GameFAQs Contests
Game of the Decade Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3
Southeast Division: Round 1 - Match 29 – (3) BioShock vs. (14) Star Wars Battlefront II Moltar’s Analysis Bioshock The Big Daddy of this match Battlefront II This ain’t KOTOR If Legend of Dragoon is any indication (and Uncharted 2 isn’t complete crap), then Battlefront has some strength, but not much. However, BioShock is just too much here. Back in 2009, it managed to hang with Portal, and I have that game going kind of far in this contest. Moltar’s Bracket: Bioshock > SW Battlefront II Moltar’s Prediction: Bioshock - 62% Lopen’s Analysis Star Wars I think should be kinda decent. Bioshock strangely doesn't seem all that strong on GameFAQs (thing lost to Guitar Hero 3 in the 2007 GotY, and was edged out by Portal last year) so this one should actually be pretty close methinks, relative to expectations and hype, anyway. Another interesting part of this match is using it to get a read on how strong Legend of Dragoon and by extension how strong Uncharted 2 is. I honestly don't think that matters all that much, but people like extrapolating or whatever so this should give somethin to talk about. Honestly though I'm a bit unconvinced about how strong Bioshock even is so who knows if it gives any sort of meaningful read. Lopen's prediction: Bioshock with 54.55% Transience’s Analysis I'll be honest: prior to this contest I had never heard of Battlefront 2 or whatever. This is likely my own fault -- it did beat Mario Kart DS in that vote-in poll, a game that's not super popular but is still fairly liked -- but still, I'm not expecting big things here. I've heard a couple of people try to talk up an upset here but they're all huge Battlefront fans, so I pretty much ignore them. Bioshock is sneaky popular: I might go as far as saying that it's the most popular current-gen FPS with COD4 not looking so great. It's right up this site's alley thanks to its focus on atmosphere and storytelling over shooting. It's kinda like a more popular version of Metroid Prime, only without the Nintendo seal of approval. It should have no problem getting at least 60% on this Battlefront game, whatever it is. transience's prediction: Bioshock with 64.69% Leon’s Analysis Part of me wants to think that Battlefront II has a shot at the upset here. BioShock is a popular game. It came decently close to Portal in the last contest and was essentially equal to Halo 3. Its stock is on the rise due to BioShock 2 coming out since the last contest, and Big Daddy actually outperformed Gordon Freeman in the last Character Battle against Tifa. This is a series that seems like it keeps getting more popular (Spoilers: It’s still not beating KH2 next round). But Battlefront II seems to have a decent-sized fanbase of its own. It did manage to beat Mario Kart DS in the vote-in (avenging its loss to it in the 2005 GOTY poll!), and it came close to winning the poll outright. Star Wars is pretty popular here, so it’s probably got a decent playrate, too. The problem is…I’d struggle to pick KOTOR to win this match (BioShock was a little ahead of Halo 3 and KOTOR was a little behind Halo 1, so the difference probably isn’t THAT great though), and I don’t think Battlefront II would be that close to it in strength. So that being said, Battlefront II should do respectably here and has a very outside shot of winning, but BioShock should take this one fairly comfortably, in an Ulti-style blowout. Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I actually kinda liked the Prequel Trilogy! Sure, none of them are as good as any of the movies in the original trilogy, but they weren’t as bad as everyone says, at least to me! Leonhart’s Vote: Star Wars: Battlefront II. Leonhart’s Prediction: BioShock with 57.24% |
Applekidjosh’s Analysis wow man another match where I haven't played either game I'm so qualified to be here. Anyway BioShock is pretty cool, I was judging student Congress and one kid proposed a bill to allocate funds to build a Rapture under the Great Lakes. He got up there and the bill made a lot of sense, but debate was lack-oh sorry what are we doing here? Star Wars was in that incredibly weak vote-in poll. I watched a friend play once, looked dumb. Oh hey I forgot Bioshock lost in round 1 last time (GO PORTAL!). I don't think Bioshock will get the doubling here, but it might be close. AKJ says Bioshock > Star Wars that isn't KOTOR with 63.33% Guest’s Analysis - nameplz (3) BioShock: There’s no way BioShock can lose this... (14) Star Wars Battlefront II: ...right? Ok, to start things off, I am disappointed in the gurus for having a larger percent of people picking Psychonauts to beat Arkham Asylum than BFII to beat BioShock. I mean, seriously? I know that BFII is an shooter and that this is GameFAQs, but come on! Well, with that out of the way, let’s talk about the games themselves. BioShock is a very innovative FPS. As one user put it, it isn’t your typical “flash-in-the-pan” FPS, like Gears of War. Actually, it would be better to call it an action-adventure, since the game also incorporates role-playing and stealth elements. You know what? I don’t even know how to describe the game. It looks like an action-adventure, but then the article I am reading says it has rpg and stealth elements and that it is also a FPS. I was thinking Metroid Prime at first, but then I read more and I thought to myself, “What is this?” But that probably doesn’t matter anyways. The game is considered by many to be amazing. It also did decent in the last games contest. That was why people picked it. However, I think that people are highly underestimating BFII. One argument that people make about BFII is that if it lost to Legend of Dragoon in the vote-ins then it would suck. People, since when have multi-way polls been taken seriously, if ever? I, on the other hand, will make good arguments about why BFII can potentially make this match close. 1. It’s a night match. BioShock is most popular on the 360. This means BioShock would perform better in the day because of the ASV . Also, BFII is very popular in Europe , and I’m not just saying that because of vote-ins. I put over 400 hours into that game and many of the people I saw online were European. In fact, when the European server numbers are at their peak they are arguably the same in number to the American server numbers at their peak. This means that BFII will gain quite a bit of votes in the second half of the match, when the Europeans get out of school. 2. It is more popular than most of you think. For a few years BFII was in the top 3 games played on Xbox Live in the latter half of the Xbox’s life cycle. Keep in mind that this was back when both the 360 and original Xbox had Xbox Live online. This shows that BFII has a loyal and dedicated fanbase. If BFIII was announced a few days before the match (like Lucasarts ever makes smart business decisions these days...), I bet BFII would win the match. I’m probably making this longer than I should, but I believe I made my case. I strongly believe BFII can win this. However, just to play it safe, I put in my oracle Bioshock winning with 54%, and banked the match in my battle entry. I still have BFII winning in my bracket though. Oracle Prediction: Bioshock >SW:BFII with 54.19% Bracket Entry: SW:BFII>Bioshock Battle Entry: Banked Vote: SW:BFII Crew Consensus: BioShock is going to BioRock |
Of course the one day you decide to post them early is the day I have to send them a bit later. I'm on to your tricks. Kleenex's Analysis Battlefront 2 lost to Legend of Dragoon in the vote-in polls (LOL!), and I think I'd probably take Bioshock to beat Uncharted 2, so this match is pretty much a no-brainer. Kinda surprised Battlefront 2 did as well as it did, so maybe it's gonna look stronger here than I initially would have suspected. Doubt it though, Bioshock should be legit. Too bad it gets fed to DARKNESS next round. Kleenex's Prediction: Bioshock with 65.11% --- This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
dammit I had the high prediction until then let's go Bioshock --- xyzzy |
Knowing my luck Bioshock will probably end up getting 64.89%. --- This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Karma Hunter still hasn't eaten his Twin Snakes disc for that one time dammit --- xyzzy |
To all people taking these vote-ins seriously, I quote from my analysis about vote-ins: People, since when have multi-way polls been taken seriously, if ever? But hey, what do I know, I'm just a BFII Fan that knows nothing. --- Lucasarts is run by a bunch of monkeys http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
I'll take vote-in poll results over "It's more popular than you think", ! --- This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
I'll take vote-in poll results over "It's more popular than you think", ! It was the second most played xbox live game for about 3 or 4 years. That's way better reasoning than vote-in polls --- Lucasarts is run by a bunch of monkeys http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
xbox live activity? those would be an awful source of strength on GameFAQs, unless you think Fifa 11 would be a beast here. I'd take Bioshock over Uncharted 2 and LOD beat Battlefront 2. I feel pretty confident about this one. --- xyzzy |
BioShock vs Star Wars BF2 I've got to admit that Battlefront's performance in the Play-In threw me for a loop, and it looks ever better now that we've seen how Legend of Dragoon is (somehow) a fairly respectable entrant in this bracket. I mean, I do remember the game having quite a bit of buzz back in '05, plus you'd have to think that the Star Wars brand name would add enough appeal to swing a few percentage points against a lesser-known opponent. But... this is BioShock, fella. Who disliked BS? NO ONE, that's who! It did well for itself on both the 360 and PS3, had a sequel to keep it fresh in everyone's minds, and now the third entry is on the way and everyone's hyped for it because- man, what an awesome first 10 minutes! (Check gametrailers for that if you haven't yet.) Pretty hard to peg a percentage here just because we don't have any solid data of either of these games, but I get the sense that whatever positive buzz BG2 had will be arriving 4 years too late compared to BioShock being one of the biggest darlings of "right now." All those positive vibes and recency should net a score of, oh, let's say the low 60s. BioShock with 63.07% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Come on Bioshock I need accuracy points. --- This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
stay away from my predictions NGamer! --- " FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO ONE CAN BE THAT DUMB" - Haguile |
dammit Kleenex uncharted 2 is so screwed --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
lol Battlefront --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Dragon Age: Origins 69.21% 25568 F-Zero GX 30.79% 11373 TOTAL VOTES 36941 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 79.38% 47034 Shenmue 20.62% 12220 TOTAL VOTES 59254 Crew Predictions - 21/28 What Happened: Obvious stuff Why it Happened: F-Zero is weak and TP is strong What will Happen: TP kills DA Crew Prediction Challenge - pointz AKJ - 24 Moltar - 22 Tran - 22 Lopen - 21 Leon - 21 Kleenex - 21 Guest - 20 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Lopen gets the point for DA and Kotetsu gets the point for TP AKJ - 7 Tran - 4 Guest - 4 (GfK: 1, BT: 1, CM: 1, Kotetsu: 1) Lopen - 4 Moltar - 3 Leon - 2 Kleenex - 2 --- Moltar Status: Bracket: Zelda TP (21/27) Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
holy crap go Bioshock --- "oh god do not search google images for "shaved bear" without turning safesearch on first" - Dauntless Hunter |
Southeast Division: Round 1 - Match 30 – (6) Kingdom Hearts II vs. (11) Halo 2 Moltar’s Analysis Kingdom Hearts II woo KH2 Halo 2 boo Halo 2 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3491 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3471 Well this certainly isn’t much of a question of who’s stronger. It’s a question of how much KH2 will beat Halo 2 by. MGS3 was about as strong as KH2 last contest so let’s stats it up for this match Moltar’s Bracket: Kingdom Hearts II > Halo 2 Moltar’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts II - 62% Lopen’s Analysis DAY VOTE KINGS COLLIDE, BE THEREEEEE. Halo 2 gonna whoop that ass, becoming the true day vote king. Can I get an OH YEAH!?!? http://wrestlegasm.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/percysad.jpg … oh... Unfortunately, as much as I'd love Halo 2 to win, this match doesn't have much potential. Even throwing out the Master Choke factor, you've gotta realize that KH looked a good amount better than Halo in the old series contest, and Halo 2 isn't as liked by series fans as KH2 is. So while a match between KH2 and Halo might be debatable, just not seein it here. Then you got the fact that Halo 2 lost to flippin WoW last year... and well, as much as I disagree, it seems that Halo 2 is a cut below Halo. In a just world, Halo 2 would be the strongest but what do I know. Er I mean GAME FUEL BELIEVE ;_; Lopen's prediction: Kingdom Hearts 2 with 56.56% Transience’s Analysis Our first legit Square game! It's about time. Nintendo has had its way so far with both Smash games, two Pokemon games, two Metroids, Mario Galaxy and TP already having its chance. Now Square gets a turn. This match isn't in question - KH2 is scary close to RE4 while Halo is.. well, yeah. The most interesting thing about this match is Halo vs. KH during the day vote - who's stronger? We'll find out today. I'm not sure what to expect here besides to just go off previous results. Some people have gone nuts thinking Halo's had a resurgence because it beat a bottom-of-the-barrel Mario game and a bottom-tier character action game. In reality, it's probably about as strong as it always has been. Metal Gear Solid 3 and KH2 were approximately equal last year if you measure through Resident Evil 4, and MGS3 got 62% on Halo 2. I'll go a little bit lower because I don't think KH is universally liked. Then again, the same is true of Halo. Both will look a little worse in 1v1 matches. I do think KH2 could take MGS3, though, just due to the fact that one is a Square RPG and one is not. transience's prediction: Kingdom Hearts 2 with 61.34% Leon’s Analysis Ah, a battle of day vote kings in a day match! It should be interesting to see how these two games do with the day vote against each other. Unfortunately, that’s about the only interesting thing about this match. You’ve got “Almost beat RE4 twice” vs. “Lost to World of Warcraft and was losing to Okami overnight.” I’ve heard some concern that KH is losing a step due to how poorly Sora and company did in the last Character Battle, but the KH series has had some surprisingly good performances in some recent POTDs, so I’m not TOO worried about that. Besides, I doubt the series has lost enough of a step even if it has to lose to BioShock or MW2 (spoilers). It definitely hasn’t lost enough of a step to blow this one. Leonhart’s Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I actually liked Reaction Commands in KH2. So what if I enjoy style over substance in some things in my games? KH games aren’t hard anyway. What’s wrong with making them flashier? Leonhart’s Vote: Kingdom Hearts II. Leonhart’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts II with 61.88% |
Kleenex’s Analysis Well, the other two Halo games did well enough for themselves earlier in the bracket. Halo 2 gets no such luck. It's the weakest Halo game in the original trilogy, and Kingdom Hearts is no Mario Sunshine or Ninja Gaiden. This should be a pretty impressive win for KH2, and then we can all gossip about whether it'll beat KH1 a couple rounds down the line. How exciting. Kleenex's Prediction: Kingdom Hearts II with 66.45% Applekidjosh’s Analysis Aw yeah CAN YOU BELIEVE IT I'VE PLAYED BOTH OF THESE GAMES!! In fact both of them are the last in their series that I played! I undoubtedly had more fun for a longer time with Halo 2, but Kingdom Hearts still has its legions of fans while Halo 2 gets a lot of flak even from Halo fans. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3472 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3491 would you take Halo 2 over Resident Evil 4 or Twilight Princess? hahaha yeah this won't be close. AKJ says Kingdom Hearts 2 > Halo 2 with 60.00% Guest’s Analysis - dragon22391 So we've got Kingdom Hearts 2, a game that can hang with RE4, versus Halo 2, a game that can hang with uhh World of Warcraft. All the GAME FUEL in the world couldn't save Halo 2 here! I've got KH2 > KH1, so I'm hoping it comes out and tears Halo 2 to shreds. Don't think it will, though! Looking for a pretty respectable win. Probably going a bit lower than I should, but hey. Kingdom Hearts 2 with 62.71% Crew Consensus: Kingdom Hearts the superior 2 today. |
My first thought on seeing the poll: uh oh Uncharted 2 is in trouble --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
whatisurnameplz Bioshock >SW:BFII with 54.19% This is why NGirl should've been the guest this match. --- I mean seriously WHAT? |
uh Leonhart that's not embarrassing at all, those were my favorite part! --- Porre either became an aristocratic mercantile state or a placid direct democracy depending on if the lady who ran an inn was able to serve people beef jerky. |
Kingdom Hearts 2 vs Halo 2 Now, here's a real moral conundrum for a Crewmate such as myself. I've been hammering on the old "tons of people strongly dislike Kingdom Hearts, you just haven't seen it much due to 4ways" drum for years now (and it sure came in handy for me earlier this year; Bowser >> Sora like I said all along, EAT IT LEON!). But on the other hand, I've been calling Halo the ultimate choke artist for even longer- plus I'm betting H2 will be the chokiest of them all (H3 is still basically being played right now, in ODST/Reach format, while H1 has all that "respect/importance vote" that seems to be big this season). When it doubt, split it right down the middle! KH's fanbase makes it tough to beat but easy to keep under a doubling, while Reach is keeping Halo hot enough that it should be able to limit the damage moreso than usual. Let's go with something just a touch under 60, in that case. Kingdom Hearts II with 58.92% --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com If I were you I'd search B8 for The Show, the cool Ng/yoblazer Contest podcast! |
Two accuracy points in one day? Well I never. --- This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Maybe not, curses. --- This is the kind of shit that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
just wait for the kids to get home and uh well damn --- "Luster, you are a delight" ~NGamer "Yes, yes I am." ~ Luster Soldier |
just wait for the kids to get home and uh well damn Don't worry, you're still getting the accuracy point. This'll end up like 60-40. Halo has almost 41% already in US. it'll be win the ASV. --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
Albion,
how many times do you have to be told the ASV is a completely different
demographic? Halo being >40% in the US right now doesn't mean
anything, it could still rise or fall with the ASV. My guess is the ASV
will favor KH but it's really anyone's guess right now, one of the
highlights of this match is finally finding out who of KH and Halo has
the better ASV. --- "Dr_Football runs alongside balefire watching marshmallows stop existing" |
Let's not forget that GTAIV was winning NA before the ASV, where it got killed. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
eh, not much to say here. pretty much as expected. KH2 looking pretty decent but 2% isn't something to freak out about. you guys know better than to argue with Albion on trends! dude just makes things up. --- xyzzy |
I
swear, and I'm not joking here, I've never seen Albion call a trend
correctly. Now admittedly this is the first contest I've been properly
following stats with (and even then not every match with), but still his
success rate is awful. I actually feel a bit better about KH2's chances of holding on for a 65-35 win now! --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Halo's gonna win the ASV because it's Halo. Hail to the day vote king baby (ouch at this match ;_;) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
From: Eeeevil Overlord | #081 Probably because he actually thinks Geolocation predicts trends, even though this has been repeatedly debunked (often with him playing the fool as a result). --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Man Albion is far from the only guy who uses those things. So many people shout "California" all the time and it usually doesn't matter as much as you'd think. The reason for that being of course because people use California's pre-ASV percentage to gauge its effects on the ASV, which is just full of holes to begin with. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
California only works for Street Fighter anyway! And yeah, I know Albion's not the only guy who uses them, but his knowledge of trends is by far the most laughable since he really thought a 65/35 match would end up 60/40. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
So Albion predicted Halo 2, which had 41% in the US, would win the after school vote. After one hour, we have Halo 2 on 38.06% in the US <_<. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Halo's gonna come roaring back, suckers, just wait. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
LOL Halo 2 Time to put all your hopes and dreams into another Halo! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Well I never had my dreams with Halo 2. I'm just saying it's going to win this match once the kiddies wake up. Halo to take its division though believe. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4098®ion=USXME See that? Once that ASV hits full force Halo is gonna chew this poll up. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Halo with the superior day vote. I kinda figured that, but it's not by much. in a weird way I kinda feel good about this since the Bioshock match will be at night. --- xyzzy |
Eh,
KH2 getting 64% is enough to make me feel fine about the BioShock
match. BioShock isn't a night game anyway. Its trends (and Big Daddy's
trends, too) have been more day-oriented. KH2 would've really had to
struggle here for me to think BioShock could win next round. "Equal to
Halo 3" to "65% on Halo 2" is too big of a leap. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
This is why NGirl should've been the guest this match. Please. At least I offered variety. --- Lucasarts is run by a bunch of monkeys http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
And
to all of these people who are like "lol battlefront" and that shit,
why the fuck would you want a guest to provide an analysis that is the
same as everyone else? Why does this board have to have a unimind? And
for those of you who are like "oh this game looks dumb because it isn't
some super japanese strategy rpg involving a war of the robots"? Most of
you haven't even played the game! I have put over 400 hours into that
game, and I know that it is a damn good game! From this day forth I vow to vote for the underdog in every match I vote in, regardless of what my bracket is. And I vow to mercilessly laugh at you all when you pick the favored game and it doesn't win. --- Lucasarts is run by a bunch of monkeys http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
From: whatisurnameplz | #093 Yeah, that'll really show everyone. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
whoa,
rage over your game losing. sorry that a game you like got blitzed, but
accuracy generally trumps being 'different'. I appreciate you going
with a different prediction and all but if you're way off, don't expect
people to high-five you. --- xyzzy |
besides, if you want to laugh at us for making an incorrect prediction, you'll have to get in line! --- xyzzy |
whoa,
rage over your game losing. sorry that a game you like got blitzed, but
accuracy generally trumps being 'different'. I appreciate you going
with a different prediction and all but if you're way off, don't expect
people to high-five you. But that doesn't mean they have to be like jer...oh wait this is an internet message board. Never-mind. But what really just gets me annoyed was that I legitimately thought BFII could win, even if it was a slim chance. Just seeing that not only I was wrong, but wasn't even close to being right... What makes that even worse is that there were a few games that WERE upsets that nobody even saw coming. Whatever, I am just so annoyed. If I ever play BioShock, it better be THE greatest game I ever played. Not only that, but it better blow my favorite game, BFII, out of the water. If it doesn't meet my expectations, I will be very disappointed. You guys won't be hearing from me anymore. I got all of that stuff out of my system. --- Lucasarts is run by a bunch of monkeys http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
we've
all had our moments of nerd rage at this contest in the past, so it's
cool. thing is, most of us have been around a long time so at this
point, most results don't offend us or make us happy. they're just
popularity polls, and Battlefront is pretty small on GameFAQs. Shadow
Hearts is my favourite series of the past few years and it gets ripped
to pieces by a Speck of Dust. that's fine. --- xyzzy |
From: whatisurnameplz | #097 If I ever play BioShock, it better be THE greatest game I ever played. It will be! --- My word on it. |
I'm still waiting for Persona 3 and 4 to win their matches so I can rejoice! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/Mach+Tornado.png |