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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | filter | #001
Hey everyone, it’s Contest time again! You know what that means!

The Contest Analysis Crew is back once again! Our goal is to go through this entire contest to determine the GameFAQs Game of the Decade. We will analyze and predict each match, and of course, you will read the write-ups and laugh at us when we’re wrong. So without further ado, here’s the Introducti-

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Wait...I’m getting word that...an Introduction isn’t in our budget this contest? What do you mean I used everything up for Character Battle 8 earlier this year?! I can’t have a Crew topic without an introduction!

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Oh, so I can have an introduction, but it has to be short?...Hmm, I think I’ve got something then.

Here is your Game of the Decade Contest Analysis Crew!

The Founder: Master Moltar - http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/577cac27d919ba8a665184f2e7e9459d.jpg

The Wild: Lopen - http://i45.tinypic.com/xf8f1d.gif

The Wise: Transience - http://www.whipassgaming.com/images/houseofrenders/HoR3/christie1.jpg

The Sophomore: Kleenex - http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/400/pierre.png

The Old Friend: Leonhart - http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8425/f1a45e41e5ed8cc7009d13d.jpg

The New Blood: Applekidjosh - http://files.daitrombe.net/attachments/39/854/kaguya2009.jpg

The Usual: Guest - http://i2.bebo.com/045b/13/mediuml/2007/12/22/15/4534531206a6430498552ml.jpg

Now how’s THAT for an Introduction! (Pictures donated by: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2qxt7h0.jpg)



E-mail - mastermoltar@gmail.com

Current Guests:
Persona 4/Braid - Biolizard
Portal/Gears 2 - Ultimaphazon
FF12/Crisis Core - hockeydude15
SoA/Baldur's Gate - Albion Hero
Mass Effect/Plants vs. Zombies - ZFS

MGS3/TimeSplitters 2 - The Real Truth
MvC2/NSMBWii - PaulG235
Paper Mario/Katamari - BT
WoW/Animal Crossing - Me_Pie_Three
MGS4/Assassin's Creed - Luster Soldier
Diablo II/Eternal Darkness - Luis_Sera89
MGS2/Banjo-Tooie - Korayashi
SotC/The Sims - Articuno2001

Zelda: MM/Wii Sports - GrapefruitKing
Chrono Cross/DQ8 - KP
PW/MKWii - Eeeevil Overlord
Pokemon GSC/Advance Wars - TsunamiXXVIII
Zelda: WW/God of War II - pjbasis
Assassin's Creed II/ICO - Greyfeld
Paper Mario: TTYD/Gears of War - Chaotic Mind
Oblivion/Soul Calibur II - Ultimaphazon

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Moltar Status: Bracket: TWEWY (36/42)
Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/
Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #002
Resident Evil 4 82.15% 31896
Jet Grind Radio 17.85% 6929
TOTAL VOTES 38825

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 63.57% 30560
Silent Hill 2 36.43% 17516
TOTAL VOTES 48076


Crew Predictions - 35/42

What Happened: RE4 puts up big numbers on JGR, and Vice City does decently on SH2

Why it Happened: JGR is fodder, and RE4 showed that. As for the other match, GTA once again shows it's nothing to be feared, as Silent Hill manages to look good against it.

What will Happen: RE4 easy

Crew Prediction Challenge - pointz

AKJ - 36
Moltar - 36
Tran - 36
Kleenex - 35
Lopen - 34
Leon - 34
Guest - 33



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Tran gets the point for RE4 and Kleenex gets the point for VC.

AKJ - 7
Guest - 7 (GfK: 1, BT: 1, CM: 2, Kotetsu: 1, dragon: 1, NGamer: 1)
Kleenex - 7
Tran - 6
Lopen - 5
Moltar - 5
Leon - 3
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most_games_r_okmessage detail | filter | #004
bump
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gAmEwlzArDmessage detail | filter | #005
im rooting for lopen

i know he was my rival for a week in some user contest many years ago but now its turned into a undertaker-batista kinda thing with regards to the mutual respect
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Ultimaphazonmessage detail | filter | #006
Moltar, can you lower my crew prediction for Portal by 4%. I think I may have slightly overshot Portal there.
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Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #007
Southwest Division: Round 1 - Match 44 – (4) Persona 4 vs. (13) Braid

Moltar’s Analysis

Persona 4
Reach out to the Truth.....below...in the analysis

Braid
tie physics time

You know before in those matches were it’s between two weak games and neither deserve to win and then one gets beaten easily and it looks bad so then it gets compared to other games like ‘well at least it could beat that game’?

Braid is that game. (also I’m not even sure if the above scenario happens)

It’s a very small downloadable game that 10 people played and loved. Persona 4 won’t have any problems here considering that game actually hung with SFIV (remember when that used to be a bad thing?) and I know at least 15 people played it. P3 beating Civ shows that the Persona name does have some strength on this site.

Moltar’s Bracket: Persona 4 > Braid

Moltar’s Prediction: Persona 4 - 65%



Lopen’s Analysis

Persona 4, weak as it probably is, actually came really really close to beating Street Fighter IV last year, a game I'd easily put ahead of the DLC exclusive Braid. P4 stormed the PS2 GotY some year too, scoring 40% on a bunch of garbage. Granted, it's a bunch of garbage, but I couldn't see Braid scoring 40% on anything.

I mean he look like Mario from the future, but I don't think that can save him.

Lopen's prediction:
Persona 4 with 58.94%



Transience’s Analysis

I don't care how good of a game Braid is. It's 1.) a downloadable game, 2.) a new IP and 3.) a genre GameFAQs isn't crazy about. Persona may be niche, but Braid might be even niche-er on this site.

Persona 3 just showed us it was at least not completely awful by beating Civ 4. P4 is probably about as strong or stronger.. plus it did manage to win that PS2 GOTY poll easily. Was it one of the weakest GOTY polls ever? Yep. But it still showed it had the name recognition to get a majority of the votes. Braid loses polls to pretty much everything. Going multiplatform helps, but not enough.

Braid's only advantage here is that this is a day match. And even that is sketchy.

transience's prediction: Persona 4 with 61.01%



Leon’s Analysis

Man, what a match this is. Braid is lucky that Mother 3 is in this contest because that’s probably the only game in this bracket that’ll finish lower in the final stats. Downloadable games just aren’t going to do well here. Braid barely did better than World of Goo in two GOTY polls. World of Goo lost to Shadow Hearts 2 in the vote-ins. That should give you a good idea of how strong Braid is. Persona 4 nearly beat SFIV, which should be more than enough to win this match. I’m interested to see how many votes this match gets, especially with how much lower vote totals have been in this contest. How low can you go?!

Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I have never purchased a downloadable game.

Leonhart’s Vote: Braid, because why not?

Leonhart’s Prediction: Persona 4 with 64.11%



Applekidjosh’s Analysis

Oh man this game. I'll tell ya what Braid's got going for it:
-Badass cover art
-Critical acclaim out the wazoo
-The HaRRicH Factor

Unfortunately it has this against it:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3357
owwww

And Persona has at least seen battle before http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3474 where it equals... oh hey Street Fighter IV.

So if Persona = SF4 and SF2THDR > Braid then OBVIOUSLY this is a clear win done and done

AKJ says Persona 4 with 59.99%
Master Moltar (tc)message detail | delete | filter | #008
Guest’s Analysis - Biolizard

P4 will dominate. Let’s get that straight right off.

Persona 4 may have sucked in BGE2 (And remains my number 1 reason for supporting that voting in these contests should require prerequisites ), but there are two things you need to ask yourself: Could Braid have beaten Civ 4, and is Persona 3 weaker than Persona 4?

Braid is a downloadable game by and indie developer, which is a double whammy of “Who gives a rat’s ass?” That said, Braid also has exposure on its side. It’s one of the first three games brought up in every silly art and gaming debate, alongside “It looks like a painting, so it’s art” Okami and Shadow of the “If it’s boring and brown it must be art” Colossus. Civ IV is an established PC series that actually saw a major release not too long ago, and Civ IV love is more than flavor of the month. But all of this is, frankly, irrelevant, since even if Braid was stronger, P4 still has every reason to kill it.

Persona 4 outsold every iteration of Persona 3, and total sales worldwide saw P4 coming up .10m shy of outselling every version of Persona 3 combined. While sales certainly don’t equate to power, it certainly matters more for smaller games with a dedicated fanbase. Critically, it’s almost universally praised as better than Persona 3 and one of the best RPGs in recent memory. For a niche RPG, Persona 4 made out like a bandit in every respect.
Persona 3’s performance did a lot in the way of earning the series a bit more respect than it was given, but even more importantly, it gave us a taste of where its strength comes from. P3 dominated in Asia and South America, eeked out victories in Europe and Oceania, and won by an even smaller margin in North America, still losing in the US. Persona 4 is far more popular with the fanbase in North America and had a bigger release in PAL regions. Persona 4’s got nowhere to go but up.

Bio’s bracket: Persona 4
Prediction: Persona 4 with 66%



Crew Consensus: Persona 4 with the easy win.
The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #009
Whoops, forgot to send this last night.

Kleenex's Analysis

After seeing Persona 3 beat Civ 4 without too much trouble, it seems like a no-brainer that Persona 4 wins this match. Braid is almost assuredly weaker than Civ - we already saw Tim get completely wrecked, and the game itself was more than doubled by Mega Man 9, a game which is probably fairly weak itself. Now, I know a lot of people seem to think that Persona 4 is stronger than 3, but I don't really buy that. 3 has had 3 different releases over the past 3 years, so it almost assuredly has more exposure. The two games probably don't differ that much, but in a head-to-head matchup, I'm pretty sure I'd side with Persona 3. That being said, Braid is just too weak to win this match.

Kleenex's Prediction: Persona 4 with 55.55%
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AppIekidjoshmessage detail | filter | #010
I approve of Kaguya Nanbu

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th3l3ftymessage detail | filter | #011
but I couldn't see Braid scoring 40% on anything.

Persona 4 with 58.94%


I love you Lopen
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DpObliVionmessage detail | filter | #012
Augh, I knew I shouldn't have banked....full confidence in Dead Rising! Oh well, 19 in a row for my bracket then! Too bad I have Crisis Core > FF12.

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-LusterSoldier-message detail | filter | #013
I have Dead Rising in my bracket, but I wasn't willing to go with Dead Rising for my Battle pick. Oh well, getting this match correct gives me a 20 correct match streak for my bracket.
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DpObliVionmessage detail | filter | #014
Oh yeah, 20. Fail counting, Dp.

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From: DpObliVion | #012
Too bad I have Crisis Core > FF12.


nothing to worry about my man, you picked the right winner

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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #016
I just want P4 to do well enough to kick Dead Rising's ass in round 2.
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DpObliVionmessage detail | filter | #017
whoo akj

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Ngamer64message detail | filter | #018
Persona 4 vs Braid

So yeah, Braid is an awesome game and I was thrilled to see it placed in a semi-winnable position when this bracket was released. I'm also really pleased that we've already seen a download-only game win a matchup on this site, something I thought wasn't going to happen for years. (Wave of the future, people!)

Trouble is, we had to swap out the "semi" for "un" after Civilization was unable to keep up with this series a few days back. Not that P3 looked like a world beater or anything, and truth be told I'm not even sure it wins that poll in a Day Match like we're seeing today... but naaaaay, still can't see something as niche as Braid being able to keep up. Should keep it close though, since I'd imagine there's a huge chunk of this site looking to antivote this series.

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 with 59.09%

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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #019
lol braid
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #020
A Persona game with 70%+ just feels wrong.
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From: The Mana Sword | #020
A Persona game with 70%+ just feels amazing.


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-LusterSoldier-message detail | filter | #022
A Persona game with 70%+ just feels wrong.

Remember, Braid lost to Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix in this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3357

That was enough to convince me that Persona could go for high 60s or low 70s, but once again didn't do that in my Oracle as I try to be careful when using GotY polls for predictions.
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GTMmessage detail | filter | #023
Totally late but I was 90% sure Dead Rising was going to win on no basis!

Way better than the 100% I though Rock Band was going to win.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #024
Huh, only me and Moltar had P4 going mid-60s here? Kinda surprised, honestly. This one felt like a gimme 65/35 match.
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NoDicePwnmessage detail | filter | #025
Well, its just tough to imagine PERSONA of all things getting a near doubling, no matter how weak its opponent is. I think this about proves that Braid is likely the weakest entrant in the field, though.
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #026
I would take Braid to beat No Mercy and Tony Hawk fairly easily.

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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #027

From: NoDicePwn | #025
I think this about proves that Braid is likely the weakest entrant in the field, though.


Well, it should've been a given before the contest began that Braid was going to be bottom 5 (no higher than bottom 10), and Persona IV showed it at least had a decent following, so yeah, this seemed obvious.
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DpObliVionmessage detail | filter | #028
I'm not so sure about that, KP.

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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #029

From: KamikazePotato | #026
I would take Braid to beat No Mercy and Tony Hawk fairly easily.


Persona 4 > either Fire Emblem game?

I'm kinda iffy on that, but we'll get a better feel for it next round.
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KamikazePotatomessage detail | filter | #030
Well, maybe not Tony Hawk. But No Mercy? Yeah, definitely.

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transiencemessage detail | filter | #031
I have faith in Persona bombing with the afterschool vote, so we're okay here!
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AppIekidjosh | Posted 11/10/2010 8:22:07 AM | message detail
oh gosh Moltar I just saw Dead Rising winning eliminates you from the Guru


*giggles*

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From: transience | #031
I have faith in Persona bombing with the afterschool vote, so we're okay here!


I don't know. It is Braid. I can't imagine it having a good ASV either!

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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #035
Nah, Braid won't have a good ASV. This'll probably go like FFIX/T&T did, and they'll just push back and forth in percentage for a long time.
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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #036
Damn Moltar, you gotta pick more upsets!

I, for example, am safe until Platinum vs. Brawl.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #037
You're safe until then for the sake of a technicality, but you were pretty much dead before the contest even started!
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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #038
You won't be so cocky when Platinum piledrives Brawl into the ground 55-45 style!
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The Mana Swordmessage detail | filter | #039
Hey, if DPP does beat Brawl, Bio's gonna be laughing all the way to the bank! And perhaps Bacon, too.
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WarThaNemesis2message detail | filter | #040
DPP > Brawl? You think too small.

DPP > GSC in the finals.

Fusion 2nd in the X-stats.

No Mercy > Majora's Mask.
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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #041

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #040
DPP > Brawl? You think too small.

DPP > GSC in the finals.

Fusion 2nd in the X-stats.

No Mercy > Majora's Mask.


Wow.

Dream big, my friend. Reach for the stars.
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WarThaNemesis2message detail | filter | #042
What's the point of dreams if they aren't big!
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #043

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #042
What's the point of dreams if they aren't big!


What's the point of dreams if they can't come true!!
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WarThaNemesis2message detail | filter | #044
Can't come true?

Dreams never die!
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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #045
You all called me crazy for Falcon > Riku, don't forget!
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #046

From: Biolizard28 | #045
You all called me crazy for Falcon > Riku, don't forget!


No, we didn't!
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Biolizard28message detail | filter | #047
I know, but it certainly made my pick more dramatic when I put it that way.
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LeonhartFourmessage detail | filter | #048
YOU ALL SAID I WAS CRAZY WHEN I PICKED TETRIS TO BEAT LEGEND OF ZELDA

Now who's the crazy one, I ask!

WHO IS THE CRAZY ONE

Also, Lopen analysis B+ see me after class
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #049
Well it was "ga ga ga ga ga..." but seems like my test worked. Some people do read these things!
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Lopenmessage detail | filter | #050
Rather, it was no "ga ga ga ga ga..."

Blast this lack of editing feature.
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