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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #351
Northwest Division: Round 1 - Match 61 – (3) The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker vs. (14) God of War II

Moltar’s Analysis

Wind Waker
sail all day

God of War II
isn’t as lucky as the first

GoWII actually is decent, but we’re dealing with a mainline Zelda game here. Wind Waker may not be strong as a good number of the other Zelda’s, but it’s by no means weak.

Wind Waker wins, but GoWII doesn’t get blown out. Yawn.

Moltar’s Bracket: Zelda WW > GoWII

Moltar’s Prediction: Zelda WW - 60%



Lopen’s Analysis

God of War 2 is not to be underestimated, nor are the anti-votes Wind Waker will still get. Back in 2004, no coincidence that almost all its matches were 50-50. Do I think GoW2 has a chance? Well... maybe a small one. This is yet another match that I think is a better guest clan upset than the ones lately.

Anyway, I think the match will be close, regardless.

Lopen's prediction:
Wind Waker with 53.89%



Transience’s Analysis

Nice match today. I'd take Kingdom Hearts 2 over Wind Waker (it almost beat TP, after all) and I'd probably take God of War 2 over Halo, so this should be a fairly close match. Plus, this is a night match so advantage GOW2. Zelda will never be threatened here, but this could make people feel a little bit uncomfortable about Oblivion beating Wind Waker.

Just remember that God of War almost beat Oblivion and that GOW2 is probably about equal to 1. If Zelda breaks 60% here, it should have no trouble with Oblivion at all. Still, Wind Waker kinda worries me.. it was assumed in 2004 that Wind Waker was strong, but it struggled to beat Metroid Prime which has been exposed since. It's also measured through 2004 Starcraft which is notoriously inaccurate. Wind Waker hasn't had a chance to shine since - it got stuck with Melee, its worst game outside of Ocarina of Time last year. We'll see if this Gamecube game is worthwhile tonight.

and if it isn't, make sure you lol at it and point out how Brawl is going to kill Melee over and over

transience's prediction: The Legend of Zelda: the Wind Waker with 58.94%



Leon’s Analysis

Some people seem kinda down on Wind Waker this year, looking for upsets in its matches to prevent it from reaching the divisional finals showdown against G/S/C (or Majora’s Mask if you’re feeling plucky). I don’t see it happening here (or next round either), although watch out for that third round match. Wind Waker obviously isn’t going to be elite level like Twilight Princess, but it’s still going to be up there because it is a Zelda game.

God of War II got doubled by in 2007 GOTY poll by Halo 3; Wind Waker beat Halo in the last Games Contest despite sharing the poll with Melee. I’m sure some people look at how badly GoW2 beat RE5 in the vote-in and think it’s got a chance here, but I think that just tells us how weak RE5 more than how strong GoW2 is. Wind Waker should win this one pretty easily, maybe Ulti-style blowout here.

Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I actually like the cel-shaded Wind Waker graphics. It kinda makes me want to play Wind Waker, actually, but then again, I’m not a hardcore Zelda fan, so whatever.

Leonhart’s Vote: Wind Waker.

Leonhart’s Prediction: Wind Waker with 60.97%
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Kleenex’s Analysis

Time for more Zelda. Based on how well the original God of War did in its first round match, one might think that the sequel could give ol' Link a scare here. But I don't really buy GoW's perfomance. GameFAQs hates action games and loves Zelda, even if it is the weakest Zelda in the bracket (maybe). Go Link.

Kleenex's Prediction: Wind Waker with 63.45%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

GO GO ZELDAFAQS! Remember when Wind Waker Link was enough to give Cloud a win in the finals? At some point the fanbase decided "Oh... I guess this was actually a good game" and everything changed. Weird.

God of War II looked strong in the vote-in, and God of War did okay against Left4Dead, but that's not enough to give it a win over a second-string Zelda title. I'm thinking it'll push 60% here, but if it is more like low 50s I'm gonna throw in the towel on next round's Symphonia > God of War train.

AKJ says Zelda:WW > GoW2 with 60.00%



Guest’s Analysis - pjbasis

w00t my first time as a guest! I don't even care about this match-up, I'm just excited to be here! That said I would really like to get that accuracy point!

So here goes.
The Wind Waker is a Zelda game. As of this writing, Majora's Mask is getting 85% on Wii Sports. This doesn't really tell me much except that Wii Sports is fodder and Majora's Mask is a Zelda game. Wind Waker is also a Zelda game, but God of War II is a popular action game.

Uh...I guess it should be less popular than the first one...but by how much? The seeding is quite a bit lower, and even though it was released in 2007; a little after the PS2 started dropping in popularity (if that's possible), it was also released pretty recently on that HD collection with its predecessor. This leads me to believe their difference in strength is not all that big! So Wind Waker vs. something a bit weaker than ToS...hmmmm...Sounds like RE5!

So Wind Waker vs. RE5 huh? Guess I'd take a safe 65-35 split on that one.

I'm gonna go with...Wind Waker at 68.35%!!!



Crew Consensus: Wind Waker wins
th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #353
w00t my first time as a guest!

this should be auto-disqualification to be a guest ever again

<_<
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pjbasismessage detail | filter | #354
I agree.
TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #355

From: Master Moltar | #352
w00t my first time as a guest! I don't even care about this match-up, I'm just excited to be here!


So ffucking lame
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th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #356
that said, Wind Waker's not breaking 65%, let alone 60%!
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transiencemessage detail | filter | #357
no way, guest went for it with that 68% predix

it's almost definitely wrong, but he went for it alright
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #358
You just wanted to use the new partial censoring, didn't you?
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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #359

From: Master Moltar | #352
That said I would really like to get that accuracy point!


Wind Waker at 68.35%!!!


Welp
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #360
Moltar just waits til the analyses come in and copies my percentage imo
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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #361

From: AppIekidjosh | #360
Moltar just waits til the analyses come in and copies my percentage imo


I can't believe it took you this long to figure that out! He's got a knack for copying people's stuff; how else do you explain being eliminated from the Guru so quickly?
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pjbasismessage detail | filter | #362
Wind Waker better not make me look like a fool.
th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #363
don't worry about it; most guests look like fools!

(and plenty of crew members, too!)
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Ngamer64message detail | filter | #364
Wind Waker vs God of War II

My gut reaction percentage here was 65, but then I remembered how well GoW1 did on L4D (and with how great wRPGs have looked, maybe Valve and TF2 did better than we thought in topping Fable?) combined with those nasty percentage cuts Assassin's Creed made on MGS (GoW and AC are joined at the hip in my mind). Despite both previous Zeldas looking beastly, I think the series comes back down to Earth with this result, moreso because its finally drawn a decent opponent rather than any weakness on WW's part.

Night Vote Factor should pretty much be a moot point in this one, as both games are well-liked outside of North America but do well enough with "the kiddies" to stay consistent during Day hours as well. And as for the OTHER big factor this season, namely "GotD fever"... I don't see any big advantage one way or the other there, either. Wind Waker isn't hated like it once was, but still doesn't feel like anything "revolutionary" or "important" in terms of the Zelda series, while GoWII didn't blaze any new trails either.

Give me Zelda to crack into the 60s, but not by too much!

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker with 62.21%

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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #365
If it doesn't make you look like a fool it makes me look like a fool

Bite the bullet, bro
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No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
Lopenmessage detail | filter | #366
WEEAAAAKKKKK
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No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #367
holy crap
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This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?
KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #368

From: transience | #357
no way, guest went for it with that 68% predix

it's almost definitely wrong, but he went for it alright


Felt it was necessary to point this out

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DFF
Ngamer64message detail | filter | #369
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/18/2010 10:48:45 PM | message detail

"That said I would really like to get that accuracy point!

Wind Waker at 68.35%!!!"

Welp



DOUBLE WELP

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TheKoolAidShotomessage detail | filter | #370
*looks at results*

welp
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Lopenmessage detail | filter | #371
Call me crazy but I think Kleenex still has a chance to get the point here
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No problem!
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transiencemessage detail | filter | #372
yeah, don't think this stays above 68. great show though from WW.
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xyzzy
pjbasismessage detail | filter | #373
F*** yeah!
AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #374
Wind Waker stronger than Majora's Mask is the best possible result
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #375
Best possible result is them both being weaker than God of War 2
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No problem!
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #376
make your time, guest
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This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?
th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #377
this could go to tranny at this rate!
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pjbasismessage detail | filter | #378
Harsh update.

Just hang on WW.
KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #379
tran vs. guest place your bets

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DFF
th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #380
I bet on tran because my oracle score hinges on it

>__>
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pjbasismessage detail | filter | #381
It's over.
Lopenmessage detail | filter | #382
Thank god

At least GameFAQs as a whole doesn't have as terrible tastes as B8
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No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
transiencemessage detail | filter | #383
I got dis
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xyzzy
KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #384
The dust settled, and tran stood victorious over the silly Guest

Little did he know that the Crew had been Kleenex'd anyway!

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DFF
pjbasismessage detail | filter | #385
Wait a tick.

Does the winner get the accuracy point for getting as close as possible to the percentage? Or only if you guess as close as you can UNDER the percentage, overshooting automatically disqualifying?
transiencemessage detail | filter | #386
this ain't the price is right
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xyzzy
pjbasismessage detail | filter | #387
WW's almost at 66 again.

Just wondering why I'm expected to lose here.
I mean, sure night vote, but I still got this.
Lopenmessage detail | filter | #388
Price is right rules that'd be awesome
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #389
Probably because I'm already closer than you are, and we still have the whole night for Zelda to drop !
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This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?
Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #390
Crew Predictions - 50/58

What Happened: easy matches

Why it Happened: MM beat down Wii Sports because Wii games suck. CC had no problem with DQ because we love PS1 RPGs. MKWii almost lost to PW because Wii games suck. GSC rocks Advance Wars because it's Pokemon.

What will Happen: MM > CC and GSC > MKWii

Crew Prediction Challenge - points

Moltar - 53
Tran - 53
AKJ - 51
Kleenex - 51
Lopen - 50
Leon - 50
Guest - 45



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Tran gets the point for MM and CC. Tran gets the point for MM and CC. Lopen gets the point for MKWii and Leon gets the point for Pokemon

Guest - 10 (GfK: 1, BT: 2, CM: 2, Kotetsu: 1, dragon: 1, NGamer: 1, Ultima: 1, TRT: 1)
Moltar - 9.5
AKJ - 8.5
Tran - 8
Lopen - 8
Kleenex - 7
Leon - 6
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Moltar Status: Bracket: MKWii (50/58)
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #391
why should he get two points for one match geez

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dragon22391message detail | filter | #392
man, 5 points out of second to last?

so terrible
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I'm too tired to drive anywhere anyway right now, do you care if I stay?
Call me numbers.
Lopenmessage detail | filter | #393
I remember when I had a rivalry with the guest clan. They even beat me once or twice.

Now that Leon's on the crew instead of backing them I guess they lost their bite... oh ho ho... don't worry, Leon, you'll be joining them soon!
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No problem!
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Ngamer64message detail | filter | #394
Going to sleep for like 20 straight hours, so just plopping down this percentage until I get back.

Assassin's Creed II vs ICO

SMARTVOTER FEAR

Assassin's Creed II with 64.79%

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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #395
Northwest Division: Round 1 - Match 62 – (6) Assassin’s Creed II vs. (11) ICO

Moltar’s Analysis

Assassin’s Creed II
37% against MGS4

ICO
69% against The Sims

So we’ve already seen games from both of these series in action. AC put up good numbers against MGS4, and SotC destroyed The Sims.

The sequel to Assassin’s Creed should do well here, as it looks like GameFAQs took to it as well as, if not better, than the first. Also, Brotherhood just came out and that should help even more (not like it needed it). ICO is a well-respected game, but it certainly wasn’t as big as SotC. If that were here instead, I may take it over AC2, but not its older, less-popular and less-revered sibling.

Moltar’s Bracket: AC2 > ICO

Moltar’s Prediction: Assassin’s Creed II - 68%



Lopen’s Analysis

AAAAAUUUUU! AAAAUUUUU!

Hear that? That's Ico shouting for a win.

It never came.

Lopen's prediction:
Assassin's Creed 2 with 69.78%



Transience’s Analysis

ICO is SOTC-lite - a very prestigious and beloved game but not something that will resonate with the masses. It'll do alright, but AC2 is for reals. That game looked to be the third strongest game of 2009, tied with Batman and above Dragon Age, NSMB Wii and SF4. AC1 has proven its worth time and again so I have a hard time seeing AC2 struggle, even if it didn't sell as well. Ezio did pretty well in the character battle, too.

oh, did I mention Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood came out this week and is currently getting rave reviews? Or that this is a day match which will be advantage AC2? I don't have any idea what kind of prediction to put in here because I have a decent amount of respect for the Team ICO games (as do a crapload of gamers), but AC2 should never be threatened here.

transience's prediction: Assassin's Creed II with 61.66%



Leon’s Analysis

Assassin’s Creed is the new hit action game series, and AC2 apparently fixed a lot of the issues people had with the first one. It also got a much higher seed than the original, which needed the vote-ins to get here. It’s also got an opponent that it can show off against. ICO is the predecessor to Shadow of the Colossus, but it didn’t get any of the mainstream recognition that SotC has, or so it seems to me. I don’t see many people talking about ICO. Shadow of the Colossus would have a hard time winning this one, I think, so no way I’m picking ICO, which will probably end up being one of the weakest games in the contest by the time this is all said and done.

Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I’ve never played an Assassin’s Creed game. I should probably fix that.

Leonhart’s Vote: Assassin’s Creed II.

Leonhart’s Prediction: Assassin’s Creed II with 65.99%



Kleenex’s Analysis

While Shadow of the Colossus is actually moderately popular around here, ICO is not. Assassin's Creed probably isn't that great either - sorry, Assassin's Creed TWO - but Brotherhood just came out, so it'll probably be riding high for the next week or two. ICO's probably going to look pretty bad today, but hey maybe it'll impress a little.

Kleenex's Prediction: Assassin's Creed II with 69.12%
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Applekidjosh’s Analysis

Assassin's Creed. AC impressed me against MGS4, and I have no idea which is stronger between AC and AC2 (there are too many games with AC as an acronym btw) but they can't be too far apart, can they? Most people seem to say AC2 is better anyway. ICO is that worse version of Fable, right? Some kinda overhyped and disappointing game IIRC. Assassin's Creed should have no trouble here at all, I just wonder if it will get the doubling. I'll go for it!

AKJ says AC2 > ICO with 67%



Guest’s Analysis - Greyfeld

While I'd like to write a long, introspective analysis of this match, the fact is that this match is going to be very straight forward.

Assassin's Creed 2 is almost the same strength as its predecessor, which beat out Devil May Cry in the vote-ins. AC2 also beat Dragon Age and only barely lost to Batman in this year's "best multiplat game" poll.

Ico, on the other hand, barely registers a blip on the radar in the shadow (lol shadow) of its better-known sequel Shadow of the Colossus, which couldn't even pull a decisive third place victory over Gears of War in last year's 4-way polls.

Anybody who's been around this website for a while, however, knows how vocal the SotC/Ico fanbase is. Assuming SotC puts a hurt on The Sims (writing this before division 7 matches begin), people may start believing that Ico can shut down AC2. But Assassin's Creed is a totally different creature, and has a mass appeal that spans three different gaming platforms, while Ico is as niche as they get. I would bet that many fans of SotC haven't even played Ico.

All in all, this should prove to be a fairly boring match.

Assassin's Creed II > Ico ~ 62%



Crew Consensus: Assassin’s Sweep
AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #397
oh ICO is the worse version of a different overhyped terrible game, my bad

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Greyfeldmessage detail | filter | #398
yaaayyyy my first guest slot!! And nobody cares!! lol

Though I have to say, I didn't do too bad on the percentage for my first try :)
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #399
ICO what a beast
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This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?
pjbasismessage detail | filter | #400
You should have made a daring prediction and a...let's say...unique introduction, like I did.