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Best Game Ever 2 Contest Analysis Crew (Part Two)

LeonhartFour | Posted 4/25/2009 1:04:35 PM | message detail | filter | #251
YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Glad I picked against my bracket this time!

And man, with FFVIII winning this handily, it could still take second even if FFIX is there! Okay, probably not, so go Half-Life!

StarCraft = Gonzaga, called it!

This is the best result of the contest so far! And yeah, StarCraft is overrated, but it's still of solid strength. This result probably means bad things for Diablo II and WoW, for what it's worth.
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voltch | Posted 4/25/2009 1:07:07 PM | message detail | filter | #252
when leon voted,the poll accidently gave FFVIII an extra 10k votes.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 4/25/2009 1:16:46 PM | message detail | filter | #253
Why the analysis crew put that faith in Starcraft?What good is this game anyway?Just because they like it in Korea?I don't get it...I saw also some people that they were furious that Starcaft didn't took the number 1 spot!Is this game any special anyway?And even if it is,it faces the 2nd favorite FF game!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/25/2009 1:25:52 PM | message detail | filter | #254
I seriously doubt Starcraft manages to make up this much difference even with FFIX there.

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transience | Posted 4/25/2009 1:29:01 PM | message detail | filter | #255
depends how static that fanbase is.
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/25/2009 1:33:35 PM | message detail | filter | #256
I love this match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/25/2009 1:43:27 PM | message detail | filter | #257
I think FFIX would still win, but definitely not 60/40. I don't think this match means auto-win for FFIX tomorrow because it's not this strong, in my opinion. Of course, it all depends on what Half-Life does.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/25/2009 7:32:57 PM | message detail | filter | #258
Hmm, Starcraft is looking to finish around 34k votes. In 2k4 even in its lowest voted match against KH where it didn't need rallying it got over 40k votes. Has Starcraft really lost 6k fans when we're getting higher vote totals in matches, or is it just that those 6k fans like Final Fantasy more? I wonder what would have happened if we had something like FF6 vs. Starcraft in 2k4.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/25/2009 8:17:41 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #259
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 20 – Chrono Cross vs. Final Fantasy IX vs. Half-Life vs. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Moltar’s Analysis

Chrono Cross
2004 Results: N/A

Not Chrono Trigger

FFIX
2004 Results: N/A

Not Final Fantasy VII

Half-Life
2004 Results: Lost in Round 1 against Metroid Prime

Not…Half-Life 2?

Ocarina of Time
2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Fallout 2
Won in Round 2 against Super Mario 64
Won in Round 3 against GoldenEye
Lost in Round 4 against Final Fantasy VII

In 2004, the finals were held in Round 4.

Ocarina of Time time. Nothing holding it back here, so it should end up looking really great. With it sucking up over half the vote, the battle for second is wide open, and the dispute to advance is between FF9 and Half-Life.

If you thought FF8 was overshadowed, then FF9 is locked in a completely black room. Released at the end of the PS and very overlooked by the FF’s around it, FF9 doesn’t look to be at the level of the stronger FF games surrounding it. Plus, you have another RPG, Chrono Cross, here, and that doesn’t do it any favors.

On the other hand, you have Half-Life. While it lacks that FF brand-name, you can’t deny that the HL series has soared in stock since Half-Life 2’s release. This should mean good things for HL here. Also, unlike other PC games here, HL actually has a very solid fanbase behind it.

With OoT dominating, I think HL’s 20-or so percent could get it through to Round 2. FFIX looks good to advance after FFVIII’s performance today though. Hell, pre-contest I would have taken FFT to win here. Now, I think HL would beat FFT (in this match) in a close one, and FF9 should be stronger than FFT. Also noting that PC games have been underperforming; I don’t think HL will underperform here. I just think FF9 will be flat out stronger.

That’s right, for the first time in this division; I’m going against my bracket. And hopefully, for the first time, I’ll get a match completely right in this division!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: OoT > Half-Life

Moltar’s Prediction is: OoT: 52% - FFIX: 20% - Half-Life: 19% - Chrono Cross: 9%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

FFVIII domination aw yeah

After yesterday's blowout, today's match seems a lot less important. FFVIII just destroyed StarCraft so badly that what FFIX does here today, win or lose, probably won't have too much of an affect next round, not enough to change things in SC's favor, anyway.

But this is still an interesting match -- we get to see how FFIX does for once, how big of a win Ocarina can put up and how it compares to FFVII, and whether or not Half-Life is worth anything in a post-Orange Box world. Most of the answers we'll get here will probably be expected, but there's always a chance for something mindblowing to happen.

From where I'm sitting, having seen FFVIII wreck what was likely the strongest PC game heading into the contest, I like Final Fantasy IX to get an 'easy' win here. It won't be a blowout, and it won't be hugely impressive, but I don't think it'll be a tight match either. I'll give HL credit in that it's a much bigger series today than it was back in 2004, thanks to the Orange Box bringing the games to consoles, but enough to stand up to a Final Fantasy? Not buyin' it.

Finding a relatively weak mainline Final Fantasy is going to be tough. I don't think FFIX is going to be the Majora's Mask of the series -- FFXII far better fits this bill -- but it won't be on par with FFVII/FFX/FFVII/FFVI either. Slightly above FF1 and FFIV, indirectly, is about where I'd peg it, which is more than enough to win today's match. We'll see what happens there.
Master Moltar | Posted 4/25/2009 8:18:09 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #260
As for Ocarina, I'm not sure what it needs to impress today, or at least match FFVII's 55%, but I'm putting it slightly under what the general expectation will probably be. Mid-40s on this pack isn't bad by any means, but it's enough to make me feel good about a FFVII repeat 1v1. C'mon FFIX overperform to make Cloud look better !

Ocarina of Time -- 46%
Final Fantasy IX -- 24%
Half-Life -- 20%
Chrono Cross -- 10%

Bracket: Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy IX
Favorites: Final Fantasy IX > Chrono Cross



Transience’s Analysis


Wow, I guess I was wrong about FF8. What a great performance for it. I still stand by the idea that Starcraft is overrated trash, but even with it being overrated it's probably a mid-tier game and FF8 is rolling all over it. This isn't on RBY's level, but it's up there. FF8 deserves to be in the argument for getting out of the division.

It's natural to assume that since FF8 is dominating today that FF9 will tomorrow, but I think the situations are different:

1. FF9 has never shown great strength in contest matches like FF8 had in the past;
2. There's this behemoth named Ocarina of Time in the room.

In the FF8 match, we've got two games well past its prime and an overrated dud; it makes logical sense that if you don't care about any of them, you'll toss a vote to the Final Fantasy game. FF9 doesn't have this luxury: it's got Ocarina to suck up any apathetic votes. It's also going against a game that is more relevant to the average GameFAQs user, Half-Life. Half-Life has exploded since 2004: Half-Life 2 came out and The Orange Box has introduced it to a huge new audience. On top of that, Half-Life is a PC game through and through: those tend to have a more independent fanbase. Square and Nintendo may be on different systems, but let's face it, those fanbases overlap all the time. If Zelda dominates, FF9 could be in trouble.

People want to make this match about FF9 and Half-Life, but I'm more interested in what Ocarina can do. FF9 or Half-Life are gone next round anyway, but I get the sense that Ocarina can run up crazy numbers against average competition. I get the feeling we'll be talking about Ocarina > FF7 after this match. I just see it as being the superior game for mid-tier blowouts.

As for the match for second, I'll tentatively support FF9. I've never believed it to be *that* far away from FF8. It's currently one place below FF8 on the FAQs and only has 50 fewer votes in My Games. Head to head it might have some trouble, but outside of that I think it's pretty comparable. Chrono Cross was my worry coming into this match, but having seen FF8 go nuts with Xenogears in the poll I think we can disregard Chrono Cross having any kind of an effect. Half-Life's not something to be underestimated but I trust that FF fanbase after seeing them vote for FF8 today.

argh

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transience's prediction:

Chrono Cross - 8%
Final Fantasy IX - 24%
Half-Life - 18%
Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 50%
Master Moltar | Posted 4/25/2009 8:18:50 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #261
Leon’s Analysis

Chrono Cross: Chrono Cross is one of those games I’m not sure how it’ll perform. I don’t take Serge’s performance in 2007 as an indicator of how strong Chrono Cross is, just like I don’t use Ramza as an indicator of Final Fantasy Tactics’s strength. At the same time, I know it doesn’t have a chance to advance here, but I suppose how high of a percentage it does get does have an effect on the match. If CC gets owned and gets held under 10%, Final Fantasy IX should be fine. If it can do well for itself, then that bodes well for Half-Life. I also don’t know how bad the LFF will be anyway. I wish I didn’t have to predict this. It’s more frustrating than fun for me. Why in the world is how a last place game finishes so important? I don’t think the Chrono name brand is exactly going to do wonders for Chrono Cross here, so don’t expect much from that either.

Final Fantasy IX: For some reason, I always find myself downplaying FFIX on the board, although I do love this game. I guess it’s because I love FFVII, FFVIII, FFX, and FFT more! Anyway, part of me really wants FFIX to advance, and part of me really doesn’t want it to advance. If it advances, FFVIII is doomed. It does have a good chance because OoT is going to be sucking up such a large percentage that I don’t know if the LFF will matter that much. If Chrono Cross weren’t here, I’d take Final Fantasy IX to advance without a second thought. I think it’ll be tight, and that’ll make it all the more gut-wrenching because I don’t know which result to root for!

Half-Life: Half-Life got 44% on Metroid Prime (which got 45% on Wind Waker) back in 2004, and the series has grown more popular since then with the release of Half-Life 2. Of course, after seeing Super Metroid struggle to put away Super Mario Kart while supposedly being stronger than Metroid Prime, I’m not sure how impressive that is anymore. Of course, I don’t know if you can really make direct comparisons like that with games because nothing seems transitive here. I wouldn’t pick Half-Life to beat Final Fantasy IX if it weren’t for Chrono Cross being there, but it’s probably not too far off indirectly. Any little advantage could shift things in its favor.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: It’s time for Ocarina of Time to show it’s up to the task of beating Final Fantasy VII this year. I really doubt it can match FFVII’s performance because its fourpack is noticeably stronger. Still, this is the site’s second strongest game at worst, so there’s no telling what it’ll do. This kinda stuff is difficult to predict. Heck, OoT could outdo FFVII here and I wouldn’t be surprised nor would I be any less confident in FFVII being stronger (unless OoT does something crazy like doubling the entire poll!). That said, I really don’t know what to predict OoT gets here, so here goes nothing!

Leonhart’s Vote: Final Fantasy IX is where it’s at, yo!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Chrono Cross – 11.05%
Final Fantasy IX –19.95%
Half-Life – 19.01%
Ocarina of Time – 49.99%



Ed Bellis’s Analysis

The (at least) second strongest game of the contest makes its debut!

Chrono Cross. That “other” game with Chrono in the title, CC is probably not as loathed as its detractors on B8 would have you believe. That said, it probably can’t compete with competition in the form of a third-tier Final Fantasy game and one of the most respected FPS franchises out there.

Final Fantasy IX.. With FF8 surpassing most people’s expectations, it seems like FF9 – “third-tier” by most estimates – is a shoe-in for advancing. Anti-votes don’t seem to matter too much in the four-way format, and the voting pool (BAAAAHHHH) seems all too apt to support their favorite franchise.
Master Moltar | Posted 4/25/2009 8:19:32 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #262
Half-Life. In 2004 Half-Life lost to Metroid Prime. I initially took it for second place over FF9 in this match, but… well, see above. >_>

Zelda: Ocarina of Time. The biggest question here for Ocarina of Time is whether or not it can outdo FF7’s percentages. I would honestly say “yes, it should be able to” – I’d take Mario Kart 64 over all of the other games here, though I could easily be wrong as well. If it doesn’t compete with FF7, it may already be out of the running for the championship.

Prediction: why did I bet on Gordon Freeman again
Chrono Cross with 9.70%
Final Fantasy IX with 18.09%
Half-Life with 14.07%
Zelda: Ocarina of Time with 58.14%



Guest’s Analysis - KamikazePotato

On a certain level, I detest this match. While I prefer FFIX, Half-Life deserves better than 1st round out, and I have a sinking feeling than Half-Life 2 is going to share the same fate. In a perfect world, OoT would be left in the dust! And it just might…

Nah, I’ll make a realistic analysis for once. I don’t even have to construct a Lopen-esque upset special cobbled together with duct tape and pray ers, as FFIX is going to win. I’m extremely confident in this, and while I said the same about certain other matches (what the hell Street Fighter II), this one has half of Round 1’s results going for it.

People point to Half-Life’s 45% against Metroid Prime, but that’s extremely flawed in so many ways. We got 60% of the votals we do now in 2k4, and that certainly helped HL out. We’ve seen a lot of games that performed well in lower votals do worse this year, and Half-Life will be no different. Pretty much every game similar to Half-Life – Contra, Doom, Goldeneye, Deus Ex, Starcraft ect. - has disappointed so far. A big Half-Life argument is also the dedicated fanbase capitalizing on OoT gobbling up votes, but has that really worked well for any game so far? Only Monkey Island, and it took SMB3 getting 75% for it to squeak out a win against SimCity.

There’s also been talk of Half-Life increasing, but that doesn’t really make any sense to me. Half-Life 2 was released six years after Half-Life. It helps, but it probably doesn’t matter more than a marginal difference. Half-Life does have the Progenitor Factor going for it, which is a point in its favor.

A big FFIX disadvantage going into this w as LFF with Chrono Cross, but LFF has been worth very little so far. It won’t help FFIX, but I doubt it matters more than a marginal difference either.

FFVIII murdering today’s poll helps, too. FFIX won’t be that far off from it.

In conclusion, Half-Life has a ton of disadvantages going into this. The only way I see it winning is if FFIX bombs, but I doubt it does. The rest of the Crew probably sticks with Half-Life because they have it in their brackets (sorry guys, but you do it so often >_>), but mine’s painful to look at by this point, so I’m just going with whoever is the overwhelming favorite to win. Which is FFIX.

Ocarina of Time: 52%
Final Fantasy IX: 23%
Half-Life: 17%
Chrono Cross: 8%



Crew Consensus: OoT > FFIX is…unanimous? Uh oh!
LeonhartFour | Posted 4/25/2009 8:24:05 PM | message detail | filter | #263
Bad things happen whenever the Crew goes unanimous (unless Lopen saves us)! Either way, I get what I want! I get the match right, or FFIX fails to advance and makes life easy for FFVIII!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/25/2009 8:30:53 PM | message detail | filter | #264
The rest of the Crew probably sticks with Half-Life because they have it in their brackets

whoops

Also, what the hell guys. I was supposed to have the highest FFIX %!

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Master Moltar | Posted 4/25/2009 8:39:00 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #265
KP owned
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Match 19 - Bracket: Starcraft > FF8 - Vote: SC (54/72)
transience | Posted 4/25/2009 8:50:28 PM | message detail | filter | #266
Castlevania > Kingdom Hearts redux right here
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/25/2009 8:56:47 PM | message detail | filter | #267
More like Big Boss>Magus Version 2

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transience | Posted 4/25/2009 8:59:52 PM | message detail | filter | #268
well, I've always believed FF8 and FF9 were pretty close to each other. now that I've seen one I have confidence in the other.

different situations though. three games GF doesn't really care about vs. Ocarina. I'm looking forward to some Ocarina > FF7 hype after this one.
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Zamza | Posted 4/25/2009 9:18:48 PM | message detail | filter | #269
Zamza's Analysis

That moron Lopen had Starcraft winning the entire contest, and is currently weeping over his "busted bracket." You'll do much better with me analyzing this match, so just sit back and enjoy.

While it is always trivial for me to flawlessly predict a match, seeing Final Fantasy tear through this bracket makes this match exceedingly trivial to analyze, and I'm sure even the misguided analysts in this topic will agree with me. Some of the less educated would claim that Half Life has a devoted PC fanbase that will vault it into contention here. Unfortunately, those poor souls are woefully mistaken.

What they don't realize is that Final Fantasy IX has a similarly devoted fanbase, and is actually a popular game on top of that. Other laughable fools will claim that on merit of the game being a PC title it will garner votes from that alone. I would like to humbly counter with the fact that that Final Fantasy IX is the only RPG in this. On such an RPG biased site, this is. You may continue to think that this is actually a contest on say... IGN, though, if it makes you feel better about your foolish pick's chances.

It may not have done spectacularly on the "favorite Final Fantasy game" polls, but let's just be honest here: When a flawed game such as Final Fantasy VIII can obtain 40% of the vote, you know that these people don't even care which game from the series is actually being voted on. With the current state of the American educational system, I'm skeptical as to whether the average voter is even able to comprehend which Roman numeral is which, quite frankly.

I've forgotten the fourth member of this match, but it isn't relevant. If it were at all worth my time, I would remember. As always, you should follow my example and forget it exists as well.

Zamza's Prediction:
Ocarina of Time with 50.11%
Final Fantasy IX with 23.22%
Half Life with 19.33%
The other game with 7.34%
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Ngamer64 (tc) | Posted 4/25/2009 9:26:55 PM | message detail | filter | #270
Oh man, I can't believe this setup...

*prepares to rip the Crew a third corn shoot*

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Ngamer64 (tc) | Posted 4/25/2009 11:01:00 PM | message detail | filter | #271
Ngamer's Rebellious Writeup

Alrighty, well, SC underperformed in this one, no doubt about it, and there's also little doubting that FF8 has some legitimately scary strength; possibly it isn't even all that far behind FFX, to my surprise. Let's check the direct stats.... FF8 > SC with 61%, SC > Soul Cal with 64%, FF8 > Xeno with 77.4%. Good heavens! I was all prepared to come in here and say "don't tear up your brackets yet; SC still pulled 30% against good competition, and with Ocarina and possibly FF9 rolling in next round this could still turn into a barn burner." But I didn't realize how far 8 had pulled away beyond those first 4 hours... okay, guess I've got to agree with the consensus in saying that 8's got 2nd place locked up next round no matter what shows up there with it. Luckily for my bracket, I advanced Half-Life and had SC going out R2 anyways due to the PC overlap- not exactly impressive to get a pick correct for all the wrong reasons, but in a bracket this wild I'll take the points any way I can get them!

But hold up a minute, is FF9 actually a lock to advance today, as my fellow Crewmates have unanimously decided? (Funny, I criticize them for sticking to their FFT-loving brackets after Pokemon shows them up yet here they've abandoned those brackets entirely after seeing a few fireworks from FF!) Let's take a closer look, shall we? To start, here are three points that hopefully we can all agree on:

* Half-Life should be stronger than Gordon Freeman. mute protagonists like Link and Mr. Freeman aren't loved for their character appeal, they are supported because their games are so enjoyable- that's why Gordon flopped horribly in the earlier years when he just looked like a blob in those match pics but has become a respectable mid-carder since he started getting pics that displayed the HL logo and helped associate him with the growing franchise

* HL2 is the GotY-winning game that really put this series back on the map, but if DKC1 > DKC2 and Sonic 1 > Sonic 2 and RE1 > RE2 are any indication, it's pretty helpful to be the first game in a respected series. so even if HL2 is the stronger entrant, the difference is probably minimal

* Ocarina is going to be gobbling up 50% of the vote here, and the hardcore Crono supporters are going to be earning CC another 10%. now maybe OoT goes a little below or climbs a bit higher (anything TOO far above 50 though and I'd be shocked; its facing 3 games with very strong fanbases and I doubt any of them cough up free percentage points like Star Fox did) and maybe CC crumbles a little and only does 8 or 9 percent, but basically this match is going to be decided within that remaining 40%

Alright, so in other words, the first game to 20% wins. What kind of track record does Half-Life have then it comes to collecting 20% of the vote? Let's look back at last year.
Ngamer64 (tc) | Posted 4/25/2009 11:01:22 PM | message detail | filter | #272
- Gordon pulls down 28.47% against Scorpion, Big Daddy, and Balthier. pretty disappointing, especially considering Scorp beat him cleanly by 2%. clearly Freeman is awful at acting like a vote vaccum against weak competition. but when things get tougher....
- Gordon pulls down 24.49% against Vincent, Scorpion, and Falco. yikes, despite facing the guy who's expected to smash the NN, Freeman only loses 4% and turns a 2% lose to Scorp into a 5% win! clearly this HL fanbase is dedicated, but what happens when we REALLY turn up the heat?
- Gordon pulls down 17.82% against Samus, Vincent, and Ganon. even with two NN-level opponents in the house, the HL fanbase not only keeps Gordon around that 20% mark, they allow him to beat Ganon outright!

So yes, I'm not crazy enough to pick HL1 > FF9 directly, but I don't have to be for it to win this one, in the same way that you wouldn't have had to take Freeman > Ganon directly! Which is well and good, but has the Valve fanbase ever shown us they're capable of 20% outside of Gordon?

- GlaDOS pulls down exactly 20.00% against Vincent, Falco, and Wander.

- WCC pulls down 19.18% against Cloud, Snake, and Mewtwo

Alright, so those last two may say more about joke entrant potential then they do the Valve fanbase, but I still maintain that Gordon himself is not a joke, that the HL will be even better supported, and that furthermore the fanbase always looks best when the competition is toughest. Tonight will be that hardest competition of all those examples, but HL is going to come through with flying colors, just you watch!

DOWN GOES FF9 to the tune of

Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 48.64%
Half-Life - 20.82%
Final Fantasy IX - 20.70%
Chrono Cross - 9.84%

Take THAT, Crew!

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transience | Posted 4/25/2009 11:06:25 PM | message detail | filter | #273
oh, I'm taking it alright.
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Ngamer64 (tc) | Posted 4/25/2009 11:26:38 PM | message detail | filter | #274
*grumbles under his breath*

Well HL's hanging in there around 16%, which I guess makes sense considering OoT alone makes this pack a little tougher than that Samus/Vincent/Ganon group Gordon put 18% on. Yeah, upset's not going to work out for me, but I still maintain there was a good enough chance to make the opportunity of smacking the whole Crew around too good to pass up.

More importantly, wow, Ocarina already at 52% with what figures to be a very favorable Day Vote still to come? I get the feeling that about 16 hours from now we'll all be hailing the future champ!

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Lopen | Posted 4/25/2009 11:35:52 PM | message detail | filter | #275
Personally I'd call FFVII's pack as tough as this one. This doesn't support nor go against OoT in the end.

Good job to Zamza calling this one right on my behalf. Kinda surprised the whole crew went Half Life. I will say that I didn't abandon my bracket here, had FF IX winnin the whole time.
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Ngamer64 (tc) | Posted 4/25/2009 11:52:29 PM | message detail | filter | #276
Ehh, I'd take FF9 > MK64, HL1 > SF64, and CC > Suikoden, all without hesitation. But then Ocarina gains the major advantage of standing way out from two PSX RPGs and a PC-only FPS, while FF7 had Suikoden there to help MK64 look good against it. So yeah, in the end I guess I'd agree that their percentages ought to be fairly close.

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transience | Posted 4/25/2009 11:59:26 PM | message detail | filter | #277
I'd call OOT's pack tougher, but I believe that OOT is better suited to blow stuff out.
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ZFS | Posted 4/26/2009 12:01:03 AM | message detail | filter | #278
OoT's ain't that much tougher after this. Give me MK64 and SF64 over HL and CC.

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transience | Posted 4/26/2009 12:02:12 AM | message detail | filter | #279
sure, and give me FF9 destroying SOR2!
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ZFS | Posted 4/26/2009 12:03:14 AM | message detail | filter | #280
Streets of Rage 2 what !

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 12:04:02 AM | message detail | filter | #281
I don't see how this result can be taken as anything but an Advantage OoT, but we'll see.

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ZFS | Posted 4/26/2009 12:04:52 AM | message detail | filter | #282
Half-Life sucking it up is where all the percentage went. Not that surprising.

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transience | Posted 4/26/2009 12:05:52 AM | message detail | filter | #283
er, Suikoden!

same thing!
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transience | Posted 4/26/2009 12:06:25 AM | message detail | filter | #284
Half-Life's not really sucking it up that bad. FF9's a tier above it and always has been.
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ZFS | Posted 4/26/2009 12:07:31 AM | message detail | filter | #285
Can't see how this isn't Half-Life sucking, especially since this gap will be wider by the end of the poll -- it might end up closer to Chrono Cross than it does FFIX. For a match that people thought would be close and debated, this is pretty awful for HL.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 12:08:01 AM | message detail | filter | #286
There's only so weak you should be willing to put Half-Life. OoT is getting almost the same % FF7 did against tougher competition. That just says Advantage OoT to me.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 12:09:15 AM | message detail | filter | #287
The only reason this match was debated was because of LFF and hardcore fanbases prevailing.

Neither has mattered at all in this contest, so HL doing this isn't very surprising.

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goku z | Posted 4/26/2009 12:11:49 AM | message detail | filter | #288
So now the question is: FF8 or SC for 2nd next round? FF8, as my favorite game ever, has my vote. But I'm just not sure. FF8 will lose votes to OoT as well as FF9. I voted OoT over 9, and I loved 9. SC may sneak by.
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ZFS | Posted 4/26/2009 12:12:05 AM | message detail | filter | #289
Don't know why people believe this competition is that much better here. FFIX is better than anything from either pack, but give me MK64 and SF64 over HL. CC's stronger than Suikoden, but S1 wouldn't be doing that much worse, if at all, today. Only so far you can push these cult RPG games down.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/26/2009 12:12:37 AM | message detail | filter | #290
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 12:12:48 AM | message detail | filter | #291
I'd take HL over SF64, even after this result, so I can't say I agree.

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ZFS | Posted 4/26/2009 12:13:42 AM | message detail | filter | #292
Although I should probably mention that only works with notable cult RPGs -- Xenogears, Chrono Cross, Suikoden, etc. -- not the SNES fodder that can't get above 5%.

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red sox 777 | Posted 4/26/2009 12:16:03 AM | message detail | filter | #293
Nah, the reason Xenogears and Chrono Cross can't by pushed down to the mid-single digits like the obscure SNES RPGs is that they are simply much stronger.
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goku z | Posted 4/26/2009 12:16:24 AM | message detail | filter | #294
The hell, why can't I ever get a response in this topic >.>
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transience | Posted 4/26/2009 12:24:36 AM | message detail | filter | #295
SF64 over Half-Life? really?
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Lopen | Posted 4/26/2009 12:25:16 AM | message detail | filter | #296
I'd take SF64 over HL in a second.
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transience | Posted 4/26/2009 12:26:37 AM | message detail | filter | #297
y'all are nuts. SF64 is weak. really weak.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/26/2009 12:26:41 AM | message detail | filter | #298
SF64 over Half-Life? really?

Until I saw people debating FFIX/Half-Life, I would have taken SF64 over HL without a second thought.
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Lopen | Posted 4/26/2009 12:30:20 AM | message detail | filter | #299
Star Fox 64 did really well considering it was against Mario Kart 64 and FFVII. 17% isn't a bad showing at all.
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transience | Posted 4/26/2009 12:34:35 AM | message detail | filter | #300