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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3

Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2007 9:32:49 PM | message detail | #101
Then there's everybody's favorite half-demon badass. Awwwww yeah. (Wonder why satai took this match…) Dante's the clear winner here, it's really just a matter of how many of his votes Ada will eat. How much will she affect Dante's performance? A bit, perhaps, but she's not even Leon Kennedy, let alone someone Dante should fear. He should be able to cruise to another comfortable first place. And when I say "cruise to another comfortable first place," I mean "pound in the faces of everyone who gets in his way and even some who don't, because he's just that freaking awesome." Especially since they used his DMC3 picture instead of the terrible DMC2 one. Woohoo!

Now then. The interesting part! Ada looked pretty good last round, despite being up against a Final Fantasy protagonist (lol Vaan). She's got potential to take a lot of the casual vote here—she's got the "hot chick" factor, the "multiple platform" factor, and the "RE4 is really really popular" factor. Arguably she'll take a lot of the Nintendo vote, having the only game here that appeared on a Nintendo console. When I first looked at the match, I took her for second and was prepared not to look back. Then again…

Balthier performed kind of pathetically last round compared to expectations. In retrospect, FF12 wasn't very widely liked in comparison with its fellow FF games, and it's almost impressive how many people didn't bother to finish it despite the huge amount of hype that accompanied its release. That said, Balthier himself was one of the highlights of the game for anyone who did bother to play it, and there's no question that he's its most popular character.

"But satai," you say, "you already made Ada sound like the obvious second place winner!" Yeah, I did. She's got a lot going for her. But with Dante around, I think she'll be the victim of a little "Capcom action game with guns SFF" or "DMC/RE QXGJPFF" or whatever they're calling these things these days. Being the only RPG character and a Square one to boot, if Balthier plays his cards right (and what pirate worth his salt doesn't play a good hand of poker?) he should be able to capitalize just enough on this to squeak past into second place.

Ada Wong? More like Ada Wrong! >_>

…sorry. Flashbacks to last year. Won't happen again, I swear.

Satai's vote: gosh i dunno let's see who shou—DANTE, SON OF
SPARDA.

Satai's prediction:
Dante – 43.42%
Amaterasu – 14.02%
Ada Wong – 21.23%
Balthier Bunansa – 21.33% whoa upset



Crew Consensus: Even after the loss last round, we're thinking Balthier takes second and Dante takes first.
Midget_Fetish | Posted 10/14/2007 9:35:43 PM | message detail | #102
crew in denial good to see
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transience | Posted 10/14/2007 9:59:08 PM | message detail | #103
did you not get my writeup?
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SERIOUS REMINDER: vote for Vivi.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/14/2007 9:59:40 PM | message detail | #104
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis:

Alright, I was fairly confident in my Ada > Balthier pick in the first round, but I'm not so sure now. Dante could leech a good deal of votes from Ada.

Balthier does have the Final Fantasy vote, but then again, it doesn't seem like Balthier is all that popular among the FF fans, so they could put his vote elsewhere, i.e. a popular PS2 character in Dante.

While Ada didn't blow Balthier out, there's still a bit of difference there that Balthier has to make up. I'm not as confident as I'd like to be, but I'll stick with my bracket.

As for Amaterasu, she could impress again, but I just don't think she'll be able to make it to 2nd.

DpOblivion's bracket says: Dante > Ada

DpOblivion's prediction is: Dante > Ada

Confidence Rating: 55%

Dante - 39%
Ada Wong - 23%
Balthier - 22%
Amaterasu - 16%


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transience | Posted 10/14/2007 9:59:52 PM | message detail | #105
eh, if not:

transience's "thirty seconds before the match!" analysis

a match -- no, a fourpack (sixteenpack?) that should have been obvious has turned out pretty unexpected so far. Dante and Balthier were supposed to be the easy 1-2, but then Ada was like "No,"

how bad did Balthier bomb? well, it's tough to say. no matter how poorly received FF12 was, a ton of people played it and Balthier seemed quite popular. Ada has to have boosted, because otherwise Balthier looks like absolute crap. I have no problem with Balthier bombing compared to expectations, but there's a limit on how low I'm willing to go. I don't think Balthier's chilling down at Kuja level. nope. Ada's match suggests that Zidane would destroy him. I could see him losing, but.. uh...

anyway. Ada's fanbase, if you can call it that, seemed to utterly abandon her when she went up against a well-known character in Samus. Dante seems like another guy that Ada voters would abandon her for -- he's got the whole "badass" thing going on and he's far more iconic. I dunno if I'd call it "SFF", but it's.. something. I think there's overlap there - not a ton, but enough to get her voters to say "uh, no." just look at Liquid Snake today. a few weeks ago, he was beating Alucard, but with possible overlap from FF10, he's losing by like 9000 votes to Alucard. Balthier may have bombed, but I like his fanbase to actually stick by him. sure, he's on the same system as Dante, but he's a totally different style of character and from a different genre.

(plus, Ada advancing ruins a great match -- Dante/Leon. she needs to lose in order to preserve what is a great one-on-one match.)

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i am busy and don't have
time to think of one

transience's prediction: Dante with 44.16%, Balthier with 21.55%, Ada with 19.84%, Amaterasu with 14.45%

can't believe the crew has Balthier
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Lugia2 | Posted 10/15/2007 6:00:43 AM | message detail | #106
I can't believe you guys screwed up again- en masse. Balthier is having fun in last, and I doubt he'll pull a Fenix this time...

I have Dante>Ada in my bracket, but I'd like Ammy too. WOOOO!!!

Wonder what happenened to KH?
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transience | Posted 10/15/2007 6:03:13 AM | message detail | #107
oh, ha.. I sent it to mastermoltar@yahoo.com! whoever that is is probably really, really confused right now.
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SERIOUS REMINDER: vote for Vivi.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 8:24:58 AM | message detail | #108
Master Chief....43.78% 64881
Yuna..................23.96% 35505
Liquid Snake...13.04% 19332
Alucard.............19.22% 28481
TOTAL VOTES.............148199

66.84% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
9.63% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

8.95% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
12.81% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew Predictions: Fully Correct - 30; Half Correct - 10; Barely Correct - 2

Chief dominates yet again, and this time over three decent characters. Finals confirmed?


Crew Prediction Challenge - Lopen breaks the Guest streak.

Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi, Luis, XII, l3fty, Gadds) - 9
Lopen - 7
HM - 6
Yoblazer - 6
KH - 4
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Lopen gets the point for MC, Moltar gets the point for Yuna, KH gets the point for Liquid and Yo gets the point for Alucard.

HM - 31
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "5", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2", Bio "2", Luis "2", XIII "2", l3fty, Gadds) - 31
Yoblazer - 30
Lopen - 23
Moltar - 21
Ulti - 20
Tran - 17
KH - 16
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Dante/Ammy/Ada/Balthier - Bracket: Dante > Balthier - Vote: Ammy (179/208)
Biolizard28 | Posted 10/15/2007 1:51:14 PM | message detail | #109
The crew got one thing right: Ada is struggling with Dante in the poll...

But you all forgot Balthier just sucks. Seriously, FFXII may have weaker characters than FFVI! I mean, Kefka is at least capable of winning a match.
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Undeniable | Posted 10/15/2007 7:18:52 PM | message detail | #110
So, can we say Ammy pulled a Knuckles? No support from anyone, comes from behind to struggle, then win comfortably.

lulz
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/15/2007 7:38:10 PM | message detail | #111
Or Balthier is Magus 2.0.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/15/2007 8:41:00 PM | message detail | #112
Just sent my writeup for Thursday's match
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 8:57:13 PM | message detail | #113
Division 6: Round 2 - Match 44 – Pikachu vs. Tidus vs. Leon Kennedy vs. Vivi

Moltar’s Analysis

Pikachu
Round 1 – 36.62% vs. Tidus, Issac and Serge

WHY GAMEFAQS?

Tidus
Round 1 – 31.84% vs. Pikachu, Isaac and Serge

Oh that’s why.

Leon
Round 1 – 40.13% vs. Vivi, Ridley and Spyro

Leon keeps looking better and better.

Vivi
Round 1 – 30.87% vs. Leon, Ridley and Spyro

The Black Mage doesn’t do too badly.

hey guys since some of your fellow gamefaqsians voted for pikachu as if they had a gun to their head, I know seriously have to consider him in this match thx guys

Leon’s Round 1 domination should leave people pretty confident in him to take first. Now the question is who takes second? Well, Vivi looked to be pretty safe a while back, but now…not so much.

POKEFEAR has ran through this Contest like the plague. Round 2 has been even more crazy for these things. Bidoof leading Vincent, Mudkip over Ganon and Luigi, crazy, crazy things that I thought were only possible in the dark place. Not many foresaw Pikachu taking first over Tidus on the board, and thanks to that, he’s in a good position to take second here.

Even worse for Vivi, the Mage now has to deal with Tidus in the same poll, and he’s all like “hay vivi im in ur poll, stealin ur voterz”. I mean, Bidoof’s and Mudkip’s chances to make Round 3 weren’t all that good, but Pikachu? He may be considered the favorite at this point. Pikachu doesn’t have the joke vote bombardment his pals got in the beginning, but he also won’t collapse like they did. Pikachu’s got actual fans on GameFAQs, but the thing is, so does Vivi.

I originally took Vivi in second because I figured that he’d be able to pound Tidus hard with SFF, and Pikachu will be a non-factor. Only thing that’s changed is that Pikachu is now a factor. I still think Tidus won’t hold up well in this poll, and lose a ton of ground thanks to Vivi. That should give him enough to grab second.

plllllllease voters choose well i has moniez.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Leon > Vivi

Moltar’s Prediction is: Leon: 36% - Vivi: 25% - Pikachu: 23% - Tidus: 16%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Pikachu finishing ahead of Tidus in the first round was a surprise, but both of those characters are so weak overall that Leon and Vivi essentially have a bye week here. And Leon and Vivi finished so far apart in the first round that the same thing should happen again here.

Not trying to be an ass and have a short writeup for the hell of it, but this one seems obvious enough. Now watch the Ulti Curse kick in and give us Leon > Pikachu or something.

Ulti's Prediction:
Leon [40.00%]
Vivi [30.00%]
Pikachu [17.00%]
Tidus [13.00%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Four Pokemon down, one to go!

Last round was pretty much a disaster, what with Pikachu beating out Tidus and Vivi not giving Leon the fight I was hoping he would. The only thing stopping Leon and Vivi from running away with this is the fact that Tidus is in the mix. We’ve seen how weird SFF can be when there’s two characters from the same fanbase in a poll, and despite how Vivi should clearly be the big beneficiary of SFF, there’s still a possibility they do something like split it, allowing for that Poketurd to advance.

But that’s basically all that Pikachu has going for it, I think. I wouldn’t even think twice about taking Vivi over Pikachu in this format under normal circumstances, and one-on-one it wouldn’t even be close. Although it is a bit suspect, Vivi held up pretty well against Sephiroth, all things considered. Tidus, on the other hand, pretty much got destroyed by Squall last year. Given that Vivi should be naturally the stronger character here, I don’t think it’s out of the question for Vivi to put on some hurt with SFF.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 8:57:50 PM | message detail | #114
I wouldn’t even look at this as a “FF9 character vs. FF10 main character” deal, either. Being Tidus isn’t a good thing on this site, apparently. The guy might only be a bit below Yuna and Rikku for crying out loud – time hasn’t been good to him. Vivi, on the other hand, is pretty much a representative of Final Fantasy. You don’t even have to really like Vivi himself in order to vote for him – the classic Black Mage design goes a long way, I think. That should help him out quite a bit in something like this.

As for Leon, I think he’s going to put up some good numbers here today. Dante’s putting up ~43% against Amaterasu, Ada Wong and Balthier. There’s no question that Leon’s got a much tougher pack, and if Leon can put up nearly 40% this round, I think he’d be a big favorite heading into the next match, especially with Ada Wong being eliminated today. He’s the strongest guy here and the most independent – he should impress.

But yeah, this match boils down to SFF. What happens there determines who advances, Vivi or Pikachu. And as much as I would like to see Tidus advance here, I think he’s pretty much guaranteed last. Gotta vote for Vivi, then!

Leon – 40%
Vivi – 24%
Pikachu – 21%
Tidus – 15%


Bracket: Leon > Vivi
Vote: Vivi


Yoblazer’s Analysis

Here's one of those matches that's special because, despite knowing it probably won't be exciting, you can't help but get all giddy when waiting for it. Well, at least I can't. Yes, I want Pikachu that dead. DIE YOU WORM!

The often imitated, never duplicated (and even more often quoted) Leon Scott Kennedy returns as the heavy favorite for the second round in a row. Leon would roast Pikachu and already handily defeated Vivi last round. This time around, Vivi will almost certainly be weakened by a fanbase split with Tidus, the RE4 hero is bound to look great.

We know Leon is going to get first; this is a given. We also know Tidus is going to get fourth. The amiable (well, he would be if he had a better voice actor, dammit) FFX protagonist already suffered a humiliating loss to Pikachu in Round 1. While most people attribute this loss mainly due to a fanbase split between the two other RPG guys sharing the poll, he's up against an even bigger RPG hog in Vivi this time around. Sadly, Tidus will come out of yet another contest looking like absolute crap. And I'm just starting to like him, too...

Of course, this leaves the main course for this match, Pikachu vs. Vivi. There isn't an experienced bracket maker in the world who wouldn't take Vivi over Pikachu in a straight match, but this format has proven time and time again that it doesn't give two poops about traditional matches. Pikachu ravaged Tidus in the first round, and now Vivi will be handicapped by that same Tidus in his bid to make it through another round. Will the handicap be enough to let the Pokemon slip by? It's very possible, but I still think Vivi will pull this one off. I have a feeling he's going to hurt Tidus pretty badly, and Pikachu will suffer himself, seeing as he's up against much more likable competition this time around.

Despite all that, your winner... and favorite going into the division finals.... MISTAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH..... KENNEEEEEDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

Leon Kennedy - 35%
Vivi Ornitier - 25%
Pikachu - 23%
Tidus - 17%



Lopen’s Analysis

So I saw this match... and I had to think to myself... Wakka vs Vivi: Pokemon battle.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 8:58:18 PM | message detail | #115
Vivi: Um... hi.
Wakka: The players fight with all their strength: the fans cheer for their favorite team. They forget pain, suffering... Only the game matters! That's why poke' has been around for so long. Least that's what I think.
Vivi: ... okay...
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/gameboy/Poketrainer.mid

WAKKA wants to fight!!
WAKKA sent out TIDUS!!

Vivi: Go, Pikachu!
VIVI sent out PIKACHU!!

PIKACHU used THUNDERSHOCK!
It's not very effective...

Tidus: I need fooood...
TIDUS used EAT!
It's super effective!!
PIKACHU fainted!!

Vivi: Umm... *searches for Pokeball... shrugs* go... me?

VIVI sent out VIVI!!
VIVI used SFF!
It's super effective!!
TIDUS fainted!!

Wakka: Man.. that was pretty low, ya?

... whaddaya mean that analysis doesn't make any sense?

Lopen's prediction:
Leon Kennedy - 35.05%
Master Vivi - 26.32%
Food - 23.68%
TIDUS - 14.95%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Annnnd after last night's little debacle of trying to send in my Crew writeup and failing miserably, I'm switching internet service providers. This message-that-you-don't-care-about-brought-to-you-by-Karma-btw-I-picked-Dante > Ada-so-it-doesn't-matter-Hunter


Pikachu

The lil' yellow rat finishes off the trifecta of Pokemon overperformances with easily dispatching of Tidus. Now he remains the one last hope for Pokemon to get to Round 3... kinda weirdly fitting, actually. And considering that instead of Link/Vincent and Ganondorf/Luigi to deal with, he has to merely beat out one of Leon/Vivi... yeah. Yeah yeah.

Tidus

The guy hasn't had an impressive performance since 2003, and he probably won't for the rest of his contest career. Today, he only serves to drain another so that they'll suffer the same ignominy as he's suffered.

Leon Kennedy

Establishing himself as a force in this contest/format and a legitimate threat to Dante in Round 3, Mr. Kennedy proved his worth and then some last round against his threepack. He's not in any danger here, even with PIKAFEAR looming, but he should keep his domination up if he hopes to upend Dante in the future.

Vivi Ornitier

The Black Mage we all know and love is gonna be fighting for his spot against the last of the Pokemon - and unlike last round, he's gonna have the draining of an FF lead weighing down on him. Sure, it's Tidus, who most probably wouldn't take against Yuna or even Rikku in direct matchups, but considering how comfortably Tidus got edged last round, Vivi is in serious trouble here.

Pikachu didn't have any trouble with Tidus last round, and the writing on the wall is here for this round's matchup. Yes, Tidus probably got hurt by Serge, and may even have come much closer if it hadn't been for him (those who even consider Isaac hurting Pikachu at all, let alone the same level, are delusional - Mewtwo, Bidoof, and Mudkip proved that even the heaviest of heavy-hitters probably didn't SFF Pokemon that much, and it's Isaac), but the same situation is here. Vivi is likely stronger than Tidus, but Tidus is stronger than Serge. Vivi would need to be a clear cut and then some above of Pikachu for me to have faith in him here, and last round's matchup didn't inspire that at all.

This should be an interesting learning experience for one of the only two legit Pokentries in this contest, and for Leon's chances against Dante, but not much more. Vivi winning would be cool, but so would have Tidus.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Vivi Ornitier. Hope springs eternal?
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Leon Kennedy with 35%, Pikachu with 27%, Vivi Ornitier with 24%, Tidus with 14%

And that's me being optimistic !!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 8:58:53 PM | message detail | #116
Upset Probability: 60%

Okay, yeah, I'm sounding pessimistic, but Vivi *can* win this, especially if Tidus doesn't drain him too much (-can- you drain BMF???) and if he is just a clear cut above Pikachu... again, not impossible if Tidus has just become a speck in the wind these days. However, this chance is a little misleading - it also accounts for a small chance of Pikachu > Leon Kennedy.

...which won't happen. I mean, it just can't. Right?

But ya gotta be sure...



Transience’s Analysis

let's do this.

Leon Kennedy

a lock for first place. the only purpose that Leon serves in this match is to see how he measures up against Dante's performance, and maaaaaaaybe to steal some votes from Pikachu since they're both technically Nintendo guys. that makes next to no sense though.

Vivi

Vivi oozes appeal with his character design, a design that is so appealing that people will vote for him despite not knowing who he is. he is, by far, the strongest FF9 character and one of the biggest fan-favourites the popular series has ever created. however, given FF9's relative popularity when compared to FF10, will Tidus significantly hinder the guy that is likely the second-strongest in this match?

Tidus

49% on Ganondorf, 35% on Mega Man, 42% on Kirby, 35% on Squall, and now a 6000 vote loss to Pikachu. (53.5-46.5 if you want to measure them straight-up). Tidus's fall from grace is well-documented, and every year it gets more and more embarrassing. you can make the argument that Serge and Isaac held him back in that Pikachu match, but Vivi will hurt him more than those two ever could. the main from the most popular RPG from the last generation looks like a lock to place fourth.

Pikachu

the beneficiary of the single luckiest bracket placement in my memory, and I'm not saying that because I hate him. three RPG characters, two of them from Square, in round 1. two Final Fantasy characters in round 2. Ada was dangerously close to advancing to round 3, giving Pikachu two Resident Evil 4 characters should be make round three. with Pokemon characters impressing left and right and the Square fanbase split, he has as good of a chance as anyone to advance.


let's start here by comparing Tidus and Vivi. Vivi seems more liked, but his fanbase is a lot smaller - it's like nobody on this site even played FF9 for whatever reason. (the same goes for FF12, apparently, despite it selling a million copies and not budging from the top 5 FAQs since the day it came out. who knows?) Vivi and Tidus looked like near-equals statistically prior to this contest. looking at their Square matchups, though, Tidus got 28% on Squall while Vivi got 30% on Sephiroth. to compare, Sephiroth scored 48% and 44% on Cloud while Squall scored 23%. Vivi's inter-company matchup was a ton better, and he has to be looked at as the favourite between those two. (not that anyone doubts this anymore after his bomb vs. Pikachu)

now, will Vivi be able to beat Pikachu with Tidus holding him down? I think Vivi (and Tidus) is straight-up stronger than Pikachu and would have no problem dispatching him one-on-one. I think Pikachu is fairly legit -- maybe at Ocelot's level or something -- but not enough to stand up to the Final Fantasy mascot. Pikachu is kind of a Pokemon mascot, but he has nothing on Vivi when it comes to visual appeal. a vote for Vivi is a vote for Final Fantasy, there's no denying that.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 8:59:19 PM | message detail | #117
but I think Tidus will hold him back too much for Vivi to advance here. we've seen several examples of characters being held back, and it's not like Vivi is THAT much stronger than Pikachu. Tidus being in the more popular game really hurts Vivi here, I think -- I could see tons of people voting Tidus over Vivi even if they're merely neutral on Tidus. this match is just about 50-50, but I'm siding with the yellow thing over the black mage.

black mage, yellow rat
Meg Ryan can't beat either
Leon crushes both

transience's prediction: Leon with 34.38%, Pikac--

you know what? screw it. I refuse to pick Pikachu over goddamn Vivi. suck it, yellow rat. I don't even hate you, but you're just no Vivi.

transience's prediction: Leon with 34.38%, Vivi with 24.41%, Pikachu with 24.23%, Tidus with 16.98%



Guest’s Analysis - Big Bob

Alright, honestly, I only picked this match to spite HM, who seems to have some kind of inexplicable hatred against the cute critters known as pokemon. However! This shall be Pikachu's day of glory! Well, sorta. He beat Tidus quite handily last round, but now the competition is a little tougher. I doubt Leon is in any trouble; he has little fanbase overlap with the others here, so he should comfortably secure first. Tidus already lost, so that leaves Pikachu and Vivi. 1-on-1, I MIGHT give Vivi the advantage, since anyone can plainly see him and know that a vote for him is a vote for Final Fantasy. However, with Tidus in the same poll sucking votes from him, I find it unlikely that he can withstand a yellow mouse being in the poll. I always saw Vivi and Tidus being rather close in strength anyway, and I don't buy any SFF in the last match. If Serge was sucking Tidus's votes, Isaac was sucking just as much from Pikachu; they're on the same system, at least. Pikachu also isn't going to have the same voting patterns as Bidoof or Mudkip; he's an icon, not a fad, so he's not going to be top heavy like the others. If he's winning at the start, he'll probably stay that way. Leon > Pikachu should be a comfortable pick, but even Leon should be wary in Round 3 when he's sharing a poll with Dante.

Leon - 32%
Pikachu - 28%
Vivi - 24%
Tidus - 16%



Crew Consensus: POKEFEAR, yeah, but Leon > Vivi baby.
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:00:45 PM | message detail | #118
Why is Leon the favourite, yo?
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Lugia2 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:10:59 PM | message detail | #119
My bracket screwed up here (Tidus > Leon anyone?) so I'm just watching. The heck? I thought Poke-hate was dead! I mean, I prefer Vivi too, but...
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 9:14:44 PM | message detail | #120
Because Leon is awesome, yo.
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Leon/Vivi/Pikachu/Tidus - Bracket: Leon > Vivi - Vote: Leon (183/216)
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:33:28 PM | message detail | #121
That logic falls to pieces when his opponent is Dante Mother ****ing Sparda.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/15/2007 9:50:11 PM | message detail | #122
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis:

Okay, I don't know what to think now....I think I royally screwed myself here picking Leon > Vivi, and confirmed that scanning through the Oracle topic, then I come here and majority still has Leon > Vivi? Ugh, I can't take much more of this contest anymore!

Okay....I lied....I don't have Leon > Vivi in my bracket. I actually have Leon > Tidus. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I have Leon > Vivi on my smarter alt bracket though.

So, how can Vivi take 2nd here? Well, I basically just randomly assigned numbers here, not giving too much thought because I'm frustrated, but....I gave Final Fantasy 40%, Pikachu 25%, leaving 35% for Leon. So it comes down to the SFF battle between Vivi and Tidus.

I think it will be fairly close between the two, which is probably the reason for my differences in brackets. Tidus doesn't seem to have much more popularity, but he's from a more popular game (I think?), and after all, Vivi is just a black mage (*hears screams of "Just a black mage?!!!*). I think Vivi should be able to take it over Tidus though, but by how much?

But Pokemon has put serious fear in my mind, and I just can't help shake the feeling that he'll take 2nd here.

DpOblivion's bracket says: Leon > Tidus (whoops)

Confidence Rating: 10%

DpOblivion's smarter alt's bracket says: Leon > Vivi

Confidence Rating: 35%

DpOblivion's prediction is: Leon > Pikachu

Confidence Rating: 45%

Leon - 35%
Pikachu - 25%
Vivi - 22%
Tidus - 18%


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DpObliVion | Posted 10/15/2007 9:57:39 PM | message detail | #123
New prediction, although I missed the deadline for changes in the Oracle....

Leon - 33%
Pikachu - 27%
Vivi - 24%
Tidus - 16%

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/15/2007 10:19:11 PM | message detail | #124
Now watch the Ulti Curse kick in and give us Leon > Pikachu or something.

OMFG called it.

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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 10/16/2007 7:01:48 AM | message detail | #125
Two days in a row crew!
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SteveVoster | Posted 10/16/2007 7:05:24 AM | message detail | #126
i dont wanna seem like a n00b or anything but is Jill Valentine still in the character battle? Jill Valentine from Resident Evil? shes my favorite...
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/16/2007 7:06:36 AM | message detail | #127
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Big Bob | Posted 10/16/2007 5:17:05 PM | message detail | #128
How are points determined again? By the two winners or by all four? I don't want to lose just because my guess was ridiculously close to KH's...
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2007 8:28:22 PM | message detail | #129
Dante.......................43.41% 53240
Amaterasu..............20.83% 25540
Ada Wong...............19.41% 23800
Balthier Bunansa..16.35% 20051
TOTAL VOTES....................122631

74.76% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
3.89% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

9.15% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
5.49% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew Predictions: Fully Correct - 30; Half Correct - 11; Barely Correct - 2

Ada and Balthier both mega-chumps? Ammy being somewhat legit? Looks like that to me! Dante and Ammy advance together again.


Crew Prediction Challenge - No one had Dante > Ammy =(

Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi, Luis, XII, l3fty, Gadds) - 9
Lopen - 7
HM - 6
Yoblazer - 6
KH - 4
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Guest gets the point for Dante, Ulti gets the point for Balthier, Moltar gets the point for Ada and Yo gets the point for Amaterasu

Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "5", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "3", Bio "2", Luis "2", XIII "2", l3fty, Gadds) - 32
HM - 31
Yoblazer - 31
Lopen - 23
Moltar - 22
Ulti - 21
Tran - 17
KH - 16
Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2007 9:27:03 PM | message detail | #130
Division 7: Round 2 - Match 45 – Kirby vs. L-Block vs. Kratos vs. Donkey Kong

Moltar’s Analysis

Kirby
Round 1 – 44.39% vs. L-Block, Laharl and Nathan

Go Kirby!

L-Block
Round 1 – 30.89% vs. Kirby, Laharl and Nathan

Go…wait L-Block won?!

Kratos
Round 1 – 40.13% vs. DK, Marth and Prince of all Cosmos

Had no problems with his group.

DK
Round 1 – 27.66% vs. Kratos, Marth and Prince of all Cosmos

…At least he didn’t lose to Marth!

In the wake of the events of last round, I managed to snag an exclusive interview with the one thing that managed to shock the world last round. He’s the man, the myth, the Tetris Block.

Moltar: Welcome to the Analysis Crew Interview L-Block. It’s a pleasure to have you on.

L-Block: Thanks Moltar, it’s an honor to be here.

Moltar: First, I got to say congratulations to making it to Round 2. Not only did you beat out Laharl, but you got over 30% of the vote with Kirby in the poll. That’s quite an achievement.

L-Block: You know, I’m kind of surprised myself. I mean, all I heard before the match was “L-Block’s not a character, no one will vote for a Tetris piece.” That really hurt me. Just because I’m a Tetris piece doesn’t mean I have feelings? All the different Tetris pieces are characters. We all have our stories to tell and our trials to overcome. I’m just glad that the voters realized that I am a character, and came out to support me in large numbers.

Moltar: What do you have to say to those who are saying that you only advanced due to weak competition, and that you stand no chance with Kratos and DK in the poll.

L-Block: Well, I have to say it’s going to be tougher this time around. Kirby, Kratos, DK, all big names. I’m just hoping my perfomance last round stays in the voters’ minds, because I don’t plan on lying down this round.

Moltar: Any last words you want to say?

L-Block: Just a word to the fans. Thanks for all your support so far. I really appreciate the push you gave me last round, and hoping that I get the same backing this round. Doing well in this Contest is a must to me, because I have a family to support, and they’re banking on me to keep food on the table.

Moltar: …you have a family?

L-Block: Of course. A loving wife, and two kids, a boy and girl.

Moltar: …you have a GENDER? You can have children?! HOW?!?!

L-Block: …I’m quite offended now. Just because I am a Tetris piece doesn’t mean I can’t do the same things humans can do. Same for the other blocks, Square Block, T-Block, I-Block, Z-Block…

Moltar: Well, that concludes our Interview.

Kratos: I will now proceed to find out if Tetris Piece bleed like humans do!

So, I have Kratos > Kirby here. Kirby doesn’t take first due to a bit of a split with DK. Nothing as bad as Vivi/Tidus today, but enough to hurt Kirby enough. I also don’t think L-Block holds up as well here thanks to three big names as opposed to one.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Kratos > Kirby

Moltar’s Prediction is: Kratos: 33% - Kirby: 27% - DK: 20% - L-Block: 20%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

L-Block advancing was badass as all hell, but he'll probably succumb to all of the Nintendo power here. But not before massive joke votes give him a Bidoof-like run for a little while. He may very well be in 1st or second place for an hour or two before running out of gas.

Kratos and Kirby are the picks to advance here, because DK is a choke artist and no Nintendo fan will allow DK to not be on the ass end of Nintendo SFF. As for who takes first place, it should be damn close. Kratos and Kirby put up very similar numbers in their first round matches, and both will make huge day vote pushes.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2007 9:27:24 PM | message detail | #131
HOWEVAAAAH, there's the Golden Rule: "When in doubt, go with Nintendo".

Ulti's Prediction:
Kirby [38.00%]
Kratos [37.00%]
L-Block [18.00%]
Donkey Kong [7.00%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

So now that we’re finally through with the Pokemon for a while, it’s time for some quality joke characters to rock a match! Despite picking L-Block to advance into this round, I had no idea the thing would actually have somewhat legitimate strength. Sure, everyone knows the L-Block, but man… that was crazy. Seems to be the nature of these contests, though – joke characters dominate.

After seeing Pikachu slip by today due to SFF (or LFF, whatever), I’m thinking the ol’ Block might be able to pull out something here. I’d imagine most people are figuring Kirby’s safe, but I wouldn’t be so sure with Donkey Kong there. We’ve seen time and again throughout this contest that SFF can prevent you from advancing even when you’re the stronger character. I think we’re going to see that in action again here today. No way do I even think about taking L-Block over any of these guys one-on-one, but when they’re vulnerable? Maybe. L-Block for round 4? Who knows!

Kratos should have a good match here, though. He’s the most independent of this group, and I’d consider him the strongest, too. I figure this’ll be kinda similar to how today went – sub in Kratos for Leon, L-Block for Pikachu. The match should be great to see when it starts, but this one should be over one way or another before the hour is up.

(woohoo go block)

Kratos – 33%
L-Block – 24%
Kirby – 23%
Donkey Kong – 20%


Bracket: Kratos > Kirby
Vote: I AM THE GOD OF WAR


Yoblazer’s Analysis

I have no idea whether to put L-Block in first, second, or third. I really don't. In Round 1, he lost to Kirby by a very wide margin, but he was still one of the round's star performers, obliterating all expectation and actually leading for a while. It was amazing, and I'm hoping we see even more awesomeness tonight.

In addition to Kirby and the greatest joke entrant we've ever seen, this match also features Kratos (God of War) and Donkey Kong. With DK in the poll, Kirby should look noticeably weaker. The two share the same company, console(s), and series in Smash Bros., so there should be a significant overlap there. This gives the up-and-coming Kratos just the boost he needs to win, and yes, I do consider him to be the clear favorite today.

The big X-Factor, of course, is the L-shaped Tetris block. Call me crazy, but I have no problem seeing it finish in the top two. Kirby will already enter the poll in a disadvantageous fanbase split, and DK and Kratos seem like two very favorable opponents for the great blocks. DK is a huge choker, and Kratos is too new for me to believe that he won't lose votes to the greatest, most awesomest joke character ever. L-Block was able to stand toe-to-toe with Kirby for the first 20 minutes of his inaugural match before falling behind. Don't be surprised if he gets off to an even better start this time around. I don't see anyone in his competition that can put him away early.

And what of the results? God, I want to have L-Block in the top two so badly, but I just don't think he has that type of pop. In a perfect world, I'd be wrong and the big L would ride this seemingly favorable competition to a spectacular victory. It ain't a perfect world, but I still see him putting up a great fight.

Kratos - 29%
Kirby - 28%
L-Block - 27%
Donkey Kong - 16%



Lopen’s Analysis

Sorry, to go Ulti style on this one but I'm incredibly busy now. Anyway... I've got Kratos > Kirby here. I figure the SFF split between Kirb and DK would drag Kirb into second. Though looking at round 1 I'm not positive Kratos needs the split anymore. L-Block should hold up pretty well, better than DK.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2007 9:28:12 PM | message detail | #132
And by the way: This match seems pretty obvious. Kratos > Kirby is a total lock.

Lopen's prediction:
Kratos - 29.92%
Kirby - 28.08% <(v_v)> (Kirby is sad.. I'm sorry, you deserved a better write up than this!)
L-Block - 23.08%
DK - 18.92%



Transience’s Analysis

of all the Guru picks pre-contest that made no sense to me, Kirby > Kratos was the biggest one. I'm guessing it's because no one was willing to give Kratos his due because he'd never won a match before, but Kratos/Kirby straight-up was already highly debatable. throw in Donkey Kong to suck Kirby's votes away and the answer is obvious -- Kratos takes first place. there's no debate here.

Kirby/Donkey Kong is easy enough, too. Donkey Kong reminds me of a mini-Bowser. same trends, same level if iconic-ness, big and fat, likable while not really being anybody's favourite character. DK's got the tie though, which is better than the spikes. Kirby did absolutely fantastic against Bowser in 2005, and I see no reason why he would struggle to beat DK. that guy seems to be at the bottom of the Nintendo totem pole. Marth gave him a decent match, and I'm sure people like Kirby more.

then there's old L. within about 27 seconds, L-Block went from being in a debated match with friggin' Laharl to his chances in round 2.. 3... even 4. thanks to one of the great early votes of all time, L held the lead over Kirby for the first five minutes, lost it and then inexplicably took it back a couple of updates later. he bled pretty hard throughout the day, but still managed to pull 30% in a poll with Kirby.

from what we've seen, "joke characters" are the least likely to suffer from other entrants in the poll. given that Kirby is going to be nerfed thanks to DK, can L-Block pull it off? this is basically a repeat of the Mudkip match a few days ago, only L pulled a higher percentage and Kirby/DK are weaker than Luigi/Ganondorf. oh, and Kratos will hurt the Nintendo guys more than the block. add in all these, and I'm taking the block!

L-block is shaped like
a boot to kick your ass. it
will beat that dum ball.

transience's prediction: Kratos with 32.68%, L-Block with 25.44%, Kirby with 23.99%, Donkey Kong with 17.89%



Guest’s Analysis - Biolizard28

Let's all take a moment to point and laugh at me for picking DK>Marth and then Kirby>Marth. Laugh at my FE love! Finished? Good.

Kirby and Kratos are the clear favorites to move on here, though the order is up in the air. On the one hand, we just saw Kratos tear through a 4-pack of decent opponents, excluding the Prince, while Kirby allowed L-Block to double Laharl. I honestly don't know how that happened. L-Block was moving on, no question, but a doubling? I don't know if it was joke votes or serious, but L-Block looked pretty impressive. But I don't buy it. His two opponents were absolute fodder, and he was bound to come out looking like a winner. He should take a comfortable last. But enough about him.

Donkey Kong is completely screwed, with Kirby draining (or rather, sucking) any Nintendo votes away. Will DK's share be enough to bring Kirby down? Who knows? With Kratos taking the casual and "mature" votes, Kratos>Kirby looks pretty sexy right now. But I'm putting my money on Kirby. And after watching the craziness of Round 2 thus far, can you blame me for counting on a reasonable upset?

Bio's Bracket Says: Kirby>Marth YOU SIMPLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS LOVE
Bio's Prediction: Kirby - 35%, Kratos - 32%, L-Block - 15%. DK - 18%
Bio's Vote: that dum pink ball




Crew Consensus: 3 for Kratos > Kirby, 2 each for Kirby > Kratos and Kratos > L-Block
ejm5446 | Posted 10/16/2007 9:33:32 PM | message detail | #133
So a total of 9.38% for Amaterasu. I believe the all time low for a correct percentage is 6.04%, for Cloud winning the second contest.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 9:33:42 PM | message detail | #134
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/16/2007 9:35:49 PM | message detail | #135
DpOblivion's Unofficial Supposedly-Quick-But-Apparently-Not Analysis

Let's pretend for a minute that I didn't make a bracket.

Okay, fine. I don't know what the hell I was thinking for this match. I've made some dumb picks on my bracket, but this pick was by far the dumbest and most thoughtless of them all. Okay, the first round, I underestimated Kratos' strength, and downplayed Marth effectively SFFing Donkey Kong

But for the 2nd round....it's like I completely dismissed Kirby. Not only is Kirby considered stronger than Donkey Kong, and I should've known that, but those two should SFF the hell out of each other, giving Kratos an easy win, even if I was still underestimating his strength.

So, I'm most likely getting only 2 points in this match, and I deserve it. I wasn't even going for a crazy upset here, I just......I don't even know. I really don't know what I was thinking when I made that pick and stuck with it. And now Moltar is eliminating me in the Guru contest, damn it. My smarter alt bracket has Kratos > Donkey Kong though.

Can Donkey Kong pull off second though? I suppose it's still quite possible for him to come out on top in the SFF battle, due to him being closer to the core Mario series. Donkey Kong loves to disappoint though, unlike Kirby.

Can L-Block pull off second? I suppose it's quite possible that the joke votes will push him ahead of the SFFing Kirby and Donkey Kong.

This definitely has the potential to be an interesting battle for 2nd place. But one thing is for sure: Kratos takes first. He was very impressive in the first round, and though he has some tough competition this round, his popularity, which is completely unattached from all three of his opponents, will still leave him in first place at the end of the day.

DpOblivion's dumber main bracket says: Donkey Kong > Kratos (whoops)

Confidence Rating: 0%

DpOblivion's smarter alt bracket says: Kratos > Donkey Kong

Confidence Rating: 30%

DpOblivion's prediction is: Kratos > Kirby

Confidence Rating: 55%

Kratos - 36%
Kirby - 24%
Donkey Kong - 21%
L-Block- 19%


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Tatl | Posted 10/16/2007 10:35:48 PM | message detail | #136
I certainly hope HM is right...

L-Block > ALL
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transience | Posted 10/16/2007 11:41:43 PM | message detail | #137
aitch emm and i look like geniuses! for now
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AndrewWarner | Posted 10/17/2007 2:19:22 AM | message detail | #138
tag
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/17/2007 8:42:22 AM | message detail | #139
You got my revised writeup right Moltar?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/17/2007 8:42:42 AM | message detail | #140
Pikachu................24.14% 30533
Tidus.....................20.82% 26327
Leon Kennedy....33.31% 42128
Vivi Ornitier..........21.73% 27480
TOTAL VOTES.................126468

14.52% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
11.19% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

33.90% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
38.19% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew Predictions: Fully Correct - 30; Half Correct - 12; Barely Correct - 2

Pikachu doesn't end up doing too well, but still gets through thanks to Tidus and Vivi putting the hurt on each other badly. Leon dominates all.


Crew Prediction Challenge - Another point for Guest

Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi, Luis, XII, l3fty, Gadds, Bob) - 10
Lopen - 7
HM - 6
Yoblazer - 6
KH - 4
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Tran gets points for Leon and Pikachu, HM, KH and Guest get points for Vivi, and Yo gets a point for Tidus.

Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "5", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "3", Bio "2", Luis "2", XIII "2", l3fty, Gadds, Bob) - 33
HM - 32
Yoblazer - 32
Lopen - 23
Moltar - 22
Ulti - 21
Tran - 19
KH - 17
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Kirby/L-Block/Kratos/DK - Bracket: Kratos > Kirby - Vote: Kirby (187/224)
Loqutus | Posted 10/17/2007 9:42:16 AM | message detail | #141
If L-Block pulls it through over Kratos, I will laugh... so long and so hard.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/17/2007 10:13:43 AM | message detail | #142
aw yeah L-Block
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PirateKingLuffy | Posted 10/17/2007 2:31:32 PM | message detail | #143
Heh, HM had the same prediction for Vivi as me and KH, yet still had Pikachu losing?

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Lopen | Posted 10/17/2007 8:14:14 PM | message detail | #144
Well, seems like my Ulti impersonation was spot on, right down to the curse.

******* L-Block. ****.
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Lugia2 | Posted 10/17/2007 8:42:33 PM | message detail | #145
Okay, since KH is now the Lopen Hunter...

Congrats on your new nickname, LopenizerX!
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Lopen | Posted 10/17/2007 8:45:49 PM | message detail | #146
Never! That was a one time event!

(And man if I'm gonna take the name it's gotta be LopematerialzenX!!)
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/17/2007 8:46:55 PM | message detail | #147
My God! It just rolls right off the tongue!
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Lopen | Posted 10/17/2007 8:52:46 PM | message detail | #148
Well, it's that way by design. Four out of five dentists agree that Lopen rolls off the tongue like no other username, you know.

(Look at me flood the topic anxiously awaiting analyses!)
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th3l3fty | Posted 10/17/2007 8:54:19 PM | message detail | #149
Wow, I love how the guests are now slaughtering in points!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/17/2007 8:55:38 PM | message detail | #150
We're just that good.
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