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Game of the Decade Contest Analysis Crew - Part 5
Plants
vs. Zombies > F-Zero GX seems entirely within the realm of
possibility. F-Zero is everything that this site would not care about
(difficult game, hardcore game in a genre this site shuns), moreso than
PvZ is. Also, hasn't F-Zero the series lost to stuff like Need for
Speed the series in polls on this very site? I think I WOULD take Mass Effect over Final Fantasy XII now, albeit mostly due to weakness on FFXII's part. --- Currently Playing - Zelda: Majora's Mask Next Games Up - Super Smash Bros. Melee, Resident Evil 4, Okami |
Catch up time! Mass Effect vs Skies of Arcadia Hmmm, not too much to say about this poll considering I've already covered that Mass Effect is a little better than it looked in R1 (there hasn't been much joke voting this season, but PvZ's the perfect candidate) but is still a step below ME2, the game I would pick as 2010 GotY on this site if that award was decided through 1v1 matches. The only really notable thing about the R1s for these two was Arcadia's stunning collapse in that Night Match. Or at least it WOULD have been stunning, except that we had all expected SoA to be awful in the first place... but still, look at this atrocity! http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=4115&type=2&seconds=420 This time around Arcadia gets to avoid the dreaded night vote, but that's probably a disadvantage in this case since I assume Mass Effect's appeal is fairly North America-centric and it'll be at its best in the Day. I'd be very surprised to see it manage the doubling in this one since as we've seen all year, jRPGs with any kind of a fanbase are no pushover on this site, but I'd be equally surprised to see ME flop completely and finish in the 50s. So lets cut it right up the middle with something like Mass Effect - 63.53% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
more guest sign-ups going up very soon --- Moltar Status: 96 Points - Vote: Mass Effect Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
West Division: Round 2 - Match 89 – (1) Metal Gear Solid 3 vs. (8) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 Moltar’s Analysis Metal Gear Solid 3 Round 1 - 76.85% on Timesplitters 2 Strong start for MGS3 MvC2 Round 1 - 51.56% on New Super Mario Bros. Wii shoutouts to haagen-dazs Wii games suck not Brawl or TP suck, which is why MvC2 managed to win last round. MGS3...doesn’t suck at all. After watching Uncharted 2 rock SF4, I think it’s safe to say that there hasn’t been some fighting game resurgence on GameFAQs, those two games just got weak opponents in Round 1. MGS3 is going to bust out a Magneto/Sentinel/Storm-level beatdown here. Moltar’s Bracket: MGS3 wins Moltar’s Prediction: MGS3 - 65% Lopen’s Analysis Obvious winner, but I guess this match will be interesting to gauge MGS3's strength... or MvC2's if you're into that. Though since MvC2 is fairly unknown (it beat a Mario game so it can't be that weak, but it was NSBWii) who can say what any percentage will mean here. I'm gonna lean towards MvC2 having a slight bit of strength to it. Lopen's prediction: MGS3 with 59.61% Transience’s Analysis MVC2 beat a Mario game, but it's not exactly a monster. At its strongest, it's around Dragon Age in strength which is the ultimate definition of a midcard game. It could be a lot worse, too. NSMB Wii is just not that great. MGS3... well, it did fine in round 1. It had a hell of a time blowing average opponents out in round 3, but it also was right there with RE4 last year. We'll see. transience's prediction: Metal Gear Solid 3 with 63.56% |
Leon’s Analysis So far, everything’s gone about as I expected for the three MGS games. MGS3 got to beat up on some weak game last round, so we didn’t really get a solid read on it. We’ll get a bit better read on it here. MvC2 scored a big upset by beating NSMBWii last round, but that speaks more to NSMBWii’s weakness than it does to MvC2’s strength. We already knew it was going to be weak, but I was kinda surprised it managed to lose a close day match against a game that should’ve been night-oriented. I still don’t really think MGS3 is the favorite to win this division despite what happened last round, but it can change my mind with a dominant performance here. Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I was always bad at interrogation with CQC in MGS3. I pushed down too hard and usually ended up slitting their throats. Whoops. Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid 3. Leonhart’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 3 with 62.85% Kleenex’s Analysis More boring. Metal Gear Solid 3 wins, though I must admit, I'm interested to see how well Marvel can actually do here. After last round it seems like it's legit to some extent, so maybe it'll put up a bit of a fight tonight. Gotta do something to knock MGS3 down a notch or two, or else we risk MGS3/MGS4 being a snoozefest too. Kleenex's Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 3 with 63.56% Applekidjosh’s Analysis Well Marvel vs Capcom, you surprised me in the first round but that's all the surprising you'll be doing in this contest. It's time for the last of our 2d fighters to fall. MGS3 tripled Timesplitters, plus it's a night match which I have to assume means good things for Metal Gear. CQC time. AKJ says MGS3 > MvC2 with 66.66% Guest’s Analysis - Ultimaphazon One of the few matches in the contest where I've played, and even nominated both games. I'm not even sure which game I'm going to vote here, I love both. Last round, Marvel 2 shocked all of Board 8 by pulling off one of the biggest first round upsets ever. Spoilers: it won't pull that stunt a second time. Metal Gear Solid 3 did as expected against Timesplitters 2 and scored an easy 77% win. Marvel should be stronger than Timeplitterrs, but it's not THAT strong. Marvel's win last round was more NSMBWii sucking than a real display of strength. This will probably end around a doubling. Prediction: Snaaaaaake Eaaaater > Behold! OPTIC BLAST with 67.10% Crew Consensus: MGS3 KOs MvC2 |
transience get out of my head --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
what the 63.56 --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/applekidjosh <Die the death>! <Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is the death>!! |
Metal Gear Solid 3 vs Marvel vs Capcom 2 Congrats to MvC2 on what is still one of the wackiest R1 upsets ever, in my mind, but now let's see what trends it took advantage of to make that happen. Dislike for Wii offerings post-2007, dislike for platformers post-Mario 64, preference for nostalgia versus recent releases, improved critical acclaim/importance/GotDness versus its opponent. Pretty cool, but... none of that's going to help against MGS3! (Except possibly for a small nostalgia boost.) The only trend still in MvC's favor is The Rise of Fighting Games, but after what Uncharted did to Street Fighter, even that is looking a little shaky. So yeah, MGS is going to cruise to a comfortable win, but how comfortable will it be? This might end up closer than you think, since Marvel is a strong Night Vote challenger that could very well- you know what, actually I should look this up. WHAT? New Mario did 9% better in Europe than NA? Whatever happened to that being the "lol Wii" continent? Alright fine, then I guess this one might get pretty ugly, since we all know how the MGS is the King of the... crap, guess I should actually look this up as well. UGH, Snake Eater did 7% better in NA than Europe? Whatever happened that continent being "The Land of Playstation"? Well anyways, Metal Gear should have enough of a Euro/Asia advantage to recover percentage even if 3 gets out to a slow start in this one, so I'll aim a little bit high and go with Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - 64.47% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Finally caught up with these. Cool, I got a point --- This space for rent. |
man, another mediocre MGS performance. even if Pokemon flops, I'm pretty sure the Zeldas would slam the MGS king. --- xyzzy |
MGS3 bombing, screwed against MGS4 until MGS4's inevitable flop --- DFF |
MGS a fourway king suddenly Snake's boost makes sense --- xyzzy |
every ounce of MGS strength comes from Smash Bros imhhhho --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/applekidjosh <Die the death>! <Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is the death>!! |
I would almost be willing to believe that, given the site we're on! --- There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign. |
Posting what I have since I may miss the start of the match West Division: Round 2 - Match 90 – (5) Paper Mario vs. (4) World of WarCraft Moltar’s Analysis Paper Mario Round 1 - 72.14% on Katamari Damacy Katamari literally getting rolled WoW Round 1 - 58.55% on Animal Crossing Even the anti-votes couldn’t get WoW to lose this one. You could debate this match pre-contest based on what happened in 2009, but now? This is too easy. Both Paper Mario games looked great while WoW couldn’t break 60% against Animal Crossing. Factor in that Paper Mario is a loved Nintendo series (unlike Animal Crossing) whereas a good chunk of the site flat out hates WoW, and this match shouldn’t be in question. Moltar’s Bracket: Paper Mario wins Moltar’s Prediction: Paper Mario - 60% Transience’s Analysis It's tough to find a way for World of Warcraft to win this outside of a rally. There's a lot of hype for the new WOW expansion, but most of that hype is missing our site. Warcraft doesn't have the playrate nor the adoration needed to take down a Mario RPG. Paper Mario is the worst matchup for Warcraft. It's a Nintendo game that's an RPG. We hit both major demographics and while they don't love the game, it's liked enough that a mixed response game like World of Warcraft is going to have trouble standing up to it. Combine that with Paper Mario's superior performance in round 1 and this should be a Portal-esque blowout. Like with FF12, there's nothing that suggests Warcraft can compete here. transience's prediction: Paper Mario with 58.89% Leon’s Analysis You know, it’s kind of surprising that the only Mario games that really looked good last round were the Paper Mario games. This game definitely looks stronger than when we saw it last Games Contest, so perhaps there was a decent bit of LFF between it and Metroid Prime after all. Of course, tripling Katamari Damacy doesn’t tell us too much, but it’s still pretty impressive, all things considered (Still, Katamari Damacy vs. Beyond Good & Evil: Who you got?). World of Warcraft didn’t really look all that impressive last round. I know some people were hyping an upset against Animal Crossing, but I didn’t think that was very realistic. Regardless, I don’t really think Animal Crossing is a very strong game. There’s no way Paper Mario comes anywhere close to losing that match, so I think I have to give it the edge here. World of Warcraft can still win this one, don’t get me wrong. I just think it’s an uphill battle for it. Still, having a night match is probably the one major advantage WoW has here, so maybe it can use it to win. We’ll see. Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I consider the final boss fight of Paper Mario to be one of the most epic in gaming. Atmosphere, man. Leonhart’s Vote: Paper Mario. Leonhart’s Prediction: Paper Mario with 55.44% Kleenex’s Analysis I'm hesitant to call this match boring, but it's probably going to end up being that way. Paper Mario just did far too well last round, even if it was Katamari. I'm not actually sure if WoW is more of a night game or a day game, but I imagine that Mario's probably got the advantage in this case. I suppose a rally or something could happen, but I get the feeling that the WoW players really don't give a crap, so I'm expecting a pretty easy win for Mario. Kleenex's Prediction: Paper Mario with 58.77% Crew Consensus: Paper Mario with an easy win --- Moltar Status: 96 Points - Vote: Mass Effect Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
So...MvC2 vs. AC1: Who you got? This isn't that bad of a showing for MGS3. MvC2 is surprisingly decent, and MGS3 is strong, but not THAT strong. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
From: transience | #362 Also, Snake beat Seph and got better on Cloud than Samus 1-on-1! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
who knows. ac1 is more notable but mvc2's one of those unusually popular old games from this site's glory years. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Paper Mario vs World of Warcraft KP is getting pretty upset at us for continuing to bash him over his "WoW > PM w/ 60%" prediction, so I promised not to mention it (or how indefensible I've felt it was from day one) in this writeup. Fortunately for him I'm a man of my word! I think by now we all know the drill when it comes to World of WarCraft- impossible to take below 20%, very difficult to knock out of a 4way, awful in a 1v1 since 60% of the site wants nothing to do with it. The two theories that were supposed to save it were SmartVoterFAQs in terms of being the #1 most successful/important game of the decade and RallyFAQs in terms of a huge world-changing patch was just applied and an expansion is about to drop; WoW's hotter than its been in years and it'll be easy to stir up fanboy support! I'm expecting the first theory to earn an "ehhh" (voters don't give you credit for influence if they think it's a negative influence!) and the second a "meh" (I could see WoWers maybe getting fired up versus Halo/CoD/Final Fantasy, but how can you hate on that Paper Mario sprite?). WoW was never going to be in a position to win this one outright just because there's a world of difference between PM and Animal Crossing, but I'd have at least liked it to put up a fight if not for the Day Vote and jRPGs going crazy and especially those on Nintendo systems and pre-2008 Nintendo ownage and "there's got to be some kind of limit to how weak Gears could be, right?" Too bad about... all of that stuff, because it's going to turn this one ugly in a hurry! Paper Mario - 59.09% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Well you'll just have to take my word that I'm not looking at percentages yet...! MY analysis Uhhhh after seeing the thing do pretty terribly against Animal Crossing, it should be pretty clear that either WoW has a vote ceiling or it gets heavily heavily anti-voted. In either case, the result is the same: Paper Mario domination on the way. Well, not quite... on the other hand, I don't expect WoW to get pushed too low either because the thing looked good in four ways... so yeah low 60s, I guess. MY Prediction: Paper Mario with 61.61% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Time for our guest write-up! PaulG235’s Guest Analysis of Supreme Excellence - Paper Mario vs World of Warcraft This was a debatable match pre-contest and it arguably still is now. World of Warcraft did fine in Round 1, but the Paper Mario games looked much stronger than we thought they would be in Round 1. However, I think people have been overrating the games for its R2 matches here. People are seriously thinking TTYD will upset Oblivion? Hell no, unless Paper Mario seriously does reach the high 50's in this match. However, it won't. World of Warcraft is not weak, and Animal Crossing, for all we know, could have some contest strength. Besides (and lol at anyone who uses SFF and 4ways as their excuse here), Just look at its 2009 match, PM cannot be strong enough to reach the high 50's. That's something I'd expect from Vice City, and no, Paper Mario is not as strong or stronger than VC because I refuse to believe Metroid Prime can SFF a MARIO game that badly. Overall, World of Warcraft is actually going to be in the match. It may not end up winning, but it isn't going to be 58-42'ed by Paper Mario. I do think, however, Paper Mario has a very good chance of winning this match. Breaking 55% will be its ceiling, and if it loses, 47% will be its floor. I'll put it somewhere in the low 50's here. Prediction - Paper Mario - 53.71% --- The Gamer In Me In December 2010, a new guru will rise. |
Let's go crew curse. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 100/112 Today's Matches: MGS3 & WoW |
oh if he's gonna miss the start I should post what I emailed him! basically "whoops I slept in gimme Paper Mario with 55%" --- "Luster, you are a delight" ~NGamer "Yes, yes I am." ~ Luster Soldier |
Woo free point! --- The Gamer In Me "Oh boy, I always wanted to be a pedo." - Janus5000's response to sleeping with Misty for the night |
Portal 59.98% 24736 Final Fantasy XII 40.02% 16504 TOTAL VOTES 41240 Skies of Arcadia 37.8% 19457 Mass Effect 62.2% 32017 TOTAL VOTES 51474 Crew Predictions - 79/88 What Happened: Portal does very well, Mass Effect not so much Why it Happened: Portal once again proves that it's pretty damn strong with a good win over FF12. Maybe FF12 is weaker now as well, as it didn't look great in R1 either. After Round 1, most people expected Mass Effect to only hit the low 60s, and that's pretty much what it did. What will Happen: Portal will 'upset' Mass Effect Crew Prediction Challenge - lol leon and lopen Moltar - 78 Tran - 78 AKJ - 76 Kleenex - 75 Leon - 74 Lopen - 74 Guest - 69 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Kleenex gets the point for Portal and AKJ gets the point for ME. Guest - 14.5 (GfK: 1, BT: 2, CM: 2, Kotetsu: 2, dragon: 1, NGamer: 1, Ultima: 2, TRT: 1, Greyfeld: 1, Mr3790: 1, Big Bob: 0.5) Moltar - 14 Kleenex - 13 Tran - 12 AKJ - 11.5 Leon - 11 Lopen - 9 --- Moltar Status: 96 Points - Vote: Mass Effect Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
man kleenex you're supposed to let me catch up --- shuffle fun shuffle shuffle fun shuffle fun fun shuffle fun shuffle just plane fun |
From: paulg235 | #374 Woo free point! 'whoops' --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
West Division: Round 2 - Match 91 – (3) Metal Gear Solid 4 vs. (6) Diablo II Moltar’s Analysis Metal Gear Solid 4 Round 1 - 63.49% on Assassin’s Creed Not bad for Assassin’s Creed Diablo II Round 1 - 74.31% on Eternal Darkness This match is kind of interesting. MGS4 put on a somewhat disappointing performance against AC. This was followed by Diablo crushing fodder. Thing is, Assassin’s Creed is a series with decent strength. Despite the mediocre showing, I think MGS4 will be fine here. Diablo II is probably going to do very well in this match because it is a game with solid strength, but the winner should never be in question. Moltar’s Bracket: MGS4 wins Moltar’s Prediction: MGS4 - 55% Lopen’s Analysis Fun fact, when bracket was first released, I had Diablo II going over MGS4, MGS2, and MGS3 in sequence. I still think that'd be an amazing turn of events, but yeah I changed my bracket before lockdown. That being said, I'm still thinking this is a real possibility, and the only reason I'm picking against Diablo II here is because this is a night match. Diablo II definitely looked like a potential champ slayer last round... course it was against fodder so I wouldn't take that too far, but whatever... but comparing it to say, MGS2's performance, and I don't see a huge difference in strength there. And well, I know a lot of people are assuming MGS4 > MGS2, but I don't buy it, so that comparison works for me (Assassin's Creed is tougher to gauge). I also know a lot of people are saying that MGS4 is clearly stronger because of its performance in the 4 way contest-- I don't think that means as much as you'd think. MGS4's primary concern, that is, its release as a PS3 exclusive (less and less of a factor as time goes on, but still a factor I say), is all but nullified in the 4-way format. I mean, all of that, and I'm not calling the upset. But I'm calling for it to be close. What's the difference between Diablo II with 51.05% and MGS4 with 51.05% I'm not sure. Maybe I should just call an upset for the sake of an upset so people will actually absorb what I'm saying. … nah. I'm not going to pander to you people. Drown in your crew curse and die. Lopen's prediction: Metal Gear Solid 4 with 51.05% Transience’s Analysis There's something about this match that makes me feel weird. MGS4 isn't going to lose but I think Diablo is going to make it look bad. Diablo 2 is on the short list of massive games that overshadowed everything that came out after it. It's too bad it never found its way to a console because that's what's holding it back from being in MGS4's class. It's got perhaps the best night vote around whereas MGS4 seems pretty underwhelming on that front. I'd pick D2 over AC1, meaning that this match could easily push MGS4 under 60%. Not sure what to predict for this one, but I'd be careful not to overreact -- Diablo 2 is a damn legit game. Best Blizzard game, anyway. transience's prediction: Metal Gear Solid 4 with 57.14% |
Leon’s Analysis I saw some people talking bad about MGS4’s round one performance against Assassin’s Creed, but I didn’t really think there was anything bad about it. 63-64% against a decent midcard game isn’t that bad, really. AC2’s pretty shoddy performance against ICO does kinda make MGS4’s performance look a little worse, admittedly, but still. It shouldn’t be in any danger of losing this one. Diablo 2 tripled Eternal Darkness, but that game could be considered the epitome of cult. It’s going to be a bottom tier game in the stats. Even so, Diablo 2’s a strong game, so it’ll do respectably here. Don’t get concerned if it puts up a strong number here! Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I actually thought the Raiden segment in MGS4’s ending was pretty touching, cheesy as it was. Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid 4. Leonhart’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 4 with 58.11% Kleenex’s Analysis Metal Gear has been disappointing so far this contest. Unfortunately, MGS4 is probably a little to far out of the range of Diablo for an upset to happen. I do think Diablo will impress/MGS4 will disappoint, however. This could end up being a lot closer than most think. Kleenex's Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 4 with 55.78% Applekidjosh’s Analysis Diablo II is a real oddball in these contests. It's got a crazy high playrate among the Gamefaqs nerd crowd and nobody really dislikes it, so it tends to do really well for itself even though it's nobody's "favorite game." MGS4 is just too big of a game for it to take out, unfortunately. I'm counting on Diablo to take MGS4 down a peg, even if it doesn't really have a chance of pulling the win. AKJ says MGS4 > Diablo 2 with 54% Guest’s Analysis - TsunamiXXVIII I vastly underestimated Diablo II last round, as anyone who reads the Spread Betting topics would remember. Both games in this match had been installed as 34-point favorites (so 67% needed to cover), with MGS4 taking on Assassin’s Creed and Diablo II taking on Eternal Darkness, and I stuck my foot in my mouth about four times in a row, initially not even betting the second match out of sheer shock, saying that if I had merely been informed that the lines were identical without being told what they were, I would’ve thought Assassin’s Creed was being overrated, because I couldn’t see either of the games in the second match being a heavy favorite over anything and was originally planning to bank my battle entry on that match, and eventually taking Eternal Darkness to cover the spread “simply because I would probably take Assassin’s Creed as a 34-point favorite over Diablo II” while thanking the spreadmaker for the tip on my battle entry. It ended with two spread losses as AC managed to cover against MGS4 and Diablo II destroyed Eternal Darkness. So then why the hell did I take this match? Well…while I no longer believe it would score a doubling, as I did then, I still think Assassin’s Creed would beat Diablo II fairly easily. I heard a lot of people proposing that Diablo II’s big win was in part the result of SFF, and I can believe that. Based on a rough estimate of a 60-40 AC win in a hypothetical match with Diablo II (which has no basis other than opinion), combined with the 36.51% that AC got on MGS4 last round, we get Metal Gear Solid 4 with 70.79% of the vote. Crew Consensus: MGS4 sweep. |
whoa, Guest --- xyzzy |
aw yeah Guest --- DFF |
what the --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Metal Gear Solid 4 vs Diablo II I understood calling MGS3's performance last night a "disappointment" a couple hours in when it had slipped to 61%, but the game flat out KILLED Europe the rest of the night (nearly 76% there, yikes!) to bring it back up to 64%, which is quite respectable in my opinion. That felt more like us underestimating MvC2 (again!) than MGS really dropping the ball. Tonight though, I think this series could very well drop the ball, and here's why: Diablo II is good. I realize no one's jaw is going to drop no matter what percentage you hang on Eternal Darkness, but I picture D2 doing enough in the next 12 hours to get people talking about what a waste it was to saddle this game with such a predefined path. The other helpful thing is that Diablo's one of the most internationally balanced games in the bracket- MGS once again lucked out with the Night Match, but don't except it to shoot up in percent once North America falls asleep like we've been seeing in ever other poll. In summary I still call 3 the favorite in the upcoming MGS War, and I except this performance to make that even more evident! Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 57.23% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
If only the Guest had been correct. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
*begins preemptively dancing on MGS4's grave* --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Yes, because we're positive MGS3 could do better than this! Oh wait, I'm not! --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
Did Leon just say something? Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my hardwood coffin tapdancing. --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Metal Gear Solid 2 vs Shadow of the Colossus Last night I expressed some concern that MGS4 might drop the ball against Diablo, but I was wrong... this performance is so underwhelming, both balls just dropped! Is it perhaps time to put the 4 > 3 train on hold in favor of concentrating on just surviving Round 3? Maybe! But first let's find out if there's any merit to this SotC > 2 train that a few people have been trying to hype this week. MGS2 and SotC scored nearly identical wins over their opponents in R1, so the question naturally becomes, "would Banjo beat The Sims 1v1"? And my answer would of course be, "yes, and pretty easily"- so normally a comfortable victory for MGS2 would be a safe assumption. Unfortunately, I don't think that's quite true in this case. For one thing, like all of Snake's games before it, 2 had the advantage of a Night Match last time around; this is our first chance to see this series in the sunlight, and I'm not expecting the results to be very favorable. For a second thing, we've already seen both SotC and ICO perform well above expectations and there's no doubt that it'll have the same-console SmartVoterFAQs advantage over MGS2 in this poll, which as we've seen time and again matters 5x more than sales in this GotD setting. So, are we going to be seeing one of the bigger upsets of the bracket tomorrow? ....naaaaah. But those calling for it aren't entirely insane, either! Look for MGS to underwhelm us again, with something along the lines of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - 54.21% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
"there's no doubt that it'll have the same-console SmartVoterFAQs advantage over MGS2 in this poll" Give me a break, man. MGS2 is oft-cited to be the first example of a postmodern video game and also as one of the prime examples of video games as an artistic medium (just like SotC is). In other words, MGS2 is the older, more influential game, and thus is huge bait for "SmartVoterFAQs". This basically settles that I'm anti-voting SotC in this match, both to spite its fanbase (which will inevitably come whining here saying "SotC is art you guys all suck", which is stupid considering what game it's facing), and you. --- Currently Playing - Zelda: Majora's Mask Next Games Up - Super Smash Bros. Melee, Resident Evil 4, Okami |
there's nothing influential about MGS2. SOTC crushes MGS2 in the influential department. --- xyzzy |
Influence implies other things have drawn from it. I think you're thinking influenza there. Easy mistake, we've all gotten sick playing that game. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
I mean unless you're saying there's a new horse racer out there that used the SotC riding physics. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
tons of games have taken inspiration in SOTC and its scale. hell, developers themselves remain in awe of SOTC. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/10/27/game-developers-list-all-time-favorite-ps2-games/ - Ico and SOTC cleaned up this poll of influential developers. --- xyzzy |
I
don't think a developer saying they like a game necessarily means it
influenced them. I mean the Twisted Metal guy has it as #1 on his list
for crissakes. I'm just saying SotC is (thankfully) pretty unique to me as far as games go. I'm not seeing the big influence it's putting out there. Also if you want "scale" MMOs among other games were making big sprawling worlds before SotC anyway. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Shadow of the Colossus is one of the most influential games of the past decade. There's no question about that. --- The whole object of travel is not to set foot on foreign land; it is at last to set foot on one's own country as a foreign land. |
MGS2 appeared twice, and SotC appeared five times. They are two of the best on the PS2. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
It sounds nice to say sure but can you guys actually name any games that seem like they draw a lot from SotC. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
...I did it again. I'm just glad that MGS4 is winning the damn match so that I can stop putting my foot in my mouth underestimating Diablo II. --- Currently playing: Golden Sun: Dark Dawn |
From: Ngamer64 | #388 Actually, Diablo 2 > MGS2 sounds pretty good to me right about now! From: Lopen | #397 Twilight Princess, off the top of my head, I think. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
West Division: Round 2 - Match 92 – (7) Metal Gear Solid 2 vs. (2) Shadow of the Colossus Moltar’s Analysis Metal Gear Solid 2 Round 1 - 69.68% on Banjo-Tooie Bye bye Banjo Shadow of the Colossus Round 1 - 69.35% on The Sims Bye bye humans Easy match. Banjo > Sims on GameFAQs (pro-tip we hate casual stuff), so MGS2 > SotC on GameFAQs However, MGS games haven’t been looking too great, so MGS2 probably isn’t going to wow anyone here. his should end somewhere between MGS3 and MGS4’s performance. Moltar’s Bracket: MGS2 wins Moltar’s Prediction: MGS2 - 56% Lopen’s Analysis The “duh” factor here has you goin with MGS2. Reading too much into Internet “is it art” elitists, and this is understandable because they are very loud, might make you think that SotC has a chance. This is a mistake. You might think that SotC looked good against the Sims, but man practically any game would've done the same. The Sims drew almost as many anti-votes on this site as it did votes, I'd wager. So yeah, MGS2 should win this one without much fuss. SotC isn't going to be total fodder or anything, but no real reason to think it's on the level to fight Metal Gears. Lopen's prediction: Metal Gear Solid 2 with 58.38% Transience’s Analysis Man Shadow of the Colossus got a good first round matchup. I wish it was going to get blasted worse than it will, but unfortunately MGS2 isn't the fan favorite for some reason. I don't know, something about not playing as Snake? Whatever. The point is this is the Metal Gear division for a reason, SotC doesn't have a shot. AKj says MGS2 > SotC with 54% Leon’s Analysis MGS2 and SOTC both put up nearly 70% on their opponents last round, so it’s a matter of which game is stronger between Banjo-Tooie and The Sims. Personally, I think it’s Banjo-Tooie. The Sims feels like a kind of game this site would really hate. I know not every game in a series is equal, but SimCity managed to lose to The Secret of Monkey Island in a match where 10% would’ve been enough to win. I think The Sims would be an actively anti-voted game, too. Not to say Banjo-Tooie is worth anything, but still, I don’t have any confidence in The Sims to be able to beat much of anything. I still feel pretty confident in MGS2 here, though SOTC should put up a respectable number. Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: Is it bad that I almost want Shadow of the Colossus to win this match just to see Ulti’s reaction? Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid 2. Leonhart’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 2 with 56.55% |
