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Best Game Ever 2 Contest Analysis Crew (Part Four)

transients | Posted 5/22/2009 9:02:24 PM | message detail | filter | #151
COD4 did lose the GOTY poll. but I don't even care about GOTY results -- COD4 does not strike me as a game that would be a hit on GameFAQs at all.

I actually half-expect Galaxy to come in second despite it being the weirdest result ever.
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2009 9:02:32 PM | message detail | filter | #152
Today's match is all about what Call of Duty 4 does. It could either take a dominating first place because of the Brawl/Galaxy split, or it could bomb specatcularly and not even advance. Normally, I wouldn't give much tought to the latter, but after seeing RE4 hang with TP, despite its round 1 performance, I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility. It can't hurt that every Mario game has looked significantly better than their round 1 performances.

But despite how much I'd like to see both Nintendo games move on here, I can't feel confident enough to pick it. I could see it happening, but predicting it would be bias more than anything. Instead, I'm going to stick to a middleground and go with Brawl over COD4. The way I see it, COD4 isn't going to head into this match completely at full strength. Say what you want about GTAIV, but it appeals to the exact same fanbase as COD4. It should sap away enough votes to make sure that Brawl squeaks out a close win, even when it's losing votes to Galaxy.

oh well here's to hoping that galaxy takes 50% of the votes best game here tbqh

Super Smash Bros. Brawl -- 30%
Call of Duty 4 -- 28%
Super Mario Galaxy -- 24%
Grand Theft Auto IV -- 18%

Bracket: Call of Duty 4 > Super Mario Galaxy
Favorites: Super Mario Galaxy > Smash Bros. Brawl

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 9:20:21 PM | message detail | filter | #153
transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:02:32 PM | message detail | filter | #154
Yeah, anyone not taking CoD4 for first here is bonkers. Just saying!

sorry, I can't hear you over all this Brawl domination
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2009 11:02:58 PM | message detail | filter | #155
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/22/2009 11:04:02 PM | message detail | filter | #156
Simply bonkers.

What the hell Galaxy. At least distance yourself from GTAIV.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/22/2009 11:20:01 PM | message detail | filter | #157
Ngamer's Rebellious Writeup

I'm so proud of RE4 right now. *wipes tear from eye* What a trooper, standing up to the two school bullies and showing that yes, it IS possible for a non-Nintendo non-Square game to show some strength on this site. As to how this could have happened despite all stats and prior results pointing against it, I'm again going to bring up the final point from my match preview: well-liked games with huge playrates are always going to be a threat to post big time numbers in the opening rounds, but when the rubber hits the road and the competition stiffens (and I would argue this was the stiffest 4pack so far this season), they're going to wilt in the face of the well-loved options around them. Also want to give a short note of congrats to TP for surviving both the dreaded RE overnight and the dreaded KH afternoon to pull out the hard fought victory- sure this game is far from the the FF7-killer some were hoping for during the peak of its '06 hype, but its still earned plenty of respect from myself with this showing.

Tonight is... well, its super weird. CoD's the clear favorite for first place, and you'd have to say "deservedly so" after the way it didn't have any trouble with SMG past the first few minutes last time around. But somehow I have absolutely zero faith in this game. The entire FPS genre has been awful here in 2009 (aside from shooters with Nintendo appeal, and even then RE4 and GE looked bad back in R1). CoD's closest proxy, Halo, has gone 3 for 3 in wilting under pressure... what makes C4 different? I guess you could say its helped out by having strong PC appeal, and I suppose you could even make a case for it being the "RE4 of the CoD series", and that today's result ought to be give Duty-backers more confidence. But... I'm not sold.

Melee was monstrous a couple days back, and I don't think Brawl should be all that far behind it, especially not after that very impressive performance last round. And the Snake + Mario pick is fantastic- there's no doubting that Snake popping out of that box was the moment that Brawl hype reached its peak internet-wide. Yup, everything seems to be working in SSBB's favor... and yet I can't shake the feeling that there was something extremely fishy about that Galaxy/Pokemon match. With the way even G/S/C was able to resist SFF from both Zelda and a superior Pokemon game, you've got to let SMG off the hook for not beating down D/P harder, don't you? And if so, isn't there a chance that we could be vastly underestimating it here?

I think so, and that's why I'm going to back... Call of Duty! I do so not out of any kind of respect for the game or that series, but rather because I'm worried that we may have pegged Galaxy way wrong. With the way everyone outside of America has abandoned the Wii its going to be very difficult for Brawl + Galaxy to combine for much over 50%, which means that as long as Mario doesn't crumble badly CoD has to remain in the driver's seat. On the other hand, there's a distinct possibility that GTA4 messes this all up by limiting C4's casual appeal. Yes the GTAs have bombed, but with how much Europe despises the Wii and isn't too sold on the 360 either, G4 should figure to have a very strong overnight vote that might be enough to keep it relevant.

Yup, so I'm leaning toward a result looking a little something like THIS:

Call of Duty 4 - 30.45%
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 30.38%
Super Mario Galaxy - 21.81%
Grand Theft Auto IV - 17.35%

Sure would be wonderful to see Galaxy redeem itself by massively improving on that pred though, as all its younger brothers did this round.

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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/22/2009 11:26:28 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #158
hey i jumped ship in the oracle that counts right
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Match 47 - Bracket: CoD4 > Brawl - Vote: Galaxy (163/240)
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:27:02 PM | message detail | filter | #159
Looks like Galaxy won't even get close to that!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:27:58 PM | message detail | filter | #160
Oh hey, Ed Bellis's bracket is the first to die in the Guru.

Makin' the Crew proud!
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:30:51 PM | message detail | filter | #161
man, I went low on Galaxy and it was still too high. I can't think of a weaker big game. Galaxy for flop of the contest.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/22/2009 11:34:30 PM | message detail | filter | #162
Oh for heaven's sake! I mean, no disrespect to tranny, but I can't imagine anyone in history has distanced themselves from the Crew by making two more easy 1 versus 6 picks. Though I guess I'm in no position to complain, given that I was foolish enough to make turn today into a 1 versus 7...

But yeah, 41%, and RISING the last two updates? I wouldn't have even expected this from Melee! How in the flip did this game allow MGS4 48% of the vote?

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/22/2009 11:34:48 PM | message detail | filter | #163
With the way everyone outside of America has abandoned the Wii its going to be very difficult for Brawl + Galaxy to combine for much over 50%

Brawl + Galaxy is already easily clearing 50% combined.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:35:31 PM | message detail | filter | #164
I've been on the "MGS4 is a strong game" bandwagon for a while - I actually thought it could beat MGS1 in this format. 'swhy I put it in the semis.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:38:02 PM | message detail | filter | #165
How in the flip did this game allow MGS4 48% of the vote?

You're looking at it the wrong way. This just means MGS4 is legit.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/22/2009 11:44:14 PM | message detail | filter | #166
This is the kind of performance that would make Fallout 3 legit, and MGS4 super legit. Hmm... looking forward to tomorrow now!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:44:47 PM | message detail | filter | #167
Which basically means MGS4 and Fallout 3 wreck tomorrow's poll while Portal beats Halo 3.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:47:11 PM | message detail | filter | #168
tomorrow means nothing. maybe if they were against someone else, but putting MGS4 and Fallout 3 together again is just pointless.

this division kinda sucks now that we know that COD4's a fraud. we've seen this and I don't expect much to change.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:48:28 PM | message detail | filter | #169
Yeah, Brawl > MGS4 next round doesn't change, no matter what. If any game's fallen off, it's Fallout 3. I just can't see it somehow upending one of those two.

I'd like to see MGS4 somehow beat Brawl though. This is becoming a neat little rivalry. It's almost like a PS3 vs. Wii poll.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:51:05 PM | message detail | filter | #170
yeah, I like this rivalry. MGS4 will get the last laugh in round 5 of its rivalry too.

if MGS4 and Brawl advance we could have an epic round 6, all within five months.
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2009 11:52:19 PM | message detail | filter | #171
I can buy Brawl being strong, but MGS4 wasn't that impressive last round, certainly not on par with what Brawl is showing here. We'll see how it does tomorrow, but I've always believed Brawl would whomp on it harder in a contest setting than it would in a GotY poll, for whatever reason.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:53:36 PM | message detail | filter | #172
Meh, MGS4 did fine. Portal and BioShock could challenge GTA IV, honestly, and even SFF'd LBP could hang with Persona 4 and SFIV. Its fourpack was tougher.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/22/2009 11:54:46 PM | message detail | filter | #173
man, I went low on Galaxy and it was still too high. I can't think of a weaker big game. Galaxy for flop of the contest.

I still say Starcraft has this
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:55:35 PM | message detail | filter | #174
Starcraft only flopped if you believed in it in the first place.
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ZFS | Posted 5/23/2009 12:00:40 AM | message detail | filter | #175
MGS4 wasn't terrible or anything, but it wasn't a Brawl performance either. I would have expected Brawl to do a good bit better than MGS4 did there. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

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transience | Posted 5/23/2009 12:02:55 AM | message detail | filter | #176
well, I wouldn't expect MGS4 to be able to put up dominating performances with that kind of ownership. I expect it to be better the stronger the poll it's in, just like it did in 2008.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/23/2009 12:24:20 AM | message detail | filter | #177
BTW which guests have signed up for round 3 matches?

I say that Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was the biggest flop of the contest.
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/23/2009 12:25:13 AM | message detail | filter | #178
San Andreas was bad, but it's not as bad as this. It's going to be amazing to see which games could potentially beat Galaxy when this contest is over.

Heck, GTA IV is threatening to beat Galaxy right here.
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transience | Posted 5/23/2009 12:27:23 AM | message detail | filter | #179
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/23/2009 12:31:27 AM | message detail | filter | #180
Yeah, Galaxy finishing fourth here would rank among the most embarrassing performances by a major franchise (LoZ, FF, SMB being the big three) we've ever seen.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/23/2009 12:34:23 AM | message detail | filter | #181
Was Super Mario Sunshine so scorned about that nobody cared about Nintendo from that point on?

And could SMS be the reason why new Nintendo has been sucking it up; since people probably might have left Nintendo and jumped ship for Sony or Microsoft?
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/23/2009 12:36:46 AM | message detail | filter | #182
Nah, it's not Sunshine's fault that people don't care about Nintendo as much. It might be why they don't care about Mario as much though. The sequel to a poorly received game will always suffer for it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/23/2009 12:38:34 AM | message detail | filter | #183
The problem is that prior to Galaxy, Nintendo had not released a well-received big Mario game since 1996. The younger generations know Mario for his spinoffs and mascot status, not for his mainline games.
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ZFS | Posted 5/23/2009 12:41:26 AM | message detail | filter | #184
I don't think Sunshine had much, if any, effect on Mario's standing with anyone. I mean, it's not like Galaxy didn't dominate sales charts and get great reception -- it sold 8 million copies (only about 400k off from Brawl) and has a 9.0+ average on GameFAQs and elsewhere. There's really not much reason for Galaxy to be as weak as it is.

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transience | Posted 5/23/2009 12:43:23 AM | message detail | filter | #185
when Smash did great on Mario in 2006 (as opposed to 2009!), I explained it by saying that Smash *is* the Mario of the younger generation. Mario is not significant to younger gamers, probably, at least not the games themselves.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/23/2009 1:23:33 AM | message detail | filter | #186
This could be true because a mainline Mario game is even rarer than a Zelda game these days.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/23/2009 2:44:04 AM | message detail | filter | #187
@transcience: Yeah, I think that's the best way to explain it.

Here's another theory I had. Most of today's gamers probably came into gaming in the fifth generation, and unless Mario 64 was their first video game, it became mostly forgotten amongst stuff like GoldenEye, Ocarina of Time, and maybe even Perfect Dark. The next huge dose of Mario 64 would come from Super Smash Bros. Melee, since most of the Mario characters' designs are based off of Mario 64 and two of the stages hail from Mario 64, but SSBM was a big enough multiplayer game to wrap people up, and so Mario 64 would once again be forgotten. Then Super Mario Sunshine comes along and everybody is disappointed, and then Super Mario 64 gets remade for the DS, but nobody seems to think of that version being absolutely exceptional. The bottom line is that mainline Mario games had been largely forgotten among whatever else was big, and so Mario Galaxy has had to suffer for it.

Personally though, Mario 64 holds a special place in my heart since it was the first video game that I had ever heard of. Mario Galaxy got me back into console gaming after being stuck with Civilization IV (oops) for two years, and so it will also hold a special place in my heart.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/23/2009 10:48:40 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #188
Resident Evil 4------------------------------------27% 32237
Kingdom Hearts II-----------------------------26.28% 31366
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess--28.47% 33987
Half-Life 2--------------------------------------18.25% 21785
TOTAL VOTES----------------------------------------119375

Matches Completely Correct - 28
Matches Partially Correct - 18
Matches Completely Wrong - 0


What Happened - The top three end up pretty close to each other. TP takes first, and RE4 beats KH2 in a close one, just like last round.


Why it Happened - TP ended up having no effect on RE4, as it performed almost the exact same against KH2 this round.


What Will Happen - MGS3/Oblivion/TP/RE4...yeah that looks easy.


Crew Prediction Challenge - Tran gets a point

Tran - 30
Guest - 27
HM - 26
Moltar - 25
Leon - 22
Ed - 21
Lopen - 18


Crew Accuracy Challenge - Moltar, HM and Tran get a point for TP, HM gets the point for KH2, Tran nails RE4, and War gets the point for HL2

HM - 45
Moltar - 41
Tran - 34
Guest (Luster, Zylo (3), HaRR, Kleenex (2), Soul, TRT, KP (4), Chaotic, Ngamer, GfK (3), Trout, BDawg (2), Luis, LMS (3), War) - 26
Lopen - 22
Leon - 22
Ed - 21
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Match 47 - Bracket: CoD4 > Brawl - Vote: Galaxy (163/240)
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/23/2009 10:50:23 AM | message detail | filter | #189
Damn you guest, we were doing so well!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/23/2009 12:22:59 PM | message detail | filter | #190
At least I'm happy with the three points I've appeared to have gotten.
Ngamer64 | Posted 5/23/2009 4:03:51 PM | message detail | filter | #191
Moltar, HM and Tran get a point for TP

*vomits up liver*

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Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/23/2009 8:50:27 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #192
For the last time, there's nothing wrong with the scoring system!
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Match 47 - Bracket: CoD4 > Brawl - Vote: Galaxy (163/240)
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/23/2009 8:51:56 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #193
Division 8: Round 2 - Match 48 – Metal Gear Solid 4 vs. Portal vs. Fallout 3 vs. Halo 3

Moltar’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid 4
Round 1 - 41.91% vs. Portal, Bioshock and LittleBigPlanet

At least you didn’t disappoint me.

Portal
Round 1 - 24.14% vs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Bioshock and LittleBigPlanet

This is not a lie.

Fallout 3
Round 1 - 37.61% vs. Halo 3, Left 4 Dead and Mass Effect

GotY poll made this pretty easy to see

Halo 3
Round 1 - 26.98% vs. Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead and Mass Effect

Decent performance

*We now interrupt this regularly scheduled analysis to go back to the story because this match is…boring.*

Previously, Link encountered Terra at the gate of Centro Midgar. The two started to fight, and Terra showed her strength as one of the Top captains. Link had no choice but to reveal his strongest transformation, Fierce Deity Link, against Terra.

A world united,
Becomes divided,
War starts without fail
Now witness the tale
Intermission…

9: Crew

*At Link’s crew location*

Zelda: C’mon guys, let’s take out these squads!

Deku: Take this, Deku Deku…Nuts!

*Deku shoots Deku’s nuts out of its mouth, and those that hit the opponents stun them*

Zora: Zora Zora…Wave!

*Zora sends out a wave of water that washes away the stunned enemies*

Goron: Bring it, suckas! Goron Goron…Punch!

*Goron hits a large amount of incoming squad members*

Tingle: Hey big boys! Tingle Tingle…Dance!

Random Squad Member: Oh god my eyes!

*The squad members who see Tingle dancing retreat in fear*

Zelda: You guys are doing great! *dodge*

Balthier: Your opponent is me and my sword. *The sword continues to weave its way around back to Zelda, who blocks it again*

Zelda: Din Din…Fire!

*Zelda sends out a ball of fire that explodes once it contacts Balthier, sending him to the ground*

Zelda: Alright guys, we took out enough of them. Let’s catch up to Link!

*The crew members take out a few more squad men and leave the area, heading towards Centro Midgar*

~*To Be Continued*~

I have MGS4 > Fallout 3 in my bracket, as I figured they would be the two strongest games here going by the GotY poll. Portal and Halo would just be outclassed.

R1 pretty much proved that right. MGS4 dominated its group, and Fallout 3 had no problem with Halo. Plus, Brawl’s performance today legitimizes MGS4 and Fallout 3 in my eyes. Halo 3 is going to need something big to even get 2nd here if CoD4 and Galaxy are any indication. At least I believe Portal has an independent enough fanbase to not do too badly here. Halo 3 is in for a world of hurt.

I think MGS4 will do really well here. I don’t believe Fallout 3 is going to be as strong as it showed in the GotY polls now that more time has passed. It’ll be up there, but I’d be surprised if it came close to MGS4.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: MGS4 > Fallout 3

Moltar’s Prediction is: MGS4: 37% - Fallout 3: 27% - Portal: 19% - Halo 3: 17%



Lopen’s Analysis

Not a very interesting match. The only potential for upset I see here is MGS4 being hurt by more games in the poll (losing the franchise vote) and losing to Fallout 3. But you won't see me get on that. We just saw this like 3 months ago in the GotY, and we just saw Fallout 3 beat Halo 3 quite comfortably, so this shouldn't be very debatable. I also don't foresee next round being interesting at all... I'll be very surprised if Brawl has any trouble whatsoever from these two this time around.

Borrrinnnggg

Lopen's prediction
MGS4 - 32.02%
Fallout 3 - 29.12%
Halo 3 - 21.22%
Portal - 17.64%
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/23/2009 8:52:21 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #194
Transience’s Analysis

Big day from Brawl today, though I seem less impressed than everyone else. Maybe it's because I look at the most anticipated game of the last 5 years vs. a FPS and say "this is surprising? really?". Maybe it's because I figured Galaxy was trash after round 1.

Or maybe it's because I have an unhealthy level of respect for MGS4 and a good amount for Fallout 3 as well.

Let me go on record here: I'd probably take MGS4 over MGS1. I believe in it and have for a long time. It's the first MGS title that seems to have really permeated the mainstream instead of the niche MGS fanbase which is sizable and loyal. MGS4 has become the FF7 of the PS3, and while the PS3 fanbase isn't huge, it's a game everyone knows about and everyone loves.

Fallout 3 is another one. As I said in the stats topic today, it's the biggest RPG in the last three years by far. This is an RPG site first and foremost; Fallout 3 is still #1 on the FAQs eight months later. It's barely budged since release. It had considerable hype and sold great.

Put these games together and you've got an impressive Big Three from 2008: Fallout 3, MGS4 and Brawl. I think they walk through this division with ease. We were down on Brawl because it couldn't separate itself from these guys but I think they're all legit. Brawl's a cut above, but I'm okay with MGS4 as a top 15-20 game and Fallout 3 as a top 30 one.

That's my long-winded way of saying that this match is boring and nothing interesting can happen here. Portal's got a chance of making it interesting with Fallout 3 if it gets that hardcore support we've seen from it in the past, and it's got a great picture, but I don't think it's in Fallout's class. I wouldn't be surprised if it held the lead for a couple minutes at the onset of the poll though.

Halo is screwed here. It's time to show how distanced the 2007 games are from the 2008 ones. COD4 showed us the beginning of it today and Halo 3 will slam the door shut tomorrow.

Solid Snake, Pip Boy
two tiers above cake and Chief
almost round 3 time

transience's prediction:

Metal Gear Solid 4 - 36%
Fallout 3 - 29%
Portal - 20%
Halo 3 - 15%



Leonhart’s Analysis

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots: Metal Gear Solid 4 put up a pretty good performance last round, scoring nearly 42% against some decent competition. Now it gets to face a game in Fallout 3 that challenged it in the GOTY polls twice last year. MGS4 had a clear advantage over it, and I don’t expect that to change here. I don’t see any reason for the order to change, especially when Fallout 3 wasn’t quite as dominant as it needed to be to contend here.

Portal: Portal put up a pretty good performance last round, holding off BioShock after a strong start. I don’t think it’s got what it takes to win this match, but it should be able to give Halo 3 a run for its money for third place. In fact, I expect it to take third place here, but it may be close. We might get to see a meaningless ASV run by Halo 3 here!

Fallout 3: Fallout 3 won its first round match with ease and basically resolved any doubt about which two games are going to advance here. At the same time, I don’t think it did enough to make me think it could challenge MGS4 for first place here. It gave up nearly 42% to Halo 3, and after seeing how badly Halo games have performed this contest, that’s not as good as what MGS4 did against Portal. It could prove me wrong here, but I think MGS4 > Fallout 3 is a pretty obvious result here.
Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 5/23/2009 8:52:59 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #195
Halo 3: The final Halo game left standing won’t be left standing for long. As if the series didn’t look bad enough in the first round, Halo goes and loses easily to an SFF’d Wind Waker this round, and World of Warcraft fails to advance against Oblivion after beating Halo 2 the round before. Halo 3 got about 42% on Fallout 3 last round, so don’t expect too much out of it here. It’s fighting for third place here.

Leonhart’s Vote: Metal Gear Solid 4! No chance for these losers!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Metal Gear Solid 4 – 34.29%
Portal – 19.75%
Fallout 3 – 26.67%
Halo 3 – 19.29%



Ed Bellis’s Analysis

Apparently I missed a number back in the 30s AND NOBODY TOLD ME. =(

Metal Gear Solid 4 seems to be the obvious winner, having previously swept the Round One poll with over 40 percent of the vote. Odds are on Fallout 3, which won with almost 40 percent of the vote, to get second place, with Portal and Halo 3 fighting for the remaining percentages.

But I’m actually gonna back Portal on this one. If there’s any game that has a fanbase that will never abandon it under any circumstances, it’s probably Portal. If there’s any game that probably gets stronger as its competition increases, it’s probably Portal. As Call of Duty 4 is currently proving, blowouts among weak games don’t necessarily translate well to good late-round performances.

Metal Gear Solid 4 with 39.00%
Portal with 25.66%
Fallout 3 with 20.90%
Halo 3 with 14.44%



Guest’s Analysis - nintendogirl1

Here we go again, the game of the decade is back to show GameFAQs how a true game should perform. Metal Gear Sowhat/ Failout3/ Hellno3/ Portal are raising their claim for a place in the 3rd Round.

Metal Gear Sowhat kicked ass last round and there’s little reason to assume it won’t today. Easy first. Halo 3 was 60-40’d by Fallout 3, and the factors haven’t lined up for it to even come close to turning that over. So the question is can MGS4 get 63.5% on Fallout 3 because if it can, Portal is in with a chance.

Okay you’re right, the notion is ridiculous, but let’s think about it. MGS4 is THE PS3 title so you can believe that it’ll knock some of the stuffing out of FO3. Also, if you look at Fallout 3’s sales, it sold a massive 5 million copies. The expansions? Not even close to that, people are bored of the game already, bored of Betheseda whoring out buggy expansion after buggy expansion. So you want to play a game with moral choices?

I point you at the WCC, a MASSIVE moral choice needed there. You want to shoot things? Do it in Halo 3. Want stealthy bits (Note at this point I am unaware of if there even ARE stealthy bits in FO3), play MGS4. Everything FO3 has to offer, the other games in the poll can do.

MGS4 - 30.17%
Portal - 24.70%
FO3 - 24.52%
Halo 3 - 20.61%

PS: Have you seen that pic? Massively pro-Portal.

PPS: I’m voting Portal.

PPPS: At the end of this round, Portal will be still alive.

FINAL THOUGHT: I hope.

FINAL THOUGHT PS: STILL ALIVE



Crew Consensus: MGS4 > Fallout 3, though we have two with Portal in second.
nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/23/2009 8:54:50 PM | message detail | filter | #196
My logic > Bellis'.
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transience | Posted 5/23/2009 8:59:38 PM | message detail | filter | #197
stop sabotaging Guest's points dammit
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/23/2009 9:00:22 PM | message detail | filter | #198
From: transience
stop sabotaging Guest's points dammit

You won't be saying that when portal comes in 2nd!
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ZFS | Posted 5/23/2009 9:11:57 PM | message detail | filter | #199
Today should be pretty boring. The only pick here is MGS4 > Fallout 3. Portal and Halo 3 aren't even in the same tier as those two, so they're relegated to 'non-factor' status today.

The bigger thing to watch for is how close MGS4/Fallout 3 are to each other. We've got the GotY poll showing this could be a good match, with Fallout maybe even having a chance to pull off an upset. On the other hand, we've got Brawl dominating yesterday, which might mean that MGS4 is legit. I don't know that I buy that, though. I think both MGS and Fallout are a good tier below Brawl despite what those polls say -- either that, or Brawl isn't equal to Melee like everyone is calling for.

It'll have a chance to impress me today. I think every Metal Gear game has been average at best with their performances, so I'm expecting something similar from MGS4.

Metal Gear Solid 4 -- 33%
Fallout 3 -- 29%
Portal -- 21%
Halo 3 -- 17%

Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 4 > Fallout 3
Favorites: Metal Gear Solid 4 > Halo 3

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/23/2009 9:21:11 PM | message detail | filter | #200
It's the first MGS title that seems to have really permeated the mainstream instead of the niche MGS fanbase which is sizable and loyal.

The original MGS did this, too, for what it's worth. Maybe not to the extent that MGS4 has, but it did get a lot of publicity and hype. MGS2 got a fair amount, too, but after a mixed reception, MGS3 kinda went under the radar.

If there’s any game that has a fanbase that will never abandon it under any circumstances, it’s probably Portal. If there’s any game that probably gets stronger as its competition increases, it’s probably Portal.

Chances are good that games like this don't really exist.
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