proven in KOTOR, and not only that, it's got a major disadvantage getting a day match vs. an Xbox game. KOTOR has done well for itself - 60% on Fire Emblem, 57% on Devil May Cry. That's pretty good. It's definitely legit.

There's some concern here that FF9 is this hoax propped up by the Final Fantasy name. FF9 has never shown the strength of an FF8 or an FF10. It probably doesn't lose here, but I could see KOTOR making a run at it. If FF9 can push 60% here then I'll conclude that it's a strong game obscured by getting the worst possible opponents. I don't think it does that though, not even close.

transience's prediction: Final Fantasy IX with 55.69%