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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3

Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 7:07:05 PM | message detail | #001
In a twist that no one on this board would have expected, I have decided to do the unthinkable. I will, once again, host the Contest Analysis Crew for the 6th Character Battle! Shocking, huh?

Most of you guys know the drill by now, but for those who are new to this, here's a short explanation. The Contest Analysis Crew (or The Crew, or AC, whatever you want to call us) is a group of users who know how these Contests work. Our duty is to analyze each match and predict who will win each match and the percentages each character will get. Now, our record isn't perfect, but we've been more right than wrong, so that counts for something!

Now it's time for the Introductions! Here are the regulars of The Crew for this Contest. Just let me pull out the old file cabinet and...ahh yes.

Master Moltar
- Founder of the Contest Analysis Crew
- Has participated in each Contest since 2003
- Likes Ganondorf...almost too much

Okay, that's one. Now, next is...

UltimaterializerX
- Member of The Crew since Spring 2004
- Winner of the Spring Contest in 2004
- He called it

Two down, five to go! Next is...

Heroic Mario
- Man of 1000 usernames (now known as ZFS)
- Man of 1000 favorite characters and games
- Member of The Crew since Spring 2006

Then we have...

Yoblazer
- Member of The Crew since Spring 2006
- Ended on the leaderboard in 2004 twice and 2005
- Has some sort of Ariel obsession

Little over half way there...

Lopen
- Member of The Crew since Spring 2006
- Has rightfully earned the nickname "Hit or Miss"
- Loves any character with white hair or a green suit

Only a few more...

Karma Hunter
- Member of The Crew since Summer 2006
- He is so smart. S-M-R-T
- ___________ is so screwed.

One more left!

Transience
- Warning! Challenger approaching!
- Goes by the name "trannyscience"
- Better not mess up or he's outta here!

Oh, and one more thing. Returning for this Contest will be the ever-so-popular Guest spot! That's right, if you sign up for it, then you can write an analysis for the Crew! Currently, sign-ups for the Round 1 are filled, but Round 2 and 3 are up now. Here is who we have for the upcoming matches.

Link/Zelda/Vince/Bidoof - XIII_rocks
Crono/Raiden/Zero/HK-47 - Hippo_Is_Teh_67

Luigi/Mudkip/Ganondorf/Vergil - ZenOfThunder
M. Chief/Yuna/Alucard/Liquid - neonreaper

Dante/Ammy/Ada/Balthier - satai_delenn
Pikachu/Tidus/Leon/Vivi - Big Bob

Kirby/L-BlockKratos/DK - Biolizard28
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Mario/Big Boss/Magus/Phoenix - Bracket: Mario > Magus - Vote: Big Boss (143/168)
trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 7:09:06 PM | message detail | #002
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 7:12:08 PM | message detail | #003
Guests - Send your write-ups to MasterMoltar@gmail.com

Wanna see past Crew stuff? Go here: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/9
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Mario/Big Boss/Magus/Phoenix - Bracket: Mario > Magus - Vote: Big Boss (143/168)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 7:35:22 PM | message detail | #004
Auron....................................35.83% 48423
Shadow the Hedgehog....13.94% 18842
Ryu.......................................26.16% 35350
Bowser................................24.07% 32529
TOTAL VOTES................................135144

44.90% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
28.11% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

11.80% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
8.26% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Sephiroth..........57.11% 73746
Meta Knight......13.19% 17028
Fox McCloud....19.74% 25486
Wario...................9.97% 12877
TOTAL VOTES.............129137

83.90% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
5.48% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

46.30% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
3.02% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew Predictions: Fully Correct - 25; Half Correct - 10; Barely Correct - 2

Auron easily wins his fourpack, and in a surprise to some, Ryu takes second without breaking a sweat! Then, the next day, Sephiroth scores better on his Round 2 opponents than last round, and Fox takes second.



Crew Prediction Challenge - More points for HM!

HM - 6
Lopen - 6
Yoblazer - 6
Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi) - 5
KH - 4
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - HM gets points for Auron, Yo gets a point for Ryu, Lopen gets the point for Bowser, and Moltar and Lopen get points for Shadow. HM gets the point for Seph, Lopen gets a point for Fox, Yo gets a point for Meta Knight, and Guest gets a point for Wario.

HM - 29
Yoblazer - 27
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "5", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2", Bio "2") - 25
Lopen - 21
Ulti - 18
Moltar - 17
Tran - 16
KH - 12
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Mario/Big Boss/Magus/Phoenix - Bracket: Mario > Magus - Vote: Big Boss (143/168)
ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 8:54:55 PM | message detail | #005
i'm #1

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let's mosey
FinalFantasyTactics | Posted 10/10/2007 8:56:30 PM | message detail | #006
How do we see the past predictions after the older topic purges?
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Counter Strike: Source Ownz!!
trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 8:57:09 PM | message detail | #007
Wanna see past Crew stuff? Go here: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/9

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"And just to clear up any remaining confusion, tranny > icon." -Shaggy
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 8:57:38 PM | message detail | #008
Division 4: Round 2 - Match 39 – Link vs. Bidoof vs. Vincent Valentine vs. Zelda

Moltar’s Analysis

Link
Round 1 – 70.50% vs. Bidoof, Miles and Agent J

Domination.

Bidoof
Round 1 – 15.96% vs. Link, Miles and Agent J

doof doof

Vincent
Round 1 – 38.68% vs. Zelda, The Boss and Tails

Just some optional character, huh?

Zelda
Round 1 – 29.88% vs. Vincent, The Boss and Tails

Even the name couldn’t avoid her beating from Vincent.

Previously, Link received a call from Midna alerting him about his Round 1 match in the 6th Character Battle. Link rushes to make it in time, but soon finds out his opponents came to him instead. With one swing of his sword, he wiped them out, and now continues on his journey to reach the stadium.

The Setting - A long, deseted road in an empty town.


Link: *looking around* Looks like I’m not in Hyrule anymore. *continues running forward*

???: Where do you think you’re going?

*A figure emerges from ahead, and Link stops.*

Link: I know you, you’re Vincent!

Vincent: Good to see my name has spread across “The Land”.

Link: What are you doing here? I need to get to my match!

Vincent: I am your next opponent.

Link: What?! *to himself* Vincent is a pretty strong guy, but still, I can take him. *draws sword*

Vincent: I wouldn’t do that if I were you. *takes a step to the side, revealing a tied up Zelda behind him*

Link: Princess! *Zelda tries to call out to him, but her mouth is covered*

Vincent: You wouldn’t want to attack her, would you? Now lay down your sword and shield or else *points gun at Zelda’s head*

Link: I didn’t think you would stoop so low to win. *places his sword and shield on the ground*

Vincent: I wouldn’t normally, but I have orders to follow. *pulls out another gun and aims it at Link* Now, die Link!

*Vincent fires a blast at Link, but just before it makes contact…*

BIDOOF! *jumps in front of Link*

Link: Bidoof? No! *Bidoof is hit by the blast*

Vincent: What is this?

*Zelda uses the distraction to use her magic and break free*

Zelda: Link!

Vincent: Not so fast! *Zelda tries to escape, but Vincent pistol whips her in the back of the head.*

Link: ZZZZEEERRRUUUUDDDAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

*Link picks up his sword and charges at Vincent. Before he can attack, Vincent disappears beneath a cloud of black and red smoke*

Vincent: You win this round, but next time I’ll be ready to fight you head on (apply directly to the forehead).

Link: What was that last part? Vincent, get back here! Vincent! *looks over at the Princess*

Zelda: Please, look after Bidoof. I’ll be alright. *teleports off*

Link: Bidoof, are you okay?

Bidoof: *badly injured* Bii…Bidoof Bidoof Bii. Bidoof Bidoof Bidoof Doof. Bii Bii Bidoof Bii…

Flashback

Bidoof: Bidoof Bidoof Bidoof Bidoof! Bii Bii Bidoof Bidoof!

???: *evil laugh, followed by evil action*

Bidoof: Biiiiiiii!!!!! *crying* Bidoof Bidoof Biiiii!!!!!!

Flashback end

Bidoof: Bidoof Bidoof Doof Doof. Doof Bidoof Bidoof Bii. *tear streams down cheek* Bii….Bii…*closes eyes*

Link: I don’t understand the words that are coming out of your mouth!

Bidoof: It’s okay…no one else does either. *faints*

Link: Wait, I understood that! Bidoof! Bidoof!! *looks up towards the sky* BIDOOF!!!!

*Link gets back to his feet*

Link: Vincent, you will pay for this. *continues down the road*
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 8:58:24 PM | message detail | #009
*Meanwhile, at a secret location*

Vincent: Sorry master, I wasn’t able to defeat Link.

???: You know I do not tolerate failure, Vincent.

Vincent: Yes sir. I will redeem myself though. The next time I face Link, I will get the job done. I swear it.

~*Part 2: Fin*~

So Link eats up another fourpack. Plus, thanks to Link, Zelda ends up dead last. No way she gets support when the source of her support is with her. This leads to Vincent taking an easy second.

lol bidoof > zelda

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Link > Vincent

Moltar’s Prediction is: Link: 53% - Vincent: 28% - Bidoof: 10% - Zelda: 9%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Studying for midterms, so I must apologize for the short writeup. Not that this match needs a long one, because Link should SFF Zelda into oblivion and Bidoof isn't strong enough to overcome Vincent for second place afterwards.

Ulti's Prediction:
Link [45.00%]
Vincent [35.00%]
Zelda [15.00%]
Bidoof [5.00%]


Heroic Mario’s Analysis

I have been looking forward to this match for a couple of days now, ever since we saw what Cloud did against Fenix/Ocelot/Kefka. There’s probably not a whole lot we can take away from this, but it’s always good when we’re startin’ to compare Cloud and Link performances!

Most people seem to be expecting Vincent to come away looking great off of this match and for Link to come away not looking so hot. I’m not sure Link has given a whole lot of reason to be doubted here, and I don’t think He Who Shall Not Be Named and Zelda are that big of detriment to him, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he came out with something like 50%+ in this match. It’d suck, mind you, but I wouldn’t be surprised!

But regardless of what Link does, I’m thinking Vincent’s going to come away looking good. I think there is a certain floor for every FF7 character in this contest -- something right around 25%. We have all seen that statistic that said something like 24% of the site thinks FF7 is the best game ever or something, which is impressive to say the least. I think that 24% is the hardcore FF7 vote. I don’t think, under most normal circumstances, that you’ll ever see a FF7 character fall under that. Even when Cloud had to deal with Sephiroth stealing some of his votes, he still pulled in nearly 24% (which I don’t consider a “normal circumstance,” by the way).

Now, that isn’t to say that FF7 characters only receive the hardcore vote – because that isn’t true. They get plenty of support otherwise, which is why they’re as strong as they are, but I think there’s that contingent that is going to vote the FF7 option every single time regardless of whom all is there. There’s probably not a whole lot to support that right now, but it’s what I’m thinking.

So with that in mind, if Vincent’s floor is around 25%, I think he can garner enough extra support to boost him over 30% here -- although I’m being optimistic (ie., fanboy!) in all likelihood. I think that is going to speak more to Vincent’s natural strength in this format than any hindrance that He Who Shall Not Be Named and Zelda might bring to Link, although if he does I think it’ll undoubtedly be blamed on that.

This match is all about Link and Vincent’s percentages. There’s a couple of matches (Vincent/Crono; Cloud/Link) that could start getting some discussion depending on how this goes, but this could also just confirm that Link is a monster and he’s got the contest locked up. Who knows what’s going to happen -- DAMMIT BIDOOF YOU GET OUT OF HERE I DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOUR MIRACLES YOU UNSEXY THING.

man why did i write so much for a match that doesn’t matter -- i blame the ‘doof

Link – 45%
Vincent – 32%
Bidoof – 13%
Zelda – 10%


Bracket: Link > Vincent
Vote: Vincent
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 8:58:49 PM | message detail | #010
Yoblazer’s Analysis

Once again, I'll have to endure the bittersweet feeling of my favorite character ever sharing the poll with that beaver thing I want so, so dead. And this time, sadly, matters are made worse because said beaver has an excellent chance to outperform another character I love. Welcome to the world of severe SFF in a 4way poll. Check your pwned ass at the front door. =(

Despite loving Link, I probably won't enjoy this poll much. It has Bidoof, a Zelda that can realistically get SFF'D hard enough to lose to Bidoof, and a Vincent that is virtually assured to look good against Link due to the contest god sharing the poll with two other Nintendo characters. Why is Vincent bound to look good? Well, think of it like this: even if Bidoof and Zelda are so weak as to only manage a combined 20% of the poll, that 20% has an absolutely massive overlap with Link. It's a Pokemon and a Zelda character, for Pete's sake. In a 1v1 match against Vincent, Link would pick up at least 80% of the votes left behind by these two, and conceivably much more (before you call me crazy, remember that this is the guy who picked up 100% of Samus's leftover votes in the Battle Royal last year).

So, what's that mean? It means Vincent might end up with a somewhat comparable percentage against Link in this 4way match as he would in a traditional match. The Cloud>Link upset alarms will be blaring louder than ever, and I'll have to shut my ears for a good 24 hours. For the love of all that is holy, Link, prove me wrong. Please!

As for the epic Zelda/Bidoof battle (...), I can see it going either way. Ganondorf put up a measly 12% on Link in 2004, and I can't see Zelda outdoing or matching that in this format. Bidoof, on the other hand, put up 16% on Link last round, so he is admittedly the favorite. However, he's also up against another fan favorite in Vincent, and I have a feeling that the joke may have fizzled. He really has nothing to compete for in this round, and Phoenix's current collapse hints at that being sufficient enough to kill his support. I'll give them each crap and call it a day.

Link - 50%
Vincent Valentine - 30%
Zelda - 10%
Bidoof - 10%



Lopen’s Analysis

Fun match here, Link's finest hours are had when he's maiming his own. How low can he push Zelda here? Let me give you an idea of how low. I present to you, the true pic for this match!

ttp://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/NeoX-Death/cb6-39.jpg

Alright, now that the truth is out of the way here... how well will Edward Sciss-- *ahem*... Vincent do? Well I think Agent Z, as feeble as she is, will be hurting Link almost directly here. Vincent will be laughing it up, looking the best he can.

Now, I suppose this match will also serve as an idiocy test for GameFAQs. I'm not joking when I say I think some people think that awesome guy in the green tunic's name is Zelda. Will it give Agent Z many votes? No, no it won't. But it'll give her ever so slightly more than she deserves, probably enough to put her just over Bidoof. And of course it'll give Link ever so less than he deserves. Of course, you can never factor out the Vincent Bidoof overlap, I mean, is there anything more natural than...

Vincent: DOOF DOOF DOOF.

Trust me, the rumors are not false. It happened. With his Level 0 Doofmasker Limit Break... it was... horrifying.

Lopen's Prediction:
Link - 55.09%
Edward Scissorhands - 30.39%
Agent Z - 9.31%
Die, cretin! - 5.21%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Something like a breather, something new! Something borrowed, something, err... green? Brown? What the hell is with that hair

Link

A dominating 70% performance last round, and that might've even been misleadingly low considering that joke character Bidoof was there.
...wait. He's *still* here??? AUGH

Bidoof

why
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 8:59:26 PM | message detail | #011
Vincent Valentine

Whatever naysayers there were about Vincent Valentine not being the strongest non-Noble have been all but firmly silenced. Vincent beat the HELL out of Zelda last round to coast to an extremely comfortable victory. Being the only non-Bidoof entry here that isn't gonna get SFFed, Vincent may impress relatively today.

Zelda

She got dismantled last round, and she's dealing with Link now. Don't expect too much out of her... like beating Bidoof.

This is so clear-cut that I'm bleeding out of my fingertips. Link > Vincent, anything else would be the biggest upset of this contest. That being said, there's a question of how well the entries will do, especially Link - how much can he SFF Zelda?

Well, I'm of the opinion that it'll be a TON, and that the confusion between the names Link and Zelda will be small. Despite general thought to the contrary, I'm gonna go with Link dominating the SFF so much that he looks on par or even better than he 'should' do. And that's saying a lot.

Of course, Bidoof's joke votes and the legitimately strong Vincent bring him down. Still, Link shouldn't drop below 50% like some people are calling for.

(oh god)

Karma Hunter's Vote: Vincent Valentine WHY DOES EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS MATCH FAIL SO HARD
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Link with 56%, Vincent Valentine with 24%, Bidoof with 11%, Zelda with 9%

Upset Probability: 1%

FOODIB FOODIB FOODIB



Transience’s Analysis

this is the only time in the foreseeable future where Link might lose a match.

okay, that's hyperbole, and I guess Cloud has an itsy bitsy chance in the finals. but this match is freaking tailor-made for Vincent: three Nintendo guys, one of them sharing the same series, and one of them being named Zelda. if there is any significant number of people that confuse Zelda and Link... who knows?

granted, this is next to impossible, but people are going to overreact to Vincent here. he's going to be looked at as a lock to defeat Crono after this match, and it's just not a fair comparison because Link is being held back. plus, Link will probably find it hard to bring in a big percentage when he has to deal with B... B...

WHY IS THIS UGLY, STUPID, UN-FUNNY, BUCK-TOOTHED BROWN PIECE OF CRAP STILL IN MY BRACKET. I WILL CRUSH ANYBODY THAT VOTES FOR THIS MONSTROSITY. YOU ALL MAKE ME VOMIT WITH RAGE.

vincent will look great
people will claim cloud beats link
which is bad logic

transience's prediction: Link with 46.56%, Vincent with 32.53%, Zelda with 11.21%, AUGH with 9.7%



Guest’s Analysis - XIII_rocks

Well, this match is at least more powerful than the last one I did - Yuna/Roll(!!). However, it's unfortunate that it's virtually set in stone at this point...to be fair, few thought otherwise.

The competitors...well, in one corner we have that indomnitable powerhouse, Link. He managed to pull 70% with 3 other horribly weak characters in the poll. The Zelda series has tanked pretty badly so far (especially Midna, LOL that woman); Link seems ridiculously powerful as per usual, but maybe Link's strongest incarnation would have pulled another, say, 5% in that poll. Though I doubt he could ever hit 85% haw haw Lopen

Now we have two of the strongest characters outside of the Noble Nine; Vincent first. He showed his strength in 2005, then furthered it in 2006 with a stirling performance against Ganondorf and a respectable loss to Sonic. This year...so far, he's blown Zelda to pieces, while a far superior character was left to fight it out for third lol GameFAQs >_>.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 9:00:19 PM | message detail | #012
Next, Zelda. Like Vince, she put in a good performance last year, and with TP, was thought to give Vincent a scare 1v1. But she's tanked horribly. She failed to double Tails and The Boss, lost by 10% to the opponent that she was supposed to be close with and has generally been a terrific flop.

Finally...Bidoof. Well, he beat Miles and qualified from a group of crap + Link. Nice one.

Now, unfortunately it would appear that I was in some sort of weird, nigh-unconscious state when I created my bracket. I seriously cannot fathom some of the errors I've made thus far. Knuckles > Yoshi...>_<. One of these mistakes? Yup, Link > Zelda in this match. I could try deluding myself, but unfortunately I suck at that. Instead, I'll give it to you straight; this is clearly a Link > Vincent deal.

This is the first time we've had two triforce characters in the same poll since Link/Ganon, and we all know how that turned out. CATS looked better than Ganondorf. CATS. Seriously (You know what's annoying? I wanted to capitalise CATS for emphasis and...yeah. Dammit.) Zelda won't perform as badly in relative terms as Ganon did, I don't think. Ganon and Zelda were fairly close to each other in 2k6, and I fancy Zelda to get more against Link than Ganon because she has the name base to use. It's Legend of ZELDA, not Link, remember. Bidoof is a non-factor - he'll sap a few votes for sure, but he's so astronomically far out of his league here that it'll cease to matter. Short of a huge, unprecedented 4chan rally/cheat-fest, of course.

Vincent is the only character here with an entirely independent fanbase and I think he'll thrive. While Link loses some of his votes to Zelda and Bidoof just sits there talking with Luna Lovegood or whoever was in the comics with him and building dams, Vincent will do very well for himself. He looks more and more like the one to finally put an end to the Noble Nine cartel, and a good performance here will set him up nicely to knock out Crono in the division final.

So, to sum up:

* Vincent is apparently 10% stronger than Zelda.
* Link is in the poll with her.
* LOL Bidoof.
* Zelda will be decimated by Vincent's strength and Link's SFF-ability.

XIII_rocks' Prediction: Link > Vince > Zelda > Bidoof
XIII_rocks' Percentage Prediction: Link with 51%, Vincent with 27.5%, Zelda with 13.5%, Bidoof with 7%
*sigh* ...If I must...: XIII_rocks' bracket says: ...Link > Zelda augh
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Crew Consensus: Link > Vincent, Zelda gets screwed, augh bidoof
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:04:31 PM | message detail | #013
Man, I can't wait 'till Link's next match to find out where this story goes.
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CB6 - 118/168; Oracle - 28nd
DpObliVion | Posted 10/10/2007 9:12:17 PM | message detail | #014
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis:

YES! Finally, I'll get a 2nd round match fully correct! Man, what a nightmare Round 2 has been. Zelda and Vincent are fairly close, but Link's presence makes Zelda look like Tanner. This one finishes Link > Vincent in the easiest match of the contest.

The only question is if Link will SFF Zelda enough to drop her to 4th place. Yes, Bidoof should get SFFed as well, but not as much being a Pokemon, plus all the joke votes that he will get anyway.

DpOblivion's bracket says: Link > Vincent

DpOblivion's prediction is: Link > Vincent

Confidence Rating: 99% (-1% for my bad luck)

Link - 52%
Vincent - 31%
Bidoof - 10%
Zelda - 7%


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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket *LETS GO GIANTS*
furryjenny | Posted 10/10/2007 9:24:15 PM | message detail | #015
Finally, a match I won't get screwed over by FGF/XBOX/WTF/TFB/TPF.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/10/2007 9:30:37 PM | message detail | #016
That's the first sane percentage prediction I've seen from DP in weeks.
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SC2k7: 88/128, tied for 1364th
Today's Pick: Mega Man > Knux (whoops)
DpObliVion | Posted 10/10/2007 9:32:47 PM | message detail | #017
I still have the lowest Zelda prediction.

I think so, anyway....not sure about Lopen....

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket *LETS GO GIANTS*
Lopen | Posted 10/10/2007 9:46:58 PM | message detail | #018
Psh. You think Bidoof could dare inherit the prestigious title of Agent Z?
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/11/2007 1:08:35 AM | message detail | #019
I knew I should've went higher with Bidoof....

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket *LETS GO GIANTS*
transience | Posted 10/11/2007 8:36:32 AM | message detail | #020
it looks like he might end up with like 13%... pretty impressive drop for a guy who led Vincent for a full hour.
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"All I can do... is just sit with them."
shadow8021 | Posted 10/11/2007 2:48:01 PM | message detail | #021
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Character Battle Score: 138/176
Today's Pick: Link > Vincent Valentine
ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 4:15:43 PM | message detail | #022
do not give me the point for bidoof

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let's mosey
Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 6:56:04 PM | message detail | #023
Mario.......................46.6% 62062
Big Boss..............24.89% 33146
Magus....................17.8% 23700
Phoenix Wright...10.71% 14263
TOTAL VOTES................133171

82.43% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
6.87% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

8.01% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
8.20% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew Predictions: Fully Correct - 26; Half Correct - 10; Barely Correct - 2

Crew bails out from bracket favorite, jumps ship to the upset pick, and calls it right?! aww yeah Big Boss, with maybe a bit of help from Naked Snake, easily beats Magus and advances to Round 2 with Mario.



Crew Prediction Challenge - Guest gets today's point.

HM - 6
Lopen - 6
Yoblazer - 6
Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi, Luis) - 6
KH - 4
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Guest gets points for Mario and Magus, KH gets the point for Big Boss, and Ulti gets the point for Phoenix

HM - 29
Yoblazer - 27
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "5", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2", Bio "2", Luis '2') - 27
Lopen - 21
Ulti - 19
Moltar - 17
Tran - 16
KH - 13
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Link/Bidoof/Vincent/Zelda - Bracket: Link > Vincent - Vote: Link (147/176)
Luis_Sera89 | Posted 10/11/2007 6:58:56 PM | message detail | #024
Woo! Took me enough goes to finally score some points >_>
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FantasyFreak999 | Posted 10/11/2007 9:16:31 PM | message detail | #025
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 9:18:43 PM | message detail | #026
Division 4: Round 2 - Match 40 – Crono vs. Raiden vs. Zero vs. HK-47

Moltar’s Analysis

Crono
Round 1 – 48.18% vs. Raiden, Sam and Simon

Crono does decently…for a Noble Niner.

Raiden
Round 1 – 20.15% vs. Crono, Sam and Simon

Nearly losing to Sam? This is the Raiden we wanted back?

Zero
Round 1 – 39.56% vs. HK-47, Lloyd and Jak

Couldn’t break 40%, huh?

HK-47
Round 1 – 21.30% vs. Zero, Lloyd and Jak

Take that, Lloyd and Jak you meatbags.

Well, this one is surely uninteresting. Not only do we have a predictable character to take first, but also a clear-cut second place character too!

First up, there’s Crono. He performed decently in Round 1. Nothing to make us say wow, or nothing to laugh at him for either. With Zero and HK-47 in the poll, he’ll definitely lose percent, but he’ll still clearly rule over the rest.

So who takes second? HK-47? Nope, Raiden? Tiny, tiny chance, but not likely. Zero? Yeah, that sounds about right. Zero didn’t look too impressive last round, so I doubt he does much here as well.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono > Zero

Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 43% - Zero: 25% - Raiden: 17% - HK-47: 15%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

This one should end up being a pretty dull affair. Raiden could kinda maybe sorta surprise, but I would doubt it. The best thing to keep an eye on with this one is Crono’s percentage, and the rough comparison we’ll be able to make between Vincent’s performance this round and last round. Judging from yesterday’s match, Vincent hasn’t lost a step, and is looking like he should right now. Given what we’ve seen of Chrono Trigger so far, it’s up to Crono to impress here.

Crono should come away looking pretty decent in this match. I think his percentage will be comparable to Vincent’s last round, and against competition that lines up fairly well, too. Then again, if Magus was any indication of what has happened to CT lately, and particularly in this format, Crono could end up “bombing.”

But yeah, I’m expecting this one to follow expectations – Crono wins easy; Zero takes a distant second; Raiden in third; HK-47 bringing up in the rear. Next!

Crono – 40%
Zero – 25%
Raiden – 20%
HK-47 – 15%


Bracket: Crono > Zero
Vote: Crono


Yoblazer’s Analysis

I'm terribly pressed for time, so this will be short. Crono is the obvious winner, and unless Raiden pulls off some sort of miracle, Zero is the obvious second place finisher. The only question here is how well each one does, or, if you're into the upset that will never happen, how close Zero can get to the Noble 9er. Personally, I don't think it will be terribly close. Zero's fourpack last round featured two relatively cult RPG characters and a platform star no one gives a crap about, yet he was unable to get 40%. Now we're replacing those bumps and throwing Crono in their place. Thus, I think Zero's percentage will look a bit ugly. It's a pretty boring match, with the only excitement generated by our own discussions.

Crono - 38%
Zero - 28%
Raiden - 17%
HK-47 - 17%
Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 9:19:07 PM | message detail | #027
Lopen’s Analysis

<<INCOMING CALL>>
Marle: Take me to the Millennial Fair, Raiden!
Raiden: Not a chance!
Marle: But... but... *giggle* I wanna go! Fine! Could you hold onto my pendant while I'm gone then!
Raiden: Why don't you do it?
Marle: Because I might drop it!
Raiden: WHATEVER! *hangs up*

<<INCOMING CALL>>
Marle: *giggle* Statement: Hello!~
Raiden: ...
Marle: Get it? It was my--
Raiden: Yes, I get it, now stop using this line! *hangs up*

<<INCOMING CALL>>
...
<<INCOMING CALL>>
...
<<INCOMING CALL>>
Marle: Hi, Raid---*GUGH!*

Cartwheel to the face. Aw yeah. Game over, Marle, game over.

Now as for the moral of the story... just know this: If Marle was the one who saved your game? Man, Rose would be worshipped in several countries. Hailed as that goddess of less annoyance from MGS2. Less annoyance... strong domain for a goddess to have, that one.

This match? Well, Crono's a bit out of his reach, but Raiden's a lock for second here, I mean let's look at this: Raiden was screwed by the less recognizable picture last round. Sam Fisher split a lot of Raiden's stealth fanbase. MGS2: Substance = on X-Box = Halo 3 boost. Crono old school SFFs Zero. Zero sword SFFed Lloyd Irving and is even weaker than he looked. Raiden will in turn sword-n-gunz SFF Zero. HK-47 continues to leech the robot vote.

Clearly, that makes the match result:

Lopen's prediction:
Crono - 36.11%
Raiden - 25.45%
Zero - 25.12% (HI HO CHEROKEE THE BLACK HORSE GOES DOWN!)
HK-47 - 13.32%

In all seriousness, I do think Raiden has the chance to upset here should he get a different recognizable pic (which still isn't up!) looking at how radically MGS characters seem to be affected by them, and at what a lukewarm display Zero put up last round (for those unnameless making claims of Zero not disappointing... such claims require Lloyd Irving at like 22% on Base Link... nuh uh). And I wasn't entirely kidding when I said Crono old school SFFs Zero... I do think there's a slight potential for weirdness there. Now... is it a good chance for Raiden to win?

YOU BET YOUR LA-LI-LU-LE-LO IT IS. KILL, RAIDEN, KILL!



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Short one tonight, folks. I BET YOU'RE SHOCKED

Crono

Crono does around expectations last round, maybe a lil' worse - and considering what we've seen out of CT this contest, that's a goddamn miracle.

Raiden

Raiden disappoints and nearly loses to Fisher, but moves on. People blamed the MGS4 picture. Will he get an MGS2 one this round and impress? I doubt both, but we'll see.

Zero

Zero disappoints last round and gives the BT-hating world reason to rejoice. Not that his path wasn't cut-and-dry as well, but could something AMAZING and AWESOME happen to upend him here?

(no, but it's nice to insult him all the same)

HK-47

The best character in this match made a pretty nice upset last round to advance here, proving he was legit in more ways than one to overcome his threepack of suck. WOO HK

So, yeah, I'd take any upset happening here, but I see nothing really materializing. Though if it did it would be hilarious!

...yeah. Raiden getting a MGS2 picture is about the most extreme thing that can happen here, and that's if you're a BIG believer in the disparity ( i.e. MGS4 Raiden: MGS2 Raiden :: old BB pic: Naked Snake pic).
Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 9:20:41 PM | message detail | #028
Other than that, no. suck Zero suck

Karma Hunter's Vote: HK-47 argh goddammit he needs to WIN
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Crono with 37%, Zero with 28%, Raiden with 19%, HK-47 with 16%

Upset Probability: 100%

You know the drill.



Transience’s Analysis

one pokemon down two to go

this match should be fairly predictable and boring. Crono's a good amount above Zero, Zero *should* be a good amount above Raiden, and Raiden's probably fighting with HK for third unless that MGS4 picture was huge. there's really not too much we can say here, as the main purpose of this match will be to compare Crono to Vincent. after Magus's pathetic bomb a couple of days ago and Frog getting Axel'd, the Vincent > Crono bandwagon has gotten really loud, and rightly so.

it's tough to say what's impressing and what's not, though. I mean, I think Link is looking just fine today, but some people think this is the beginning of the end for him. nearly doubling Vincent with Zelda sucking up a small percentage of his votes? that's pretty damn good. I think people think Link is some kind of god that's going to kill everything with 677% of the vote or something. and to see him under 50% is making them realize how stupid their expectations are.

uhh, anyway, back to Crono. I'd say that if he clears 40% here, he remains the favourite in the match with Vincent. that's a tall order though, given three unique fanbases and one character that *should* have some decent strength in this format, Zero. Zero didn't look all that good in his round 1 match, failing to pull 40% on three pieces of upper level fodder. I think he'll look a little bit better here, but I'm not seeing the Zero over Crono/Vincent hype at all to this point. I thought it had a small chance pre-contest, but right now it looks next to impossible given that Link will be in the poll with them.

gotta match Vincent
Crono needs to step it up
show he's not old news

transience's prediction: Crono with 38.99%, Zero with 27.34%, Raiden with 17.87%, HK-47 with 15.80%



Crew Consensus: Crono > Zero
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/11/2007 9:25:23 PM | message detail | #029
ULTI'S WRITEUP

Been studying nonstop all week, so I haven't had any time to write anything but English and history papers. Sorry peeps.

Crono > Zero seems obvious enough, what with the way Raiden bombed last round. He might even come in last place, given how casual this site has gotten and how HK could benefit from it.

PREDICTION

Crono 40%
Zero 30%
Raiden 20%
HK 10%

As generic as it gets baby, woohoo.

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th3l3fty | Posted 10/11/2007 9:51:29 PM | message detail | #030
Since nobody else has posted a guest write-up...

Crono will obviously run away with the match, although the picture will somewhat hurt him.
Zero gained what could be a critical pic advantage, with Raiden getting that same unrecognizable junk! If Raiden had any chance before this, it's all gone now.

Crono – 38.95%
Zero – 31.11%
Raiden – 15.43%
HK-47 – 14.51%
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/11/2007 10:12:47 PM | message detail | #031
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Late Analysis:

How much of Big Boss' success this round due to his picture? I rightly gave credit to the MGS characters in the first round, but I hope I didn't then shortchange those same characters in the second round.

Zero should have 2nd place here (and no, I didn't check the poll results first), but I wouldn't be surprised if Raiden pulled the upset. Crazier things have happened.

*reminder that I picked Luigi > Zero last year*

DpOblivion's bracket says: Crono > Zero

DpOblivion's prediction is: Crono > Zero

Confidence Rating: 80%

Whee, no percentages because I was late so I missed submitting for the Oracle again.


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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/12/2007 3:22:06 AM | message detail | #032
Donkey Kong vs. Kratos vs. Marth vs. Prince of all Cosmos
First Place
+8 Guest
+7 Mo (tie)
+7 KH (tie)
+5 tran
+4 HM
+3 Yo
+2 Lo
+1 Ulti

Second Place
+8 Ulti
+7 Mo
+6 Guest
+5 Yo
+4 tran
+3 Lo
+2 HM (tie)
+2 KH (tie)


Nightmare vs. Rayman vs. Solid Snake vs. Vyse
First Place
+8 Yo
+7 Guest
+6 tran
+5 HM (tie)
+5 Mo (tie)
+3 Lo
+2 KH (tie)
+2 Ulti (tie)

Second Place
+8 Lo
+7 tran
+6 Ulti
+5 Mo
+4 HM
+3 KH
+0 Guest
+0 Yo


Haseo vs. Riku vs. Ryu Hayabusa vs. Roxas
First Place
+8 Lo
+7 KH
+6 tran
+5 Mo
+4 Guest
+3 HM
+2 Ulti (tie)
+2 Yo (tie)

Second Place
+8 KH
+7 Lo
+6 Ulti
+5 HM
+4 tran
+3 Mo
+2 Yo
+1 Guest


Aeris vs. Akuma vs. Geno vs. Squall
First Place
+8 HM (tie)
+8 Yo (tie)
+6 tran
+5 Lo
+4 KH (tie)
+4 Mo (tie)
+2 Guest
+1 Ulti

Second Place
+8 Guest
+7 KH
+6 tran
+5 Mo (tie)
+5 Ulti (tie)
+3 HM
+0 Lo
+0 Yo


Albert Wesker vs. Daxter vs. Lara Croft vs. Sora
First Place
+8 HM (tie)
+8 Yo (tie)
+6 Mo
+5 tran
+4 Ulti
+3 Guest
+2 KH
+1 Lo

Second Place
+8 HM (tie)
+8 Ulti (tie)
+6 KH
+5 Lo
+4 Yo
+3 Mo
+2 tran
+0 Guest


Duke Nukem vs. Ike vs. Gordon Freeman vs. Guybrush Threepwood
First Place
+8 Lo
+7 Yo
+6 Mo
+0 Guest
+0 tran
+0 KH
+0 Ulti
+0 HM

Second Place
+8 Guest
+7 Lo
+6 Ulti
+5 Yo
+4 tran
+3 KH
+2 Mo
+0 HM


Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Sub-Zero vs. Prince of Persia vs. Viewtiful Joe
First Place
+8 Lo
+7 Guest (tie)
+7 HM (tie)
+5 KH (tie)
+5 Yo (tie)
+3 tran
+2 Mo (tie)
+2 Ulti (tie)

Second Place
+8 Ulti
+7 HM
+6 tran
+5 Mo
+4 Lo
+3 Guest (tie)
+3 Yo (tie)
+1 KH


Yoshi vs. Knuckles vs. Mega Man vs. KOS-MOS
First Place
+8 tran
+7 Mo
+6 KH
+5 HM (tie)
+5 Ulti (tie)
+5 Yo (tie)
+2 Guest
+1 Lo

Second Place
+8 KH
+7 HM (tie)
+7 Yo (tie)
+5 Ulti
+4 Mo
+3 Guest
+2 tran
+0 Lo


Samus Aran vs. Frog vs. Scorpion vs. Midna
First Place
+8 Yo
+7 tran
+6 Guest
+5 Lo
+4 KH (tie)
+4 Mo (tie)
+2 HM
+1 Ulti

Second Place
+8 Ulti (tie)
+8 Yo (tie)
+6 tran
+5 HM (tie)
+5 KH (tie)
+3 Lo
+2 Mo
+0 Guest


Marcus Fenix vs. Kefka vs. Cloud Strife vs. Revolver Ocelot
First Place
+8 HM
+7 Guest
+6 KH
+5 Mo (tie)
+5 Yo (tie)
+3 Lo
+2 tran
+1 Ulti

Second Place
+8 HM
+7 Guest
+6 Yo
+5 tran
+4 Mo
+3 Ulti
+2 Lo
+0 KH
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/12/2007 3:22:24 AM | message detail | #033
Auron vs. Shadow the Hedgehog vs. Ryu vs. Bowser
First Place
+8 HM
+7 Ulti
+6 tran
+5 Mo
+4 Lo
+3 KH (tie)
+3 Yo (tie)
+1 Guest

Second Place
+8 HM (tie)
+8 Mo (tie)
+6 Lo
+0 Guest
+0 tran
+0 KH
+0 Ulti
+0 Yo


Sephiroth vs. Meta Knight vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wario
First Place
+8 HM
+7 Yo
+6 KH
+5 Lo
+4 Guest
+3 tran
+2 Mo
+1 Ulti

Second Place
+8 Lo
+7 HM
+6 KH
+5 Guest (tie)
+5 Mo (tie)
+5 Yo (tie)
+2 tran
+1 Ulti


Mario vs. Big Boss vs. Magus vs. Phoenix Wright
First Place
+8 Guest
+7 Mo
+6 KH
+5 Yo
+4 Ulti
+3 Lo
+2 HM
+1 tran

Second Place
+8 KH
+7 tran
+6 Lo
+5 HM (tie)
+5 Yo (tie)
+3 Mo
+2 Guest
+1 Ulti


Link vs. -__- vs. Vincent Valentine vs. Zelda
First Place
+8 Guest
+7 Yo
+6 Mo
+5 Lo
+4 tran
+3 KH
+2 HM (tie)
+2 Ulti (tie)

Second Place
+8 Guest (tie)
+8 Mo (tie)
+6 Yo
+5 Lo
+4 KH
+3 HM
+2 tran
+1 Ulti



Overall Rankings
1. Master Moltar (395)
2. Yoblazer33 (371)
3. Heroic Mario (342)
4. transience (338)
5. Board 8 (324)
6. Karma Hunter (312)
7. Lopen (300)
8. UltimaterializerX (285)

Moltar and I are still relatively separated from the rest of the pack, but HM has gone on an absolute tear these past few days, and that's with a joke prediction in the Duke/Gordon match. However, unless HM continues his miracle run or I start to pick up the pace, Moltar remains the overwhelming favorite to win.

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Lugia2 | Posted 10/12/2007 5:55:56 AM | message detail | #034
Woah, what happened to the guest write-ups? Those were fun! Did people simply forget en-masse?
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transience | Posted 10/12/2007 6:31:38 AM | message detail | #035
ayup. guess people just aren't as into it this year as they were last.

maybe that's why Guest is doing so much better this year!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 8:42:31 AM | message detail | #036
Link.........................51.19% 74350
Bidoof.....................13.27% 19278
Vincent Valentine..27.75% 40309
Zelda.........................7.78% 11297
TOTAL VOTES...................145234

89.13% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
35.28% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

5.46% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
2.67% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew Predictions: Fully Correct - 27; Half Correct - 10; Barely Correct - 2

Hard to believe Bidoof was holding second for an hour when you look at the aftermath. Link and Vincent advance.


Crew Prediction Challenge - Guest gets today's point again.

Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi, Luis, XII) - 7
HM - 6
Lopen - 6
Yoblazer - 6
KH - 4
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Guest gets a point for Link, Moltar and Guest get points for Vincent, HM gets the point for his favorite little Pokemon, and Moltar and KH get points for Zelda.

HM - 30
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "5", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2", Bio "2", Luis "2", XIII "2") - 29
Yoblazer - 27
Lopen - 21
Ulti - 19
Moltar - 19
Tran - 16
KH - 14
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Crono/Raiden/Zero/HK-47 - Bracket: Crono > Zero - Vote: Raiden (155/184)
neonreaper | Posted 10/12/2007 8:54:07 AM | message detail | #037
sent my guest piece in
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th3l3fty | Posted 10/12/2007 4:54:22 PM | message detail | #038
Sweet, the only way I'm not getting this point is if Zero falls below 30.03%!
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/12/2007 7:37:05 PM | message detail | #039
DpOblivion's bracket says: Ganondorf > Luigi

Confidence Rating: 45%

DpOblivion's prediction is: Ganondorf > I don't know


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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 9:17:49 PM | message detail | #040
Division 5: Round 2 - Match 41 – Luigi vs. Mudkip vs. Ganondorf vs. Vergil

Moltar’s Analysis

Luigi
Round 1 – 45.96% vs. Mudkip, Pit and Tingle

Luigi owns three random dudes.

Mudkip
Round 1 – 27.71% vs. Luigi, Pit, Tingle

GameFAQs…likes Mudkipz?

Ganondorf
Round 1 – 49.10% vs. Vergil, Thrall and Ratchet

aww yeah

Vergil
Round 1 – 19.37% vs. Ganondorf, Thrall and Ratchet

Was the best of the worst.

Another easy match. There’s only one big question about it, but before I address it, let’s look at the losers first. Well, one of them. Vergil gets crushed here, so let’s now jump to…

Mudkip! This Pokemon surprised many people last round by actually not doing bad. It didn’t just not do bad though, it did well! Like, too well, midcarder well. Legitimate strength well. However, it didn’t do Ganondorf or Luigi well, so the joke ends here.

Now, between two Nintendo top dogs, only one can take first. Most are banking on Ganondorf to do it. He’s stronger than Luigi, for one. He also has the Zelda backing, while Luigi only gets the Mario backing (lol i know). Ganondorf’s also like the coolest character ever.

Of course, some weird stuff could happen and Luigi could steal away first. Or some just plain bat**** insane stuff like Ganon and Luigi splitting votes with each other to the point where Mudkip advances, but neither scenario is all that likely.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Ganondorf > Luigi

Moltar’s Prediction is: Ganondorf: 36% - Luigi: 31% - Mudkip: 23% - Vergil: 10%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Damn these Pokethings.

Thanks to Bidoof’s shenanigans a couple days ago leading Vincent for an hour, Mudkip has gotten a strange amount of consideration for an upset here. I’m certainly not buying that a freakin’ Pokemon can beat Luigi or Ganondorf even with the possibility for some type of SFF here being high. At the same time, though, if it were to happen, I can’t say I’d be terribly surprised – augh gamefaqs.

There’s more to this match than Mudkip, though. What happens here will pretty much determine who ends up coming out of this division. I’m not expecting to see SFF favor one character here dominantly, which is usually with the case with Nintendo characters, but instead more of a split. Ganon and Luigi aren’t going to be at their best here by any means, but I think both of them are strong enough, and have their own distinct fanbases, that both can do well here.

But – if for whatever reason Ganon SFFs Luigi into the ground, or vice versa, that damnable Mudkip stands a good shot at moving on here. It’s the “joke vote,” and probably doesn’t have to worry about any sort of SFF at all. Pokemon have been doing well in this contest despite it, and with any chance of that 4chan nonsense, we could see Mudkip getting dangerously close to second place if SFF just completely ruins Ganon or Luigi.

I’m not expecting that to happen, though. I think Ganon ends up come out ahead by a couple thousand votes over Luigi. This should, at the very least, put to rest some of the stuff about how Ganon is incapable of getting SFF, or will collapse to just about any Nintendo character he’s up against.
dammit mudkip stay away from second

Ganon – 30%
Luigi – 30%
Mudkip – 25%
Vergil – 15%


Bracket: Ganon > Luigi
Vote: Ganon


Yoblazer’s Analysis

Ah, finally. It's the match that will decide my fate in this contest! If I'm right, I'll be well on my way to avenging what so far has been a disaster of a bracket. If I'm wrong, I'll be eliminated from the Guru contest and my bracket will be *torn* for the eighteenth and final time. What do I think is going to happen?

*tears bracket*
Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 9:18:27 PM | message detail | #041
Nah, just kidding. I still think I have a chance, although it's a pretty small one. My risk, as some of you may know, is picking Luigi to win today (and, consequently, beat Ganondorf and then Master Chief in the next two rounds). It might sound crazy, but I don't really see why. Before putting up a crappy performance against Sonic (a match which probably had some SFF action going on), Luigi pancaked Zero and beat Kirby. He ain't a weakling, and I think he'll be able to hold his own here. While Ganondorf may be indirectly stronger, we've hardly ever seen this guy in SFF-situations, and I just have this feeling that he's going to drop the ball. So yeah, I based my risk on SFF. In my defense, at least we know SFF is something this match will feature heaping helpings of; I'm just hoping against hope that my Italian stallion gobbles up the most.

Oh, and as for Mudkip. **** him. ^o^

Luigi - 33%
Ganondorf - 31%
Mudkip - 21%
Vergil - 15%


Lopen’s Analysis

I was thinkin for this match... maybe Luigi or Pigman will have some bad mojo with one another and allow Vergil to slip through, but Vergil didn't look too hot last round... you know what people say did though?

This... thing. I don't know what it is, but it has to be stopped. Seeing the crap the cretin beaver pulled last time, I'd say this thing is a very real threat to Luigi or Pigman.. in the first hour or two, anyway. The cretin beaver proved to be pretty worthless after its reserves of cheaters ran out, and I suspect the same will happen with this thing.

It looked alright against Luigi, but even look alright he's got a lot of ground to make up... and I'm not so sure if that was this garbage looking good or Luigi looking bad, frankly. Weej barely even doubled Pit last round, I'm not sure how seriously he is to be taken in this format. Or maybe the sick Nintendo split just made him look worse? Well, the sick Nintendo split continues in this match. I wanted to say Weej gets more of the pie than Pigman relative to his strength, but I'm not quite as sure anymore after last round. I still think he will when the big boys come in, but for now Pigman's strength advantage will power through.

Alright, point here is this: The Pokemon is not to be feared. Well, maybe Vergil should fear it... man I hope not. I dunno, 30% on Luigi's four pack in a SFF split match or 20% on Ganondorf's? Tough. I've gotta say Vergil makes that scum into seafood soup though. Hell, he'll probably kick Luigi's and Ganondorf's ass too. Oh yeah, the honchos here are censoring the violence for the kiddies... but rest assured, the true to life match pic is Vergil standing above three bloody carcasses. That all amounts to Vergil winning with 82%... too bad GameFAQs can't add votes right.

Lopen's prediction:
Bloody Pigman Carcass - 33.90%
Bloody Plumber Carcass - 26.21%
Vergil - 22.49%
Bloody Thing Carcass - 17.50%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Luigi

The eternal understudy lets Mudkip get worryingly close to him last round (despite the victory technically being a very comfortable one). Not only may he be aiming to potentially upend Ganondorf, doubtful as it may be... but is he vulnerable to upset from Mudkip?

Mudkip

The next GODDAMN POKEMON gets worryingly blah blah Luigi blah blah... Can he upend Luigi and be one of potentially TWO Pokes that make the third round?

haha Mewtwo argh

Ganondorf

Ganondorf puts up a pretty dominating performance last round, and all but seals a first place here outside of wacky SFF shenanigans. The question is how well it will stand up against legitimate competition.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 9:18:49 PM | message detail | #042
Vergil

Pretty much out of it here, Vergil should look good nonetheless being up against three Nintendos and all. Not that he should finish higher than dead last, but all the same...

I've bet against Pokemon every round. Every match. It always fails. I have no regrets.

That being said, I feel Luigi will get SFFed here. He has never held up that well with it in the past, outside of perhaps the exception of Kirby. Ganondorf *can* SFF I feel, leech that he is. And Mudkip... Pokemon seems to be as immune to SFF as FFVII. I'm taking Mudkip here to advance. He's got 4chan, recognizability, the best picture in the match, and I hate it. All the things are in place for it to advance.

And hopefully that'll jinx it. <_<

Karma Hunter's Vote: LUIGI OR GANONDORF, WHATEVER'S CLOSEST TO LOSING TO MUDKIP
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Ganondorf with 39%, Mudkip with 26%, Luigi with 21%, Vergil with 14%

...how disturbing.

Upset Probability: 65%

Not that I'm confident in ANY result here. Luigi can easily come in second, or even perhaps first! Ganondorf not placing at all would be somewhat awesome if we don't remember it comes at the expense of Mudkip advancing...



Transience’s Analysis

I've been saying for a while that I think "joke characters" are fairly static -- they pull in a certain percentage regardless of strength or trends. CATS has long been the example, and Sephiroth did *much* better once CATS wasn't there to take up percentage. people perceived Link to be doing bad for the same thing vs. Bidoof, even though he nearly doubled Vincent despite Zelda being in the same poll.

enter Mudkip.

Mudkip pulled nearly 28% in a match with Luigi. in this match, Luigi and Ganondorf are going to be splitting votes. if Mudkip even approaches that 28% number again, one of them has a very real chance of being eliminated. if one of them "SFFs" the other, it might not even be a close match. Mudkip has the potential to be very, very scary. if he advances, he'll be against three decently strong characters that will be splitting votes fairly evenly -- can u say Mudkip to round 4

there's one thing that bothers me about the 'kip, though -- he didn't have "joke trends". yeah, he did great in the first hour, but he wasn't beating Luigi the first hour and then dropping like hell when the day vote came. he got 28.55% of the votes in the first hour and about the same amount come daytime. he actually had some 33% updates overnight while Bidoof went from 25% to 9%. (though to be fair, I think 4chan was down during the opening hours of the Luigi poll) Mudkip may be a horrible internet fad, but it's also a legitimate character that I think has natural strength outside of "lol mudkipz". if that's the case, it probably doesn't have much of a chance when you introduce a character from the most popular series on the site. Ganondorf may not have the most dedicated fans (shut up moltar), but he's never shown a weakness to anything but Link. he even held up pretty good against Samus.

beyond that, there's the question of who's higher up in the Nintendo hierarchy -- Luigi or Ganondorf? I had Luigi for a good portion of the bracketmaking period because I didn't trust the 'dorf too much, but the more I thought about it, the more impressive I realized he was outside of that Link match. Luigi probably gets killed by Mario, too. given how Link beat Mario back when and how Zelda >> Mario on this site, I think Ganondorf can beat Luigi fairly easily. the question will be if he "SFFs" him hard enough to lose to Mudkip?
Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 9:19:29 PM | message detail | #043
it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility, but I'm sticking with Weegee here. I'm not convinced on Mudkip bringing in that same 28%, though he might pull it off anyway just due to the shared fanbase. Mudkip's trends don't indicate someone that can repeat that percentage like Bidoof did.

now, L-Block, on the other hand...

Mudkip's got a chance
Luigi's votes will be split
but he should hang on

transience's prediction: Ganondorf with 38.01%, Luigi with 27.65%, Mudkip with 24.60%, Vergil with 9.74%



Crew Consensus: Ganondorf > Luigi, but POKEFEAR lies near.
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 9:21:29 PM | message detail | #044
...Another one with no guest writeup? =/

I would do it but I'm too busy not doing English that also happens to be due by Midnight. D:
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/12/2007 9:25:23 PM | message detail | #045
Gotta post late again.

LUIGI VS MUDKIP VS GANONDORF VS VERGIL

Vergil is the only non-Nintendo character here, and should thus be the only one unaffected by SFF. Unfortunately, he's too weak to be worth anything.

The other three are where the fun is. Plenty of whiny brats whined their whiny whine last round, whining about Mudkip taking second place and blaming 4chan and blah blah blah. Fad power being sooooooo great sure has racked up a lot of contest wins for CATS and Phoenix Wright. Genius ascertaion of events, Mudkip haters.

You should get some vindication here however, as no amount of rSFF will allow Mudkip to catch up to characters as strong as Ganondorf as Luigi. The issue lies in the order of those two. I have Ganon > Luigi in my bracket, but I'm not confident in it. Ganon is stronger, but it just feels like Luigi would SFF him heads up.

Screw it, going with Ganon >= Luigi and not looking back. Yeeah boi.

PREDICTION

Ganon 28%
Luigi 27%
Mudkip 25%
Vergil 20%

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/12/2007 9:29:20 PM | message detail | #046
Somebody else take my guest spot, I can't do this, I'm not good at it, I tried it and I just can't >_<
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/12/2007 9:34:26 PM | message detail | #047
Ok, I'll have a try at this one. I'll take the guest spot.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 9:35:01 PM | message detail | #048
You're going to cancel the Guest Spot for the next contest, aren't you? =/
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satai_delenn | Posted 10/12/2007 9:36:48 PM | message detail | #049
Canceling the guest spot is a bad idea...! >_>
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/12/2007 9:38:27 PM | message detail | #050
Maybe the format is turning some people off to writing? These matches are more complicated to analyze, and I think there's generally some pressure amongst guests to put forth a really long/quality write-up.
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