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Just Some Person | Posted 9/20/2008 9:38:23 PM | message detail | #201
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Just Some Person
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Match 3: Marth > Duke > Niko > Kefka


Even though I don't have a bracket, I would like to state that I am proud to be correct for this particular matchup.

Duke only leads to salvation. Do not doubt Him.

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 9:40:12 PM | message detail | #202
I meant Kefka had an abysmal pic and Niko still only squeaked by today. Given a normal pic I think Kefka takes Duke, but at the very least we can agree on that he probably takes Niko.

And dammit Dp Nariko has TJF... yeah. Instant votes...!

(Augh Uncharted why do people like this game so much)
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Tohoya | Posted 9/20/2008 9:44:51 PM | message detail | #203
Pokemon, do bad?
not in a four-way contest
Altair gets second


Lol @ your inability yo pronounce Altair (It's Ahl-Tah-Ear)
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NotTerrafire | Posted 9/20/2008 9:46:03 PM | message detail | #204

Tohoya | Posted 9/21/2008 3:44:51 AM (#203)
Lol @ your inability yo pronounce Altair (It's Ahl-Tah-Ear)



Lol @ your inability to pronounce second (It's Two-th)
DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 9:57:05 PM | message detail | #205
What's not to like about Uncharted?

Ugh, you....

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 9:59:31 PM | message detail | #206
You know, probably if I played Uncharted more and was forced to watch it less I'd not dislike it so much. I'm probably being a bit unfair on it. No doubt in my mind Heavenly Sword is the better game though...!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/20/2008 10:00:59 PM | message detail | #207
Oh wow, good find with that AC pre-poll tranny. Wasn't even that far back of Galaxy, and doubled up Mass Effect, that's pretty impressive. All I remembered regarding AC in the polls was how it got snubbed from the GotY, so I figured we had no data to go on.

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smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:02:15 PM | message detail | #208
Damn, the crew consensus is Lucario > Altair. I better change my Oracle pick to Lucario > Isaac then...

(Just kidding, guys).
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/20/2008 10:03:29 PM | message detail | #209
Nobody should change their things because so far we've had 3 upsets and we don't know what's going to happen. That, and because odds are Isaac will be SFFed by Lucario or Vice Versa.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 10:05:07 PM | message detail | #210
brawlfear not here


Come on Altair

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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 10:16:29 PM | message detail | #211
What? I didn't have a problem at all with the cut scenes.

But meh, this isn't the place for this argument. To each his own.

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ToadYoshi | Posted 9/20/2008 10:17:50 PM | message detail | #212
Issac > Guybrush confirmed.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 10:23:02 PM | message detail | #213
Nah, the cutscenes were fine actually, and Drake was kind of a charismatic dude. More the problem I had was that it was like "why are we playing this" and then they're just like "dude this game is pretty cool" and the game isn't exactly the most flashy when you're not in cutscenes... more like *pop out from cover shoot shoot get shot duck behind cover pop out shoot shoot*.

Eh, and hey, talking about it keeps the topic bumped which increases readership it's not all bad!

On topic, surprised HM didn't hype this Altair pick more... and you know, he mentioned it as a joke but I wouldn't be surprised if he picked him because Snake had the Altair costume going on in MGS4. <_< Least we got that base covered, though. Thinkin that has a chance, not feeling the Isaac pick so we can take a risk.
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transience | Posted 9/20/2008 10:32:40 PM | message detail | #214
it's Al-tah...what? man he sounds worse by the day

screw him

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 11:03:00 PM | message detail | #215
Dammit why did I not redo my write-up this omen has been stalking me all day.

Assassin!
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transience | Posted 9/20/2008 11:05:12 PM | message detail | #216
hahahaha

I am *loving* this. at least I've made a case for everyone that's beaten me, sans Duke.

fortunately everyone's beaten me
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/20/2008 11:07:32 PM | message detail | #217
Give me a minute to pick my jaw up off the floor.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/20/2008 11:08:28 PM | message detail | #218
Another solid call by HM! And earlier I said he was throwing away his Zack > Wario pick.

LOL Analysis Crew.
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NotTerrafire | Posted 9/20/2008 11:08:33 PM | message detail | #219
ugh

right, i'm going to sleep now
lucario, you better damn wake up before i do
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 11:22:45 PM | message detail | #220
Haha, this contest is terrific.

Go Altair!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 11:22:46 PM | message detail | #221
nice job guys

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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 11:23:16 PM | message detail | #222
thank you, thank you

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let's mosey
vcharon | Posted 9/20/2008 11:33:56 PM | message detail | #223
I have to say I am thoroughly confused by this contest. Altair is destroying, Niko failed... something is odd about that. Misjudging the "casual fans" is something that has obviously happened.
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transience | Posted 9/20/2008 11:34:50 PM | message detail | #224
let's give it up for HM. sure, he picked Zack because he's obsessed, and he picked Altair because he hates Pokemon, but hey, it worked!
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 11:35:27 PM | message detail | #225
Yeah, as I touched on, I thought for sure Niko would fare better than Altair.

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YoboD | Posted 9/20/2008 11:37:29 PM | message detail | #226
Please don't pick Luigi> Liquid tomorrow guys, I don't think my bracket can take much more.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 11:38:12 PM | message detail | #227
Oh God, Roxas is finishing 2nd tomorrow....

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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 11:39:31 PM | message detail | #228
let's give it up for HM. sure, he picked Zack because he's obsessed, and he picked Altair because he hates Pokemon, but hey, it worked!

there's a lesson to be learned here -- biased analysis pays !

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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 11:40:43 PM | message detail | #229
If only I were more biased, I would have put Altair first!

You know, come to think of it, I think my favorites bracket will be ahead of my real bracket after today....

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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2008 11:43:01 PM | message detail | #230
Nope, my real bracket is still ahead by a point after flipping Link/Shadow, and I randomly picked Guybrush for second today because I don't give a damn about either of those 3 but he seems the funniest.

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 11:45:55 PM | message detail | #231
My favorites bracket would definitely be ahead of my real bracket at this point, if I'd remembered to make one. 2 for Altair, 2 for Duke, 2 for Zidane > Link, 1 for Zack. Yes, my real bracket only has 6 points right now I am amazing.
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Steiner | Posted 9/20/2008 11:50:11 PM | message detail | #232
<_< who picked this analysis crew
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Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 9/20/2008 11:52:07 PM | message detail | #233
My favourite bracket is beating my prize bracket. 2 points for Jade > Wario, 1 for Luke > Link, and 4 for Marth > Duke.

Yup I have 6 points.
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Applekidjosh | Posted 9/20/2008 11:58:50 PM | message detail | #234
this "analysis" crew is like a comedy topic

new analysis contest is who can be the most wrong go go go
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smitelf | Posted 9/21/2008 12:00:28 AM | message detail | #235
FACT: The analysis crew's streak of losses is now equal to Gordon Freeman's pre-Phoenix. ACNW.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 12:01:08 AM | message detail | #236
Justin's gotten more correct predictions than an analysis crew. I'm starting to lose faith in their credibility :O
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transience | Posted 9/21/2008 12:01:37 AM | message detail | #237
Roxas > Sho let's do this
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Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 12:05:31 AM | message detail | #238
We're still endin higher than you, punks! Take your 2 point leads because you failed slightly less than we did... we'll be back!
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/21/2008 12:10:30 AM | message detail | #239
Roxas > Sho let's do this

Now we're talking. Eat it, Luigi...!
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GTM | Posted 9/21/2008 1:02:59 AM | message detail | #240
This topic is awesome and the analysis crew should feel awesome
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Tatl | Posted 9/21/2008 1:09:10 AM | message detail | #241
Guys, I want you to do me a favor...

Pick Cloud > Mewtwo in the next round... That way, Midna will advance.


8 points... That's the best I can hope for after 4 matches...


Great contest this year.
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Tatl | Posted 9/21/2008 1:16:21 AM | message detail | #242
Lol

I just checked my joke bracket...

As long as Altair/Lucario both advance, the score will be 10 (12 if Lucario takes first.)

My serious bracket will have 8 points if they both advance (10 if Lucario takes first.)

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<_<
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It's funny and sad at the same time.
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RaeSaraneth | Posted 9/21/2008 1:34:32 AM | message detail | #243
Pft, I got it again ^_^ I hope.. I have Altair>Lucario, but Lucario and Isaac are realllly close right now, for some reason. And tomorrow, I'm hoping for ah... let me check. I have no idea, because my second place is wrong for the next match :( But hey, I've still got 7 points.. better than nothing :D
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 9/21/2008 1:49:41 AM | message detail | #244
Lol at the crew... still think Altair won't make it to round 3?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:50:46 AM | message detail | #245
Who's ready for some Raiden > Master Chief in 2 weeks.
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vcharon | Posted 9/21/2008 3:30:53 AM | message detail | #246
From: KleenexTissue50 | Posted: 9/21/2008 2:50:46 AM | Message Detail
Who's ready for some Raiden > Master Chief in 2 weeks.


Let's do this for sure.


A little late to complain about this, but whoever submitted naked Kefka should be tarred and feathered. He doesn't need help to do any worse... maybe I should face the fact he just doesn't have anything left to offer in this contest.

Speaking of pics... less than 20 hours before Liquid Fail ruins my bracket further.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/21/2008 10:38:32 AM | message detail | #247
curse you ANALYSIS CREW
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2008 12:35:10 PM | message detail | #248
Duke Nukem................26.35% 35984
Kefka..............................21.51% 29384
Marth..............................29.49% 40275
Niko Bellic.....................22.65% 30935
TOTAL VOTES..........................136578

What Happened - Everyone thought this match would be crazy since the day the brackets came out. Well, when we opened up with every character near 25%, we saw that it indeed would be a crazy match. Marth was the first to pull away, but then out of nowhere, Duke tore through Kefka's board vote and passed him up. Duke then made a chase for Marth, while Niko fought to pass up Kefka as the clown quickly fell after the board vote. In the dead hours, Duke actually passed up Marth. This is crazy.

By time morning hit, Niko passed up Kefka, finally, but Duke was far out of sight. Marth wavedashed away from Duke with the kiddies and this match was done.


Why it Happened - Yeah, most of us were wrong, but this was one of the hardest R1 matches to call, and we all admitted that anything could happen here. Niko ended up where most expected in relation to Kefka, which is slightly above him. Marth ended up where most expected, which is slightly ahead of the rest of the pack.

The big surprise here is Duke. Last year, he won his fourpack, but most people thought Marth/Kefka/Niko would be stronger than Gordon/Ike/Guybrush. I mean, this time we had not only Nintendo and Square, but also opponents that casuals would actually know. Throw that in with his poor Round 2 performance, and Kefka holding up better in Round 2 despite being with Cloud, and statistically Duke was out of this.

Well, stats and this contest don't mix apparently. I don't believe this is a Duke Boost. It seems more like voters just didn't care for the opposition and Duke was looking like a great option next to them. With Marth doing as expected, this just looks to be us overestimating Kefka and GTA, which is something we've all fell victim to before.


What Will Happen - Marth and Duke in Round 2, eh? Well, Duke's Round 2 opponents aren't that much greater than his Round 1 ones. Lucario and Marth may split, allowing him into Round 3...Duke in Round 3 that is crazy.



Crew Prediction Challenge - We had Marth > Kefka and Marth > Niko, but not Marth > Duke, augh

Guest (KP) - 1
HM - 1
Moltar - 0
Yoblazer - 0
Lopen - 0
Tran - 0
Ngamer - 0



Crew Accuracy Challenge - Yo gets the point for Marth, Ngamer gets the point for Niko, Tran gets the point for Kefka and Lopen gets the point for Duke

Guest (War, KP (2)) - 3
Lopen - 3
HM - 2
Yoblazer - 2
Ngamer - 2
Tran - 1
Moltar - 0
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2008 8:40:04 PM | message detail | #249
Division 2: Round 1 - Match 5 – Liquid Snake vs. Luigi vs. Roxas vs. Sho Minamimoto

Moltar’s Analysis

Liquid
Game/Series Known From: Metal Gear Solid
2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1 vs. Alucard, Ness and Zidane
4th Place in Round 2 vs. Master Chief, Yuna and Alucard

Mr. Arm is back!

Luigi
Game/Series Known From: Super Mario
2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1 vs. Mudkip, Pit and Tingle
2nd Place in Round 2 vs. Ganondorf, Mudkip and Vergil
2nd Place in Round 3 vs. Master Chief, Ganondorf and Yuna
3rd Place in Round 4 vs. Master Chief, Dante and Pikachu

Brawl Character #5, Will this be yet another great year for the man in green?

Roxas
Game/Series Known From: Kingdom Hearts
2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1 vs. Ryu H., Riku and Haseo

Roxas…what kind of a name is that? It’s like you rearranged some other name and got it.

Sho
Game/Series Known From: The World Ends With You
2007 Results: N/A

A non-Final Fantasy Square character? what is this I don’t even

Well, here’s an (hopefully) easy match. Luigi is a good jump above everyone else here, and his great showing last year, even in the face of SFF, gives me no reason to doubt a first place finish for him.

Liquid is the strongest candidate for second place. He’s was an odd character last year. He won his Round 1 match in a last-minute rush, and then got crushed in Round 2. Then again, he had Master Chief and Yuna to worry about, while here it’s just Roxas and Sho. Plus, Liquid has also had GotY MGS4, so a boost for him is likely.

Speaking of Roxas, he may have had a chance here if another Square character wasn’t here with him. Roxas didn’t do too badly last year, getting 17% with Riku, a more popular character in the same game as him, in the poll. We’ve seen the KH fanbase get behind Kairi of all people, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Roxas puts up a decent fight.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Luigi > Liquid

Moltar’s Prediction is: Luigi: 42% - Liquid: 26% - Roxas: 22% - Sho: 10%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Who's ready for some CREWFEAR

Well, this contest has been something. I've nailed 2/4 matches so far, almost had one, and messed up the other hard (damn you duke nukem). Division 1 is just a mess. Division 2 should be normal, but who's to say. You'd figure this match would be the first one that goes to expectations, but I have a bad feeling about Roxas here. Liquid should take this for the simple fact that it's a Metal Gear kinda year, what with MGS4. But you never know -- and I have a feeling the Crew is going unanimously in Liquid's favor this has worked for me before don't let me down now

Roxas isn't as big a stretch here as it might seem, though. Last year he got 17% with Riku hanging around. If nothing else that speaks to the fact that Roxas has a sizable amount of the KH fanbase supporting him, even against the more popular characters in the series. If you take Riku out of the poll, Roxas would probably have benefited tremendously. More than likely it's still not enough to beat Hayabusa, but he'd get surprisingly close, I think. The question is whether or not Hayabusa or Liquid is stronger. That's a tough one.

But Liquid's got MGS4 in his favor this year. It's probably one of the few games in recent memory to have lived up to its crazy hype (9.5 user rating with something 3,000 voters). Despite how questionable the "Brawl boost" may be this year, MGS4 should be big for the Metal Gear guys. There's an argument to be had that Liquid is there only in name, but you'd expect all Metal Gear characters to benefit across the board just from increased awareness.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2008 8:40:47 PM | message detail | #250
But if MGS4 doesn't help Liquid things could get rough. He does have the fact that he looked decent last year in round 1 (though a terrible showing in round 2 doesn't inspire confidence) and with Sho in the poll, Roxas could be hurt a bit, maybe not a lot but a few points could hurt Roxas' chances at an upset (Haseo LFF last year who wants some of this). I can't shake the feeling that Roxas is going to impress here. It might be because of how the past few days have gone mixed with CREWFEAR (what an awesome term). Who knows.

Either way, this'll be good to watch to see how Liquid performs. If he does well, it should say good things about the other Metal Gear guys; if he doesn't do so well, it's probably a good bet that not everything MGS-related will boost. I'm figurin' it'll be the former here, though. It's probably a bad idea to take Roxas here but oh well at least I win something right (here comes Liquid over Luigi to screw with everything) !
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Prediction: Luigi - 39% ; Roxas - 26% ; Liquid - 25% ; Sho - 10%
Bracket: Luigi > Liquid
Vote: Liquid Snake



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Four matches, four upsets. As this hurricane of a bracket tosses our boat around with no sign of ease or compassion, we may as well stop fighting and let it direct us to whichever little island it chooses. Hey, even Gilligan wound up with Ginger and Mary Ann, so maybe good things are in store yet! Regardless, and as big a joke as this sounds after the past four days, I'm feeling pretty good about this one! Promise! Time to finally get four points, baby!

Today's friendly tussle is between superior bro Luigi, inferior bro Liquid, make-believe-kinda-in-a-weird-way-bro Roxas, and Sho Minamimoto-bro. Unpredictability be damned, everyone knows Luigi will run away with this. Yes, the "poll's only Nintendo option" has already flatlined twice, but Luigi is different. Apart from Link, the Mean Green Machine is the most successful, battle-tested entrant we've seen yet. After laying eggs against Squall and Yoshi years ago, Luigi has been on an absolute tear, overperforming and pulling surprise wins on a regular basis. His trio of opponents are nothing compared to the quality of guys he's bested over the years, so he'll make easy work of them.

Where Luigi represents one extreme, Sho Minamimoto represents another. Once again, randomness and surprise can take a damned hike, because Sho will be pulling the ass end of this poll. He is this quartet's Jade, Luke, and Guybrush. Sho's debut handheld game, The World Ends with You, may have secured him a niche fanbase, but it simply isn't significant enough to contend with these three heavier hitters.

Now, the main event - the MEAT, if ya will. The battle for second between Liquid Snake and Roxas was always somewhat debated, and while Liquid had maintained his status as the clear favorite, the last four days of wackiness have cast a new shadow of doubt on this match. Will Liquid finally pull through and give us that first predictable result, or will Roxas send yet another swift kick to our collective junk? My money's on Liquid (which of course means he will fail us hahaha).

I'll be the first to admit that Roxas showed signs of life in his 2007 debut; the way he didn't fold in the face of Riku's SFF was pretty impressive. However, he is still largely untested and still a veritable unknown. Liquid Snake, while often producing contest results as erratic as his personality, has demonstrated that he has a devoted core fanbase. This was especially clear in his Round 1 match last year, when his most hardcore fans rallied him to an unforgettable, last second win over very respectable competition in Alucard. Roxas simply can't compete with that, but maybe he can compete with the Liquid that bombed in the very next match.
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