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Game of the Decade Contest Analysis Crew - Part 5

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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #401
Kleenex’s Analysis

This could end up being a fun upset. Again, MGS has been pretty mediocre (unless MGS4 changed that last night), and SotC managed to pull strength from somewhere. Much like yesterday, however, I think this is another case of the Metal Gear game being just a little too far ahead of its opponent's range in order to allow an upset.

Kleenex's Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 2 with 55.78%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

Man Shadow of the Colossus got a good first round matchup. I wish it was going to get blasted worse than it will, but unfortunately MGS2 isn't the fan favorite for some reason. I don't know, something about not playing as Snake? Whatever. The point is this is the Metal Gear division for a reason, SotC doesn't have a shot.

AKJ says MGS2 > SotC with 54%



Guest’s Analysis - UltimaterializerX

I promised Big Bob I'd be 100% fair about this match, even though I was planning on doing that anyway.

MGS2 is the favorite, but I don't think it's a favorite by all that much. Yes we can line up the first round and know this, and yes Banjo-Tooie would probably annihilate The Sims in a direct match -- so both matches having an equal percentage bodes badly for Shadow of the Colossus.

However, there's two things being unsaid (well maybe other Crew people have brought them up, but I know from experience these guys don't collaborate ahead of time). One is how mediocre the MGS series has looked this contest. 2, 3 and 4 did nothing to impress me, and if there's going to be an upset it'll happen either in this match or with Diablo 2 beating MGS4. 3's path is set in stone. And yes I wrote this before the MGS4/D2 match so apologies there.

Can SotC win this? Definitely, yes. It and RE4 are the two games here that have the whole "Game of the Decade" voting advantage going for them, maybe Portal if we're loose with the definition. Will it win? Probably not, though I won't be surprised if it does. The Banjo/Sims comparison is too hard to overlook, but something weird might happen anyway.

PREDIX: MGS2 with 53%.



Crew Consensus: MGS2 sweep.
LinkMarioSamusmessage detail | filter | #402
Is it embarassing that I want to see MGS2 break 60% to trigger the wrath of the SotC fanbase? Seriously, worst guys ever. They complain that SotC is art and that it doesn't deserve to be losing to games that it loses to because "IT IS ART!!!", and last year they did that (from what I heard) when SotC was against one of the games primarily cited as a video game with artistic qualities (Resident Evil 4 for those of you keeping track). I want to see SotC face off against HL2, Okami, or something like that for the same reason. Actually now that I think about it SotC/Okami would be a good match.
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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #403
You guys are forgetting that MGS2 SFFs SotC in the whole "zomg its art its deep I write 10,000 word essay on the symbolism" genre.
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Big Bobmessage detail | filter | #404
Ulti with the lowest MGS2 prediction? I applaud you, sir.
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transiencemessage detail | filter | #405
my prediction seems kind of wrong
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #406
We've all suspected that Josh and tran were the same person for year, but now we have actual proof.
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #407
years
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pjbasismessage detail | filter | #408
caught!

Anyways, can I send you a new/altered guest analysis Moltar?

I kinda mentioned a certain game being very overrated, and I don't want to look like an ass now.
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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #410
whoops



Transience’s Analysis

By the round 1 numbers, SOTC has a real shot here. SOTC got the same percentage on The Sims as MGS2 got on Banjo Tooie. MGS2 has been disappointing in every poll it's been in over the past 5 years. MGS2 being the third MGS game in 48 hours probably hurts it, too. People are tired of these damn MGS games.

I want to give this one to SOTC. It's just a bigger game for a lot of people. It is regularly listed by the media as the best PS2 game and is one of the most influential titles on the system thanks to its scale and draw distance. It's also much more popular than you'd think: it sold about a million copies and the next game from Team ICO is one of the three most hyped PS3 titles around. It might be #1, actually.

MGS2... I don't know. I want to pick against it but I don't trust GameFAQs to abandon a top 5 series for an art game. MGS2 is an art game too (though I personally feel that Kojima went out of its way to troll MGS fans as much as he could) but.. yeah, GameFAQs sucks at trying out new things. By the numbers MGS2 kills SOTC and that's probably what happens here, but I have this weird bit of hope that we could actually try something new for once. Let's see!

transience's prediction: Metal Gear Solid 2 with 54.85%

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Ngamer64message detail | filter | #411
Reading too much into Internet “is it art” elitists, and this is understandable because they are very loud, might make you think that SotC has a chance. This is a mistake.

Whoooooooooops! Isn't this the guy we hired to CALL exactly these kind of "longshot" upset?

*shakes head in disgust*


Actually, Diablo 2 > MGS2 sounds pretty good to me right about now!

Can't disagree with this.

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transciencemessage detail | filter | #413
this is a pretty awesome result. sure, mgs2 probably wins and I don't even like sotc that much, but it's cool to see GameFAQs accept something new.
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GTMmessage detail | filter | #414
Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: Is it bad that I almost want Shadow of the Colossus to win this match just to see Ulti’s reaction?

That's cheating! A line like that could be used in the analysis itself!
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #415

From: GTM | #414
Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: Is it bad that I almost want Shadow of the Colossus to win this match just to see Ulti’s reaction?

That's cheating! A line like that could be used in the analysis itself!


Well, it is somewhat embarrassing considering I prefer MGS2, and it's embarrassing to root for a result just so someone else gets riled up!

But I'll give you an actual game-related one to compensate!

Let's see...In the part where you have to protect Emma with the sniper rifle, I always call Snake as soon as he's available and let him do all the dirty work.
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #416
okay just getting to a computer for the first time since last night, I did not expect to place a vote for MGS2 and see it was down by 2 goddamn votes lmao what is this insanity
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #417
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ZFSmessage detail | filter | #418
excellence

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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #419
clearly people are taking hype and critical success into account more than the games actually being good
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #420

From: AppIekidjosh | #419
clearly people are taking hype and critical success into account more than the games actually being good


...Which game are you talking about?
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #421
Well considering MGS2 is the only good game here I would think that's obvious.
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ZFSmessage detail | filter | #422
Sounds like SOTC haters.

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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #423
aw yeah Lopen
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transciencemessage detail | filter | #424
funny, I thought mgs2 was the better reviewed game of the two
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #425

From: transcience | #424
funny, I thought mgs2 was the better reviewed game of the two


Was it? I always hear SotC in discussions about "Video games are art!" and stuff like that
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #426

From: AppIekidjosh | #425
Was it? I always hear SotC in discussions about "Video games are art!" and stuff like that


Yes, but thankfully, most of these people don't write video game reviews!
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #427

From: transcience | #424
funny, I thought mgs2 was the better reviewed game of the two


Well when one game deserves a 1 and gets an 8 and another deserves a 10 and gets a 9 I'd call the former better reviewed even if the latter got the higher score.

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I'll be here all day!
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #428
As the party at my house was dying down last night someone brought up Ico and then someone else mentioned Shadow of the Colossus. They looked at me and were asking if I played them and, for the first time ever, I said "I don't really play games that much."

It was at that moment I realized I am now old.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #429
And these are the people Moltar allows on the Crew, a bunch of old geezers who don't really play games that much.
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transciencemessage detail | filter | #430
Lopen seems sightly grouchy about mgs2 losing!

spoilers dmc3 sucked too
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transciencemessage detail | filter | #431
(though I do think that we are, on average, a bunch of old geezers who miss the good old 90s days and whine endlessly about the time when Square and Nintendo were good)
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #432
I play more games than the rest of the Crew combined!
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transciencemessage detail | filter | #433
bust out that top 10 list! 90s zone
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #434
Who cares about the 90s I've got like 1 game from the 90s in my top 30

It's all about the PS2 and afterwards

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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #435

From: transcience | #433
bust out that top 10 list! 90s zone


I think over half my top 10 is post-2000!


...nevermind that the top 3 are pre-2000
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #436
My top 10 is actually pretty varied!

1993, 1998, 1991, 1996, 2000, 2006, 2008, 2004, 1993, 1996
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #437
I think about half of my top 10 would contain games from the past decade!
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #438
Well more like 4 games

But yeah you old codgers need to GET WITH THE TIMES

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transciencemessage detail | filter | #439
yeah that's why we're on the crew and you're not
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ZFSmessage detail | filter | #440
Hell yeah 00s > 90s

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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #441
I mean, if you're gonna make fun of me for something it should be the ridiculous RPG bias, not the 90s bias!
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #442
No such thing as ridiculous RPG bias!

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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #443

From: The Mana Sword | #441
I mean, if you're gonna make fun of me for something it should be the ridiculous RPG bias, not the 90s bias!


RPGs and platformers forever
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ZFSmessage detail | filter | #444
platformers gross

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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #445
strategy games and western RPGs!
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #446

From: ZFS | #443
platformers gross


Assassin's Creed, Prince of Persia, and Uncharted are pretty much modern-day platformers, so...

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ZFSmessage detail | filter | #447
Not at all. Those are the very definition of action-adventure games, not platformers. Modern-day platformers are games like Ratchet & Clank and Mario Galaxy.

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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #448
strategy games no thanks
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #449
Pfft I'm more annoyed that SotC is winning than MGS2 is losing here!

Though thinking about it Metroid Prime is a pretty bad game too!
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #450

From: ZFS | #447
Modern-day platformers are games like Ratchet & Clank and Mario Galaxy.


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