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Best Game Ever 2 Contest Analysis Crew
| Master Moltar (tc) | Posted 4/9/2009 7:42:21 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #151 |
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Four NES classix (or “classix” in the case of Metroid). I have Contra
taking second – Metroid is just gonna get curbstomped by the presence
of Zelda 1, and I’d debate Contra being stronger even without SFF. Not sure how this one’s even debatable, really. Prediction: YOU JUST JUMPED INTO A SWORD, YOU RETARD Dragon Warrior III with 7.56% Contra with 20.97% Metroid with 11.45% The Legend of Zelda with 60.02% Guest’s Analysis - Zylo the wolf A new game contest. So far my bracket looks like crap, and I got no hope that I will get this match correct either. Anyway I love this fourpack not only because it's debatable, but all of them are in my top 10 Nes game list. I've beat them all, without using the Konami Code in Contra. But enough bragging. If this was a Japanese site, Dragon Warrior III would win without a doubt, but DWIII is at best a cult game and will be lucky to get 10% of the votes. Legend of Zelda will no doubt win this match with ease, so the question is if it's Contra or Metorid that advances to be SMB and LoZ fodder in round 2. Personally I don't think Metroid will suffer much from SFF for Legend of Zelda, because the game got a lot more in common with Contra than Zelda. What we have seen from the previous matches in this division, at least of the voters have never touched any game on the Nes except the Nintendo classics, and Contra is from Konami. I made the mistake to think that Contra at least had a chance, but no Metroid will win. If a great game like Punch Out can lose to Donkey ****ing Kong than Contra will lose to a game that actually is good, but will get the votes just because it's from a popular votes. I just hope that DWIII losses with some respect. But as I said before no matter what two of the best Nes games gets to round 2 in this match. Dragon Warrior III: 7% Contra: 15% Metroid: 20% The Legend of Zelda: 58% Crew Consensus: Zelda > Contra is the majority. Zelda will SFF Metroid enough to allow Contra to win. Our Guest thinks otherwise though. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/9/2009 7:49:46 PM | message detail | filter | #152 |
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BACON YOU ARE MESSING UP THE ALPHABETICAL ORDER AHHHHHH That's because Civilization was there originally before people realized that DWIII and Civilization were both in the wrong eras! I wonder what Bacon would've done if only one was in the wrong era! Drop one game and replace it with another? Hmmm...The guest is the only dissenter among the group. Where have I heard that before! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 7:50:21 PM | message detail | filter | #153 |
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I see some Metroid overestimation! --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/9/2009 7:50:24 PM | message detail | filter | #154 |
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Metroid's got a fine shot here. I'm not putting any faith in games that are dead today. Contra is pretty dead. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/9/2009 7:51:52 PM | message detail | filter | #155 |
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Like I said, Metroid probably owns Contra straight up, and there won't
be much percentage left to go around once Zelda gets done gobbling it
up. It's got a chance. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 7:54:32 PM | message detail | filter | #156 |
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Metroid would probably win on name alone, but it wouldn't be a Pac-Man
level disaster. Hard to see Metroid doing anything with Zelda in the
poll, but I guess we'll see. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/9/2009 7:55:27 PM | message detail | filter | #157 |
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Eh, I think Metroid wins fairly easily, probably with close to 60% or
so. It's not like Zelda's not gonna do a number on Contra, too. It'll
just be less than what Metroid gets. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 7:57:19 PM | message detail | filter | #158 |
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Zelda's going hurt Contra, but that's less because of a 'shared'
fanbase and more because Zelda is just that much stronger than anything
here. Hard to see any Nintendo fans going for Metroid when Zelda's
right there -- the better game from the much bigger franchise. But if
Zelda kills this poll hard enough, it might be closer than what I
figure it'll be. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:02:34 PM | message detail | filter | #159 |
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Basically what you've got is some game that hasn't been released in the US Actually- (correct me if I'm wrong not that I give a crap-- suck it Dragon Warrior Fanboyz) I will end you Lopen --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:04:40 PM | message detail | filter | #160 |
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And you guys are overestimating Contra. If it wins it's not due to any
strength on it's own part, get this 20% stuff out of here. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:07:02 PM | message detail | filter | #161 |
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Who knows. All of these games suck! --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/9/2009 8:08:27 PM | message detail | filter | #162 |
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20% is indeed within the realm of possibility. It got 30% on Final Fantasy back in the day, and Final Fantasy wasn't too
far behind Zelda against Mario 3. Assuming Zelda hits 60%, that would
be a 75/25 result, which wouldn't be shocking or anything. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:09:27 PM | message detail | filter | #163 |
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Eh, pretty much every PotD on this site has Contra stinking up the place. Forgive me for being skeptical. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:11:08 PM | message detail | filter | #164 |
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Yes, it got 30% on FF, but it also got 61% on Phantasy Star. I could argue DWIII being in striking distance based on that alone. I won't, but I could! --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 8:11:19 PM | message detail | filter | #165 |
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Those polls probably would have done terrible in 2004 as well. I can definitely see Contra getting 20% if it barely budged from where it was in 2004, and also if Zelda doesn't kill it too much. I'd be shocked if it wasn't in the high teens at least. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB > NG - Points: 6/8 Vote: SMB |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:11:28 PM | message detail | filter | #166 |
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| Lopen | Posted 4/9/2009 8:11:34 PM | message detail | filter | #167 |
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Hey there Dragon Warrior 3 fanboy. Down wit Edrick and slimes, word. Surprised Contra's getting so much support here. I'm not quite as confident as I was when I wrote that write up cause Pac-Man vs Metroid and Pac-Man vs Mega Man 2 kinda has me thinking Pac-Man isn't a total scrub in this thing. But yeah, Contra's got fans, it's good that we all see that. It's good that most of us see that, anyway. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:11:47 PM | message detail | filter | #168 |
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You're not gonna find a poll where the original Metroid does much
better, honestly. 30% on Final Fantasy, which would rock Metroid hard,
is good enough. I mean, 20% here doesn't mean Contra's strong at all. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:13:27 PM | message detail | filter | #169 |
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You also have to factor in the 5 years since the first contest. I
seriously doubt Contra managed to keep its full strength since then,
while Metroid easily has (considering it runs on franchise votes
anyway!). I'm just not seeing 20% is all. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:13:42 PM | message detail | filter | #170 |
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Pac-Man's still a scrub, it just happens that MM2 is, too ! --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 4/9/2009 8:13:43 PM | message detail | filter | #171 |
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Yes, it got 30% on FF, but it also got 61% on Phantasy Star. I could argue DWIII being in striking distance based on that alone. For matches like this though, it's better to go by floors as a guideline, not blowout power. Metroid could get like 90% on Phantasy Star and it wouldn't matter if everyone abandoned it when a relevant game came along. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 8:15:03 PM | message detail | filter | #172 |
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not to also mention that The Legend of Zelda definitely won't be as strong as it was in 2004 either. I think 20% is a fine guess. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB > NG - Points: 6/8 Vote: SMB |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:15:17 PM | message detail | filter | #173 |
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No reason to think Contra loses fans while Metroid keeps the same ones.
Yeah, it has more franchise vote power, but that shouldn't make much
difference when it's sharing a poll with Zelda, at least I don't think
it does. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:18:11 PM | message detail | filter | #174 |
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For matches like this though, it's better to go by floors as a guideline, not blowout power. Then why is everyone taking Metroid to be blown out in the same proportion as if it were 1 on 1? http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3304&num=4 Metroid has to have some staying power, at least. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:18:51 PM | message detail | filter | #175 |
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Original Metroid and Samus these two are not the same thing --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:21:03 PM | message detail | filter | #176 |
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Original Metroid and Samus these two are not the same thing. Hey, when Samus' mug is taking up the entire picture... I'm just seeing everyone here taking Metroid to roll over and die completely while Contra powers on with the same fanbase it had 5 years ago. Possible, I suppose, but I find that one of the more unlikely outcomes. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:22:02 PM | message detail | filter | #177 |
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But I will say that I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Metroid
did win. Just because Metroid at least has a name to it, even if it's
not the strongest name out there. That matters more than anything else
in this division, so it has a shot. But I think Contra's the safest,
and most likely, choice, especially when you've got Zelda hanging
around in the poll. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 8:22:23 PM | message detail | filter | #178 |
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Well, 20% is far from "same fanbase 5 years ago." Contra is expected to get 28% on Zelda 5 years ago. Adding an SFF'd Metroid and Dragon Warrior may bring that down to the mid 20's. 20% is already Contra falling off you'd think. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB > NG - Points: 6/8 Vote: SMB |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/9/2009 8:24:08 PM | message detail | filter | #179 |
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I took Metroid without much thought about it. I mean I literally didn't think about it! We'll see how it goes! --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:24:10 PM | message detail | filter | #180 |
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Mid 20s? I didn't do the math but that seems off. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1453 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2806 Contra is at least a bit weaker. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/9/2009 8:26:36 PM | message detail | filter | #181 |
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I'm just seeing everyone here taking Metroid to roll over and die
completely while Contra powers on with the same fanbase it had 5 years
ago. Hey, I've got Contra beating Metroid by less than a percent, mind you! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 8:27:01 PM | message detail | filter | #182 |
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5/6% seems relatively constant to me. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB > NG - Points: 6/8 Vote: SMB |
| Lopen | Posted 4/9/2009 8:28:12 PM | message detail | filter | #183 |
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You know, I just realize I'm remembering the numbers Metroid got
against SMB3 in 2004 and I thought it was LoZ vs Metroid. I blame Super
Metroid vs LttP! I suddenly feel a bit less confident in this one-- but Super Metroid vs LttP is still pretty relevant... considering Super Metroid was actually a very popular SNES game. LttP is stronger than LoZ obviously, but I'd like to think the SNES games relative strengths are closer than the NES fight, so it still isn't likely to do much better. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:30:10 PM | message detail | filter | #184 |
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Oh, if this were 1 on 1 and the questions was "Who does better against
LoZ, Contra or Metroid?" I would take Contra in a heartbeat. I just think things are different in 4-ways. Metroid should hold up better while Contra does a little worse than it would 1 on 1 (I assume). Add in the age factor and we have a match. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:31:27 PM | message detail | filter | #185 |
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5/6% seems relatively constant to me. The main poll got 14000 more votes while Contra lost 400. Can't really swing that any way but one. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:32:17 PM | message detail | filter | #186 |
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Ha. I think that's backwards -- Metroid does better 1v1, worse in
four-ways! Age factor doesn't make much difference since they're both
the same old games that no one really cares for, just one has had
bigger games recently. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/9/2009 8:32:23 PM | message detail | filter | #187 |
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Mario 3 had some pretty bad matches in 2004, really. that 40% FF1 put
up still blows my mind. Metroid should have gotten Donkey Kong'd, but
didn't. Zelda 1 did way better than I would have expected for the clear
#1 NES game - you'd think it would have SFFed it or something. 'tis why
I'm not too confident in Mario 1 beating Zelda 1. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:34:27 PM | message detail | filter | #188 |
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Ha. I think that's backwards -- Metroid does better 1v1, worse in four-ways! Any reason why you would think this? Samus (yes I know different, but we have nothing else to go on) has always held up very well in 4-ways. Age factor doesn't make much difference since they're both the same old games that no one really cares for, just one has had bigger games recently. Metroid isn't going to be any different from 2004, I think. No one voted for it the first time because they played it and liked it, so why would it matter now? --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| Lopen | Posted 4/9/2009 8:34:50 PM | message detail | filter | #189 |
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Eh, I'm thinking Metroid probably does worse than it would 1v1. I think
in a match with Metroid vs Zelda Metroid would get a decent amount of
"well at least it's not Zelda" votes. In a four way, I think those votes are far more likely to go to Contra, since Contra was actually a casually popular game back then. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/9/2009 8:37:24 PM | message detail | filter | #190 |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2923 worse? I dun think so. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 4/9/2009 8:38:10 PM | message detail | filter | #191 |
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Will you people stop posting Samus polls. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:38:12 PM | message detail | filter | #192 |
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Yeah, the Samus comparisons don't do anything for me. She's like a less
extreme Mega Man -- stronger than her strongest game by a good bit.
Metroid is certainly the weakest game from the series that would ever
make it into these contests. That's all namesake there, and I think it
matters a lot less in Metroid's case when there's three other options
to choose from. Contra isn't strong at all, let's just get that out of
the way, but Metroid isn't either. It'd beat Contra 1v1 without
trouble, but SFF'd? That's something else. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:38:51 PM | message detail | filter | #193 |
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Eh, I'm thinking Metroid probably does worse than it would 1v1. I
think in a match with Metroid vs Zelda Metroid would get a decent
amount of "well at least it's not Zelda" votes. LoZ vs. Metroid, series contest. Unless you think Metroid is THAT weak... In a four way, I think those votes are far more likely to go to Contra, since Contra was actually a casually popular game back then. Back then. I don't think it really matters now beyond name recognition votes, and whatever you say I think Zelda eats those up like a fat kid eats...I don't know...twinkies. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:40:30 PM | message detail | filter | #194 |
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Considering Samus takes up 90% of Metroid's match pic, I don't see what the problem here is! That was only half-kidding. The match pic really does hurt Contra's chances, simply because of the general apathy surrounding this entire division. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| Lopen | Posted 4/9/2009 8:41:08 PM | message detail | filter | #195 |
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That's exactly my point. Zelda eats name recognition votes like candy, which is really the only
reason Metroid has any strength whatsoever. Contra gets by from the
votes from people who actually know the games in the poll. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:41:58 PM | message detail | filter | #196 |
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Match pic doesn't make much difference. It certainly can when it's a huge advantage, or it sticks out like a sore thumb, but it doesn't in either case here. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:43:35 PM | message detail | filter | #197 |
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That's exactly my point. Zelda eats name recognition votes like
candy, which is really the only reason Metroid has any strength
whatsoever. Contra gets by from the votes from people who actually know
the games in the poll. I'll give you this. I do think we have a difference of opinion on how many people actually know and care about Contra, though. Match pic doesn't make much difference. It certainly can when it's a huge advantage, or it sticks out like a sore thumb, but it doesn't in either case here. It's Akira Toriyama vs. a cluster**** vs. HEY SAMUS vs. HEY ZELDA Certainly not any huge, but if the match ends up close I say the pic is to blame. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:44:10 PM | message detail | filter | #198 |
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More like who cares who cares who cares hey Zelda --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 8:44:54 PM | message detail | filter | #199 |
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More like who cares who cares who cares hey Zelda Well then let's just give Zelda 100% of the vote and call it a day then --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 8:45:41 PM | message detail | filter | #200 |
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I'd be down with this! I'd also be down with giving Zelda 1/SMB1 an
automatic spot in the quarterfinals and skipping the rest of this
division! --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
