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Best Game Ever 2 Contest Analysis Crew (Part Four)

ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:23:03 PM | message detail | filter | #351
Hey, I'd switch back to FFVIII now if I could !

All about catching up to that lead tbqh

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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:25:47 PM | message detail | filter | #352
do it! I triple dog dare you
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:26:25 PM | message detail | filter | #353
in all honesty, I'm scared of RBY here. I feel weird putting it under 20%. over the years I've decided that Pokemon just does whatever the **** it wants. it needs no reason to kick ass or flop hard.
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:26:30 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #354
i can still delete the post!

(i mean please let me i'm so out of it i put FF8 > MGS augh)
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Moltar Status: complete global saturation
Match 52 - Bracket: FF7 > CT - Vote: Goldeneye (215/304)
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:26:56 PM | message detail | filter | #355
Less about me, more about Moltar! I'd do it if it he doesn't care.

Who knew you'd take MGS after saying FFVIII = CT !

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BDawg | Posted 5/28/2009 9:32:27 PM | message detail | filter | #356
I usually have PokeFEAR myself but when it's bleeping OoT I gotta be looking for low to mid teens personally.
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:33:37 PM | message detail | filter | #357
haha. that whole time I was like "oh man someone is going to kill me for this pick."

get ready for some RPG SFF between Pokemon and FF8 MGS wins easy
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 9:35:28 PM | message detail | filter | #358
KP's Super Unofficial Analysis

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Submit.

RBY: 35%
OoT: 32%
FF8: 18%
MGS: 15%

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ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:37:00 PM | message detail | filter | #359
I could see either MGS or FFVIII advancing today. I think whichever wins is likely to be the stronger of the two, which probably favors FFVIII a bit. Rootin' for MGS here, though.

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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:44:55 PM | message detail | filter | #360
I think FF8 is by far the most likely to bomb. it could win this poll with ease but it could also lose it the same way.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 9:46:13 PM | message detail | filter | #361
Why does FF8 have any reason to bomb? We've already seen it in action with Ocarina, and didn't bomb with FFIX holding it back.

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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:47:39 PM | message detail | filter | #362
I just don't trust it. a big performance on Starcraft -- a game nobody trusts -- and a SFF match. remember when we excused FF4's round 2 match? yeah.
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ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:49:38 PM | message detail | filter | #363
Maybe. I think FFVIII's done a decent job of proving itself the past couple of rounds, unless SC is far weaker than anyone figured. MGS's match against Pokemon RBY was really impressive to me, though, even with all the Nintendo SFF. Definitely makes me think it's the least likely to fall here against another Nintendo split. The only thing I'd worry about is that FFVIII might make MGS look worse than it normally would. Hard to forget that FFVII/MGS match in 2k4.

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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:50:40 PM | message detail | filter | #364
yeah.

also hard to forget Snake beating Cloud!
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ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:52:59 PM | message detail | filter | #365
Ha. True!

We'll see how it goes. We'll probably know how this ends early on.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 9:55:17 PM | message detail | filter | #366
I think any of these three games could win with ease or be in last place by a wide margin. I really don't know.
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Lopen | Posted 5/28/2009 10:39:54 PM | message detail | filter | #367
Wow FFVIII with massive support. Half choosing it with less than 0.1% breathing room.

Fanboyz.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 10:52:37 PM | message detail | filter | #368
transience | Posted 5/28/2009 10:58:45 PM | message detail | filter | #369
RBY domination time
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/28/2009 10:59:26 PM | message detail | filter | #370
Got caught up with some stuff so writeup will come later, but here's my pick for tonight:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 39.38%
Metal Gear Solid - 20.35%
Final Fantasy VIII - 20.32%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - 19.95%

Fully expecting the Tranny Curse to continue. Though I guess from his perspective it's the Tranny Blessing.

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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 11:05:21 PM | message detail | filter | #371
I'm liking the tranny curse to continue here.

hail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 11:37:47 PM | message detail | filter | #372
transience | Posted 5/28/2009 11:38:39 PM | message detail | filter | #373
I still like MGS here!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/29/2009 12:02:14 AM | message detail | filter | #374
Ngamer's Rebellious Writeup

Wow, alright, so I jumped the gun a little bit. Clearly I was wrong and FF7 is still very much in contention for the #1 position on this site; actually this performance is so impressive you could even make a good case for it having earned back its favorite status! Let's check the numbers. Hm... looking to finish with about 65.5% on CT directly, up from the 58 it managed five years ago. That's nice, but not exactly unexpected- between revenge votes and bandwagon votes and being the only Nintendo option and Finals in generally being screwy, CT had all kinds of reasons to overperform in that Championship match. What really wows me is that FF7 is going to end up with over 53% versus the N64's #2 and #3 options combined (plus over 65% on Mario alone)... and that despite (presumably) losing a decent number of votes to the other Square RPG in the poll. Good gracious! In other news, I'm a little surprised that Mario had so much more trouble putting CT away this round compared to last, but I'm just going to go ahead and chalk that up to GE's incredible SFF-resisting power. Look out MGS, GE will be gunnin' for ya in BGE 2011! Oh yeah and more good news: this was an incredibly popular poll, looks like it will finish with the 2nd biggest total so far this year... but I think tonight's will shoot even higher!

So we're heading out of one massively hyped poll that ended up being quite entertaining, and heading right into... hopefully the exact same thing! Actually this one could be even better, since we have two very cool storylines to keep track of, namely "Can Ocarina once again outperform FF7?" and "Who the heck takes second out of that train wreck below OoT?" Let's start with the latter.

I really like Pokemon's chances in this one. After seeing how close it came to matching MGS last round despite pretty much the worst circumstances imaginable, I think you'd have to be out of your head to argue that R/B/Y isn't naturally the strongest of these choices (at least within the 4way format). Yes, common sense dictates that having the strongest Nintendo-based entrant in history on the other side of the poll would be enough to give the PSX choices an edge, but since when has Pokemon and/or Pikachu ever cared one wit about common sense? I've got to imagine Pika makes one or both of these mature titles more than a little bit nervous once his ASV starts to kick in.

Now I'm sure everyone's sick to death of hearing me say how disappointing MGS1's "mere" 33% was last time around given the competition, so I'll skip that speech just quickly say that, surprisingly, I like MGS to top FF8 tonight. That's by no means intended as a slap in the face for 8- it wowed me in R1 and made the best of a bad situation last time around, and actually I wouldn't hesitate to pick FF8 > MGS if this were a 1v1 situation. But instead its a 4way, the format where MGS and Snake have always excelled while FF has oftentimes dropped the ball- plus its an EXTREME 4way situation in that the Nintendo options are a lock to be eating up 55-60% of the incoming votes, turning this into a Race For 20. When it comes to managing just 1/5th of the votes in a poll on any subject, I want that super dedicated MGS fanbase to have my back every time! Plus you just know the fans will never allow this series to lose a close match; a very nice added bonus in a poll this hyped.

Yup, so OoT >>> MGS > (by a sliver!) FF8 > (by another sliver!) > Pokemon, final answer.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 39.38%
Metal Gear Solid - 20.35%
Final Fantasy VIII - 20.32%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - 19.95%

Come onnnnn fatal threeway, let's spice this Contest up!

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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/29/2009 12:13:37 AM | message detail | filter | #375
Whoops, did I say 60% for the Nintendo options? Looks more like 63! Granted that going to be going way down once Europe wakes up, but honestly, could you imagine any bigger Day Vote studs than Ocarina and R/B/Y? Got to imagine they could easily get all that percentage back!

(Also glad to see that the Tranny Curse worked its magic on FF8, at least.)

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transience | Posted 5/29/2009 12:16:03 AM | message detail | filter | #376
alright, I give. MGS suckin' now that the night cometh. even FF8 is stalling it now.
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Lopen | Posted 5/29/2009 12:16:15 AM | message detail | filter | #377
MGS plummeting after the power hour.

Pokemanz gots this. Looks like a hit.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:16:33 AM | message detail | filter | #378
Yeah, this one's over.

OoT/SSBM/RBY/FFX

...That should be very interesting indeed.
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Lopen | Posted 5/29/2009 12:17:16 AM | message detail | filter | #379
RBY > Melee believe
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 12:18:02 AM | message detail | filter | #380
I was worried that with Kleenex stealing my rightful spot as the Guest for this match, the Analysis Crew would be doomed to failure yet again. Good thing Lopen was here to pick up the slack!

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/29/2009 1:05:58 AM | message detail | filter | #381
@Master Moltar: I get to be the guest for Brawl's match, right?
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/29/2009 8:48:42 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #382
Division 6: Round 3 - Match 54 – Final Fantasy X vs. Kingdom Hearts vs. Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. Diablo II: Lord of Destruction

Moltar’s Analysis

Final Fantasy X
Round 1 - 45.92% vs. Metal Gear Solid 2, Morrowind and Silent Hill 2
Round 2 - 31.49% vs. Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid 2 and Vice City

KH giving you some trouble?

Kingdom Hearts
Round 1 - 38.95% vs. Vice City, Metroid Prime and Paper Mario
Round 2 - 27.74% vs. Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2 and Vice City

Doesn’t let itself get held back by Final Fantasy again

Super Smash Bros. Melee
Round 1 - 48.58% vs. Vice City, Metroid Prime and Paper Mario
Round 2 - 36.97% vs. Diablo II, Wind Waker and Halo

Not bad, Melee

Diablo II
Round 1 - 27.43% vs. Metal Gear Solid 2, Morrowind and Silent Hill
Round 2 - 25.12% vs. Super Smash Bros. Melee, Wind Waker and Halo

D2 easily beats out SFFed Wind Waker and Halo

I have Melee > FFX here. It’s weird too because I had Metroid Prime and Halo this match too. So I guess I thought that Prime wouldn’t hurt Melee at all and it would still beat FFX. Or maybe I just completely forgot I had Prime here and only looked at “SSBM vs. FFX”.

Melee should have first here, as the only game that could challenge it here is FFX, and that’s going to be fighting off KH. Diablo did well last round and has a good shot at second, especially if the dreaded Square split hurts FFX too badly.

Still, MGS2 couldn’t capitalize in the FFX/KH split, and we’ve seen plenty of time already that if you aren’t strong enough, you won’t be able to take advantage of that split. Diablo 2 has looked good, but I think the competition is just too much here. FFX and KH look to be Top games, and Melee is even higher. I think FFX will hold off KH once again and end up in a distant second to SSBM.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: SSBM > FFX

Moltar’s Prediction is: SSBM: 34% - FFX: 26% - Kingdom Hearts: 20% - Diablo II: 20%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

I always had a feeling that Kingdom Hearts would impress this contest. There's reason that Sora's gone from getting beaten by Aeris handily to beating her handily. It doesn't hurt that the series has become Square's number three, behind Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest. Still, for all that I thought KH would be legit, I didn't figure it'd manage to hang as close to FFX as it did.

If MGS2 had been here instead of KH, I think FFX would have beaten Melee. Even for all the Nintendo boost over the years, I don't think Melee beats FFX any worse -- or even at all -- than it did in 2k4. It's not going to get a shot at beating Melee today thanks to Kingdom Hearts, but it should still be able to hang pretty close, enough that any doubt about its chances next round against three Nintendo games should be erased. If it won last round despite KH, there's not much reason to think it won't advance here as well.

As far as Diablo goes, I don't think it's going to end up anywhere but last. It's the most 'unique' game here, but I also think it's clearly out of its league. It can't compare to Smash Bros., Final Fantasy, and Kingdom Hearts, which means it'll probably look worse than it should. The best I could see it doing is maybe third place, if KH doesn't hold up as well this round as last -- the only reason I could think of for this is that it loses more votes to Melee.

This match probably doesn't tell us much, and probably won't be very exciting. C'mon FFX time to pull off the upsetz

Super Smash Bros. Melee -- 32%
Final Fantasy X -- 28%
Kingdom Hearts -- 24%
Diablo II -- 16%

Bracket: Final Fantasy X > Melee
Favorites: Final Fantasy X > Kingdom Hearts
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/29/2009 8:48:55 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #383
Lopen’s Analysis

I'd assume most are gonna say "open and shut case SSBM > FFX" but I'm not too convinced. Sure, it's come in looking the strongest, but Diablo 2 had a pretty high vote retention rate between rounds. If it keeps that up, then this match suddenly becomes debatable. Dropping from 27% to 25% despite KotoR being replaced by SSBM is no small task. Assuming it drops by 2% again, it might have enough to win this if SSBM beasts on this pack.

That's a lot of ifs and assumptions, though. Give me FFX here. I don't think SSBM is gonna pound this pack into the dirt. FFX and Kingdom Hearts are going to come in and show what games that aren't weak or SFFed do to it. Final Fantasy X definitely gonna have some upset grumblings here for next round.

Boring, I know.

Lopen's Prediction:
SSBM - 29.73%
Final Fantasy X - 26.10%
Kingdom Hearts - 23.02%
Diablo 2 - 21.15%



Transience’s Analysis

Final Fantasy X is overrated.

I hate using the O word, but it's kinda true. It has never had a single impressive performance, at least not according to its lofty expectations. It couldn't triple Shenmue, couldn't even double freaking FFTA. Seriously, who votes FFTA over FFX? Its one notable performance is against Melee, where it got 49% -- but this is 2004 Melee, a game that let MGS2 get 43% and Vice City get 46%. FFX showed it's not weak, but it also wasn't strong. This year, it's gotten an all right showing against MGS2 and nearly lost to Kingdom Hearts. I give Kingdom Hearts a good amount of credit, but it should never be even close to a game that's talked up as much as FFX is. We're talking about the clear favourite for the finals.

FFX's one argument to its name is that Game of the Century poll, but how serious can you take that with all that Nintendo in the way? That was just excessive. The one thing I give it credit for in that poll is the distance between it and RE4, but I dunno. FFX doesn't strike me as a game that's going to do all that great, and with FF8 underwhelming today I step back and say "hmm...". I don't think it loses here - Diablo 2 is not that strong - but I do think we'll see an underwhelming performance.

Fortunately for FFX, I also think Melee is overrated.

I'm not willing to put Diablo 2 very high, especially after Starcraft's bomb and Warcraft's over-hype. I think it's a decent game, but nothing worthy of cutting a top 10 game on this site. I've always been skeptical of Melee. In 2006 this would have been a top 5 game no question, but now that we're over Brawl hype we can safely say that it's not all that great. Like FFX, Melee has no good performances to its name. Its round 1 and 2 matches were pretty meh. We'll be looking at this match as two heavyweights with KH weighing FFX down, but I'm not sure if either are top 10 quality.

I think RBY could beat both of these in a neutral setting.

I think tonight's match goes similar to Squall/Sora/Sonic in 2007. Like that match, there won't be too much overlap. FFX does surprisingly well overnight thanks to an awesome night vote vs. an awful Melee night vote, only to see Melee go wild when the sun rises. This match is like FF7 vs. OOT-lite with its trends. I also think Square fans will abandon KH now that it's survived round 2. It's time for the big boys to come out and play - this means FFX and KH. Let's see if FFX can make a match of this. I'm gonna need to see FFX vs. something I trust more than Melee though before I anoint it to the finals. Let's see how it does against Ocarina next round - it's got every conceivable advantage going into it.

transience's prediction:

Super Smash Bros. Melee - 32%
Final Fantasy X - 27%
Kingdom Hearts - 21%
Diablo 2 - 20%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/29/2009 8:49:51 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #384
Leonhart’s Analysis

Final Fantasy X: Final Fantasy X won first place with ease last round, though it did have quite a bit of trouble with Kingdom Hearts’ ASV. Thanks to another Square game coming along, we won’t get to see a traditional FFX/SSBM rematch, and OoT will be there next round, so we won’t get to see it then either, which is a bit disappointing. I want to see how close FFX can get to it though. There are probably some that think Diablo II can pull off the upset. It’s certainly possible (because virtually nothing is impossible in this format), but it’s gonna need a big bandwagon to do so. FFX/KH LFF isn’t massive, though it is noticeable. MGS2 couldn’t take advantage of it though, and I doubt Diablo II is much stronger than that, if at all. FFX should be safe here, though it’ll be in second place.

Kingdom Hearts: If you want to give out a “Most Improved Award,” I think this is probably the game you have to give it to here. It barely beat SoulCalibur and lost handily to StarCraft last time around, and now it’s hanging not too far from FFX and easily beating MGS2 and Vice City, games that probably would’ve beaten it last time. I don’t think Kingdom Hearts can win here because there’s really no reason for it to turn around the SFF and beat FFX with it, but it should still do respectably. Watching Kingdom Hearts and Melee fight it out during the ASV should be interesting though.

Super Smash Bros. Melee: Melee looked pretty good in round one, but the last match was kinda so-so. I can admit that Diablo II is probably stronger than we gave it credit for, but I still didn’t think it’d manage 40% on Melee. You might be able to chalk some of that up to LFF with The Wind Waker though. Regardless, Melee absolutely should not lose this match. It has no reason to lose, especially now that Kingdom Hearts has tagged along for the ride with Final Fantasy X. The question is how much SSBM will capitalize on it.

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction: The only Blizzard game to make it past round two was the only one that didn’t get a hype train going before the contest. There were several people who thought StarCraft and World of Warcraft could “rally” their way deep into the bracket, but they’re gone now. Diablo II is still here, and that’s because it’s legitimately the strongest Blizzard game we have. Can it pull off a StarCraft-esque run here? It’d have to be getting a bandwagon going to do so, because I don’t think it’s strong enough to take advantage of FFX/KH LFF, which isn’t a huge hindrance to either game. I think it probably gets last here, but I won’t be surprised to see another wacky Blizzard match.

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy X! Time for revenge for 2004!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Final Fantasy X – 26.99%
Kingdom Hearts – 23.51%
Super Smash Bros. Melee – 30.48%
Diablo II – 19.02%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/29/2009 8:50:09 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #385
Guest’s Analysis - Luis_Sera89

Oh hey, it’s that long awaited rematch we’ve been wondering about all these years! But instead of FFX getting its revenge on a SSBM held down by Metroid Prime, as I initially thought, we’ve got Melee beating FFX even worse this second time thanks to the presence of Kingdom Hearts, which looks very decent in its own right. Seems this one’s fairly straightforward then! (oh god don’t jinx it again)

SSBM was already looking good going into this, SFFing the already fanbase-sapped Wind Waker twice, and staying a healthy 11% ahead of Diablo, but Kingdom Hearts makes it’s probable imminent win over FFX even more inevitable, with the complete opposite way in which the Square fanbase decided to operate. Rather than side overwhelmingly with the stronger game, it split in a big way, and KH didn’t seem affected by being in the same poll as FFX at all. It seems to be the only game in that bizarre Starcraft 8-pack that retained any great deal of pride at all this contest. It’s at the very least top 30 in the pecking order, and possibly even top 20. It’s coming 3rd here (SSBM neutering it’s ASV kills any hopes it had of reversing last round) but it’s been impressive this contest.

As far as the other half of the 128 division is concerned, SSBM and FFX have looked fine. Yes, KH was closer to FFX than we thought, but it’s still looking good to progress further in the contest, whereas Melee is about to run into OoT/RBY sandwich (possibly! Who knows how today is going to pan out at the time of writing). Even with MGS there, it’s probably coming 3rd at best. As for Diablo, well, it certainly seems to be the best of a bad bunch as far as Blizzard is concerned this year. It probably won’t go too low, but it doesn’t have a cat in hell’s chance of placing here. This match is all about how high SSBM goes, giving an insight into how it’ll do next round, as little as that will probably mean. We’ve seen Square failing to take advantage of Nintendo splits already, but Ten is no Four!

FFX – 26%
Kingdom Hearts – 24%
SSBM – 34.5%
Diablo II – 15.5%


Crew Consensus: Looks like a SSBM > FFX sweep
Ed Bellis | Posted 5/29/2009 10:05:13 PM | message detail | filter | #386
uhhh i think i'll use my 'get out of doing a writeup free' card tonight

sorry !
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Ed Bellis | Posted 5/29/2009 10:27:22 PM | message detail | filter | #387
okay fine you talked me into it


Match 54

FFX looked reeeeally weak last round, while SSBM looked pretty strong. The other two games aren’t in their league. Easy pick!

now watch the crew get embarrassed yet again

Final Fantasy X with 27%
Kingdom Hearts with 24%
Super Smash Bros. Melee with 35%
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction with 14%



(feel free to discount this if you want)
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/30/2009 12:22:49 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #388
Final Fantasy VII---41.25% 55076
GoldenEye 007-----14.59% 19486
Super Mario 64-----22.58% 30149
Chrono Trigger------21.58% 28812
TOTAL VOTES---------------133523

Results - CT fought until the sun came up, but the ASV sealed its fate. Mario 64 advances along with FF7, which actually dominated for once.


Post-Match Comments - With 2 fanbase splits here, it was hard to see where things would go. FF7 rocked CT, which is a bit strange since the last time they fought, CT did much better. Finals overpeformance last time, I guess. Mario 64 was finally brought back down to Earth here too. If FF7 can perform this well against strong competition, then it's looking good to win again.


Next Round Preview - LttP/FF6/FF7/Mario 64...shouldn't be too hard to call this.

Metal Gear Solid---------------------------------20.94% 27026
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow-------------------22.63% 29209
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time-----38.7% 49944
Final Fantasy VIII--------------------------------17.72% 22867
TOTAL VOTES-----------------------------------------------129046

Matches Completely Correct - 33
Matches Partially Correct - 20
Matches Completely Wrong - 0


Results - Pokemanz wins again. OoT isn't able to SFF it enough to beat MGS or FF8. FF8 in particular looks bad here.


Post-Match Comments - OoT finally looks weaker than FF7 for the first time this contest. As for Pokemon, hell, it looks like it held back OoT more than got hurt by it. MGS gets its 20% as expected, but with Pokemon holding up, it just wasn't enough. FF8 underperforming could mean that MGS was able to hurt it here.


Next Round Preview - Can Pokemon advancing with OoT AND Melee there?


Crew Prediction Challenge - Lopen Upset Special!

Tran - 36
Guest - 31
HM - 30
Moltar - 30
Leon - 25
Ed - 22
Lopen - 22


Crew Accuracy Challenge - TRT gets the point for FFVII, Leon gets the point for SM64, HM gets the point for CT, and Tran gets the point for Goldeneye. HM gets the point for OoT and MGS, Tran gets the point for FF8, and Lopen gets the point for RBY

HM - 52
Moltar - 46
Tran - 38
Guest (Luster, Zylo (3), HaRR, Kleenex (2), Soul, TRT (2), KP (4), Chaotic, Ngamer, GfK (3), Trout (3), BDawg (2), Luis, LMS (3), War, Ngirl, Mr3790 (3)) - 33
Ed - 24
Lopen - 24
Leon - 24
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Moltar Status: complete global saturation
Match 54 - Bracket: SSBM > FFX - Vote: SSBM (231/336)
transience | Posted 5/30/2009 4:46:05 AM | message detail | filter | #389
boring day
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/30/2009 3:33:28 PM | message detail | filter | #390
Yep.
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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/30/2009 8:39:04 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #391
Division 7: Round 3 - Match 55 – Metal Gear Solid 3 vs. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion vs. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess vs. Resident Evil 4

Moltar’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid 3
Round 1 - 35.35% vs. World of Warcraft, Halo 2 and Okami
Round 2 - 31.67% vs. Diablo II, World of Warcraft and Tales of Symphonia

SNAKE EATERRRRRRRRR

Oblivion
Round 1 - 26.79% vs. Tales of Symphonia, God of War and San Andreas
Round 2 - 24.88% vs. Metal Gear Solid 3, World of Warcraft and Tales of Symphonia

More like Doomed

Twilight Princess
Round 1 - 39.10% vs. Half-Life 2, Final Fantasy XII, and Phoenix Wright
Round 2 - 28.47% vs. Resident Evil 4, Kingdom Hearts II and Half-Life 2

great/8.8

Resident Evil 4
Round 1 - 34.17% vs. Kingdom Hearts II, Shadow of the Colossus and Gears of War
Round 2 - 27.00% vs. Twilight Princess, Kingdom Hearts II and Half-Life 2

Not going to let Nintendo hold it back!

*We now interrupt this regularly scheduled analysis to tell you that this is sponsored by…Umbrella.*

Previously, the fight between Link and Terra was interrupted by Mario. Knowing that she couldn’t defeat both Link and Mario, she reluctantly agreed to let both inside Centro Midgar.

A world united,
Becomes divided,
War starts without fail
Now witness the tale
Intermission…

12: Access Denied

*On an elevator inside the main Centro Midgar tower*

Terra: This elevator will take us to Head Captain Strife’s main quarters. There, you can meet him and talk about this whole situation.

Link: Thanks Terra.

Terra: Don’t get me wrong, I still don’t trust you two. That’s why I’m coming along to monitor the both of you. Make one wrong move and you’re dead.

Mario: Don’t worry about us. We plan to stop all of this fighting once and for all.

*The elevator reaches the top floor and stops. The door opens to reveal a large room. Terra, Link and Mario step out of the elevator.*

???: That’s far enough.

Terra: Huh? Captain Leonhart? What are you doing here?

???: We’re here because we were ordered to be here.

Terra: Captain Tidus too?

Squall: Head Captain Strife told us to let no one except verified Squad members pass.

Terra: But these two said that they had no intention of attacking us. We have to let Cloud know that.

Tidus: Sorry, but orders are orders.

Link: Do you guys even know who told you that we were planning an attack?

Squall: Cloud did, of course.

Mario: And who told him?

Tidus *he and Squall look at each other* According to Cloud, it was a trusted source. The rest is classified information.

Link: Now that’s suspicious…

Terra: Where are the other members of Squad 7?

Squall: They were dispatched to Nintendo a short while ago.

Mario: What? But why?!

Tidus: Because we recently spotted Nintendo ships approaching Cuadrado.

*Link and Mario look at each other with fear in their eyes*

Terra: So it’s going to begin, a war between the lands. Squall! Tidus! Let me through now, I need to speak with Cloud!

Squall: Very well, you can pass. However, Link and Mario cannot.

Terra: Alright, I’ll go on ahead while you two wait here. *Terra runs past Squall and Tidus and enters into the next room.*

Mario: So the two biggest countries are on the verge of war, and we’re stuck here waiting. Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

Link: Yeah, we don’t have time to wait. We have to act now!

*Link and Mario start to charge at Squall and Tidus*

~*To Be Continued*~

I have TP > RE4 in my bracket. I also had MGS3 and some other game here (I don’t remember and I’m too lazy to check), but TP and RE4 are easily the strongest games here.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/30/2009 8:39:21 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #392
Well, you take out one popular PS2 game and one PC/360 game and put in another popular PS2 game and PC/360 game and you get the same result on a different day. TP/RE4 should do pretty similar to last time. It doesn’t look like KH2 or HL2 affected either game, and I doubt MGS3 and Oblivion will either.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: TP > RE4

Moltar’s Prediction is: TP: 32% - Resident Evil 4: 30% - MGS3: 22% - Oblivion: 16%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

So we're down to three top tier games left in the contest -- Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy X, and Metal Gear Solid 3. Given the shrinking numbers each round, I think it's about time to pull for the big upsetz and hope for the best.

Most people probably don't give MGS3 much of a chance here, but I think its chances are better than what's being given credit. TP hardly looked untouchable last round, when it nearly let RE4 pull a win over it, and KH2 get awfully close. All of these games are probably around the same level of strength, though MGS3 may be the weakest. The logical choice is probably TP > RE4 here...

Too bad there's a MGS3 fanboy in the way

So you've got Zelda, Resident Evil, and Elder Scrolls. Zelda more like 8.8 who cares about this mess, Oblivion more like Oblolivion no one even plays Elder Scrollz, and Resident Evil more like can't hear you over all these TANK CONTROLS. The one to vote for here is obvious -- Leon Suck Kennedy gets his head chopped off by mindless zombies; Link gets owned by something called a 'darknut,' and Oblivion doesn't even have a main character because it sux. Big Boss jumped into Russia from an airplane, choked some BEES, stared at a hot chick's chest, lost an eye, drowned, said '**** this' and came back to life, and then CQC'd a tank

Who do you prefer GameFAQs

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our victory is imminent

Twilight Princess -- 30%
Metal Gear Solid 3 -- 28%
Resident Evil 4 -- 27%
Oblivion -- 15%

Bracket: Twilight Princess > Resident Evil 4
Favorites: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Resident Evil 4



Lopen’s Analysis

Boring match today. Not to say it's COMPLETELY not debatable... but uhhh... really... boils down to "well folks I believe Twilight Princess and RE4 had tougher roads to get here but bah gawd MGS3 has HEART dammit bah gawd. This'll be a slobberknocker."

Twilight Princess beat RE4 comfortably enough that that isn't too debatable this time. On the MGS side, no real SFF factors here, and almost entirely newcomers on both sides... basically it's all speculation as to whether MGS3 has a chance here. Personally, I don't think it has one. Analysis over SORRY GUYS

Lopen's Prediction:
Twilight Princess - 29.73%
Resident Evil 4 - 29.02%
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 23.61%
Oblivion - 17.64%



Transience’s Analysis

Well, this is one of the few boring matches left. We saw TP beat RE4 last week and if the overlap is going to go in any direction, it's going to be with RE4. MGS3 hasn't looked all that good - not much better than MGS2, honestly - and Oblivion nearly lost to Tales of Symphonia twice. We can't even gauge what's going to happen here because the next match has two Nintendo games. One thing to keep an eye on is the distance between RE4 and TP - I feel like Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil might overlap, so if TP just crushes RE4 this time around it could be a bad omen for the huge MGS4/RE4/TP/Brawl match next round.

Nothin' else to say!

transience's prediction:

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 32%
Resident Evil 4 - 28%
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 22%
Oblivion - 18%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/30/2009 8:40:05 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #393
Leonhart’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater: Snake Eater had another easy win last round, but it wasn’t anything spectacular. It definitely didn’t do anything to make me think it’s got a chance this round. This is one of my favorite games of all-time, but it just doesn’t have what it takes to beat Twilight Princess or Resident Evil 4. It shouldn’t get killed or anything though. It should put up a respectable number, but it won’t be anywhere close to winning either.

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion: Oblivion did well to get here. Most of us here didn’t have it getting this far, but this is the end of the line. It lost handily to MGS3 last time, and now it’s facing two more games stronger than that. It’s probably going to do pretty badly here, and we’re going to end up with several topics whining about the Elder Scrolls being in last place. Whee!

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: Twilight Princess had a hard time getting past Resident Evil 4, but it managed to do so with the help of the ASV. I don’t expect anything to change this time around. None of the games added to the poll should do anything to hinder Zelda at all. I don’t know if they’ll affect RE4 at all, but that’s the game that will be affected if they do. Zelda will probably need the ASV to win here again, but it should win.

Resident Evil 4: Resident Evil 4 looked like it was in trouble in round one after struggling with Kingdom Hearts II, but after the original KH gave a good fight to FFX, it showed that maybe RE4 was legit after all. Then RE4 went out and proved it last round. It led Twilight Princess for a large portion of the match, but it gave it away with the ASV. Expect more of the same this time around. These two should be far enough ahead of the other two to avoid having concerns about them pulling an upset here.

Leonhart’s Vote: Snake Eater, because these guys wish they were half as cool as Big Boss!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Metal Gear Solid 3 – 24.69%
Oblivion – 14.12%
Twilight Princess – 31.18%
Resident Evil 4 – 30.01%



Crew Consensus: TP > RE4 is the majority, though HM is taking MGS3 for second because he’s a fanboi.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/30/2009 8:42:08 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #394
Also I'm opening up guest sign-ups here for Round 4. If you want a match, just say which one you want here and complete/send me the write-up ASAP.

As usual, it's a first-come first-serve deal
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Match 54 - Bracket: SSBM > FFX - Vote: SSBM (231/336)
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/30/2009 8:42:19 PM | message detail | filter | #395
Time for a CQC Slam to rock this match.
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transience | Posted 5/30/2009 8:47:13 PM | message detail | filter | #396
aw yeah fanboyz

all it takes is a picture of big boss on a website
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The Real Truth | Posted 5/30/2009 8:48:24 PM | message detail | filter | #397
Twilight Princess should do better than last round since it's now the only game aimed towards a younger crowd.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/30/2009 8:48:56 PM | message detail | filter | #398
Psh, Twilight Princess is the "mature" gamer's Zelda!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/30/2009 8:51:23 PM | message detail | filter | #399
I'll take the Pokemon Guest Analysis.

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Big Bob | Posted 5/30/2009 8:57:59 PM | message detail | filter | #400
Now that the shooters are gone RE4's ready to show its strength Woo I'm insane
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