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Best Game Ever 2 Contest Analysis Crew (Part Two)
Part
One hit 500 and I have no place to post my new Crew writeup, so I'll
have to start the new topic myself. If Moltar would rather start his
own when he gets back that would be fine, I'll close this one and move
my writeup over if that's the case. Quick pred for the match about to start: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 41.71% Mortal Kombat II - 31.07% Secret of Mana - 19.97% Shining Force II - 7.25% --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
Ngamer's Rebellious Writeup Well, let's see here. I predicted MMX to put up 34% directly on FF6, but instead it's going to end up at... 38%. Whoo, nice work Mega Man! Now if only that "4th tier, handheld, don't worry about it" Zelda game hadn't gone and scored an astonishing 44% I'd be sitting pretty. Ever since it squeezed past the 40 mark people are trying to spin this as "not so bad" for FF6, but sorry, I don't buy it. PS4 was super-pathetic and the other two options are very heavily Nintendo- this was an ideal position for what was supposed to be the #2 entry in the 2nd most popular series on this site, yet it failed to capitalize whatsoever. Everyone in Stats has been jumping on Ulti for claiming showings like this indicate that Ocarina is going to have the upper hand heading into the Final, but seriously, if FFX and FF8 can't impress me way more than 6 did today I'm also going to start having doubts about FF. Anyways, the sad thing about 6's underperformance today is that it doesn't even matter- regardless of what happened, bracket placement has already determined that it will go into the LttP rematch as a heavy favorite (thanks to Metroid and LA tagging along) but will gets its brains bashed once it takes the next step (thanks to FF7 and CT tagging along). This is why you need to take tranny and HaR's advice regarding bracket placement, SB! BOLD PREDICTION: Tonight will be the least popular match of the Contest. Older games + no Mario or Zelda or Final Fantasy = incredible apathy on the part of our voters. There also seems to be quite a bit of apathy toward this match on the part of our Crewmembers, and I can understand why. Still, there are two semi-interesting benchmarks at play in this one. First, all 4 of these games participated 5 years ago (well MK1 instead of MK2 and SF1 instead of SF2, but come on, it's a horse a piece) so we'll at least see how wacky those '04 stats are and possibly get some idea which entrants have fallen off big since '04. And secondly, we witnessed a very similar match only one week back: Sonic 1 44%; SFII 36%; Civilzation 10%; Castlevania III 10%. How will these 4 compare to their counterparts? Starting from the top, I think Sonic's in for a tumble from that 44- S3's ugly nosedive has me convinced that about half of S1 was apathy voting, and since Mana ought to maintain a much higher percentage than Civ 3 did there's just going to be less percentage to go around. With SoM, I think its '04 percentage on CT will be a good mark to shoot for. On the one hand I don't feel that Sonic 2 + MK2 + SF2 is stronger than Chrono Trigger alone, but on the other SoM feels like one of those games that would have thrived in the more cult-friendly low voter turnout days of 2004, which is why I just can't justify the MK upset. Shining Force will be blasted in the face and won't matter a bit; I can't imagine it coming close to Civilzation's final percent. And as for Mortal Kombat... as little as I respect the series, I have to admit it held up quite well on FF6 back in the day, and then just last month I was shocked to learn how well Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe had sold (despite me never hearing a peep about the game on any message board or ever noticing it in the Top FAQs). Between that and having just about the perfect match pic I've got no choice but to keep MK closer to SF's number than I would have liked, which results in... Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 41.71% Mortal Kombat II - 31.07% Secret of Mana - 19.97% Shining Force II - 7.25% Yeah, that seems alright. But here's hoping SoM puts on a fireworks display instead! --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
I
can't fathom how people even in their wildest drams could even put
forth the notion that Sonic was even half as good as MK, Shining Force
and especially Mana. --- PSN: Minister596 The one and only. |
ATTN: Anyone who went low on Sonic 2 Don't worry, Sonic is having a bad start. He will rock the European vote and the other 3 games should have a horrible ASV, which helps Sonic increase his percentage during that time period. I still think he could pull off around 41% or higher here. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
I'll copy over Moltar's intro. Announcer: Welcome ladies and gentlemen to another edition of GameFAQs Contest Association! Tonight, we have a great show in store for you! Audience: *cheers* Announcer: First up, we have- *The announcer is interrupted by Moltar’s entrance music* Audience: *loud boos* Commentator Jin Loss: BAH GAWD WHAT’S HE DOING OUT HERE? Commentator Mitchell Kole: “The Viper” Master Moltar! Shades of pasts contests! Moltar: So it’s that time of the year, contest time. It’s time for me to show why I am the best predictor in this company. In order to prove that I am the best, I will issue a challenge to anyone back there who thinks they know these contests better than me. And when I do predict the Best Game Ever 2 better than you, I will once again reclaim my GCA Analysis Title. Audience: *boos* *Leon’s entrance music hits, resulting in even more boos* Mitchell Kole: OH MY! A rare appearance from The Ultimate Oppourtunist, Leon! Leon: Listen up, Moltar. Now, I respect your prediction abilities, but everyone here knows you aren’t the best predictor in the company. I am! Yeah, that’s right. I’ll accept your challenge, and when I beat you, that title is going to be around my pretty waist. Moltar: You? You?! The last time I saw you was when I beat you back in 2006. You aren’t even in my league. You aren’t worthy of accepting my challenge! *Leon gets in Moltar’s face and the two argue, just then, this recognized intro plays* WE DA FANBOYZ, SON Audience: *huge cheers* *The music of the tag team, Fanboyz, plays and Heroic Mario and Transience head down the ramp* Jin Loss: It’s the Fanboyz! Business is about to pick up! HM: you two need to chill out. the best predictors are right here, son. Transience: that’s right, and when we win this challenge or whatever, that belt will go around my waist. HM: uhhhh “whoops”, i think you mean my waist. Transience: nope, i mean mine, son *HM and Tran begin to argue* Moltar: The two of you? You two are nothing but jokes. Neither of you will be getting my belt. *The four men in the ring now argue* *Lopen’s music then starts, drawing a negative reaction from the crowd. He is accompanied by his women.* Mitchell Kole: Modified Humor! Lopen: Listen here you rub-a-dub-dubs. None of you are the best because I am the best. I am Lopen, the greatest Analyzer of all the times! Moltar: What? You couldn’t predict that the sun would rise tomorrow morning. Leon: You couldn’t predict your way out of a paper bag! HM: you couldn’t predict a lopen upset special! Transience: you couldn’t predict…wait what *The five men go back to bickering, and then…* *Paper Rips* |
Master Moltar | Posted 4/6/2009 5:58:04 PM | message detail Audience: *HUGE cheers* Jin Loss: ED BELLIS! ED BELLIS! ED BELLIS! Mitchell Kole: Vintage Markout! *Ed Bellis heads down the ramp, a juicebox in his hand* Ed Bellis: So I’m in the back listening to a bunch of macaronis crying about title shots, and I’m thinking, “You know, the one that really deserves the title is this son of a mammer! Don’t you think so, hermano? Moltar: I don- Ed Bellis: WHAT YOU THINK IS IRRELEVANT! Audience: *cheers* Ed Bellis: So now that I’m in this little shindig, I’m going to win it and finally become Analysis Champion, and that’s the bottom line, when Bellismania is cookin’! *The General Manager of GCA, SBAllen emerges at the top of the ramp* Audience: *mixed reaction* SBAllen: Okay, I can’t have you guys taking up any more of my time, so this is what I’m going to do. Since our Analysis Title and Prediction Titles are vacant with Yoblazer’s retirement, I’m going to put them both on the line! The six of you, Master Moltar, Heroic Mario, Lopen, Transience, Leonhart, and Ed Bellis will come together to create the Contest Analysis Crew! The six of you will analyze each match and give your predictions on who will win each battle. The person who closest predicts the most matches will become the new GCA Prediction Champion, and the person who predicts the most matches correctly will be recognized as the new GCA Analysis Champion! Audience: *chants “GCA! GCA! GCA!”* SBAllen: And that’s not all, because you, the readers, will be able to get in on the action to! Each match will have a Guest Predictor! It’s your chance to be a part of the Crew and collectively go for the Gold! Audience: *cheers* *The six men talk it over in the ring* Moltar: Alright, we accept! SBAllen: That’s what I want to hear! Oh, and before I leave, I have one more announcement to make… *Everyone is on the edge of their seats as to what the announcement is.* SBAllen: The contest, Best Game Ever 2, will be…a four-way generational bracket! Audience: *heavily mixed reaction* Everyone in the ring: augh Guest Anaysis List - E-mail to mastermoltar@gmail.com upon completion. Make sure to get it in at least 5-6 hours before the match to ensure that your analysis is posted with the rest! --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
From: Ngamer64 Silly NGamer. --- We love you anyway though. |
eh, i'll allow this --- Moltar Status: you can't hide forever Match 12 - Bracket: Sonic 2 > MK2 - Vote: Sonic 2 (32/44) |
Final Fantasy III (VI)........40.05% 45319 Mega Man X...................24.63% 27871 Phantasy Star IV................3.97% 4493 Zelda: Link's Awakening...31.35% 35477 TOTAL VOTES............................113160 Matches Completely Correct - 5 Matches Partially Correct - 6 Matches Completely Wrong - 0 What Happened - Link's Awakening shows that even though it's a low-tier Zelda game, it still has what it takes to beat MMX. Even FF6 didn't do that great against it. Why it Happened - ZELDA basically. Depening on how strong LA is, it's hard to say how good/bad FF6 and MMX did. What Will Happen - LA is looking good to slide into Round 3. Crew Prediction Challenge - HM, Tran, Ed and Guest get points. Guest - 7 HM - 6 Moltar - 5 Tran - 5 Ed - 4 Leon - 3 Lopen - 3 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Ed gets the point for FF6 and LA, Moltar gets the point for MMX, and Lopen gets the point for PS4 Lopen - 9 Moltar - 8 Tran - 7 HM - 7 Ed - 6 Guest (Luster, Zylo (3), HaRR) - 5 Leon - 5 --- Moltar Status: you can't hide forever Match 12 - Bracket: Sonic 2 > MK2 - Vote: Sonic 2 (32/44) |
Totally getting the point for Secret of Mana. This is victory enough for me. --- I can feel it coming over me; I feel it all around me. http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
*sends in Analysis crew write up for next match* --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |
Oh man, I'm looking to take Lopen's spot on the bottom after today! Whoo! But at least I lowballed Sonic 2! So, uh...MKII vs. SFII: Who you got? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Whoops,
just realized there is an error in my analysis tonight! I'm posting
this so I remember to correct it later because I'm too lazy to re-send
it to Moltar! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Division 4: Round 1 - Match 13 – Donkey Kong Country 2 vs. GoldenEye 007 vs. Resident Evil 2 vs. Super Mario RPG Moltar’s Analysis DKC 2 2004 Results: N/A The second DKC game gets its turn GoldenEye 2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Panzer Dragoon Saga Won in Round 2 against Castlevania: SotN Lost in Round 3 against Ocarina of Time Was great, but now unplayable Resident Evil 2 2004 Results: N/A Is it worthy of the title “Second most popular RE game”? SMRPG 2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Street Fighter 2 Lost in Round 2 against Chrono Trigger Nintendo + Square = mid-tier game This is a pretty interesting match. Goldeneye should take first without much trouble. There’s been some doubt floating around after seeing everything not Mario/Zelda/FF stink it up, but Goldeneye should be fine. It’s proved it has fans here between it’s showing last Contest and placement on the almighty List. The bigger question is “who takes second”? It’s mostly between SMRPG and RE2, though DKC2 has a chance if DKC’s match meant anything. It’ll be competing with SMRPG for votes, and I see more people going to it than DKC2. Still, DKC shows that DKC2 could take up quite a chunk of the vote, and that spells bad things for SMRPG if it does that here. SMRPG has a better shot at second, being a Mario game and already proving it has strength by beating the oh-so-powerful Street Fighter 2 five years ago (lol street fighter 2). With Sonic stinking it up, SF2 looks a lot worse than it did a week ago, which in turn makes SMRPG look worse. However, it does have the Mario name in it, which kind of nullifies SF2’s faults because that name is looking like it means big things in this Contest. Resident Evil 2 is the game to look out for here. It won’t be as strong as RE4, but RE1/2 have done alright in polls in the past. The recent release of RE5 could also help it out here. So yeah gun sff vs. platform sff. I have Goldeneye > RE2 here. SMRPG would take it if DKC2 weren’t here. Goldeneye is going to suck up a portion those Nintendo votes, and DKC2 also looks to have a pretty tight fanbase so that’s bound to get a handful of votes. RE2 not only sticks out here from the Nintendo games, but it also should have some pretty good strength behind it. STF vs. SFF-resistance which means more in this contest let’s find out. Moltar’s Bracket Says: GoldenEye > RE2 Moltar’s Prediction is: GoldenEye: 35% - RE2: 25% - SMRPG: 24% - DKC2: 16% Lopen’s Analysis After seeing SF2 flop relative to expectations, SMRPG should be called into doubt a bit too, I'd like to think. Maybe no one here is going to, but that's okay. Why? Well, I don't think it's going to as well as I expected, but I still think it has enough to win this one. For an idea of Resident Evil 2's strength, we can just look at the popularity of Claire “SHERRY!” Redfield and the lack of presence Leon Kennedy had pre RE4. RE2 should perform true to the game here... it will need to stop movement entirely to start attacking. It will then need to turn one step. Then it will raise its gun to aim. By that time Goldeneye will have shot it in the face. DKC2... well, DKC1 did better than some of us expected, but not vastly so. It still squeaked by Doom, and for me at least it was a product of Doom failing as much as DKC doing well. DKC2, while it may be a better game, I don't believe will be as strong as DKC. I blame Dixie Kong. Who the hell created the gimmick for this thing. It won't have enough to beat SMRPG in its tank, but it might be pretty close! |
So
that leaves SMRPG and Goldeneye. Goldeneye was like... top 3 for the
N64. It made #9 or something on that Top 10 list. The game hasn't aged
well, but no one cares: Fanboyz will still wrongly claim it's better
than Halo, Quake 3, and a wealth of other superior FPSes. I'd rather
play Doom than this game, to be honest with you. Kick its ass, SMRPG. Whaddaya mean “bad review too opinionated?” Lopen's prediction: Dinosaur FPS people like because it's the only decent FPS on a Nintendo console – 30.12% Super Mario RPG – 26.22% "Lol Dixie they just wanted another DK" – 22.44% SHERRY! – 21.22% Transience’s Analysis Wow, Sonic flat out sucked. And Secret of Mana did amazing for a game that I thought would be too niche and old for today's audience. Whoops. Today we have our first true post-Nintendo game -- Resident Evil 2. This is the big divide in our contest: 2d to 3d, old games to new games, platforming to gunz. It's going to be a lot different for most of this round and then the rest of the contest. So far, there has been very little SFF in this contest due to everything being on a Nintendo system or Sonic acting as a Nintendo proxy. There's no SFF because *everything* has been Nintendo - companies don't really matter too much when Zelda and Mario overlaps with everything. RE2 is a Sony game through and through; yes, it's got a N64 port but the PS1 version is the one everybody knows. It sold an absolute truckload of copies and Resident Evil is immensely popular thanks to RE4. Resident Evil is also in the spotlight thanks to the recency of RE5. I wouldn't be amazed if it got franchise votes, especially given that the other three are Nintendo through and through. Mario RPG is one of the hardest games to peg. It doesn't seem like it should be that strong, but it did really well on that List and had no problems dispatching SF2. (then again, neither did Sonic 1 and we've seen how Sonic 2 and 3 bombed.) It's got the old HM joke -- made by Square, Mario in the title. It bridges both of our big audiences and has loads of nostalgia for a lot of people here. The one thing that could hold it back is DKC2, a Mario clone that seems to be pretty popular in its own right, having beaten Doom with LTTP in the poll. These are two different genres though so I don't think it'll be anything significant. The same goes for 007, a game that's also embraced by Nintendo fans but is absolutely nothing like Mario RPG. I think RE2 will win this easily if it takes advantage of the fanbase split, but we haven't seen it yet so I'm not going to bet on it. 007 and SMRPG advance. three Nintendo games SF2 fans feel better when Mario wins transience's prediction: Goldeneye - 37% Super Mario RPG - 26% Resident Evil 2 - 22% Donkey Kong Country 2 - 15% Leon’s Analysis Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest: This game is one of my all-time favorites, and I was thrilled when I saw that it was one of the games that was swapped into the bracket…until I saw the draw it got. Whoops. Now one of my favorite games could possibly cost another one of my favorite games a shot at advancing. Now let’s get one thing straight: DKC2 isn’t advancing. It’s just not strong enough, especially when it’s got a Mario game to deal with, even if it is Mario RPG. The biggest question is if it LFFs Mario RPG enough for Resident Evil 2 to advance. Also, watch out for the dreaded Rare LFF between DKC2 and GoldenEye! …What? |
GoldenEye 007:
You know, if it hadn’t been for The List, I wouldn’t be surprised if
GoldenEye/Mario RPG would be a hotly debated match on the board. No one
thought much of GoldenEye’s contest strength until The List (Seriously,
it was considered the second weakest game in the Sweet Sixteen, only in
front of Tetris, back in 2004), and hardly anyone predicted it making
the top ten (if you did, kudos to you!). Now all of a sudden it’s a
powerhouse to be feared! Nostalgia is a powerful thing indeed, but I’m
not fully sold on its strength. After all, it barely quadrupled Panzer
Dragoon Saga, which for all intents and purposes, should have been one
of the weakest games in the original Games Contest. Plus, how much is
60% on SOTN really worth? Would SFII/SOTN be a debatable match
to you? If so, then Mario RPG’s got a shot! Not that I’m picking Mario
RPG to take first here (especially when it’s got DKC2 to deal with),
but I think GoldenEye may be getting a bit overhyped due to The List.
Of course, it may prove me wrong and destroy the poll, but I’m just
mulling over some things in my mind and playing a bit of devil’s
advocate here. Resident Evil 2: I don’t know what to think of Resident Evil 2. All I know is that the original couldn’t even score 30% on Metal Gear Solid in the series’ worst year. That is not impressive in the least. Sure, you can chalk it up to PS1 SFF if you want, but I’m still left skeptical. I don’t know much of anything about the RE series, but I know that RE5 just came out and the series is about as strong as it’s ever been. After all, Chris Redfield went from losing to Pyramid Head to getting closer to Fox than Fox did to Sora (I honestly think the pictures used for him had a decent effect there though), and Jill Valentine beat Ocelot despite having absolutely no reason to do so. I’ve also heard that RE2 was considered to be the most popular in the series before RE4 came along. Honestly though, if DKC2 hadn’t been swapped in here in place of Fallout, this match probably wouldn’t be debatable. That was just about the only game swap that made any difference at all. I don’t think many people will take RE2 over Mario RPG straight up. It’s just a matter of how the LFF falls (a recurring trend with this format, in case you haven’t noticed!). Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars: Many people got into RPGs with Final Fantasy VII, but for me, it was Super Mario RPG. I love this game, and it’s still one of my favorites to this day. It’s got a great script and lots of fun. Plus, it’s short so it makes it replayable. I can hook up this game for a couple of days and beat it for old time’s sake. I was one of those people who was surprised when I found out Mario RPG wasn’t the favorite to beat Street Fighter II because who DIDN’T love Mario RPG if they played it? Plus, as much as I love Street Fighter, the original is practically obsolete. In a sense, Super Mario RPG is a perfect mixture of everything GameFAQs loves. It’s an RPG made by Square starring Mario on the Super Nintendo. That just sounds like a formula for instant win here. But anyway, after seeing DKC2 get swapped in here, I originally had RE2 advancing, but after some long deliberation, I switched to Mario RPG. I think it can handle whatever resistance DKC2 provides and still beat RE2 because I think it’s strong enough. Man, this write-up is way too long. TL;DR version: GoldenEye may be overrated, but still gets first. DKC2 LFFs Mario RPG, but not enough for RE2 to advance. Much love for three of the four games in this poll, by the way! Leonhart’s Vote: Probably the toughest decision yet, but…I’ll side with DKC2, another platformer! I didn’t realize I liked 2-D platformers so much! Leonhart’s Prediction: Donkey Kong Country 2 – 15.68% GoldenEye 007 – 32.11% Resident Evil 2 – 23.44% Super Mario RPG – 28.77% |
Ed Bellis’s Analysis Before this contest started, I’d have thought the placing in this match to be obvious. Now I have no idea. Donkey Kong Country 2. Quite possibly my favorite game of all time, and I refused to support it during the Nomination Rally because I figured it would be total fodder. Now, though, with both DK games making it to Round Two, who knows what’s gonna happen? SFF also seems to matter less this contest than in the past, so DKC2 could have a legitimate shot at placing. Goldeneye. I’m still surprised by how popular this game remains on the site, in large part because it’s been so thoroughly eclipsed by other first-person shooters. But hey, maybe nostalgia is more powerful than I would have thought. Anyway, Goldeneye probably takes the first place trophy here. Resident Evil 2. The second entry in the slightly-more-popular than Street Fighter series, RE2 was supposed to, in my bracket, benefit from SFF for uhhh two rounds. >_> No clue if that’s still gonna happen or not, but I’m willing to bet that regardless RE2 is gonna be pretty strong – it’s a well-liked game from a popular franchise, after all. Super Mario RPG. Mario’s first foray into the world of RPGs beat Street Fighter II in 2004 before losing to Chrono Trigger. Now, with another SNES title in the mix, can it pull off a second-place success? This match makes my brain hurt, so for the sake of ease I’m probably just going to stick with my bracket. Prediction: if DKC2 didn’t have watercolors for its match pic it would totally win right Donkey Kong Country 2 with 19.96% Goldeneye with 33.92% Resident Evil 2 with 24.00% Super Mario RPG with 22.12% Guest’s Analysis - greatone10 This is one of those matches that I love and despise at the same time. I don't know what Bacon was smoking when he put the best game of all time in DKC2, the second best game of all time in Super Mario RPG, and the third best game of all time in the same match. Oh wait, it was actually us that did that when we petitioned for Fallout's removal, but still, you don't make a match that results in my favorite's bracket not even having my third favorite game enter the second round. However, this is a match that has been debated since the beginning of the contest and rightfully so. While Goldeneye is almost guaranteed the first place slot, the second place slot is up for quite a bit of debate for many reasons. Most agree that Super Mario RPG is the stronger entrant and rightfully so as it is truly the best RPG ever made, but there a ton of x-factors that favor Resident Evil 2. The recent release of Resident Evil 5 is bringing many fans to series right now. Resident Evil 2 also stands as the only non-Nintendo option in the poll, and not only takes advantage of SFF, but the sore thumb factor as well. We also just saw Donkey Kong Country pull a board upset against Doom, which means that if DKC2 follows suit and shows some strength, it's probably going to steal more of that Nintendo and SNES fan base away from SMRPG. On the other hand, many of these points can be shot down as well. Many fans of the newer Resident Evils have not played the original PSX era games and may not care despite the fact they are there to get an RE5 game. While RE2 does have the Sore Thumb Factor, it may not be too much of one, as Goldeneye could steal away some of its action/shooter appeal. Also, SFF has seemingly been somewhat of a non-factor, as Metroid, DKC, and Super Mario Kart have all pulled upsets despite being put in major SFF situations. |
However,
I would contest that Metroid won because Contra was also SFFed, and is
weaksauce anyway because its only source of strength is the cheat code
named after it. Super Mario Kart won because Suck the Hedgesuck 3 ended
up losing all its support to both Nintendo options. DKC is really the
only one that cannot really be explained, but I would say that DKC is
actually a series of decent strength masked by the fact that no one
cares about Donkey Kong himself and the fact that no one is going to
vote Diddy Kong over Captain Falcon. Thus it beats Doom despite the
LttP factor. Hopefully this is true and DKC2 actually pulls the upset
over both SMRPG and RE2. Enough rambling. Time for the official prediction. As much I would love either SMRPG or DKC2 to advance, I feel RE2 has too many intangibles to ignore. Also, a RE2 win here could very well set the tone for both Resident Evil 1's match as well as Resident Evil 4's potential for pulling some major upsets. Official prediction: Goldeneye > RE2 Official vote: DKC2 (like there's a choice) What should happen: DKC2 > SMRPG (and that's the final match) Token percentages that I pulled out of my Sonic. DKC2: 17% SMRPG: 20% RE2: 24% Goldeneye: 37% Crew Consensus: Goldeneye > SMRPG is the majority (spoilers HM has SMRPG), but Moltar, Ed and the Guest are backing RE2 for second. |
Today's
match is a complete mess. You could argue any one of these games
advancing, or coming in first. It wasn't that way pre-contest, but
after DKC held up against LttP enough to advance, and with franchise
voting being so prevalent, you could make the argument for just about
any outcome here, including Goldeneye not even moving on. Of course, the odds of that happening are pretty low. More than likely, we'll have a decently close fight for first/second, then third not too far behind that, and fourth a good distance from the rest. Something alone the lines of Metroid/Mario Kart/Sonic, if I had to guess. The bigger question is what two games make it out of the Nintendo SFF mess alive. My opinion hasn't changed too much on this match. I still think Goldeneye is strong enough to avoid not placing in first here, even if I do have a bunch of reservations about its strength that most others don't have. It'll have a chance to show it's the real deal today. For second, it's either Mario RPG or RE2. Another series I'm skeptical about is Resident Evil. Show me any time that RE has impressed pre-RE4 -- it hasn't. I think people get the idea that because RE4 is strong, it means the other games must have gotten a boost, too. But I don't buy that. With Mario RPG, you've got 'Mario' and 'RPG' in the same title -- between franchise voting and RPG fans on this site, that might be enough to outright win today, but if not, that should at least secure second. Sure, RE2 has the 'standout factor' going for it, but it's out of its league in terms of strength. We've seen characters like Liquid take advantage of that before, though. It's tough, and I have no idea what will happen here, but Goldeneye > Mario RPG is my bet. . Goldeneye -- 33% Mario RPG -- 28% Resident Evil 2 -- 24% Donkey Kong Country 2 -- 15% Bracket: Goldeneye > Mario RPG Favorites: DKC2 > Mario RPG --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
Wow, HM's percentages are shockingly similar to mine! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
So what odds are you guys giving on GE not taking first? --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
GE not taking first is not much of an option for me. anything is possible though. --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png |
and uhhh DKC2 with 15% is kinda popular --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png |
tag --- 2008 Hickory Cross Country Becoming One |
Yeah, I'm not really expecting GE not to get first here, but anything's possible in this format. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Ngamer's Rebellious Writeup I'm extremely impressed with how well Secret of Mana was able to hold up in this one- really put a scare into MKII during those Euro-dominated hours and I'll bet it could have been neck and neck all day if MK hadn't nailed such an appealing pic. Looks like SoM will end up improving by about 8% versus its score on CT; guess that game was its perfect poison after all! As for my BOLD PREDICTION from last night, bam, I hit it right on the head! This is going to be the least popular match of the year by a full 3 thousand votes, which is frankly even more pathetic than the lowball estimate I pegged it for. Speaking of pathetic, what the junk is going on here, Sonic?! After throwing together some quick math, check out the result you'd get from setting Sonic 1 = Sonic 2: Street Fighter II - 49.94% Mortal Kombat II - 50.06% Nooooooooooooooo! Yeah, I wouldn't have bought into that result EVER, let alone only a couple months after SF4 sold (almost) a million overnight and is still going strong. Which means something wonky must have happened in both those matches, but I'm not even going to try to understand it... Let's just sit back and watch SF regain our respect while Sonic withers under Mario's gaze next round, then see both Sonic and MK reduced to ash beneath Zelda. All will once again be right with the world shortly! Moving on, here comes probably the best poll of the Contest so far! This is that rare kind of match that allows me to cut SB some slack on 4ways: Mario RPG would surely destroy RE2 straight up, but the later might be (just barely) independent enough to survive a Mario that's getting pulled in two directions, and if so we could be in for a heck of an entertaining next 24 hours. When the bracket first came out I had GE > MRPG in this one and called it a no brainer, but then Fallout was replaced with DKC2 and all of a sudden things got much more interesting. Another beloved SNES classic in the mix, Resident Evil being at probably its all time high water mark thanks to 5 still burning up both the sales charts and the FAQ listings... All of a sudden RE2 jumped up to become the trendy pick here, and I liked what I saw enough to also follow that trend myself. Now though- bah, got to pick against my bracket for the first time this year! Sure DKC impressed against Zelda, but #1 I think DKC2 (like Sonic 2) isn't going to pack quite as much punch as the original, #2 I think the name "Mario" cripples the DKC series about twice as hard as "Zelda", and #3 the more important trend there was Doom UTTERLY failing to capitalize on being the only non-Nintendo option in that poll. Sure Doom is a dated/dead series whereas RE is hot hot hot, but even doing 5% better than Doom probably isn't going to be enough to top Mario RPG in this situation. Prior to SMK's astounding performance I think I'd have still given RE2 the benefit of the doubt, but now we've seen what a boost having Mario dominating your match pic can give (also that title font below him looks great- nostalgia city, baby!), and when you add in how SMRPG is the only option here for Square voters, I think it's still got to be the favorite. Speaking of the match pic, ugh, what's with those horrible colors for DKC2? And as for Goldeneye... look out! "Unplayable" my left foot- GE multi is still a blast, and with a sweet (and again, pretty nostalgic) picture like that, expect GE to wreck havoc on this poll! SMRPG will probably hang around in the early going while that older "whoa, my first RPG!" crowd is still up, but I'm expecting Bond to unleash a whale of a day vote one the sun rises and that slightly younger "whoa, my first 4 player multi!" crowd starts hitting the polls. Onwards to victory, GE! GoldenEye 007 - 35.36% Super Mario RPG - 25.30% Resident Evil 2 - 24.29% Donkey Kong Country 2 - 15.05% I'm lovin' it. |
Hohoho, 36% at the freeze and no where to go but up. MGS1 is shaking in its boots right now! --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
Hohoho, 36% at the freeze and no where to go but up. ...Are you sure about that? Whoo, full points for the first time in a while! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Yeah, it'll head on up. Like I said in my writeup, this is going to be a very nice Day Vote, just watch. --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
Can't beat Mario RPG's day vote though! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Do you all miss me yet? --- Martin Brodeur: 557 career wins -- Patrick Roy: 551 career wins Best Game Ever 2009 - See profile for printable brackets |
Nay,
Mario's a Square RPG- little wonder it's looking so well here in the
night. Come day time GE will turn on the afterburners. --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
Then
you obviously forget Mario RPG's trends! Once Europe is past, it has
nowhere to go but up because no one in Europe will vote for it! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Surprised to see so much support for RE2 after banking on SFF/LFF has failed time and time again in this contest. ... that's not to say I won't be banking on SFF in the future... just sayin. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
Well, at least I will tie the Goldeneye prediction at this rate. I just wish DKC2 could end up above 10% though. --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |
I'm
kinda surprised how many people stuck with RE2 here.. I had it in my
bracket too, but once we saw that fanbase overlaps had next to no
effect on this contest I abandoned it quickly. if this continues to hold, it's going to lead to a lot of interesting matchups - Brawl and Galaxy beating COD4, FFX/Melee/Wind Waker/???, Mario 3/World/FF4, LTTP/LA/FF6/random Nintendo game... this could be a really strange last few weeks. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
Eh, I switched to SMRPG > RE2 in the oracle, but I figured it still had a shot so I supported it here. --- Moltar Status: you can't hide forever Match 13 - Bracket: GoldenEye > RE2 - Vote: GE (36/48) |
Brawl and Galaxy beating COD4 My bracket lives ! --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
Mortal Kombat II............30.1% 32441 Secret of Mana............26.08% 28106 Shining Force II...............6.49% 6998 Sonic the Hedgehog 2...37.32% 40222 TOTAL VOTES.........................107767 Matches Completely Correct - 6 Matches Partially Correct - 6 Matches Completely Wrong - 0 What Happened - Sonic and MK2 advance like more expected, however Sonic 2 ends up doing so in a very unimpressive fashion. Meanwhile, Secret of Mana actually does very well here, showing that it does have some legitimate strength (or maybe it just emphasizes the group's weakness). Why it Happened - After Sonic 3's egg, Sonic 2 being weaker than expected isn't a big surprise. Still, after Sonic 1 beat SF2, people expected more. MK2 did as expected in relation to the group, and Secret of Mana did well because it still has that dedicated fanbase behind it after all these years. You know, the one that pushed it to 20% against Chrono Trigger. What Will Happen - FF6/LA/Sonic 2/MK2, LA is going to have an easy time here. Crew Prediction Challenge - Everyone except Leon and Guest get points. Guest - 7 HM - 7 Moltar - 6 Tran - 6 Ed - 5 Lopen - 4 Leon - 3 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Leon gets the point for Sonic, Moltar and Tran get points for MK2, Kleenex gets the point for SoM, and Moltar gets the point for Shining Force 2 Moltar - 10 Lopen - 9 Tran - 8 HM - 7 Ed - 6 Guest (Luster, Zylo (3), HaRR, Kleenex) - 6 Leon - 6 --- Moltar Status: you can't hide forever Match 13 - Bracket: GoldenEye > RE2 - Vote: GE (36/48) |
Tag --- The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger (AKA FastFalcon) followed. http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=75 |
I'm
not thinking this will hold, I'm thinking we just haven't had strong
enough games to capitalize on SFF splits, or even enough SFF splits.
Though I guess the argument was that RE2 was strong enough-- but I
certainly didn't see it above the level of stuff like Doom and Contra,
relatively. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
Look at that, GE still consistently besting MRPG in the day! Boy, must Leon's face be red! --- The Guru ROCKS, son! http://thengamer.com/guru/ (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com aren't awful either) |
huh?
Mario RPG's been increasing all day in percentage while Goldeneye's
been constant. he's totally right, it's been going nowhere but up. --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png |
Division 4: Round 1 - Match 14 – Final Fantasy VII vs. Mario Kart 64 vs. Star Fox 64 vs. Suikoden Moltar’s Analysis FFVII 2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Suikoden II Won in Round 2 against Xenogears Won in Round 3 against Metal Gear Solid Won in Round 4 against Ocarina of Time Won in Round 5 against Super Smash Bros. Melee Won in Round 6 against Chrono Trigger hey it’s the winner of the first Games Contest and strongest game on the site sup Mario Kart 64 2004 Results: N/A There isn’t one poll with Mario Kart 64 on GameFAQs WHAT?! Star Fox 64 2004 Results: N/A Man, even SF64 is only mentioned in one poll before this. Suikoden 2004 Results: N/A Hey, FFVII beat Suikoden II, now it’s the first game’s time to job. *We now interrupt this regularly scheduled analysis with something a little more…crazy.* Previously, a Midgar ship attacked Link and his crew. As Link and Zora tried to defend the ship, Link saw the captain of the ship. It was Terra, Captain of Squad 6. The ship then retreated, leaving Link and crew unharmed. A world united, Becomes divided, War starts without fail Now witness the tale Intermission… 4: Strike First *At Midgar Tower, located in the heart of Midgar* Cloud: Are you saying that Squads 1 and 6 have returned? Tifa: Yes, they just reported back from their missions. Cloud: And were they successful? Tifa: Squad 1 encountered Mario, Luigi and Peach, and Squad 6 encountered Link and his crew. Minor battles broke out, but that’s about it. Our opponents seemed to be confused though. *Another figure enters* Squall: Confused? Didn’t that anonymous tip we received say that the characters of Nintendo were planning an attack on Cuadrado? Tifa: Yes Captain Leonhart, but the Squads reported that their opposition seemed clueless about it. Cloud: Interesting…either they were playing dumb, or we may have gotten a bad- Yuffie: Captain Strife! Captain Leonhart! A ship is approaching the docks! It’s the King of Red Lions! Squall: What?! Cloud: This is bad. A fight may break out over a misunderstanding. Quick Tifa, order Lieutenants Valentine and Heartilly to get to the docks! Tifa: Right! Cloud: Yuffie, who at the docks told you this? Yuffie: Um…it was the Captain of Squad 9, Zidane Tribal. Cloud: ….oh no. *Meanwhile, at the hospital in the Hidden Mushroom Village* Peach: Yoshi, are you alright? Yoshi: Yoshi Yoshi! (Yeah, it’s just a couple small cuts and bruises. I’m ready to go!) Luigi: So bro, what should we do about this spicy meatball? Mario: …We’re going to have to go to Midgar and find out what’s going on. ~*To Be Continued*~ FF7 first Suikoden last. Let’s get that obvious stuff out of the way. The match here is for second between the two N64 games. There hasn’t been much talk on this match. Most people just sided with MK64 and that’s it. It’s not like there’s much past data on these two either. I think it’s safe to say the Mario Kart series is stronger than Star Fox, and I also think both MK64 and SF64 are the strongest games in their series. Star Fox strikes me as a series with a tight-knit group behind it (sup furries). That still won’t overcome the difference in strength between the two games. Also Mario Kart has Mario in the title, and looking at the other results of the Contest, that means you’re bound to do well. Moltar’s Bracket Says: FF7 > MK64 Moltar’s Prediction is: FF7: 55% - MK64: 23% - SF64: 15% - Suikoden: 7% Heroic Mario’s Analysis Who else is ready for the Best Game Ever to beat a bunch of scrubs |
Today's
match is all about how high FFVII can go -- does it 50%, 55%, 60%?
That's where the real fun is in this match. Sure, there's a 'debated'
fight for second, but it's a SFF fight between two low tier N64 games.
Not to mention we just saw Super Mario Kart beat Super Metroid, and
cleanly beat Sonic 3. I don't think something like Star Fox 64 is going
to be able to stand up to what is probably the strongest Mario Kart
game -- the Mario name alone should secure a win there. Plus, it's Star
Fox, why would anyone expect anything mindblowing there. But what will be mindblowing is FFVII wrecking faces! We've been in the old school divisions for so long that people have gotten caught up in the Zeldas and Marios blowing out the SimCity's of the world that there's some doubters about FFVII standing to Ocarina of Suck. It might be impressive blowing out turbofodder, but against games with some real strength that people care about watch out 60/40 in the final ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on Please get the guys who made cartridge games a cigarette and a blindfold Final Fantasy VII -- 60% Mario Kart 64 -- 20% Star Fox 64 -- 15 Suikoden -- 5% Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > Mario Kart 64 Favorites: the greatest game ever made isn't coming to a theater near you Lopen’s Analysis Now I love me a game of Sudoku from time to time, but let's just start this write-up by ignoring it. Done? Good. Now I'll just start off by saying my bracket says “Star Fox 64” in second place here. I was all like “WHOA GAWD BARREL ROLL JOKE VOTEZ.” And, you know, people like the game. But then Super Mario Kart comes up to Sonic 3 and says “you're too slow!” when Sonic politely requested that Mario Kart come on and step it up. And now I'm thinkin hey Star Fox 64 doesn't have a chance here. I mean, I always thought in general Star Fox 64 was less popular, and then we've got confirmation that Mario Kart is a force, when I thought it was under appreciated on the site. Star Fox 64 probably makes this closer than it has any right to because of the fad stuff I already mentioned, reverse Nintendo SFF as a result... but yeah. Final Fantasy VII will be interesting to watch in this match. Does it still have the oomph to dominate this bracket? I'm thinking we get some doomsaying committees today. I also don't think they'll be entirely justified... though I AM calling for FFVII to lose this contest ho ho ho... Lopen's prediction: Final Fantasy 7 – 55.55% Mario Kart 64 – 20.10% Star Fox 64 – 19.13% Sudoku – 5.22% Transience’s Analysis For a match that had a lot of question marks going in, today's match was surprisingly predictable. Tonight's match is our first glimpse of a true powerhouse in contest form. FF7 always brings big vote totals and there will be rampant whining about the evil empire that is FF7 on GameFAQs. This match is really about FF7 more than it is Star Fox or Mario Kart. Nobody really cares who advances there, but the real question is how high FF7 can go. I'm of the opinion that FF7 is not a good game for huge percentages thanks to its status as an uber-favourite and a game that's super duper overrated. Nobody wants to cheer for the game that's a lock to win. FF7 seems to attract more venom than any other game for whatever stupid reason, so I'm not sure if it can really get the huge percentages that Mario 3 or LTTP could put up. In a matchup of fodder, I'd expect those games to actually outdo FF7 even if FF7 would humble them one-on-one. As for second place, it's tough to go against Mario Kart after the huge performance its older brother put up last week. Star Fox 64 has some fad potential which would make it a pretty independent pick -- which is important against a juggernaut like FF7 -- but Mario Kart 64 is flat-out more popular. |
One
last note -- when FF7 is down around 40% at the start of the poll,
don't overreact. FF7 is notorious for super slow starts thanks to the
board anti-voting it. It happens in every match it's ever been in.
Don't pay it any mind unless you want to troll the game for some dumb
reason. also Heroic Mario's writeup was supposed to induce vomiting and aneurysms FF7's first match faces two n64 games should have no trouble transience's prediction: Final Fantasy VII - 54% Mario Kart 64 - 24% Star Fox 64 - 16% Suikoden - 6% Leon’s Analysis Final Fantasy VII: It’s time for the warm-up bout of the reigning champion! Will it come out of the gate rusty after five years? Probably not! Twelve years later, Final Fantasy VII seems as strong as ever. It needs to have a good showing because Ocarina of Time is going to be gunning to outdo it when its match comes along. It’ll be interesting to see what it can do here, since this will be the first multiway poll it’s been involved in that doesn’t involve other Final Fantasies or Square games. How much does this site REALLY love FFVII? We’re about to find out! Mario Kart 64: I’ve been playing Mario Kart 64 for about 13 years now, and the game just never seems to get old. I’ve probably spent more time with this game than any other, except for maybe a couple of others. When I was a kid, this was one of the ultimate multiplayer games. I don’t know how people can go back to Super Mario Kart with any regularity after playing this one, but that’s a can of worms to be opened another time! I thought everyone played and loved Mario Kart, but maybe GameFAQs is the exception to the rule! In any event, it will be interesting to see where the Nintendo 64 fans side here: With a side Mario series or with the biggest game in the Star Fox series? I’m fairly confident that Mario Kart gets the better end of the deal here. Star Fox 64: Since probably at least one other Crew member is going to bust out Star Fox 64 quotes here, I’ll hold off! Needless to say, Star Fox 64 was another one of the N64’s gems. It’s two of my favorite N64 games going at it here, and only one of them is going to advance (What, you think Suikoden’s got a shot? Psh). Seems kinda unfair that they got stuck together like this, but what can you do? Fox has proven he’s susceptible to SFF in the past, and I don’t think Star Fox 64 will be much different. Though the game sold millions on the N64, the Star Fox fanbase seems kinda niche. It will be interesting to see how it holds up though. Suikoden: If you want to know how Suikoden’s going to do, go see what Suikoden II (the more popular game in the series) did against Final Fantasy VII in the first Games Contest. More of the same here! Leonhart’s Vote: Another really tough decision, but I’m voting Mario Kart 64, probably one of my most played games ever. Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII – 54.57% Mario Kart 64 – 18.81% Star Fox 64 – 15.12% Suikoden – 11.50% Ed Bellis’s Analysis After much hype (well, not really), the previous winner of the game battle finally takes the stand. Final Fantasy VII. The site’s most popular game as of 2004, FF7 has a long way to go before reclaiming the crown. We’ll be watching (i.e., doing our “turbo-nerding”) to see how FF7 performs, and if it breaks a sufficient number to challenge the other contender for best game ever, Ocarina of Time. Mario Kart 64. With Super Mario Kart outperforming many people’s expectations, it stands to reason that the Nintendo 64 entry in the “kart racing subgenre” would be strong as well. The question is, with SFF virtually diminished altogether in this contest, is it flat-out stronger than… |
Star Fox 64.
One of the first games for the N64 and a wildcard in this matchup…
well, even more of a wildcard than MK64, at least. I’d venture to call
it the “wildest of cards.” But enough about cards, let’s talk about
Star Fox – generally speaking, when it comes to Nintendo it’s a good
idea to always bet on Zelda or Mario over everything else, but Star Fox
64 has FAD POWER behind it… should be close. Suikoden. ‘suck’oden lol My bracket has FF7 > Star Fox, and for the sake of my sanity I’ll be sticking with that. For the sake of my Oracle, however, I’ll make it close. Should be a good match – or a total disappointment. Whichever! Prediction: who keeps letting in fodderific rpgs Final Fantasy VII with 51.05% Mario Kart 64 with 21.98% Star Fox 64 with 22.44% Suikoden with 4.53% Crew Consensus: FF7 > MK64 is unanim…wait Ed has SF64 in second. |
awww yeah SUCK IT ANALYSIS CREW --- This was KING BELLIS LOL ed status: Maybe the chef was Darkseid. You don't mess with Darkseid. -MoogleKupo141 |
