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Character Battle VII Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2
| Smurf Alt | Posted 10/2/2008 5:04:10 PM | message detail | #101 |
| I'd tell you to enjoy your time at the bottom but there's no rush. ^_~ |
| Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 5:11:11 PM | message detail | #102 |
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I make a career out of allowing the field a head start, Smurfo. Every year. Makes em think they have a chance. ^_~ --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 10:02:45 PM | message detail | #103 |
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Division 4: Round 1 - Match 16 – Arthas vs. Ike vs. Pikachu vs. Spy Moltar’s Analysis Arthas Game/Series Known From: Warcraft 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1 vs. Mega Man, KOS-MOS and Diablo Arthas returns, with no other Blizzard characters in his way. Ike Game/Series Known From: Fire Emblem 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1 vs. Duke, Gordon and Guybrush Brawl Character #15, he fights for his friends and shows no sympathy! Pikachu Game/Series Known From: Pokemon 2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1vs. Tidus, Isaac and Serge 2nd Place in Round 2 vs. Leon, Vivi and Tidus 1st Place in Round 3 vs. Dante, Leon and Amaterasu 4th Place in Round 4 vs. Master Chief, Dante and Luigi Brawl Character #16, the little rodent is back Spy Game/Series Known From: Team Fortress 2007 Results: N/A The popular PC game gets in two characters. Here’s the first! After watching Pikachu get to Round 4 last year (how in the hell gamefaqs augh), there’s no doubt he loses this match unless everyone hates him again. Yeah, he has to deal with Ike, but we’ve seen Pikachu beat Tidus, Vivi, a Dante-weakened Leon, a Leon-weakened Dante, and even performed well with Luigi in a poll. I just don’t see how Ike of all characters holds him back SFF-wise. Not only does Pika have the whole Smash series to draw support from, while Ike only has Brawl, but Pika also has Pokemon, and before you even bring up Lucario, remember when Pikachu was introduced in the series and his role in it. As for second, Ike is a good pick. He and Pika have BRAWLFEAR to boost them, so I don’t think Ike will be losing to Duke Nukem or Gordon Freeman again. But I’m not picking Ike, I’m picking one of the surprise performers of 2007, Arthas. I honestly didn’t expect much from him last year, and I figured all he would do is hurt Diablo enough to allow KOS-MOS into Round 2. Well, it turns out Arthas actually got some support and beat Diablo. The two still killed each other, allowing KOS-MOS to advance, but that performance stuck with me. Yeah, KOS-MOS looked like crap this year, but Arthas has Warcraft and he’s in a WoW-expansion that’s being heavily promoted. This is his time. So if Arthas can get a lot of Diablo’s support (I don’t see why he couldn’t, because Blizzard fanboys flock to Blizzard games like HM and Tran flock to those dirty Zack Fair websites), he’s got second place easy. Ike will be hurt enough by Pikachu’s presence (plus the guy couldn’t beat Duke and Gordon and I doubt Brawl will boost him too much) and I don’t see Spy doing any major damage. Ugh, I feel dirty putting support behind Blizzard for once. I swear if it lets me down this time then I will RAGE. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Pikachu > Arthas Moltar’s Prediction is: Pikachu: 36% - Arthas: 26% - Ike: 24% - Spy: 14% Heroic Mario’s Analysis Man, it seems like Brawl has the entire roster in this thing. This match bothered me a bit back during the bracket period, because I couldn't decide on Ike or Arthas. After seeing the "effects" of Brawl from other characters in this contest I think sticking with Arthas was the right choice here. Ike did well enough for himself last year, and he should do better with Brawl considering it's his first real game to most of the site and he's not just an announcement anymore. But with Pikachu hanging around the poll some of that support -- be it Brawl or Nintendo -- is going to disappear. Ike probably won't be hurt too much, but I think it'll be enough to let Arthas cruise to a win. Of all the Blizzard characters not named Diablo, Arthas is probably the one to be worth something. He seems to be all over Warcraft and has a cool enough design to get votes outside of the hardcore Blizzard base. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 10:03:06 PM | message detail | #104 |
| I can't remember whether or not he managed to beat
Diablo last year, but they were more or less even. He would have
advanced past KOS-MOS had Diablo not been there, probably pretty easy
at that. With Nintendo characters not dominating the contest like some
figured, along with some Nintendo SFF, and Arthas being unique here I
think he'll advance on pretty easily. Pikachu shouldn't have any
problems taking first in this one even with Ike after the way he
cruised past Tidus last year -- who would take care of this group no
problem. Prediction: Pikachu - 31% ; Arthas - 29% ; Ike - 23% ; Spy - 17% Bracket: Pikachu > Arthas Vote: Arthas Yoblazer’s Analysis For being one of the most debated matches of the first round, this thing, for whatever reason, ain't very fun to write about. But I'll write about it, anyway. This is because my loyalty is to you, the reader, not those entrenched Washington bureaucrats and I guarantee that ok even I won't be able to pad this thing; let's just roll and end the pain. We have Pikachu (Pokemon, Smash), Ike (Fire Emblem, Brawl), Arthas (Warcraft 3, WoW: Wrath of the Lich King), and Spy (Team Fortress 2, Just For Men Suit Warehouse). Who wins? Wish I knew! But hey, lemme give you my best prediction just in case. I think Pikachu will win this match, but given all the craziness we've seen with Nintendo characters so far, I can't even say that with a great degree of certainty. However, his 2007 performance, where he not only took advantage of fanbase splits when the need arose, but also demonstrated some impressive legitimate strength, warrants confidence. Unlike some people (feel the aura my ass) Pikachu is a Pokemon that can actually draw some ****ing votes from the fanbase, and he's been one of Nintendo's most visible faces for years and years. I think he'll need these factors tonight, because he's up against someone who I feel will challenge him well for the Smash support. That challenger is Ike, a Fire Emblem star and one of the new entrants in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Nintendo's tumultuous fighting juggernaut. Now, before singing Ike's praises, I must first mention that the new Brawl guys we've seen so far (Wario, Lucario, Meta Knight, and Diddy) have performed respectably only once, bombing hard three times. Luckily for Ike, that lone respectable performance came from one of only the few Brawlers more popular among the fanbase than he is. Apart from Snake and Meta Knight, no one has been embraced more warmly by the Brawl community than Ike (hell yes, I'm calling him more popular than Sonic among this fanbase). I think it will help him leech Smash support from Pikachu. This, coupled with his surprisingly decent performance from last year, should have Ike doing well. I do not, however, think it will be enough for him to advance. Enter: Arthas Menethil, star of the Warcraft series and a man who won my heart last year. As soon as Arthas defeated Diablo (the only Blizzard character we thought would ever have a lick of strength), I told myself I'd seriously consider taking him if the opportunity arose. Well, it arose alright, and I'm going with Arthas. Not much needs to be said here. He beat the most recognizable name and character from his own company (please don't say there was no SFF there please don't please don't please don't). This year, the tables are turned. There's no SFF to hurt Arthas, but there's some mighty fine Nintendo SFF to help him. He's also a beneficiary of Wrath of the Lich King hype. You know the new WoW patch coming out that's being promoted all over the Internet? Yeah, that's Arthas. He's the Lich King, himself. You know that insanely badass dude holding the insanely badass sword on all Lich King ads? That's Arthas. He has that same picture tonight. Oooooh man that makes me tingly in too many wrong places. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 10:03:45 PM | message detail | #105 |
| I'm loving Arthas's chances here. Going up against
two guys embattled in a fanbase split is always a good thing, and doing
so when you have your own devoted fanbase, hype, and a hugely appealing
picture is an even better thing. I'm expecting Arthas to beat Ike
comfortably, and I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up challenging
Pikachu. Fourth guy's Spy. He is a man in a well tailored suit and ninja mask. I love the video game industry. Arthas Menethil - 30% Ike - 26% Pikachu - 32% Spy - 12% Lopen’s Analysis My original idea on this match was that Arthas looked decent through Diablo last year (SFF or not, he still beat him which to me implies he has a good little fanbase) and that Ike was kind of weak last year... Gordon Freeman and Duke Nukem? Please. Oh how the passing of the contest changes things, though. The first: Duke Nukem impresses. I think this is just a fluke at the time... Gordon Freeman and Ike seemed like weak competition, so really a win over them wasn't impressing me that much. That was not the end, though. The second: KOS-MOS disappoints. I know picking her was an upset choice to be sure, but man, she was still supposed to make it close based off of last year. I'm not sure if that means anything for Diablo/Arthas, but it certainly doesn't make them look any better, as they were both beaten by her by a good 3%. The third: Gordon Freeman looks like a beast against Scorpion. Now... to me, this isn't necessarily because of Gordon's merit. Looking at Balthier's percentage in the match, it's quite possible that Scorpion just flopped big time. But... it's hard for me to undoubtedly write it off as "Scorpion sucks this year" because of Duke Nukem's antics earlier in the year. Also... we all thought Balthier was going to be worth more than fodder last year... maybe he decided to get it in gear this year? Not likely, but not the most crazy thing we've seen. Anyway, there's more evidence here to support Ike being better than fodder last year... so I'm not going to turn a blind eye to it. Now add to this the fact that he is at worst a top 3 on the most popular new characters in Smash, and you've got bad mojo just waiting to happen. If Ike was 4REAL last year... it's nothing Arthas can stop... Lich King or not. It's nothing the Spy can stop, with his fortress of teams. It's nothing Pikachu can stop. Pikachu is a steep mountain to climb, but with nothing to leech the casual vote? No badass that ranks above fodder? We like Ike in this match. We definitely like Ike. Next round is a different story with Alucard in the mix... Pikachu might hold out a bit better. But for now, all hail Ike, who is going to be the story of the first round owning Pikachu's face by hitting it with his truck-blade. (I have Pikachu > Arthas in my bracket, for the record) Lopen's Prediction Ike – 36.12% Pikachu – 31.75% Arthas – 20.08% Spy – 13.05% (maybe you deserve more cred... Team Fortress... we'll see) Transience’s Analysis this is the match that's given me more fits than any other. let's start with Pikachu. this dude was so underrated last year that he's now overrated. Pikachu is mid-tier when it comes to strength. some people think he's really strong now because of one of the luckiest paths last year - two Square characters, two Square characters again, and then three Capcom characters. Leon Kennedy beat Pikachu by like 10% before the weird fanbase split in the Dante match. I don't really know what to make of Pikachu, but I do know that he isn't super-strong. he seems to benefit from this format a lot because no one can anti-vote it, but it's not going to crush everything here, I don't think. that said, it almost definitely takes first. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 10:04:13 PM | message detail | #106 |
| Spy... I thought he would be trash, but we've seen
two Orange Box characters exceed expectations so far, so I won't be too
surprised if he pulls some 10-15% here. TF2 is about as niche as it
gets, but that fanbase supports their characters to the end, that's for
sure. now then, Ike and Arthas. I change my mind on this match every day, and it seems like every match relates to this one in some weird way. instead of writing an ocean of text, I'm just gonna post the points for and against each: Ike: + a very popular Brawl character + was pretty decent last year, coming close to beating Gordon and Duke Nukem, and unlike others wasn't a hugely hyped Brawl character but instead just an update on a website; should get the biggest boost from Brawl of all the newcomers + Gordon, Duke Nukem and Guybrush have all exceeded expectations in their round 1 matches, leading some to believe the entire fourpack was underrated in strength - has another Brawl character in the match with him in Pikachu - Brawl-only characters - Lucario, Wario, Diddy Kong - have kinda flopped this year relative to expectations. Meta-Knight did all right, even though he was a distant third to Ryu and the Block, so we'll call him a push but everyone else has looked kinda bad. Arthas: + impressive round 1 match last year, beating out Diablo and coming somewhat close to KOS-MOS despite there being two Blizzard characters in the poll + should be more popular this year due to all the hype surrounding the new World of Warcraft expansion + is clearly the most independent of the characters in this poll while Ike's got a yellow rat to suck a lot of his support - World of Warcraft isn't all that popular on this website, and WC3 can only mean so much. there's a sense of "can Arthas actually break 25% in a match?" here, and he might need it in order to advance. - are we so sure about "Blizzard SFF"? Diablo fans may not automatically vote for Arthas here. all said, I've got Arthas here, but not with much confidence. I feel like Ike might be pretty good due to being so much fun to use in Brawl. stickin' with Arthas though. I fight for my friends others vote for yellow rat the lich king skates by transience's prediction: Pikachu with 37.33%, Arthas with 25.45%, Ike with 23.89%, Spy with 13.33% Ngamer’s Analysis So anyways I was thinking about that absolutely absurd start for Falcon, and wondering when we'd ever seen something like it before. And then it hit me- Soul Calibur/Kingdom Hearts! KH was a Square RPG during the height of Square's dominance on the site that had sold 10 million copies and dominated the FAQ listings most of the year- we were expecting it to win with about 65% of the vote. Yet the poll came up and, weird, SC was hanging in there... then a minute later and SC was somehow KILLING! Now the connection here is of course that SC/KH kicked off at the conclusion of StarCraft vs Halo, arguably the most heavily rallied matchup of all time to that point, and one that came down to the final minutes. Much like StarCraft and Halo fans not caring a bit about KH, why would the L-Blockers being rallied to hold back Ryu's powerful second night vote care about Alucard? They wouldn't, and between Falcon dominating that match pic, being a fan favorite in both SSB and Melee, and having a small meme of his own regarding his Falcon PAAAUNCH, now his crazy start makes alot more sense. (Unfortunately there's another character with a weak ASV and a powerful second night vote that figures to be cut out at the knees by Block rallying- guy by the name of Crono. How gross is it that only WCC or Sandbag have any chance of causing a Block loss from here out?) But enough on the Block, we've got another potentially super-wacky result ahead of us today! Let's hop right in. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 10:04:57 PM | message detail | #107 |
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Last Known Values Pikachu - 24.59% (2007) Arthas - 16.78% (2007) Ike - 19.51% (2007) Spy - new You might as well throw that Arthas value right out the window. If you don't think that he and Diablo flat out devastated each other, and that left alone either would have crushed KOS-MOS with ease, then I'm afraid we can no longer be friends. The victory over Diablo makes it clear that the guy has a dedicated WC3 fanbase, and I see no reason for them to abandon him here. Then you add to that his being the face of the game receiving the biggest media blitz since Halo 3, AND drawing the perfect box art pic from that game for this poll, and its easy to see why I was willing to go out on a limb and make him my "upset special" pick for second place in this one. ...except as time went on Ike kept losing more and more support, until my upset pick had become the Guru consensus by the time brackets locked! What happened? Well I think that in addition to realizing how solid Arthas had performed in '07 (given the circumstances), people also started to realize what a grim situation Ike was looking at here in terms of LFF. Between Mudkip and Pikachu and Mewtwo, 2007 made it pretty evident that well-loved Pokemon from the R/B/Y and G/S/C era can hang in there with anyone in this format, even Nintendo heavy hitters like Ganon and Luigi and Bowser. And sure Ike is a Brawl casual favorite, but heck, so is Pikachu, and the guy ALSO held that title in almost undisputed fashion in both SSB and Melee. How could poor Ike be expected to perform much above the fodder line in the face of all that? I don't think he should be, and its unfortunate that what will end up being credited as 'Brawl Newcomer Weakness' will actually be, at least in this case, just a matter of Pikachu pulling from too many fanbases to be held back in this format. As for Spy, well, Portal has already looked solid and Half-Life has already looked quite respectable itself, so I don't see why TF2 wouldn't continue the trend tomorrow. Picking him to beat an LFF weakened Ike is pushing it IMO, especially when I don't think Spy is going to perform at the level of his more iconic co-TF2er the Heavy, but I wouldn't be shocked if he hung around that level before the SSB morning vote kicked in. In summation, I felt fairly confident about Arthas over Ike earlier today. After seeing this match pic, I'm upgrading that to "very confident." Now the fun will be in seeing where this wildcard named Arthas ends up- will the WoW regions rally him all the way past Pika to set him up beautifully for a Round Three appearance? I wouldn't count it out! After converting those thoughts to numbers, my pot has been stirred and it produced the following numbers: Pikachu - 33.99% Arthas Menethil - 28.14% Ike - 23.17% Spy - 14.69% Those look so good that I'm drooling! Ngamer Says: Pikachu > Arthas Guest’s Analysis - Biolizard This is one of the more interesting matches of round one, if only because the two main contenders for second have probably the most debatable strengths in the entire contest. In this corner, Arthas Menethil! Not failing to impress last year, Arthas gave a relatively surprising performance. Despite not winning, he proved to us that he was not the Diablo fodder we thought he was. Though he lost to KOS-MOS, could SFF have held him back? If he's stronger than Diablo, at any rate, it's possible that true potential is hidden within. Next up is Ike. Failing to pass to round two, like Arthas, Ike actually disappointed, considering he had a Brawl announcement and supposedly full Nintendo support thrown being thrown behind him. After a close match with Gordon and Duke, many people were quick to write off Ike as low-midcard/high fodder. But with both characters having excellent performances this year, anything could happen. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 10:06:10 PM | message detail | #108 |
| Here we have Pikachu. The infamous Pokemon tore
into the competition last year, supposedly riding one wild wave of SFF
which would lead to him bringing Luigi down with him in round four.
Basically the only proof we'd ever need that Pokemon was heavily
antivoted in earlier years, Pikachu looks to pick up where he left off
and take first in this match. Lastly, we have the Spy. Our first Team Fortress 2 representative looks to have an uphill battle ahead of him. Considering how well characters featured in The Orange Box have been doing, is it possible for the Spy to impress? Or will he be the first sign of weakness in the Box? As for the match, first place is a relatively simple pick. Pikachu was, by far, the best of the three returning characters last year. Seeing as there's little to no indication of Team Fortress being as big a threat as Portal or Half-Life, we can at least write off the Spy as far as advancing goes. No, the true battle lies between Ike and Arthas. These two characters have changed so much since the last contest, it's hard to pinpoint their exact strength. Arthas is the main "boss" of the newest WoW expansion, to my understanding. His face is plastered on every advertisement for the game. He's been getting a lot more exposure since last year. Meanwhile, Ike has become a huge fan favorite amongst Brawlers, and is considered one of the most used characters in the game's online. Ike has even had a new game come out since then. Unlike the other Brawl characters we've seen so far, Ike actually has a following coming from the game. Coupled with his existing fanbase, he should be a force. However, talk of the town is that Ike will suffer an SFF beating at the hands of Pikachu. Simply being a Nintendo character with another Nintendo character in the poll does not SFF make, I believe. While I don't deny that Ike will lose some support, you have to consider that the Pokemon and Fire Emblem fanbases probably don't overlap at all. If they do, it's hardly enough to matter. As far as Brawl support? As I've said, Ike is a huge casual favorite. He's one of the most popular characters in the game. Pikachu, while frequently used, probably doesn't have as much of a "presence" as Ike does. But then we have Arthas, who's nowhere to go but up since last year. With his image around most every major gaming website, and now being part of the WoW universe, Arthas looks to make serious gains. But did he have much strength in the first place? Correct me if I'm wrong, but with all Diablo votes going to Arthas, he only barely eeks out KOS-MOS. That simply doesn't sound very appealing to me. Am I underrating Lich King boosts? Possibly. But in the end, I feel Pikachu > Ike makes just a bit more sense. I won't be shocked either way.... Unless of course SPYFEAR No sympathy here. Pikachu fights for his friends. That means you, Ike-y. Bio's prediction: Pikachu > Ike Bio's Bracket: Pikachu > Ike Percentage Predix: Pikachu: 34% Ike: 27% Arthas: 23% Spy: 16% Crew Consensus: Pika > Arthas is the majority, but Lopen has Ike > Pika and Bio has Pika > Ike. well then |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/2/2008 10:06:28 PM | message detail | #109 |
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Glad to see the smart preditions here outside of Lopens "o.O" prediction. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/2/2008 10:07:25 PM | message detail | #110 |
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DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis: This may have been my least favorite match while predicting the bracket. If there's one kind of character that I have no idea how to gauge its strength, it's Blizzard characters. For the most part, I try to stick to a "Ignore it, it doesn't have a strong enough fanbase on GameFAQs to win" strategy, but the unbelievable run by StarCraft in the Best Game Ever contest always strikes fear in me. I'm contradicted in that I can't overlook it, but I can't help but overlook it. So, of course, in my first glance of the bracket, I went with Pikachu > Ike without much second thought. Then, as the weeks went on, it became harder and harder to ignore a certain very vocal Arthas supporter. As with many of my other picks, I went with Ike with not much confidence, but less confidence in the others, but I was beginning to be persuaded. I ultimately decided that Ike was just not a solid enough fanbase, that his FE support would be minimal and his SSBB support drained by Pikachu, and that Arthas came from a big enough of a solid fanbase that he could push through into the next round. Of course, I could see Ike getting significantly more of the SSBB vote than Pikachu, and Captain Falcon made me look like a fool by thinking that Diddy would take enough of his SSB vote to drop him to third. And I'm gonna feel like an idiot again if Ike beats out Arthas....but I can see it happening. (And I'm looking at this match pic now, and that looks terrible for Arthas....I'm regretting this, now....) Dp's bracket says: Pikachu > Arthas Dp's prediction is: Pikachu > Arthas Confidence: 50% Pikachu - 36% Arthas - 27% Ike - 25% Spy - 12% --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 10:07:27 PM | message detail | #111 |
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Psh, smart predictions get you Link>Zidane, Ryu>MK, and Alucard>Diddy! --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 10/2/2008 10:14:00 PM | message detail | #112 |
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Ah crud, the crew agrees with my bracket. You guys are great at
analyzing don't get my wrong, but the majority of you picking the same
thing in a tough match is the equivalent of smashing 4 mirrors, walking
under 8 ladders, and spilling 15 spoonfuls of salt. --- Oh, sorry, I got distracted by the Internet. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/2/2008 10:15:18 PM | message detail | #113 |
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Then, as the weeks went on, it became harder and harder to ignore a certain very vocal Arthas supporter. sup --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/2/2008 10:19:00 PM | message detail | #114 |
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not much, you? --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/2/2008 10:19:44 PM | message detail | #115 |
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(By the way, I blame you for everything if it's Pikachu > Ike tomorrow. Everything.) --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 10:25:18 PM | message detail | #116 |
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I feel bad about this match. like.. if we had never seen Arthas, would anybody even consider him besides Blizzard freaks? http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=2 check out those Arthas predictions. (and I didn't post this because I got first!) --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/2/2008 10:27:28 PM | message detail | #117 |
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Didn't check that link, but I remember last year Arthas had about 10%,
and Diablo had 19%, and everyone expected Diablo and Kosmos to be
incredibly close and Arthas to be a non factor How much changes in a year. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2008 12:11:28 AM | message detail | #118 |
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crew looks safe today. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2008 2:39:22 AM | message detail | #119 |
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I really need to stop analyzing against
my bracket. Surprised there wasn't more worry amongst the crew after
Duke and Gordon... though maybe this is where the crew's overall
stubbornness in supporting their bracket helped out. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2008 2:48:13 AM | message detail | #120 |
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nah. I've got no problem going against my bracket. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 3:10:44 AM | message detail | #121 |
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Eh, I'm trying to take last year's results with a spoonful more salt
than I would for a traditional bracket. This crap is just too crazy.
Besides, Ike could have overperformed from being the poll's only
Nintendo option and sharing the poll with three goofy white guys. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2008 3:40:58 AM | message detail | #122 |
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come to think of it, Duke/Ike/Gordon/Guybrush might be the best white-boy poll ever. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 10:12:27 AM | message detail | #123 |
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Alucard...................35.54% 43108 Captain Falcon.....28.39% 34435 Diddy Kong............18.92% 22950 Kratos Aurion........17.14% 20787 TOTAL VOTES.................121280 What Happened - So in a rather surprising result, Falcon ends up blowing Diddy and Kratos out of the water. Falcon started out very strong with the board vote, even over Alucard, and that carried out for about a half-hour before Alucard took over and dominated the night vote. Still, Falcon was in no danger of losing his #2 position in the poll. Why it Happened - Kratos looks pretty weaker here (weaker than usual I mean), but that may be because he was sharing the poll with two other Nintendo characters, and ToS gets most of its support from GCN fans. Diddy Kong straight up flopped, as he definitely wasn't as strong as most expected. As for Falcon, who really knows? He didn't even get this much percent against Crono 2 years ago. I guess between 2007 or Brawl or something he boosted massively, and we just didn't see it because Fox, another popular Smash character, SFFed him so hard, he ended up below Wario. It's also kind of hard to judge Alucard's performance here because we're so used to see Falcon look like crap. What Will Happen - Well Falcon making Round 2 doesn't help Pikachu's chances against Alucard for the top spot, I'll tell you that. Crew Prediction Challenge - Yay no one! Yoblazer - 10 Guest - 9 HM - 9 Tran - 9 Ngamer - 9 Moltar - 8 Lopen - 6 Crew Accuracy Challenge - HM gets the point for Alucard, Lopen had the lowest Diddy, greatone gets the point for Kratos, and Ngamer had the highest Falcon. Moltar - 14 HM - 13 Yoblazer - 12 Ngamer - 9 Tran - 8 Lopen - 6 Guest (War, KP (2), Dp, Justin, greatone) - 6 --- Moltar Status: augh Arthas/Ike/Pikachu/Spy - Bracket: Pikachu > Arthas - Vote: Uhh... (46/60) |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/3/2008 1:44:56 PM | message detail | #124 |
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Okay, Crono, you're alright.... --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/3/2008 1:50:36 PM | message detail | #125 |
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Lopen's Prediction Ike – 36.12% Pikachu – 31.75% Arthas – 20.08% Are you some kind of comedian? --- Smurf. The cream of Sonic Fanboyism you're like some devious internet fiend- Majin |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 2:23:33 PM | message detail | #126 |
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Smurf, are you gunning for Lopen's spot next contest? Because you two should totally duel to the death for it. --- Moltar Status: augh Arthas/Ike/Pikachu/Spy - Bracket: Pikachu > Arthas - Vote: Uhh... (46/60) |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2008 6:05:43 PM | message detail | #127 |
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Smurf would just throw a group of percentages out there and give a list
of the top 10 characters in every match to obtain those percentages.
But I mean, maybe people would be down with that. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| RaeSaraneth | Posted 10/3/2008 7:13:30 PM | message detail | #128 |
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Pft, Lopen's way less troll-ish. --- ^_^ |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 9:03:06 PM | message detail | #129 |
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Division 5: Round 1 - Match 17 – Donkey Kong vs. Tails vs. Tidus vs. Weighted Companion Cube Moltar’s Analysis Donkey Kong Game/Series Known From: Donkey Kong 2007 Results: 2nd Place in Round 1 vs. Kratos, Marth and Prince of all Cosmos 4th Place in Round 2 vs. Kratos, L-Block and Kirby Brawl Character #17, match #17, keeping up so far! Tails Game/Series Known From: Sonic 2007 Results: 4th Place in Round 1 vs. Vincent, Zelda and The Boss The Boss is awesome and all…but wow Tails, that’s just sad Tidus Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy X 2007 Results: 2nd Place in Round 1vs. Pikachu, Isaac and Serge 4th Place in Round 2 vs. Leon, Pikachu and Vivi The guy/girl we love to hate is back. WCC Game/Series Known From: Portal 2007 Results: N/A Not even incineration can kill it Well this is a match made up of three Contest flops and a Cube. Don’t you just love these groups? DK’s been known to choke in the past, but last year he pretty much did what everyone expected. Second in round 1 due to Kratos being stronger than him and Marth taking votes. Then he looked pretty bad in Round 2, but that’s because Kirby took the majority of the Nintendo vote. This year he gets a much easier group to start, so let’s hope he doesn’t choke this one away. Tails lost to The Boss. Yes, I know MGS looked great in Round 1 last year, while Sonic Team looked bad. Still, you don’t lose to The Boss and then go on to beat DK and Tidus. Tails is likely to end up last here…again. Tidus is another choker. After defeating Ganondorf in a close match during Square’s year, he went on to embarrass himself year after year with bigger than expected losses to Mega Man, Kirby and Squall. Last year was no exception, as suddenly Pikachu was able to take advantage of the four-way format and beat Tidus. Oddly enough, he looked better in Round 2 where there was stronger competition. He came close to beating Vivi, and the two weren’t far away from the 2nd place Pikachu. Then there’s the unknown variable, Weighted Companion Cube. Yes, it’s a joke character, but one with a small bit of potential. We saw it pull 20% in a joke poll at the end of the last contest, and we saw GlaDOS pull 20% with Vincent and Falco, meaning a fair amount of people have played Portal and will vote it over whatever else. With the Cube, it gets that plus people who are “in” on the joke. It has a good chance of taking one of the two top spots, considering DK and Tidus aren’t the most reliable competitors and JokeFAQs is still running strong. However, I just don’t think Portal and the Cube is at that level (though GlaDOS’s performance scares me). Even if it does get that 20% and then some, I can see both Tidus and DK outdoing that by a little. As for who gets first, I’m going with Tidus, since I think he’s stronger, and Square fans are more likely to support him than Nintendo with DK, as evidenced in Round 2 from both competitors. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Tidus > DK Moltar’s Prediction is: Tidus: 33% - DK: 27% - WCC: 25% - Tails: 15% Heroic Mario’s Analysis This is being written pre-Block, so if turns out the joke characters are out in full force this year -- 'whoops.' (Moltar note: whoops indeed) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 9:03:31 PM | message detail | #130 |
| The big question in this match is how well does
the Cube do. Depending on how many people find the idea of a cube with
hearts on it winning funny will determine whether or not it advances.
I'm banking on the Cube not being as widespread as it needs to be in
order for that to happen. You can make the argument that you don't need
to know the story behind a cube with hearts on it, but unlike L-Block
it doesn't instantly click with most people. It may not be "funny"
enough without knowing the idea behind it...or maybe not. Who knows
with these joke characters -- I don't like predicting them. Out of all
of them, though, the Cube has the best competition to advance. Tidus and DK, while not that weak, have gained a reputation for choking. DK almost always loses matches where he's expected to win, and Tidus seems to keep falling more and more each year -- going 50/50 with Ganon to 50/50 with Shadow to losing to Pikachu. He's seen better years. Still, I think he gets knocked a bit too much. For all that he lost to Pikachu last year, it wasn't a blowout -- it was primarily underestimating how much the "Pokehate" had gone down. It's still not a good thing that Tidus lost, but it doesn't render him fodder, not in this format where Pokemon seem to thrive. If you look back at round 2, Tidus would have advanced in Pikachu's place if you took Vivi away. He got around 20% against Leon Kennedy, Pikachu, and Vivi. That seems to tell me he's got a solid amount of people who will back him despite the competition he's up against. Here, he's going up against what might as well be two Nintendo characters and a cube. Given how the Nintendo guys have performed this year -- certainly not in for another year of domination post-Brawl -- I think Tidus is primed to take first here. It'll probably be close, but I like his chances. And when there's a chance, I go with Square! woo bias Prediction: Tidus - 33% ; DK - 30% ; WCC - 22% ; Tails - 15% Bracket: Tidus > DK Vote: Tidus Yoblazer’s Analysis http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=973 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1351 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1740 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2106 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1307 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1754 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2104 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2516 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2885 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3240 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3257 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc Donkey Kong - 25% Miles "Tails" Prower - 17% Tidus - 28% Weighted Companion Cube - 30% Lopen’s Analysis Battle of the choke artists so it's called. What if I said that two chokes make a... um... free air flow? ... whatever the opposite of a choke is! Manually breathing. Losing the game? I don't know! What I'm saying is I'm not taking Tidus or DK to lose here. I've always doubted the WCC's power to harness JOKEFEAR. It's just... too obscure to get the kinda support L-Block does. I'm not saying Portal doesn't have a fanbase here, but it's not enough. I'm sure Yoblazer will be quick to cite GlaDOS's success earlier this round as support for the Cube, but I really don't see it as a huge benefit... in some ways it almost makes me doubt the Cube more, wondering how many raw joke votes WCC really got in the final last year. With GlaDOS pulling in those numbers, that 20% WCC got in the joke invitational could've been basically all Portal fans. Is the name/design really funny enough to draw in people who don't know Portal? Not sure. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 9:04:11 PM | message detail | #131 |
| I've also gotta doubt Cube's rate of conversion
from GlaDOS. Although we can't really draw much from this, it's curious
anyway that I conducted a poll on B8 among GlaDOS voters, and asked if
they were voting the cube/would they vote GlaDOS were she in the cube's
place. Amazingly, well over half of them (got about 20-25 responses)
replied that they were not, but would vote GlaDOS were she there. Not
exactly "scientific study" material, but something to consider
nonetheless. So yeah... basically, while I think Cube should do well for itself, with DK and Tidus being fairly balanced at around 30% each a weak (static?) joke fanbase and the relatively small Portal fanbase probably won't be enough to place. Now, Cube aside... DK vs Tidus, who ya got in this battle of chokers? Me, I took Tidus. Way I see it: Tidus and Vivi about split evenly last year. Vivi beat DK pretty soundly a few years ago. LOTS of boosts in DK's corner since then, but there's also the format, which to me should favor Tidus. DK dropped down to a lowly 14% last year when he was thrown in with Kratos, Kirby, and L. Tidus held up a lot better against an arguably tougher group that also had SFF in it in Vivi, Leon, and Pikachu. To me that says Tidus likes the format more. Also, Miles Per Hour probably hurts DK more than Tidus, for however much that's worth. "Icon SFF" or something. Lopen's Prediction: Tidus – 30.61% DK – 27.30% Cube – 23.03% Miles Per Hour – 19.06% Transience’s Analysis okay, let's start with the "real" characters first, then we'll get to the Cube. DK, Tidus and Tails are three of the biggest choke jobs we have. DK's lost a host of famous matches, from Tommy Vercetti in 2003 to the epic Master Chief collapse in 2005 to dropping the biggest vote total in contest history before barely coming back in the Game Contest against Duck Hunt. Tidus has been embarrassed four years in a row - Mega Man in 2004, Kirby in 2005, Squall in 2006 and Pikachu in 2007. Tails is just weak, and flat-out trash in this format. when we compare Tidus and DK statistically, DK comes out on top - 49% on 2005 Master Chief is better than 42% on 2005 Kirby. DK got 28% in a poll with Marth and Kratos -- Tidus got 32% against friggin' Serge, Isaac and Pikachu. DK also has had Brawl this year while Tidus has.. Dissidia hype. yeah, goin' with DK between those two. then there's the Cube. we've seen three Orange Box characters so far - Glados, Gordon Freeman, Spy - and all of them have exceeded most people's expectations. Orange Box looks like a real, legitimate factor, and the Cube *has* to be stronger than Glados given that it's more recognizable. Glados got 20% in a poll with much better competition - Vincent rocks any of these guys and Falco's probably close to DK. plus, GameFAQs has shown that they'll vote en masse for inanimate objects, and the Cube is far more endearing than the L-Block is. of course, L-Block wins out big on the recognizability factor, but I think people would vote for the Cube that wouldn't vote for the Block. if people right now are voting for L-Block because it's funny, they should vote for the Cube even if they have no idea what it is. L-Block's success compels people to vote for the Cube, I think. the Cube's got a pretty easy path if he/she/it gets past round 1. if it moves on - and I think it will - then we'll be seeing it walk out of its division with ease. hail the Cube. DK beats Tee-dus so does the Companion Cube embarrassed once more transience's prediction: Donkey Kong with 30.30%, Weighted Companion Cube with 29.45%, Tidus with 26.51%, Tails with 13.74% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 9:04:33 PM | message detail | #132 |
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Ngamer’s Analysis After a stretch of bad results there, I'd forgotten how good it feels to go out on a limb and be right for a change. I gave Ike plenty of credit but still expected Arthas to have a little too much in the tank in terms of WotLK hype and rally power to fall back on if need be, and that was correct- whoo! (What's that you say? Arthas wasn't even the risky pick there? Hey, stop killing my buzz!) And now we return to... joke character territory, uh oh! Now as I explained in that post-Block writeup I DO think that jokes add something to the 4-way table. In the first round, that is. L-Block and WCC and Hogger and Sandbag, all of these are legitimately enjoyable matches to discuss and debate beforehand, because the element of the unknown means these jokes could either be true threats or absolute busts. The trouble is that from R2 and on, we're able to pin their strength down pretty easily, and their static fanbases work to actually makes results from then on LESS interesting. But okay, I'm starting to get carried away, got to break that line of thought and jump right into where these fellows finished up last time around: Last Known Values Tidus - 22.69% (2007) Donkey Kong - 21.53% (2007) Tails - 18.26% (2007) WCC - new (however if you count the bonus match and base it off L-Block, it's... really high) The Cube is undoubtedly the one to watch out of this whole delightful mess. In my opinion it has a pretty tremendous range: I could see it pulling anywhere from 20.00% (which is what GlaDOS managed against Vincent and is probably a pretty good indication of what pure Portal appeal is worth) and 31.81% (what L-Block managed against Ryu; we know Block could have gone higher if not for The Dog, but I can't see WCC having that kind of broad appeal right off the bat, so 32 seems about right). The trouble of course is that if its more to the low end, all Cube can hope for is to hold off Tails for third place... but if it performs toward the high end, it could not only win this four pack but do it convincingly. I hope that I'm just being too knee-jerkingly reactionary, but sorry, the way Block performed at mid-season '07 levels while having enough "funny" jokes left over for The Dog to look like at least somewhat decent fodder has me suffering from a pretty severe case of JOKEFEAR right now. I see the Cube finishing closer to the high end of my given range, which adds a whole new layer of excitement to this match- only one other option can survive here. Who will it be?! Let's eliminate Tails from the running right off the bat. Even if WCC was Tanner-level fodder no one would be giving this guy a shot at advancement, and with good reason; you don't go from losing to The Boss to knocking out decent midcarders, especially not when your Sonic Teams pals have been bombing left and right ever since this new format came into play. OK, so how about Tidus? I think the FFX lead has been given a great opportunity here. He gets to act as a lightning rod for all things FF/Square/RPG and really stands out from this crowd of fuzzy animals and weird boxes. The underperformance from Vincent aside (which I still don't understand BTW), that's been a recipe for success so far this season, and I'm not seeing any reason for it to stop now. The only negative I see for Tidus is his match picture, but eh, he always looks kind of embarrasingly feminine in his pics, and that's never stop- Alright, so maybe it HAS stopped him before. But still, bad pics should just be a natural part of his (lack of?) strength by this point, so I don't see him flopping TOO far below expectations. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 9:05:19 PM | message detail | #133 |
| That leaves us with only Donkey Kong. The poor
guy... I see him losing here, finishing out of the running in third and
having to put up with wave after wave of "better loosen that tie DK,
you're choking
again!" topics in the next 24 hours, but he really won't deserve it.
The King of the Kongs has just been placed in a really unfavorable
position here: we've already seen that there's a pretty serious
connection between Nintendo and Sonic these days with the way Mario and
Zelda caused Knuckles and Shadow to underperform, and so even though
Tails shouldn't be pulling in a very large percentage of these votes,
the few voters he does win over will be coming at DK's expense IMO. On
top of that I just get the unexplainable impression that WCC, much like
L-Block before it, is going to take the biggest bite out of old school
Nintendo characters, and since we've already seen how bad DK looked
when dealing with pressure from Blocky and Kirby, that feels like
another strike against him. Maybe that sounds weird, but yeah, I can't
shake the idea that Tidus supporters are going to be more loyal and
less willing to toss their vote to the Cube for the sake of a laugh. In summation, if DK is able to overcome all these obstacles and advance tomorrow, I'll be hugely impressed. If Tidus blows all of his advantages and fails tomorrow, he will earn the title of the undisputed biggest choker in GameFAQs history. If JOKEFEAR fails me tomorrow and the Cube flops hard, I will be very surprised (but also overjoyed). Let's numberize those thoughts, stir them in the pot for a few minutes, and come out with: Weighted Companion Cube - 27.66% Tidus - 27.55% Donkey Kong - 26.23% Miles 'Tails' Prower - 18.56% And with that we reach the sad end of an era, as I've been forced to pick against my bracket (Tidus > DK) for the first time this year. *wipes away a single tear* Ngamer Says: WCC > Tidus Guest’s Analysis - nintendogirl1 NGirl guest analysis time wooo! First things first, I am a Portal fan. A big Portal fan. If you are one of those people who doesn’t like the Weighted Companion Cube, this is probably not something you want to be reading. You should also rush to the euthanasia clinic and end yorself, because I cannot continue until your bad opinions have been incinerated. Ready to start now? Excellent. The match I clamoured to analyze is a real humdinger of a poll between a longtime Nintendo heavyweight no-one really likes, the main character of a Final Fantasy game that no-one really likes (the character, not the game), a Sonic character that has most likely died with the rest of Sonic Team in a big ball of burning 3-D **** and one of three characters from an innovative puzzler that received rave reviews from the critics. Can you spot where the bias is going yet? First up is the big dumb ape Donkey Kong. Yes, Donkey Kong is here and for the first time he isn’t the only Kong in the contest. Diddy’s awesome showing doesn’t exactly fill you with confidence in the Kong’s though does it? For a character that Board 8 has been trying to get in for years, he showed exactly why he had never gotten in before. No-one cares about Donkey Kong games.DK in my opinion gets his votes for having been a Nintendo character since the very beginning, franchise voting at it’s finest. The chance of an SSBB boost is looking less and less likely after epic fails by Lucario and Diddy, with no characters from it looking good except Falcon and Nintendo’s Big Three. But the most important thing about DK in the contests? He throws everything away with an inexplicably bad day vote. Master Chief and Tommy Vercetti took him to the cleaners and he didn’t fair so well against L-Block either. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 9:07:03 PM | message detail | #134 |
| Next up is Tidus, according to Zachnorn’s
interpretation the B8 wiki describes him as “perhaps the most
underappreciated character of all-time.” I think it was closer to the
mark when Red Shifter tagged him as “The most hated character ever,”
even among rabid Square fans. That may be a little extreme but it would
not shock me in the slightest if Zack creamed Tidus in an SFF blowout
of awesome proportions. Tidus also has been on an ever increasing
plummet from grace in the contest. He started with a 41% showing on
Sonic way back in 2k2, went nearly 50/50 with the Gdorf in 2k3,
sneaking past Shadow by 1500 votes in 2k4 and then getting crushed by
Kirby in 2k5, Squall in 2k6 in an SFF blowout and Leon in 2k7 albeit
with Vivi in the poll alongside him. Tails has been in 4 contests, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2007. He has won only 1 match in all of them and he won with 55% over Viewtiful Joe. Sonic characters are falling apart both in this format and as legitimate character anyway as the series continues to be run into the ground in glorious next-gen 3D. Moving swiftly on... Finally, we have a new entry and complete wildcard in the Weighted Companion Cube or Cubey as I will affectionately call him from now on. It appears I also genderized it. Also when making a match pic, I saw some horrible pictures of Chell and Cubey that well ... there are times when you just wish the internet had never come up with Rule 34. Coming from Portal which is in my opinion the greatest modern puzzle game, being packaged in the Orange Box did wonders in getting what could have been a very cult game exposed to the masses. At the heart of it (ho ho ho), Cubey is a box that appears in level 17 of 19, and is simply a device to push switches with. Give it a heart though and force you to do terrible things, with Glados providing some excellent lines and it has become a phenomenon. Yes it’s a joke character, but like L-Block and Mudkip it comes with a following unlike that of CATS of people who will vote for it for reasons other then the joke. So how will this great mountain of fail with a Companion Cube thrown in work itself out when it comes down to the voters? Tails is fodder and will be getting last although he should manage to get in the high teens. DK and Tidus are virtually neck and neck at this point so expect a tightly fought match between them with Tidus squeaking out victory. But their epic battle will be for second place, because we have seen in L-Block that joke voting is still in fashion and the Cube has it’s solid Portal core that saw GlaDOS reach 30% on Vincent. That is Cubey’s absolute floor and it has the scope to easily reach the Division Fianl, which is where I have it going to. Should it get an L-Block-esque train rolling then expect to see them both in the Final with an end result of Link > Cloud. Won’t that be an awesome end to the contest? Percentage-wise I see it looking something like this: Tails: 18.69% DK: 23.73% Tidus: 24.52% Cube: 33.06% Remember if Cubey loses, the poll is a lie. Crew Consensus: Molt, HM, Lo have Tidus > DK; Yo, Ngame and Ngirl have Cube > Tidus; Tran has DK > Cube. There's no consensus here! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/3/2008 9:07:45 PM | message detail | #135 |
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Tran will win! Holy crap, in debated matches, I think this is the first time me and tranny have the same pick. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| transients | Posted 10/3/2008 9:15:39 PM | message detail | #136 |
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I'm on Soul's side? hoo boy. yoblazer's analysis wins today. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/3/2008 9:16:11 PM | message detail | #137 |
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Heh, consensus.... DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis: Donkey Kong - Sucks, no faith in him. Tidus - Sucks, no faith in him. Tails - Voters suck, no faith in them. WCC - No. Ugh, this match....usually the fight between two losers is for second, but this one is for first. Anyway, I'm sure the actual Crew will go into more detail, as usual. My pick was very much instinctual, with little thought put into it. One of those matches where I just wanted to pick and run as far away from as possible. It looks like most of the Guru and Crew disagree with me, but I went with Donkey Kong here. As long as I have no faith in Tidus either, I'll go with the very exposed Nintendo character over the Final Fantasy X character. Of the two, DK is probably going to get SFFed more by Tails and WCC, but - and I don't believe I'm saying this - I believe in Donkey Kong to pull through. Man, even Tails is an underachiever, what's with this match....all hail the best sidekick ever! Dp's bracket says: Donkey Kong > Tidus Dp's prediction is: Donkey Kong > Tidus Confidence: 65% (probably going down after I read the Crew's writeups) Donkey Kong - 31% Tidus - 30% Tails - 20% WCC - 19% --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/3/2008 9:28:23 PM | message detail | #138 |
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After defeating Ganondorf in a close match during Square’s year I wasn't aware the FAILALYSIS CREW would stoop so low as to making up lies BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG HUH --- This was KING BELLIS LOL ed status: throw bees on everything |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 10/3/2008 9:50:20 PM | message detail | #139 |
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Afraid Ed is correct here... Ganon beat out Tidus in a nailbiter before losing that nailbiter to Magus. Anyways like I said, had to go WCC out of jokefear, but he would have such an easy path from here out (assuming he could make it through and then pick up some steam L-Block style) that I would much prefer to be wrong on this one, for the sake of later rounds. --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/3/2008 9:53:28 PM | message detail | #140 |
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No, NGamer! Don't go to the Dark Side! --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| transients | Posted 10/3/2008 9:53:55 PM | message detail | #141 |
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I'm all right with the Cube's path.. losing Tidus and DK isn't a big
deal, and then we've got (probably) MM/Snake/Cube/Zero. kind of a fun
match that wouldn't have been fun without it. if he moves on from there, Cloud/Snake/Cube/Yoshi (probably). hrm. these are all consensus matches that are suddenly more interesting. L wrecks good matches; Cube actually enhances them. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2008 10:05:21 PM | message detail | #142 |
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Speak for yourself, Tranman... Mega Man/Tidus/Zero/Snake ain't goin by the books...! But uh, yeah. I have no problem with the Cube unlike L-Block. In fact going by preference I might want Tidus > Cube here. Aside from the Dog it's my favorite joke entrant. I just don't think it'll get much from outside the Portal fanbase, that's all. Bet HM and Moltar feel real assured with me tagging along on this slight majority ha ha. And whoo for being "less of a troll" I'll take that as "best analyst ever" thanks Rae. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 10:05:54 PM | message detail | #143 |
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Ed Bellis (#138) I saw that before and thought I changed 'defeated' but uh 'oops' --- Moltar Status: augh DK/Tails/Tidus/Cube - Bracket: Tidus > DK - Vote: DK (50/64) |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 10/3/2008 10:06:37 PM | message detail | #144 |
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Well now that you mention it tranny... eh, I still don't like Cube for
R2. Imagine if WCC flopped and Tidus were to barely edge out DK for the
win, and then tomorrow Nero goes all Dante on that fourpack and
advances behind MM with ease. Suddenly we're talking about a really
exciting and hotly-contested fatal threeway to advance out of that
group between two known chokers of equal strength and one newbie with
excellent potential but who no one wants to put any real faith in. As for R3 and R4 though, I've got to agree that you're right... Snake > MM and Cloud > Snake are two of the most dull consensuses of the whole bracket, and it might be worth letting a joke run wild just to shake them up a little. So I guess it won't be SO bad if Cube gets through this with his life. --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 10/3/2008 11:43:26 PM | message detail | #145 |
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I think I recall a person or two doubting that "joke LFF" really existed and that if you removed The Dog L-Block wouldn't really have gone through the roof. Well, doubt no longer! --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2008 11:58:18 PM | message detail | #146 |
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well, we sorta got this one. better than most I imagine! --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| RaeSaraneth | Posted 10/4/2008 12:14:34 AM | message detail | #147 |
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Haha, np, Lopen. I'm definitely sticking with my bracket on this one. (Cube>Tidus) yay cube :D We all love him (you do) --- ^_^ |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 10/4/2008 1:52:35 AM | message detail | #148 |
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This is weird to say, but, SB messed up with this bracket. Assuming WCC
picks up steam in the coming rounds (seems possible) and that Sandbag
does an equally good job of drawing the joke votes (seems very likely),
we'll be seeing a Cloud/Sephiroth/Sandman/Cube battle to decide who
comes out of the bottom of the bracket. Which is awesome in that the
bag and Cube will split the joke base and knock each other out of the
Contest, but awful in that it sets up an easy victory for Block in that
Block/Link/Cloud/Sephiroth final. This is sick, but this bracket needed one more joke character... something like a ?-Block in the place of Ammy to balance the field and knock both itself and L out of the competition before the Finals. --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 1:57:01 AM | message detail | #149 |
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I wouldn't be too sure in Sephiroth knocking out both joke characters
in that scenario. One of them (probably Sandbag if he knocks enough
heads to make it that far) might get the clear edge, and Sephiroth may
get knocked around by Cloud. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2008 2:00:57 AM | message detail | #150 |
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I wouldn't automatically hand Sandbag the semifinal spot. we've got a
lot to see still, and Sandbag's a little different from the other ones. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
