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Best Game Ever 2 Contest Analysis Crew (Part Four)

MetricTrout | Posted 5/27/2009 8:27:33 PM | message detail | filter | #301
So no one is taking Mario 64 > FF7, eh?

Prepare to be shocked by Mario 64. Just like you all were last round!
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/27/2009 8:33:24 PM | message detail | filter | #302
I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong.
ZFS | Posted 5/27/2009 8:59:36 PM | message detail | filter | #303
no reason more like nintendofaqs !

transients | Posted 5/27/2009 9:23:19 PM | message detail | filter | #304
Nintendofaqs this was here last week too !
Big Bob | Posted 5/27/2009 10:44:01 PM | message detail | filter | #305
Watch something crazy happen like Chrono Trigger beating FFVII.
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/27/2009 10:44:23 PM | message detail | filter | #306
ZFS | Posted 5/27/2009 10:44:40 PM | message detail | filter | #307
More like FFVII getting 50%

The Real Truth | Posted 5/27/2009 11:31:10 PM | message detail | filter | #308
Just need some more FF7/Chrono Trigger weird SFF to happen. Lets do this.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/27/2009 11:34:18 PM | message detail | filter | #309
Ngamer's Rebellious Writeup

And the Nintendo domination train rolls on! Kind of sad that the Marios have spoiled us so badly that weren't not even surprised by LttP improving by 1.5% on FF6... despite the presence of Super Metroid and another Zelda game, but I guess that's just how far Old Square has fallen. Other than that, uhh, not much to say about this result really. Super Met did a little better than I expected and LA got SFFed a touch worse that I would have thought, but it wasn't all that crazy in either direction. And as for what it means to next round, hmm... I guess here's hoping that Mario is able to advance tonight, since the M64 vs LttP battle will be about as close to pure as is possible in this format, plus we'd be able to compare CT to FF6 based on how the Old Square Bros hold up against FF7. Speaking of which,

Very excited for this one! After GE completely redeemed itself in R2 it sure looked like tonight was going to be dullsville; Goldeneye could very well give Mario a run for its money, but they'd be duking it out in a distance third. Boy did the following day ever change that outlook! I think Mario 64 > CT is still the biggest shocker of the season in my mind, only because there was ANOTHER MARIO in the room. (Seriously, that shouldn't even have been close to possible!) But since we now know that these days Mario can punch Crono in the mouth even with a major disadvantage, a Mario advancement ought to be a straight up lock considering how there's going to be another Square RPG hanging around tonight. Right?

Not so fast, my Lee Corso!

I think GE is being quite unfairly underestimated here. The game's got nostalgia through the roof, a very dedicated fanbase, and it stands out like crazy here both as the only multiplayer option (something that was HUGE in determining the N64 totem pole- just ask MK64!) and in that match pic. People are being way too quick to assume that M64 beats it into paste- GE's sales were just as good as those of the console's flagship title here in America, and I'd argue there's a chance its overall playrate on this site could likewise be just as high, considering how EVERYONE got in on some GE multi action back in the day, even if you didn't have your own N64. We've already seen it hold up better directly against Ocarina, and just being "freaking MARIO" doesn't necessarily make you the alpha dog of any system post-NES; if you don't believe me ask Galaxy! Taking all this into account, I even picked FF7 > GE for this match in my initial gut bracket. And now I get to proudly say, sorry, got to tuck my tail between my legs and back down on that one. GE's got plenty going in its favor, but I just can't justify that upset in light of how every single FPS has cracked once serious pressure was applied so far this season (well except RE4, but let's see how it holds up in a few days) combined with how top tier Mario has got to be the year's #1 success story. I still say GE holds up very well, but yeah, I'm its biggest B8 fan and even I would be stunned if it were ever in serious contention to advance today beyond the first 15 minutes.
Ngamer64 | Posted 5/27/2009 11:34:28 PM | message detail | filter | #310
Does that mean GE will put up such a fight that CT is handed the free win over both N64 classics? Again, sorry, but I can't get behind that upset. The R2 stunner between these two was a huge wakeup call for Old School Square, but unfortunately it seems these RPGs just keep reaching out to slam the snooze button- FF4's showing was flat out pathetic, FF6 didn't improve on it nearly enough, and I refuse to bet against trends this crystal clear. I guess my only "daring" pick for tonight is a low low percentage from FF7. The early voters love all three other options so its sure to get a slow start, from there I don't think it dominates Europe all that badly overnight (GE was very popular over there), and as we've seen several times now this game doesn't have the ASV kick it once packed; have to imagine Mario looks best during that period. Plus as we've already covered I don't think N64 LFF will be anything close to devastating for Mario and GE, since their playrates aren't probably all THAT far back from those of Mario 3/SWM.

Long story short,

Final Fantasy VII - 34.22%
Super Mario 64 - 24.13%
Chrono Trigger - 23.90%
GoldenEye 007 - 17.75%

*but crosses fingers for an even better showing from GE!*

The Guru ROCKS, son!
( & aren't awful either)
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/27/2009 11:38:05 PM | message detail | filter | #311
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 12:08:06 AM | message detail | filter | #312
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 12:15:07 AM | message detail | filter | #313
Regardless of how this ends, good show by Trigger to put up a fight at least.

ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 12:16:28 AM | message detail | filter | #314
(and our the 2009 champion Final Fantasy VII putting up 40% of course)

Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 12:24:16 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #315
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past--38.38% 45384
Super Metroid------------------------------------16.5% 19507
Final Fantasy III (VI)--------------------------32.09% 37940
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening--13.03% 15404
TOTAL VOTES-------------------------------------------118235

Matches Completely Correct - 32
Matches Partially Correct - 19
Matches Completely Wrong - 0

Results - LttP easily takes first, even with Link's Awakening in the poll. FFVI doesn't do...too badly for itself.

Post-Match Comments - Again, we see that old-Square can't capitalize on a 3-way Nintendo split. I mean it couldn't possibly be because old-Square games are on Nintendo consoles right? Also, LttP beats down LA just fine here. Decent performance from Super Metroid too, although it looks like LA could beat it straight-up.

Next Round Preview - LttP looking good for next round.

Crew Prediction Challenge - 4 members get points

Tran - 35
Guest - 30
HM - 29
Moltar - 29
Leon - 25
Ed - 22
Lopen - 20

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Moltar gets the point for LttP, Mr3790 gets the point for FF6 and SM, and Moltar and Mr3790 get the point for LA

HM - 49
Moltar - 46
Tran - 36
Guest (Luster, Zylo (3), HaRR, Kleenex (2), Soul, TRT, KP (4), Chaotic, Ngamer, GfK (3), Trout (3), BDawg (2), Luis, LMS (3), War, Ngirl, Mr3790 (3)) - 32
Ed - 24
Lopen - 23
Leon - 23
Moltar Status: complete global saturation
Match 52 - Bracket: FF7 > CT - Vote: Goldeneye (215/304)
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 12:46:44 AM | message detail | filter | #316
Excellent results tonight after a bad start. CT has a good shot of winning, and FFVII looks like our #1 game again.
Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 12:57:20 AM | message detail | filter | #317
If FFVII can manage 40% here, I'd put it back in the discussion for #1 game. Of course, then it all depends on what OoT does tomorrow.
Lopen | Posted 5/28/2009 1:54:44 AM | message detail | filter | #318

Mario almost certainly has this but Goldeneye is definitely doing more damage to it than Yoshi's Island did, easily. I kinda figured that would be the case, though, just thought that FF7 would hurt CT. Signs point to both happening right now, though... which might be why FF7 is looking so damn good here.
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Lopen | Posted 5/28/2009 1:55:39 AM | message detail | filter | #319

Pierce Brosnan doing so poorly is shameful. The GameFAQs joke vote is pathetic.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 2:03:41 AM | message detail | filter | #320
CT has 38% on FFVII right now. How bad do you think FFVII is hurting it here?

And Mario 64 won't be able to manage huge swings today because there's a Final Fantasy VII in the way. Not to say CT's got this locked up, but its chances of holding on are definitely better than they were last round.
Lopen | Posted 5/28/2009 2:07:20 AM | message detail | filter | #321
SM64 can manage a very significant swing. FF7 being here means that Mario 64 will go up less, but CT will be pummeled even harder.

As for CT... by the time this match ends I'd be surprised if CT isn't being doubled by FFVII. Remember, we're in by far CT's best time, and by far FF7's worst time. It's definitely getting hurt.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 2:48:29 AM | message detail | filter | #322
By far FFVII's worst? That's the first hour, my friend.
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 2:52:15 AM | message detail | filter | #323
The one thing that surprises me is that people keep talking about how badly FF IV did. Did anyone really expect better? Personally I was pretty shocked that it beat Sonic. FF IV has never been a powerhouse - I didn't expect it to do well against games with the play rates of Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario World, and Sonic the Hedgehog. The real disappointment was Chrono Trigger last round... that one was a real stunner for me.
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 2:52:55 AM | message detail | filter | #324
Anyway this probably won't last, but I sure am enjoying CT's lead over SM64, not to mention FF VII beating the pants off the competition!
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
Lopen | Posted 5/28/2009 3:27:30 AM | message detail | filter | #325
Well of course it's the first hour... but the thing is... after three hours into the match CT basically drops like a rock, and FFVII rises to heaven for the whole match after it's terrible early vote. I mean, yeah, its updates aren't dreadful after the first hour, but they're SO BAD then FFVII rises the whole match. FFVII's updates are usually over doubling CT here, if you look at just the 5 minute updates. So yeah, this should end at around 33% for CT... pretty terrible-- didn't it get like 10% more in 2004? (Not to mention it could've been SFFed that time too?)
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 5:30:00 AM | message detail | filter | #326
The one thing that surprises me is that people keep talking about how badly FF IV did. Did anyone really expect better?

I think people expected rampant franchise voting + a big Mario split, neither of which happened. you're right though. I've never felt like FF4 was very popular. maybe it's because you and I were gaming-conscious when it came out!

FF7 doin' work here. I expected a big one here but I didn't predict it high enough. ah well. CT probably screwed but it's a nice try. how about that FF7/CT SFF!
transience | Posted 5/28/2009 5:33:34 AM | message detail | filter | #327
MetricTrout | Posted 5/27/2009 9:27:33 PM | message detail | filter | quote | #301
So no one is taking Mario 64 > FF7, eh?

Prepare to be shocked by Mario 64. Just like you all were last round!

whoops !
MetricTrout | Posted 5/28/2009 6:04:36 AM | message detail | filter | #328
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 9:16:03 AM | message detail | filter | #329
maybe it's because you and I were gaming-conscious when it came out!

I was gaming-conscious, barely! I always saw FFII at the video store when I rented games, but I never knew anyone who played it!
Big Bob | Posted 5/28/2009 12:40:01 PM | message detail | filter | #330
FFIV is easily the biggest disappointment of the contest for me. I always found it suspect that it's nowhere near the level of FFVI, despite the two games having tons in common. FFIV commonly appears on professional "best game ever" lists, and I consider it more influential than the first Final Fantasy (which it beat, at least). Combine that with the good showing of FFIV characters in the last character battle, and I thought it had the potential to go far and surprise everyone.

Oh well. But if Chrono Trigger doesn't hold out today, my bracket is finally, truly dead.
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 1:30:16 PM | message detail | filter | #331
Wow... go CT! Looks like we had 3 hours of almost CT vs LTTP level struggle between CT and Mario 64... if I had been here for that the last thing I would have expected would be to see CT start pulling away with the after school vote!
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 1:31:08 PM | message detail | filter | #332
Or is this before the after school vote? Hmm, CT could be in trouble in a few minutes...
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/28/2009 1:31:29 PM | message detail | filter | #333
Haha yeah, ASV proper hasn't quite hit yet.
This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?
The Real Truth | Posted 5/28/2009 1:34:12 PM | message detail | filter | #334
Come on FF7, save me here. I guess this is what I deserve for not caring about the actual bracket, but still trying to predict stuff.
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 1:44:43 PM | message detail | filter | #335
don't worry, I didn't care about my bracket before it was even locked down. I have to look to see what I have sometimes.
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 3:01:17 PM | message detail | filter | #336
damn you, kiddies !!
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
th3l3fty | Posted 5/28/2009 3:29:38 PM | message detail | filter | #337
great result
thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny
I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris
Ngamer64 | Posted 5/28/2009 3:44:26 PM | message detail | filter | #338
Yup, and there goes the last glimmer of hope for LttP > FF7. Oh well, guess we'll just have to settle for Ocarina > FF7 instead!

The Guru ROCKS, son!
( & aren't awful either)
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 4:18:18 PM | message detail | filter | #339
lol ocarina fanboyz
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 4:23:43 PM | message detail | filter | #340
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 4:38:08 PM | message detail | filter | #341
In seriousness... Ocarina does have a chance, but I'm pissed that we won't get to see how the games really stack up due to the stupid 4 way format. No matter which other games make the finals it won't be a true test of strength between the two.
I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:05:45 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #342
Division 5: Round 3 - Match 53 – Metal Gear Solid vs. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow vs. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs. Final Fantasy VIII

Moltar’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid
Round 1 - 37.08% vs. Pokemon G/S, Final Fantasy Tactics and Deus Ex
Round 2 - 33.22% vs. Pokemon R/B/Y, Majora’s Mask and Pokemon G/S

Snake’s tired of seeing Pokemon by now

Pokemon R/B/Y
Round 1 - 50.68% vs. Majora’s Mask, Perfect Dark and Banjo-Kazooie
Round 2 - 26.27% vs. Metal Gear Solid, Majora’s Mask and Pokemon G/S

R/B/Y comes back to Earth

Ocarina of Time
Round 1 - 53.79% vs. Final Fantasy IX, Half-Life and Chrono Cross
Round 2 - 49.36% vs. Final Fantasy VIII, Starcraft and Final Fantasy IX

Holy crap OoT

Final Fantasy VIII
Round 1 - 43.91% vs. Starcraft, Soul Calibur and Xenogears
Round 2 - 21.10% vs. Ocarina of Time, Starcraft and Final Fantasy IX

No more Square to hold it back!

One of the biggest matches yet and I’m too sick to write much about it. Oh well!

I have OoT > MGS in my bracket. I had MM in this match instead of RBY, but OoT would have easily dealt with it. FF8, I didn’t have much faith in pre-contest, while I was high on MGS.

Well MGS still has a shot here, but RBY and FFVII have strong cases as well. OoT easily takes first, but with FF7 FINALLY looking like it has shown up, OoT needs to go big today in order to out-do it.

RBY has a shot at second because Pokemon has shown itself to be SFF-resistant in the past. Yeah, Pikachu and Pokemon have held up against Metroid and decent Mario/Zelda characters, but this is Ocarina of Time. Outside of both being massively popular games, the two are pretty different, so I wouldn’t be surprised if RBY holds up here. Still…this is Ocarina of Time. If any game can put Pokemon in its place, it’s OoT.

FFVIII is the sole Square game once again, and even with FF9 holding it back, it still had no problem beating Starcraft. Still, it looked more like Starcraft lost due to its own weakness. FF8 should improve on OoT with FF9 gone and RBY potentially hurting OoT, but…

MGS is another huge PS1 game, and a split between the two wouldn’t surprise me. MGS hasn’t really impressed, but it hasn’t done too bad either.

Eh, even though I’m hoping MGS wins, I’ll side with FF8. RBY actually looks to be the strongest of the three, but I don’t buy that it’s going to resist SFF against OoT of all games. FF8 should at least win the split with MGS if that happens, and it’s already performed well once on OoT with an anchor on its leg.

hope i’m wrong FF8 killing itself and taking FFX down with it next round who wants this

Moltar’s Bracket Says: OoT > MGS

Moltar’s Prediction is: OoT: 41% - FFVIII: 22% - MGS: 20% - Pokemon RBY: 17%

Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Some people are hyping this as the biggest match of the contest, but I can't say I believe that. Who wins here does determine the next couple of rounds, but I think everyone's getting excited about nothing. I don't think Pokemon has any realistic shot at advancing with Ocarina of Time hanging around, and I don't think MGS can beat FFVIII straight up, meaning that the only real choice today is Final Fantasy.

Of course, I've been cynical about Metal Gear Solid's strength for the entire contest, despite how much I love the games, and it still hasn't quite given me a reason to think it's as strong as it should be. Last round gave me some hope that it's legit, managing to put a real hurting on Pokemon after the first hour, but I still don't think it's up to par with what FFVIII has shown.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:06:03 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #343
But then you have the whole StarCraft suffering a massive drop since 2k4, which is likely true, making FFVIII's first round showing less impressive, and its second round performance very norming. I think it's done fine considering two notable Square games have been in the poll dragging it down. Say what you want to, but it still beat SC easily despite FFIX -- and we all saw it rock SC hard in round 1, enough to erase any doubts I might have about its strength.

That leaves Pokemon, but who cares about this dumb game time for it to make like Bidoof and lose

Ocarina of Time -- 38%
Final Fantasy VIII -- 25%
Metal Gear Solid -- 21%
Pokemon RBY -- 16%

Bracket: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid
Favorites: Metal Gear Solid > Final Fantasy VIII

Lopen’s Analysis

Pokemanz RBY is all like "offa the SFF backboard" and FFVIII is like "you know it!" Metal Gear on the other hand is like "ha ha I am the other first place guy fear me"

What does this mean? Well you see that Metal Gear kinda limped past Pokemanz RBY last round despite it being "offa the SFF backboard", and you throw it out. Not gonna fly. Then you look at Pokemanz RBY vs Mr. Whatever's flagship and you say "well one just barely lost to MGS, the other just barely beat Starcraft." And you think "youch that's gonna be nasty in favor of the Yellow Rat."

But THEN you look at the degree of the SFF involved and you think "well FFIV and FF were brutal and Nintendo has held up okay, thus FFVIII will rise more"

Well I said this with Zelda and was wrong (I think...? Maybe FFVI was just that weak), but I think it applies to Pokemon even moreso. Pokemon isn't Mario. A lot love it, but is it universally loved? Can it afford to have another Pokemon game in the poll? Methinks not. SFF is a wash. But then you've got SFF in this match and the natural assumption is to think ZELDA crushes all Nintendo, but I think Pokemon will hold up okay. Pretty independent from Zelda, I think, and Nintendo is a very broad fanbase. Also, the strange MGS/FF interaction has been well documented... Snake might pull something here.

Any game is a contender here, but give me the Pokemanz. It's non SFF tainted R1 just looked way better than FFVIII to me. That's the kicker for me.

Lopen's prediction:
Macarana of Time - 34.04%
Pokemanz RBY - 23.03%
Final Fantasy VIII - 22.32%
Metal Gear !? - 20.61%

Transience’s Analysis

Okay, this match is a mess. I'm not even sure who I'm going to pick yet.

Let's start with Pokemon. We know that it's stronger than Metal Gear Solid: its little brother got 47% on it, so unless you believe in MGS/FFT overlap (and you shouldn't, given how things have gone in this contest), RBY wins a matchup on neutral ground. It could be stronger than FF8 as well - we really have no good way to judge FF8 at this point because of the FF8/FF9 overlap and who the hell knows with Starcraft. But Pokemon's probably a good bet for being the strongest of the three.

Its problem, of course, is the gigantic elephant in the room - Ocarina of Time.

Pokemon has evaded SFF many times in the past. It didn't get hammered by Metroid in the series contest (Kirby wasn't so lucky, getting 70-30'd). Pikachu had a really impressive match against Luigi where he more than held his own. Pikachu went out and did even better against Samus the next year - Samus beat Ganondorf into the ground but Pikachu didn't budge from its natural strength. On top of that, Pokemon and Zelda don't share a console or a genre. They are pretty much independent of each other in every way besides the company name. Pokemon should hold up like a champ - better than any other Nintendo game could.

But this is Ocarina of Time.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:06:51 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #344
Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII do not play by the rules. They don't need a reason to beat the living hell out of you. FF7 once made Metal Gear Solid look a mile weaker than Metal Gear Solid 2. Ocarina of Time took a FPS with literally nothing in common besides the system it was on and treated it to a 72/28 beatdown. These two games overshadow all other games. I'm not sure if people realize just how strong these two games are. If you put all 128 games in the poll at once, FF7 and OOT probably bring in 40-45%. That's how huge they are.

Pokemon might get lucky and avoid getting absolutely beat down. But if it gets hurt at *all*, it loses. Pokemon really needs a Perfect Storm in order to survive. It is absolutely possible - that fanbase is rigid and won't budge - but it's tough to bet on it. Pokemon got absolutely screwed here. We will never know how strong RBY, the true underdog of the contest, is.

So that leaves MGS and FF8. Smart money says FF8 - its round 1 match was better than anything MGS put up, MGS struggled in a round 2 match that was absolutely begging for an overperformance, and FF7 beat it 70-30 in 2004. Why wouldn't FF8 pick up a good chunk of that support?

But screw that, I'm taking Snake. I'm not even sure why, but it just feels right. FF8 just doesn't strike me as having as much meaning to its fanbase as Metal Gear Solid does to its. FF8 is another good RPG that followed FF7; Metal Gear Solid is like the beginning of an era. Plus, while it doesn't exactly mean anything anymore, Snake doubled pre-KH Squall back in 2002. Even with all the KH games to his name, Squall never really got close. (Too bad we never got to see Squall vs. Snake pre-Brawl)

On the other hand, I trust Final Fantasy to have a loyal fanbase that can stand up to a giant like Ocarina of Time. I don't know if I can say the same about Metal Gear Solid...

me? pick FF8?
I don't like these other games
but they're still better

transience's prediction:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 42%
Metal Gear Solid - 22%
Final Fantasy VIII - 19%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - 17%

Leonhart’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid: Metal Gear Solid took advantage of an ideal triple Nintendo LFF situation and won with ease. It didn’t put up huge numbers, but that’s a difficult pack to put up huge numbers in, honestly. Metal Gear Solid would probably lose a close one to R/B/Y one-on-one, but once again, it’s in a potential SFF situation with the King of Nintendo games, Ocarina of Time, being added to the fray. Now there are some who say that Pokemon is too independent to let itself be affected by Ocarina of Time here, but I’m not a proponent of that theory. Maybe it will, and if it does, R/B/Y’s got a great shot of winning. In my opinion, MGS’s biggest threat is Final Fantasy VIII. Some people have thrown around the potential for MGS/FFVIII LFF, and we’ve seen several weird things happen when you put FF and MGS together, so I can’t deny its validity. I don’t think it’s as bad as what OoT will do to R/B/Y though. Any of these three can win, but it should be pretty obvious who I’m supporting, so I won’t play it up like it’s a mystery!
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:07:14 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #345
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow: R/B/Y destroyed its first round fourpack and looked dominant, even to the point that people thought it could throttle G/S down to nothingness and still beat MGS anyway. Well, that didn’t happen. R/B/Y had a very difficult time doing much of anything with G/S, and it lost to MGS with ease, not even making any sort of move with the day vote. After that first hour, it basically died off. Now it has to deal with THE Nintendo game, Ocarina of Time. There are people who say that Pokemon is very LFF resistant, but I’m not sure I believe that. Pikachu in the contests is an exception because he gets a good deal of strength from Smash Bros. (I don’t know why anyone would disagree with this, personally), and Pokemon has faced Metroid in the Series Contest (known for SFFing nothing), Majora’s Mask, and G/S, who definitely hindered it last round. Ocarina of Time is a different story. It will do things that no other Nintendo game can do, and I think you’ll see that here. If R/B/Y can stand up to OoT, it can win, but I don’t expect it to happen.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Ocarina of Time has basically cemented itself as the favorite to win the contest. This is OoT’s battle to lose at this point. The only way OoT could lose that status is if it somehow gets less than what FFVII is getting today, which I don’t expect. It’s outperformed FFVII easily in both rounds so far, so look for that to continue. The only thing to look for from Ocarina of Time (other than the final percentage) is to see how much it affects R/B/Y.

Final Fantasy VIII: Admittedly, Final Fantasy VIII didn’t look that great last round, and I don’t know how much of that you can blame on Final Fantasy IX. It did manage to beat StarCraft without trouble despite FFIX’s presence, which is impressive enough, but that seems to be more because StarCraft blows than anything else. I think FFVIII can take MGS, but it’ll be close. At this point, this is a sheer guts and fanboyism pick above all else. Yes, there are plenty of reasons to believe in FFVIII to win here, but I’d be backing it even if there were none! FFVIII forever!

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy VIII! Perfect storm nearly complete!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Metal Gear Solid – 22.30%
Pokemon R/B/Y – 17.84%
Ocarina of Time – 37.48%
Final Fantasy VIII – 22.38%

Ed Bellis’s Analysis

What a match before us. Ocarina of Time is going to have to pull out some hefty percentages to bring people back to the school of thought that it can hang with FF7, especially since this four-pack is pretty strong as well.

Any of the three games has a solid shot at placing here. Most people will probably say that the battle is between RBY and FF8, though if you take the approach that OOT will SFF RBY into the ground, MGS probably has a shot too. But it’s an outside one.

We’ve seen RBY stand up comfortably against other Nintendo titles before, and while they weren’t as strong as Ocarina, the Pokemon fanbase seems unlikely to abandon its favorite game over another one made by the same people.

FF8, however, is largely in the same boat RBY is, having overcome a weaker game from within its own franchise last round. FF8’s put on dominant performances and it might even be stronger than FF10 at this point.

I think (at least I hope) we’ll get a close match this time around. RBY or FF8 could take it here, but I’m gonna give the slight edge to FF8 – if past contests are any indication (which they only seem to be some of the time), it should leech some votes away from MGS, which could prove crucial to VICTOLY.

Metal Gear Solid with 17.51%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow with 21.20%
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time with 40.04%
Final Fantasy VIII with 21.25%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:08:13 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #346
Guest’s Analysis - KleenexTissue50

Why the hell did I sign up for this match. Augh. Well, we've got what is probably the most debatable match of Round 3, and potentially all contest. First place is a non-factor so we're going to ignore Ocarina of Time for the time being (no pun intended, because that's an awful pun). Any of the other three games could take second place today. Time for some pros and cons, +/- style.

Metal Gear Solid
+ likely the strongest MGS game
- FF7 owned MGS's face back in 2k4
- would have lost handily to Pokemon had G/S not been in the poll last round
- didn't look that great against G/S in the first place in round 1

Hmm, not as many pros as I thought there'd be. Let's move on.

Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
- There is an Ocarina in the way

Yeah, Ocarina is really the only reason Pokemon would lose this. Who the hell knows how much Zelda affects it, though.

Final Fantasy VIII
+ Pretty awesome first round
+ Only Square game in the poll
+ FF7 showed everyone what's up yesterday, so new Square may have some oomph to it
- Apparently people don't like FF8 or something, I dunno

FF8's definitely got a chance, if it's as strong as we think.

That being said, I still have no idea how the hell this match goes. I kind of have an inkling that Metal Gear Solid won't place here. Nothing more than a gut feeling, really. Which leaves Pokemon and FF8 to duke it out. Ocarina could kill RBY's chances, but this contest has shown that Nintendo SFF doesn't apply in all cases...and hell, Karma Hunter might cheat for Metal Gear...time to pick names out of a hat.

Kleenex's cop-out predictions
Metal Gear Solid - 19.99%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - 20.00%
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 40.00%
Final Fantasy VIII - 20.01%

Hell yes.

Crew Consensus: OoT > FF8 is the majority pick, with RBY and MGS getting one pick for second each.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/28/2009 9:12:16 PM | message detail | filter | #347
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:15:38 PM | message detail | filter | #348

you see Big Boss showed up on a website so now Metal Gear Solid will win
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:05 PM | message detail | filter | #349
Dammit tran what are you doing picking MGS1

So much for catching up!

transients | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:40 PM | message detail | filter | #350
well you see Big Boss was on a website and he was saluting and 115:36:24 and