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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2

Lady Ashe | Posted 10/2/2007 10:44:38 PM | message detail | #351
From trannyscience Posted 10/2/2007 11:35:23 PM #350
Nukem's got a good chance here, just like Ike. it's far from a lock that Ike takes second here.

who knows what the hell is going to happen here.


HM.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2007 10:46:01 PM | message detail | #352
if only there was a god
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xyzzy
"And just to clear up any remaining confusion, tranny > icon." -Shaggy
DpObliVion | Posted 10/3/2007 3:41:44 AM | message detail | #353
Damn it, I originally had Duke > Gordon, but the board made me flip them after seeing so many people with Duke in 3rd!

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See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket 86/116
Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 4:04:02 AM | message detail | #354
Who listens to the board, really? Be bold, Dp! Be bold.

The Duke is here to get votes and send feedback tickets, and he's all out of feedback tickets.
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"GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:16:11 AM | message detail | #355
Aeris Gainsborough.....25.48% 33367
Akuma.............................23.05% 30185
Geno...............................16.14% 21141
Squall Leonhart............35.33% 46278
TOTAL VOTES...........................130971

23.64% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
18.03% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

56.12% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
55.78% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Albert Wesker....24.12%30518
Daxter...................8.17% 10334
Lara Croft..........25.84% 32698
Sora....................41.87% 52982
TOTAL VOTES...............126532

30.16% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
35.58% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

45.52% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
33.98% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew bracket: 99/120

Squall and Aeris, Sora and Lara. All predictable outcomes, though in both matches, the third place character made more of a match out of it then we thought.



Crew Prediction Challenge - KH gets a point and HM gets one as well.

Yoblazer - 5
Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi) - 5
Lopen - 4
HM - 3
KH - 3
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - HM and Yo get a point for Squall, Guest gets a point for Aeris, Moltar gets the point for Akuma, and Ulti and Guest get points for Geno. HM and Yo get points for Sora, HM and Ulti get points for Lara, Ulti gets the point for Wesker, and Lopen gets a point for Daxter.

Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "4", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2") - 22
Yoblazer - 22
HM - 22
Moltar - 15
Lopen - 15
Ulti - 15
Tran - 12
KH - 10
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Duke/Ike/Gordon/Guybrush - Bracket: Gordon > Duke - Vote: Duke (101/120)
Tatl | Posted 10/3/2007 11:04:24 AM | message detail | #356
Noooooo!!!!

Ike must win!



Aw...screw it!


I've lost too many points to care anymore.
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Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion!
Go Midna!
ZFS | Posted 10/3/2007 11:05:03 AM | message detail | #357
I wonder where I went wrong today.

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let's mosey
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 7:12:26 PM | message detail | #358
You went too low on Guybrush imho.

And the last match of Round 1 write-ups go up today! Long time fans of the Crew know what that means!
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Duke/Ike/Gordon/Guybrush - Bracket: Gordon > Duke - Vote: Duke (101/120)
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/3/2007 7:14:14 PM | message detail | #359
I'm not a long-time fan, but I can't remember what that meant last year, either. =/
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ZFS | Posted 10/3/2007 7:15:33 PM | message detail | #360
I'm on the crew and have no idea what the end of round 1 means!

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let's mosey
Gaddswell | Posted 10/3/2007 7:17:05 PM | message detail | #361
What? What does it mean? Tell us Moltar!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/3/2007 7:26:13 PM | message detail | #362
oh god

epic Moltar writeup incoming!
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/3/2007 7:26:23 PM | message detail | #363
Is it cake? I like cake. :x
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/3/2007 7:29:58 PM | message detail | #364
...Ohhh, I remember now.

Uh oh.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/3/2007 8:47:06 PM | message detail | #365
Sent my pick in email Moltar.
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Today's Pick: Ness > Liquid Snake
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:07:22 PM | message detail | #366
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 32 – Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Sub-Zero vs. Prince of Persia vs. Viewtiful Joe

Moltar’s Analysis

Sonic
Game/Series Known From: Sonic the Hedgehog
Seed in 2002: 1
Seed in 2003: 2
Seed in 2004: 1
Seed in 2005: 1
Seed in 2006: 1
Lost in 2002 to Samus in Round 3
Lost in 2003 to Cloud in the Elite 8
Lost in 2004 to Samus in the Elite 8
Lost in 2005 to Mega Man in the Elite 8
Lost in 2006 to Solid Snake in the Final 4

His games get worse, but performances get better.

Sub-Zero
Game/Series Known From: Mortal Kombat
Seed in 2006: 7
Lost in 2006 to Auron in Round 2

Surprisingly strong.

Prince
Game/Series Known From: Prince of Persia
Seed in 2006: 6
Lost in 2006 to Kirby in Round 1

Didn’t we already see a Prince in action?

Joe
Game/Series Known From: Viewtiful Joe
Seed in 2004: 5
Lost in 2004 to Tails in Round 1

Pretty sad Contest history. A loss to Tails.

Moltar Productions Inc. Presents: End of Round One Blowout Extravaganza Analysis Special Live 2007 – The Reckoning!

*We know bring you to our Awards Ceremony, already in progess.*

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1278/clappingtb6.gif

Moltar: Another well-deserved award. Alright, for those folks just tuning in, I’m Moltar, and your host for the Character Battle Awards! I did have a date tonight, but those plans got cancelled once she got red rings and died on me. *pauses*

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5824/mthmidnightcrowdvn7.jpg

Moltar: …Anyway, tonight has been a great night so far. We’ve already seen the award for Best CB6 Movie Adaptation go to “9000”.

*clip starts up*

Tidus: What does the scouter say about the enemy’s numbers?

Pit: IT’S OVER 9000!!!

Tidus: Impossible, we can’t take on all those Pokémon! This is madness!

Kratos: THIS IS GAMEFAQS! *kicks Tidus down hole*

*clip ends*

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1278/clappingtb6.gif

Moltar: Also, in a bit of a surprise, the winner of the award for Best Looking Female Final Fantasy 7 Character Whose Not A Spoiler, was not the same as previous years before. In the past, one woman had a death grip on the title, but this year, it went to Midgar Zolom! I’m guessing our usual winner isn’t too happy to see she got snubbed. This must be quite the horrible Fantasy, huh?

Audience: http://i24.tinypic.com/34ef1qu.jpg

*cut to a living room, where Tifa is lying on a couch with chips in one hand and a bucket of ice cream in the other, wearing a grease-stained t-shirt and no pants*

Tifa: Oh ha ha, you think you’re so funny. You know what, **** you all! *shoves face in food*

Ocelot, Shadow, Tails, Aeris and all the other members of The Snubs: lulz what

Moltar: Later on, we have the only awards worth caring about, Game of the Year and Character of the Forever, but now, we have our award for Best Character Duo! Presenting the award will be quite the dynamic duo themselves. Please welcome, from Metal Gear Solid, Solid Snake and Raiden!

Audience: http://i20.tinypic.com/9u9kkj.jpg

*Solid Snake and Raiden take the mic*

Snake: Now, I’m a little bit smoking badass.

Raiden: And I’m a little bit naked cartwheels.

Snake: But we still find a way to get thr…hold on, I got a codec coming in.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:08:19 PM | message detail | #367
Raiden: Oopsie! I’ll finish this, since you’ll be busy for about 20 minutes. Our nominees for Best Character Duo are…Sonic and Tails in “Sonic’s Last Adventure”

*clip of Tails holding a dying Sonic in his arms*

Sonic: Tails…never forget what we were.

Tails: I’ll always remember you, my brotha.

Raiden: Scorpion and Sub-Zero in “Combat Immortal”

*clip of Scorpion and Sub-Zero chasing some guys*

Scorpion: Get over here!

Sub-Zero: no u

Raiden: Prince of Persia and Sands of Time in “Prince Goes to the Beach – Age 7”

*clip of young Prince playing in the sand*

Prince: aww yeah

Raiden: And Joe and Silvia in “Captain Blueballs”

Silvia: Oh *bleep*! Oh *bleep*! Oh *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* you *bleep* *bleep* with *bleep* *bleep* and take it and put it *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* polynomial x^3 *bleep* *bleep* *bleep*.

Joe: Math is fun!

Raiden: And the winner is…a four way tie?

Audience: http://i23.tinypic.com/vpwzgn.jpg

Sonic: What? I’m not sharing my award with these clowns.

Sub-Zero: The award is mine!

Prince: aww no

Joe: Let’s fight for it!

Moltar: How about the audience? What do you guys want to see? A rrrrrumble?

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5824/mthmidnightcrowdvn7.jpg

Moltar: …I got a better idea. We’ll have a mini-tournament. The ones who get the highest praises this round move on to the next. This round will be a talent round, and our three judges will represent the whole video game spectrum. From Microsoft, we have Master Chief!

Master Chief: Alright dawgs, bring it to me and I’ll see if it’s half as good as GAME FUEL.

Moltar: From Nintendo we have Peach!

Peach: Do your best everyone!

Ulti: aww yeah, predicted that.

Moltar: And from Square, we have Kefka!

Kefka: I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE EVERYTHING!

Sony: What about us?

Moltar: I think you guys should be worried about your dying console more than not getting a spot on the judges panel, am I right audience?

Audience: http://i23.tinypic.com/2laqb2h.gif

Joe: I’ll go first. My talent is this! *turns into Viewtiful Joe, speeds up time, slows down time, zooms in on self*

Audience: http://i24.tinypic.com/34ef1qu.jpg

Master Chief: Yo, that was weak. Dawg, I know what you can do in a game, but this ain’t Halo 3 now in stores buy more copies, homez.

Peach: Um..you gave it your best shot!

Kefka: I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE IT!

Prince: I’m going next! *pulls out beatbox* Listen to this rhyme! *beat starts up*

This ain’t no haiku
So don’t call me orange
All I’m telling you
Is to suck my…..augh wate i mess up

*Uses sand of time to rewind, beat starts up*

Here I go now
On the attack
I have a dream
That one day…augh wate one more time

*runs out of sand*

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5824/mthmidnightcrowdvn7.jpg

Master Chief: I need a weapon and some GAME FUEL.

Peach: I need to lie down.

Kefka: I need moar HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!

Sub-Zero: My turn! GIVE ME PRAISE OR I WILL KILL YOU!

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1278/clappingtb6.gif

Master Chief: You did your thing dawg. Good job.

Peach: Wonderful!

Kefka: HATE but not much.

Sonic: Alright, here’s my talent. I made Sonic game!

Audience: http://i24.tinypic.com/34ef1qu.jpg

Sonic: That plays like the speed levels in Sonic Adventure

Audience: http://i20.tinypic.com/9u9kkj.jpg

Sonic: With none of my other ****ty friends.

Audience: http://i23.tinypic.com/vpwzgn.jpg

Sonic: Produced alongside with…not Sega, but Nintendo!

Audience: http://i23.tinypic.com/8vptw2.jpg
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:08:51 PM | message detail | #368
Master Chief: Dawg… I Believe. That’s better than GAME FUEL!

Peach: As excellent as my flawless ass!

Kefka: I LOVE IT!

Audience: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1278/clappingtb6.gif

Moltar: So it looks like Sonic and Sub-Zero are the ones to advance to the next round! So now, who takes first?

Sub-Zero: There’s only one way to settle that. *rolls up sleeves*

Sonic: I see what you’re getting at. *gets in a fighting stance*

Sub-Zero: A battle to end all battles.

Sonic: Only one will survive.

Sub-Zero: No second chances.

Sonic: No time for failure.

Sub-Zero: You and me.

Sonic: 1 on 1

Sub-Zero: No items.

Sonic: Marth or Fox only.

Both: FINAL DESTINATION

*match happens*

Sub-Zero: cheap noob

Sonic: I win!

Moltar: Sonic is the winner! He takes first and Sub-Zero takes second! I hope you all enjoyed the analysis!

Audience: http://i20.tinypic.com/2i0axz4.jpg

Moltar: I mean the awards show!

Tifa: augh *changes channel*

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sonic > Sub-Zero > Prince > Joe

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic: 45% - Sub-Zero: 29% - Prince: 16% - Joe: 11%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

If Kratos or Master Chief were in the place of one of the two generic platformer characters, this would be a *great* match. As it stands, Sonic > Sub-Zero is the massively consensus pick for not one, but *two* rounds. They're that far ahead of everyone else in this little group of four that any other result would be a huge upset.

Ulti's Prediction:

Sonic [45.00%]
Sub-Zero [31.00%]
Prince [13.00%]
Joe [11.00%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Sonic – 42%
Sub-Zero – 30%
Prince of Persia – 16%
Viewtiful Vote – 10%


This match should be fun. After seeing every Sonic character underperform expectations, I don’t think too many people are going to be surprised when Sonic doesn’t come out looking like a beast here -- cue the Ganon / Master Chief upset trains! I’m not a big fan of Sonic anyway, so if he really bombs, I can’t say I’ll be too upset! It’d be fun seeing everyone going crazy over the idea of Master Chief having a shot at the finals.

On the other hand, I’m expecting to see some good things from Sub-Zero. Every fighting game character up to this point has performed really well, and Sub’s second to only Ryu from the bunch we’ve seen -- getting 40% on post-KH2 Auron is no joke. Given that fighting game characters seem to be favored more in this format, Sub-Zero making this a somewhat close match wouldn’t surprise me all that much. Now if he ends up within a couple of thousand votes or something ridiculous, I’d say that would be more of Sonic sucking than anything else. Gotta make sure that Mortal Kombat isn’t given too much credit, after all!

But yeah, this match is only good for seeing how Sonic and Sub-Zero perform. There’s no debate on the placement of any of these guys. The hedgehog with an easy first, Sub with second, Prince with a distant third and Viewtiful Joe fighting to stay above 10% (YOU ARE NO GUYBRUSH GET OUTTA HERE).

Man, this analysis sucked. Bring on round 2!

Bracket: Sonic > Sub-Zero

Vote: Prince of Persia
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:09:29 PM | message detail | #369
Yoblazer’s Analysis

Lord all mighty, I can't tell you how thankful I am that this first round has come to an end. Don't get me wrong; by nearly all counts, it was a superb month of matches, with excitement galore and completely unexpected happenings as the norm. However, it's just not as much fun knowing that you have, in some way, shape, or form, missed half of the matches. It's depleted me a bit, but I never forget that this round, long as it may be, represents only 1/6 of the total contest points. Yep, someone who correctly predicts the finals winner will earn just as many points as someone with a perfect first round. And that, THAT'S WHERE I MAKE MY LIVIN', BOYS. SO WATCH OUT.

Anyway, before we move on to what could be an excellent Round 2 opener, we have to close the book on this old boy, and we have four badasses of gaming to help us do it. You know who I'm talkin bout yeah I'm talkin about Sonic, Sub-Zero, the Prince of Persia, and Viewtiful Joe.

The first and last place finishers are clear as crystal. Our winner will be gaming icon and Noble 9er extraordinaire, Sonic. Our last place finisher will be Viewtiful Joe, who doesn't have the broad appeal or popular games that his three opponents share. Sub-Zero and The Prince of Persia will constitute the meat of this fourpack sandwich. While it's not as obvious as first and fourth, I believe Sub-Zero is the overwhelming favorite to advance right behind Sonic, and for very good reason. While the Prince put up a decent performance against Kirby last year, Subz beat Master Chief in an end-of-round-one shocker that had fanboys orgasming with glee. He then held up very well to a powered up Auron, proving that his strength was legitimate and not a byproduct of Master Chief hate.

To top it all off, his buddy, Scorpion, had an excellent match early in the bracket, and we all know Sub Zero is stronger anyway because blue>>>>yellow and I dare you to find me a product of the 90's who thinks differently. Sadly for Prince, he truly got the shaft here. He could have easily advanced in some other fourpacks, and I think the casually killer combo of Sonic and Sub-Zero will make him look weaker than he deserves. Here's to hoping enough people think he's worth a return trip next year.

Sonic the Hedgehog - 43%
Sub-Zero - 27%
The Prince of Persia - 18%
Viewtiful Joe - 12%



Lopen’s Analysis

Hoo boy, Sonic's got a ROUGH four pack.

Sub-Zero, Prince of Persia, and Viewtiful Joe? What the hell happened when this bracket was being made? Was there a crap quota for every match in this division, and then at the end there wasn't any crap left? I mean man, stick any of these guys into one of the last two matches and we've got more fun to go around. Sonic and Sub-Zero should be beating down Playstation Platforming Character #26 and that island dwelling bastard that keeps getting into these contests. Joe and the Prince are getting the shaft here. Midcarders as they be, I don't think either one is in Sub Zero's league, so this match isn't very debatable.

Man, Sonic's got no hope of breaking 50% like most of his NNer friends did. Sucka's gonna struggle to break 40%. The man throwing three very solid competitors in here, trying to make Sonic look bad? I don't know. And meanwhile, Sub-Zero has got the "hay look I'm from a fighting game" factor helping him. Trust me, it exists!

Fight the man, Sonic. Fight him!

Lopen's Prediction:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 40.01%
Sub-Zero - 28.38%
Prince of Persia - 16.45%
Viewtiful Joe - 15.16%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

uh oh last day of round 1 writeups you know what that means !!

...since I'm undoubtedly going to be overshadowed here, I'll try to keep things succinct.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:09:55 PM | message detail | #370
Sonic the Hedgehog

The final Noble Niner rounds out our final match of the round. Does he have what it takes to upend Snake... or will he be upended himself by some green hype machine with his own soda? THE ANSWERS START NOW DAMMIT

Sub-Zero

The star newcomer of last contest, Subby needs to show people that he's not a fluke... and maybe get upsets rumbling in the later rounds (yay Squall/Aeris or Squall/Sora SFF).

The Prince of Persia

Another 2k6 newcomer, PoP couldn't make nearly as much of a splash and stands as a decent low-midcarder without too much of a prayer here. Unless he benefits from his Xbox fanbase boosting or his Wii remake making waves lolz (if only... please)

Viewtiful Joe

He who lost comfortably to Tails in his only contest appearance. Joe ain't gonna place here, but he might surprise... perhaps for the worse, however.

Well, this is relatively straightforward... Sonic wins, Sub-Zero places, Prince and Joe come behind respectively. You can make the argument that Subby is overrated, but looking at Scorpion - does it even MATTER? Plus he's got his class picture here... so unless you're banking on blue SFF or a PoP boost, we're just down to percentages. This is clearly the strongest pack fed to a Noble... can Sonic impress? He should break 40... from there, I can only guess.

And that's never a good thing.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Prince of Persia. Some say contest strength is like a river, that flows swift and true in one direction. But I have seen the face of these polls, and I can tell you - they are wrong.
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 43%, Sub-Zero with 26%, Prince of Persia with 22%, Viewtiful Joe with 9%

Around expectations for SNOIC, Sub wins, PoP impresses (beLIEve), Joe bomba. Any questions? oh god plz say no

Upset Probability: 10%

This is as much for PoP upending Subs as it is for Joe upending PoP. This should be pretty straightforward, but if Sub-Zero was truly overrated and is actually on par with Scorpion (don't believe it for a second, btw), this could get semi-interesting if PoP has gotten any more strength. Pretty unlikely though... he's got that same meh WW picture.



Transience’s Analysis

hello, casual bait! all four of these guys are well-known, which is probably a first for this contest.

I'm really interested in how Sonic does here. Knuckles and Shadow both looked pretty bad compared to expectations, and while Sonic doesn't have a very interesting path, it's possible he loses to Master Chief or something in the semis. I'd like to see a nice performance out of him here. I don't expect 50%, but 45 would be a nice number for him to aim for.

Sub-Zero's a good bit ahead of the Prince and should come in second no problem. his picture makes what's a barely debatable match almost guaranteed. Sub-Zero's got a chance to top Squall/Aeris/Sora thanks to them splitting votes in round 3, and if he impresses enough that hypewagon is going to get louder and louder.

but yeah, as far as this match goes, there's nothing to say. this match is all about comparing this performance to the rest of division 8.

are we there yet? no
the fodder is almost gone
round 2 tomorrow

transience's prediction: Sonic with 43.43%, Sub-Zero with 29.56%, Prince of Persia with 17.00%, Viewtiful Joe with 10.01%
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 9:10:33 PM | message detail | #371
Guest’s Analysis - DaruniaTheGoron

We're down to the final match of round 1! Deciding the winners of this won't be the hard part, unlike most of the previous matches (I have a dismal 84 points so far). Sonic and Subby have this locked up. Deciding the percentages will be much tougher.

Sonic is looking strong off his performance last year. He beat Vincent and Crono and Luigi decisively, and got 45% on a Snake that was on 'roids, which was better than how Mega Man performed.

I would say that Sonic is a lock to get 50% in this match, however, his opponents look much tougher than the usual lame fourpacks we've been getting. Sub Zero is no slouch, getting 40% on Auron was no easy task. The Prince of Persia got 40% on Kirby as well. Viewtiful Joe performed decently in 2004 (this is rather dated though). Another factor is the fact that all of these characters seem like they would have at least somewhat of a dedicated fanbase behind them.

Other members of the Noble Nine have struggled to get 50% against fodderific characters, so I'm going to lower Sonic a bit and give him 42%. Scorpion got 36% against MUCH weaker competition, so I'll go with 27% for Sub-Zero in this match. Prince, this is a guess mostly, but I'll take 17% for him. Viewtiful Joe, seems like he'll have some backing so I'll give him 14% as well.

Official Prediction:
Sonic - 42%
Sub-Zero - 27%
Prince of Persia - 17%
Viewtiful Joe - 14%



Crew Consensus: Round 1 ends with a whimper as Sonic > Sub-Zero.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/3/2007 9:12:52 PM | message detail | #372
haha what in the world
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CB6 - 91/120; Oracle - 20th
Loqutus | Posted 10/3/2007 9:14:44 PM | message detail | #373
All across the board, very consistent.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/3/2007 9:15:39 PM | message detail | #374
loving the audience's reaction to sonic. <_<
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/3/2007 9:29:43 PM | message detail | #375
If my prediction is close I'm gonna be battling yo for the point. Almost the exact same...
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SC2k7: 53/76, tied for 1402nd
Today's Pick: Ness > Liquid Snake
Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 9:42:22 PM | message detail | #376
XD Moltar... that was awesome.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 10:03:44 PM | message detail | #377
aww yeah, Lopen smile of approval

I've done my job.
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Sonic/Sub-Zero/Prince/Joe - Bracket: Sonic > Sub-Zero - Vote: Sonic (103/124)
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/3/2007 10:17:38 PM | message detail | #378
Analysis for tomorrow set.

DID YOU RECIEVE [CONFIRM/DENY]
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Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor.
CB6 - 91/120; Oracle - 20th
Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2007 10:22:17 PM | message detail | #379
Confirm
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Sonic/Sub-Zero/Prince/Joe - Bracket: Sonic > Sub-Zero - Vote: Sonic (103/124)
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/3/2007 10:24:46 PM | message detail | #380
Huh, didn't realize my match was so soon. Better get to thinking about how I can justify Marcus > Cloud. D:
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/3/2007 10:31:04 PM | message detail | #381
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis:

Oh, man, this one hurts me. Usually I'm lucky if there's one character in a match that I care about. There's been a bunch where I don't even care about any of the four. And then, there's this match....

Anyone who knows me knows how much I love Sonic. I also love Prince of Persia though, certainly in my Top 5 non-DW characters. And I like Sub-Zero a lot, too! It's a damn shame that Prince of Persia is stuck in this match, I want him to win one so badly, he deserves it....and I can't even vote for him here!

But Sub-Zero has shown he is pretty dangerous with the casual vote. Then again, Sonic should take a lot of the casual vote, and Viewtiful Joe may as well. Prince of Persia certainly has a chance to sneak past those two and take 2nd place, but I'm not counting it.

I am a bit worried though that Sonic will "underperform" here. But it won't necessarily be a sign of weakness, though people will likely take it that way. While not too strong, none of his 3 competitors would be considered fodder (well....maybe Joe, but he's the only Nintendo here), and they all seem to have distinct fanbases. It could result in a more even distribution of votes than we've seen other top competitors be lucky enough to avoid.

Either way....GO SONIC! AND GO PRINCE!

(And damn it, this board better not cost me 4 points in 2 matches.)

DpOblivion's bracket says: Sonic > Sub-Zero

DpOblivion's prediction is: Sonic > Sub-Zero

Confidence Rating: 70%

Sonic - 42%
Sub-Zero - 23%
Prince of Persia - 19%
Viewtiful Joe - 16%


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See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket 88/120
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2007 5:49:52 PM | message detail | #382
Duke Nukem.....................30.18% 38913
Ike.......................................28.76% 37086
Gordon Freeman.............29.57% 38131
Guybrush Threepwood..11.49% 14817
TOTAL VOTES..............................128947

54.28% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
49.37% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

23.87% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
27.33% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew bracket: 100/120

A three-way brawl for the top ends up with Duke taking first of all characters. Gordon takes a close second and Ike takes a close third.



Crew Prediction Challenge - Lopen hits, Lopen hits!

Yoblazer - 5
Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi) - 5
Lopen - 5
HM - 3
KH - 3
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Guest gets points for Gordon and Duke, Tran gets points for Ike and Godbrush

Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "4", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2", Bio "2") - 24
Yoblazer - 22
HM - 22
Moltar - 15
Lopen - 15
Ulti - 15
Tran - 14
KH - 10
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Sonic/Sub-Zero/Prince/Joe - Bracket: Sonic > Sub-Zero - Vote: Sonic (103/124)
DpObliVion | Posted 10/4/2007 5:52:24 PM | message detail | #383
Go Guests!

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See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket *LETS GO SONIC!*
Lopen | Posted 10/4/2007 6:54:44 PM | message detail | #384
Whoop! Finally one of my upset picks hits alone.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2007 9:38:46 PM | message detail | #385
Moltar’s Analysis

Yoshi
Round 1 – 35.48% vs. Knuckles, Rikku and Vaan

Yoshi easily walks over his competition.

Knuckles
Round 1 – 27.84% vs. Yoshi, Rikku and Vaan

Almost losing to Rikku? What happened, Knux?

Mega Man
Round 1 – 50.49% vs. KOS-MOS, Arthas and Diablo

Can’t expect less from Noble Niner.

KOS-MOS
Round 1 – 18.43% vs. Mega Man, Arthas and Diablo

Diablo wasn’t her problem here, Arthas was.

Oh boy, I’ve been so caught up in Round 1 that I nearly forgot we have a Round 2 coming up! Better start writing these analyses!

Anyway, I’m surprised about my performance so far. To think that I would have the top bracket on GameFAQs after Round 1 is just…mind-blowing. Of course, it comes down to the later rounds in this contest, especially with the crazy amount of points the later matches are. Therefore, I’m not feeling confident about getting a prize, or even finishing on the leaderboard yet.

So, the match, yeah. Round 2 is starting off with a doozy. Mega Man is the clear favorite to take first here. Of course, since his opponents are actually decent now, don’t expect him to slaughter like Round 1.

The big debate here is Knuckles vs. Yoshi for second. KOS-MOS has a small chance to slip into second, but it’s doubtful with all these strong opponents around her.

Last round, Yoshi did much better on his group than most expected, while Knuckles failed to impress. I mean, a lot of people didn’t even consider Rikku in contention, so imagine the shock once we see her over Knuckles for a while.

So Yoshi proved his fan favorite status here, while Knuckles was just a sign of Sonic Team underwhelming. Knuckles does have one big thing going for him though, and that’s Mega Man/Yoshi back in 2005. Mega Man SFFed Yoshi into the ground in that match, and many Knuckles-hopefulls are banking on the same thing to happen here. Well, I thought it would happen too pre-Contest, but before the lock, I changed my mind.

I’m thinking I made the right choice too. I don’t really see MM hurting Yoshi too much in this kind of format. Yoshi looked too good last round, so I think his fans will pull him through. If Knuckles does advance though, it’ll be because Mega Man’s dominating Yoshi. Still…it looks like Yoshi might have hurt Knuckles last round…and I don’t even know where to begin with percentages.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mega Man > Yoshi

Moltar’s Prediction is: Mega Man: 37% - Yoshi: 26% - Knuckles: 22% - KOS-MOS: 15%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2121

Everyone is bound to bring that poll up when discussing this match, but that was two years ago. Mega Man seems to be a lot weaker today; at least, he doesn't seem strong enough to SFF Yoshi into oblivion again.

On a related note, Yoshi finished so far ahead of Knuckles in the first round that the only chance Knuckles has to come in 2nd place is for Mega Man to repeat his 2005 performance. I highly doubt this happens. As for KOS-MOS, she's no factor.

Ulti's Prediction:
Mega Man [35.00%]
Yoshi [30.00%]
Knuckles [20.00%]
KOS-MOS [15.00%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

This is as good a match as you can ask for to kick off round 2. After Yoshi’s beat down of Knuckles last round, I’m thinking that Yoshi is a good bet to move on to round 3, even with the possibility of something wonky happening there due to Mega Man. For whatever reason -- I can’t even tell you what it is -- I’ve always been skeptical of that happening in this format, even before Yoshi rocking last round. It might be that Mario favorites poll where he beat out Mario sticking out in my mind, but I’m expecting to see Yoshi performing like he would against anyone else here.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2007 9:39:28 PM | message detail | #386
But if something were to go crazy, I think Yoshi still had a strong enough of a performance last round to keep it competitive with Knuckles. If you believe that Yoshi pulled some SFF on Knuckles -- which I don’t -- then you would have to expect to see some of that again here. That said, Knuckles isn’t out of the running – far from it, in fact. I wouldn’t bat an eye if Knuckles was the one who advanced here. There’s always a possibility, even if I don’t believe it, that Mega Man will steal a good chunk of Yoshi’s fanbase while Knuckles remains unaffected.

Mega Man should perform well, too. I’m not sure what the expectations are, or even what I would consider to be a “good” performance, but somewhere between the mid to high 30s seems about right, although he could start climbing into the 40s if he whips out some SFF.

Mega Man – 35%
Yoshi – 27%
Knuckles – 25%
KOS-MOS – 13%


Bracket: Mega Man > Yoshi
Vote: Yoshi


Yoblazer’s Analysis

Ah, we've finally reached Round 2! The contest is half over, and as the matches actually mean something starting now, it's fair to say that the second half is always better, and that's a beautiful thing. However, it's a lot less beautiful for me, as I can realistically open this second round with four consecutive misses. Today will probably be the first.

It's a match between Mega Man, Yoshi, Knuckles, and KOS-MOS, and I, like most other Board 8ers, have Knuckles advancing behind the Noble 9er. The reasoning behind this is clear: the 2005 match between Mega Man and Yoshi. In said match, Mega Man absolutely obliterated the dino, making him look nearly as weak as Axel. It was one of the most extreme cases of SFF we'd ever seen, and it practically solidified Mega Man's status as a Nintendo character from a different company. Based on such a result, Knuckles was automatically the safe pick. He must hold up better, right?

Unfortunately for my bracket, I'm finding more and more wrenches throwing themselves at that theory. First and foremost, Yoshi beat up Knuckles pretty badly in the first round, to the tune of 8%. Even if Mega Man/Yoshi SFF rears its ugly head once more, that's still a lot of ground for Knuckles to make up. Secondly, as more time passes, it's seeming more and more like that insane MM/Yoshi result was more an anomaly spurred on by a terribly unfair picture rather than pure SFF. Would Yoshi consistently perform that poorly against Mega Man? It's very hard for me to imagine, especially after comfortably finishing in the 40's against a much stronger Solid Snake the following year. Give them a rematch with a fair picture, and I have no doubt that Yoshi would outdo his 2005 percentage with ease.

Lastly, there's a big unanswered question about Knuckles, himself. As bad as Yoshi bombed in 2005, we've never seen Knuckles in an SFF match. He's never faced a Sonic character, a Nintendo character, or anyone that could conceivably SFF him. Hell, he might hold up worse than Yoshi. How are we supposed to know? I have lingering doubts as to Knuckles's fanbase being more loyal than Yoshi's, and he's the one with 8% to make up, not his opponent. The echidna might make a match of it, but I'm going with the mean green eating machine. Goodbye, cruel bracket.

Also, I have a feeling Mega Man won't impress as much as his supporters would want him to. **** the SFF, Mega Man only overperforms on fodder or when he's shooting people in the face. YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK IN THIS PICTURE, *****.

Mega Man - 35%
Yoshi - 27%
Knuckles - 22%
KOS-MOS - 16%



Lopen’s Analysis

Well as we all know... Knuckles, he doesn't chuckle. And despite not having played her game yet, KOS-MOS doesn't seem like the type to chuckle either. Yoshi? Yoshi chuckles too much.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2007 9:40:42 PM | message detail | #387
Well you know Mega Man, he hates chucklers. Just ask KOS-MOS. She told me there was a 99.34% probability that Mega Man would target the chuckler first, blowing its face clean off. The last match supports this too. Diablo man, he's got some sense of humor. Remember that time when he used a cathedral as the gateway to hell? Oh man, delicious irony, let me tell ya. And Arthas is... well... uh... looking at the match pic it seems like his face was already blown off. No Mega Man intervention needed.

And uh... yeah, I suppose this might help my case too: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2121 (PSST YOSHI CHUCKLING MEANS NINTENDO SFF)

So what does this mean? This means despite Yoshi beating Knuckles pretty handily next round, Knuckles still has a chance here. Yoshi is going to have his support nuked by the Blue Bomber. However, will it be enough of a nuking? That's the question. Knuckles has a large defecit to overcome here, larger than I expected, and Mega Man's best efforts just might not be enough. I think (hope?) it'll succeed, but barely.

Lopen's Prediction:
Mega Man - 40.88%
Knuckles - 23.33%
Yoshi - 23.04%
KOS-MOS - 14.75%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

The second round begins! And after Sonic has looked pretty vulnerable against this competition, we'll see if the first Noble of this round can turn any of that around.

Yoshi

A dominating opening win, made even moreso by how percentages have looked this contest. Sure, Mega might SFF him, but will it even be enough with the dino's ridiculous strength in this format?

Knuckles the Echidna

Nearly lost to Rikku, what was once a sexy upset pick is now a LOOOOONG outside shot. Sure, SFF might help out there, but it's not even assured that Mega will do that to any significant degree... not to mention what he might do to Knuckles.

Mega Man

A decent first round and the Blue Bomber is back for more, this time against much sterner competition. He shouldn't be in any danger of losing here, but how will he look? Samus has MP3 in the bank (for what, ahem, little that's worth =/) and awaits soon.

KOS-MOS

An impressive win last round leaves KOS-MOS feeling good about performing here, but not much more. After all, either of the Blizzard boys would've beaten her without draining... how much will she impress here?

I feel like everyone should do good here outside of SFF sans Knuckles, and I'm going to negate the SFF here mostly because of Yoshi's weird power in this format. Should be rather clear cut, though Knuckles has a chance to upset (much like KOS-MOS has a chance to come in third!). Mega Man will look rather good if he can get anywhere near Sonic's percentage - unlikely, and other than that it's just about looking at Yoshi and Knuckles. Hopefully.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Knuckles the Echidna. For epic, um, non-suckage
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Mega Man with 35.5%, Yoshi with 28.75%, Knuckles the Echidna with 24.25%, KOS-MOS with 15%

woo decimals

Upset Prediction: 40%

No, I don't give Knuckles that much credit! Mega might end up dipping under one of these guys too, y'never know... okay, whatever <.<



Transience’s Analysis

round 2 !!

there's a lot to think about here. for starters, there's the Mega Man / Yoshi match - a match where Mega Man beat Yoshi a full 10% harder than most expected. between that and the Link/Mega Man SFF-fest from 2004, it's fairly safe to say that Mega Man has some overlap with Yoshi.

the question: how much, and how much will it affect him in this format?
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2007 9:41:36 PM | message detail | #388
that match caused a lot of people, myself included, to pick Knuckles for second. Knuckles and Yoshi are close strength-wise, so that overlap means Knuckles sneaks past Yoshi, right? it looks good, but Knuckles pretty much bombed that first round match. he was expected to stay close to Yoshi, not be in danger of losing to Rikku. in fact, Knuckles probably isn't even in this match if Vaan wasn't sucking some of Rikku's votes away. Knuckles went from 47% on Squall to 51% on Rikku. what's up with that?

it's not just Knuckles, either. you could make the argument that Yoshi "SFFed" Knuckles and that that advantage will be neutralized by Mega Man being in the poll, but Sonic characters are looking bad all over the place. Shadow looked awful vs. Auron. Sonic's currently looking pretty mediocre vs. Sub-Zero. we have no idea just how bad these performances are, but three is a trend and all three have not done well; four if you want to include Tails losing to The Boss. I'm not sure if it's the format, a Sonic decline, coincidence or what, but I just can't trust Knuckles to do much of anything in this poll. plus, if both MM/Yoshi and Yoshi/Knux have some fanbase overlap, doesn't it make sense that MM/Knux probably has some too? it's probably pretty weak, but there's a chance there. Knuckles isn't completely dead in the water here, but I'd be pretty surprised if he managed to make a match of it here.

oh, and as for KOS-MOS, I'm probably the only person who won't count her out here. she has by far the most independent fanbase of the four and if MM beats the hell out of both of these guys, KOS *could* sneak in and place. highly unlikely, but not impossible.

Mega Man/Yoshi
fanbase overlap? so what
Knuckles still loses

transience's prediction: Mega Man with 37.44%, Yoshi with 25.46%, Knuckles with 21.44%, KOS-MOS with 15.66%



Guest’s Analysis - Kleenex

Damn, the contest is half over already? Feels like it just started. Well, not really, but time does go fast. Anyway, Round 2! We've weeded through most of the fodder in this contest, so let's see what that's left us with. Mega Man, Yoshi, Knuckles and...KOS-MOS? Alright, technically she isn't fodder, but whatever. She does seem rather out of place in this fourpack, and as a result is almost assuredly taking last unless Yoshi suffers from some kind of uberSFF from Mega Man. Which brings us to the debate in today's match.

Will Mega Man SFF Yoshi enough to allow Knuckled to slip through?

Let is be known that, x-stats be damned, I still don't buy into Mega Man/2nd Tier Nintendo SFF. At least not to the effect that some people preach it. Knuckles didn't look so hot last round himself. Almost losing to Rikku? What happened there? Either way you slice it, Yoshi looked a lot better than Knuckles last round. So much better, in fact, that even if he does suffer from Mega Man's presence, I don't see it being enough to let Knuckles weasel his way into Round 3.

As for how well Mega Man does here...who's to say? I think his range is pretty big based on what he could to to Yoshi. No way in hell he hits 50%. 40% is pretty out there, too. After all, this pack is pretty tough (barring KOS-MOS). Knuckles and KOS-MOS should actually end up with values similar to what they had in Round 1, while the Green One and the Blue One battle it out for what's left.

And that's all there is to the analysis.

No limericks.
No haikus.
No upsets.

FINAL ESTIMATION: Mega Man (34.86%) > Yoshi (25.73%) > Knuckles (23.17%) > KOS-MOS (16.24%)



Crew Consensus: SFFFEAR? Not here. Mega Man > Yoshi is the majority.
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:47:33 PM | message detail | #389
Whoa, very little faith in Mega Man overall.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/4/2007 9:52:50 PM | message detail | #390
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis:

Sigh, I'm not sure what I was thinking when I left this as Mega Man > Knuckles. I switched Yoshi over Knuckles in the first round, but not the second. I think it was more of a compromise, like....fine, I'll go against my fanboyism in one of these matches, but not both!

I suppose there was still a slight bit of hope for Knuckles in this match. But not after the first match, where Yoshi really showed his worth, and Knuckles showed....not much.

DpOblivion's bracket says: Mega Man > Knuckles

Confidence Rating: 30%

DpOblivion's prediction is: Mega Man > Yoshi

Confidence Rating: 70%

Mega Man - 34%
Yoshi - 29%
Knuckles - 23%
KOS-MOS - 14%


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See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket *LETS GO SONIC!*
Lopen | Posted 10/4/2007 10:38:33 PM | message detail | #391
Come on, guys. Everyone abandoned Knuckles? Well hey, makes my chance of gettin the point that much higher, eh? 3 points in a row, I can taste it!
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Lopen | Posted 10/4/2007 10:40:10 PM | message detail | #392
By the way...

I'd forgotten Mega Man was shooting Yoshi in the face in 2005. Hmmm. YoBlazer raises a strong point.

Mega Man might be able to SFF anything, you tell me?

Shooting in the Face Factor?
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edgewalker16 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:44:04 PM | message detail | #393
Is there even a slight chance that Yoshi can pull an upset? Because that's what I have...
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Current Score: 90/124
trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2007 5:06:36 PM | message detail | #394
ima go with "nope".
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2007 9:05:01 PM | message detail | #395
Sonic the Hedgehog.....39.64% 50042
Sub-Zero.........................32.89% 41521
Prince of Persia.............17.97% 22690
Viewtiful Joe........................9.5% 11991
TOTAL VOTES............................126244

80.37% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
40.10% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

8.46% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
11.55% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew bracket: 104/120

Sub-Zero finishes pretty darn close to Sonic. Uh oh for the blue hedgehog?



Crew Prediction Challenge - Lopen hits again!

Lopen - 6
Yoblazer - 5
Guest (Turtle "2", Kleenex, Who Cares?, Sensi) - 5
HM - 3
KH - 3
Moltar - 3
Tran - 3
Ulti - 2

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Lopen gets a point for Sonic, Ulti gets one for Subby, Yo gets a point for Prince and KH and HM get points for Joe.

Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle "4", Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo, Richard, Xcarvenger "2", Sensi, Darunia, satai "2", Bio "2") - 24
Yoblazer - 23
HM - 23
Lopen - 16
Ulti - 16
Moltar - 15
Tran - 14
KH - 11
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Yoshi/Knuckles/Mega Man/KOS-MOS - Bracket: MM > Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (107/128)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2007 9:47:31 PM | message detail | #396
Division 1: Round 2 - Match 34 – Samus vs. Frog vs. Scorpion vs. Midna

Moltar’s Analysis

Samus
Round 1 – 51.75% vs. Frog, Axel and Kerrigan


Frog
Round 1 – 18.64% vs. Samus, Axel and Kerrigan


Scorpion
Round 1 – 36.64% vs. Midna, Kratos and Agent 47


Midna
Round 1 – 24.71% vs. Scorpion, Kratos and Agent 47

Samus take first. Graaahh Samus smash! Other than Scorpion, her competition here isn’t much, and in fact, almost comparable to Sonic’s group, with this one being a bit stronger. However, Samus is a stronger character.

Pre-contest, you could make a case for Midna, Scorpion and Frog to take second here, but now? Not so much. First you have Frog giving everything in him to get past Axel. Not Sora, not Riku, not Roxas, not Kairi, not Ansem, not DANCE WATER DANCE, Axel. Okay, so Axel’s stronger than about half of those other characters, but still, Frog’s weak.

Midna? Well, she’s who I got in my bracket, but she stunk it up hard last round. Either that, or Scorps is just good with this format (Subby kinda fuels this). Either way, it’s hard to see him lose this one now.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Samus > Midna

Moltar’s Prediction is: Samus: 39% - Scorpion: 30% - Midna: 16% - Frog: 15%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Thanks to Midna's collapse in the first round, the widespread Samus > Midna prediction for round two seems all but dead. Unless Midna SFFs the hell out of Samus and both Frog and Scorpion utterly bomb, Midna is toast. Hard to fathom, too, given that she only had to be twice as strong as 2006 Tingle to get through two matches.

This brings it down to Frog and Scorpion for second place, and this could be every bit as close as the first round between Frog and Axel was. Given Board 8's extreme lack of any social life (which is true of most hardcore gamers, but I digress), Frog will pull away at the end again if it's close in the final hour.

That said, Scorpion looks a bit stronger than Frog, if only because he would never give up a 1900 vote lead to Axel in a four-way match.

Ulti's Prediction:
Samus [32.00%]
Scorpion [25.00%]
Frog [22.00%]
Midma [21.00%]


Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Question of the match: does Samus outdo Mega Man’s percentage?

I say no -- but she doesn’t need to. Samus has some pretty stiff competition as a whole in this match, I think. Without looking, I think she has the hardest competition of any noble niner in the second round -- maybe Mario says otherwise -- so she doesn’t necessarily need to be making a killing here. I’m thinking people are still going to undoubtedly make the comparison, though. The Mega Man hype train seems to be at an all-time high right now.

Before we got a chance to see more fighting game characters, second place seemed like it was up for grabs between Scorpion and Frog, but at the this point, I think it’s safe to say that Scorpion is good for second. Frog had to pull some voodoo out of his ass last round in order to just slip by Axel, which isn’t as impressive as it might seem after seeing a few Kingdom Hearts characters perform. Frog isn’t out of it, I don’t think, but this is almost a Knuckles-esque situation. He can win, but the odds of him doing so aren’t so high. I’m rooting for him to pull it off, though!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2007 9:47:53 PM | message detail | #397
And Midna? Yeah, Midna’s a non-factor in this match. She’s got nothing going for her here. She was closer last round to Kratos Aurion than she was Scorpion, and she has to worry about the Nintendo vote going to Samus before her. I think she’s looking to end up struggling to maintain 15% here. She definitely doesn’t have the strength some expected her to have, and if that wasn’t apparent last round, I think it will be this round.

Samus – 35%
Scorpion – 26%
Frog – 24%
Midna – 15%


Bracket: Samus > Scorpion
Vote: Frog



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Unlike yesterday's match, this one really, really don't need any analysis, so let's make it quick and painless.

Samus dominated her Round 1 match, and she'll almost certainly do the same here. Likewise, Scorpion thrilled many bracket makers (while simultaneously thrashing the hopes of others) with his first round ass kicking of Midna. Now that she's in a poll with a Noble 9 Nintendo character, the new Zelda star will probably look even worse. Frog, who only made it this far due to an incredible last hour rally, will probably also look like crap, but at least he stands an excellent chance to finish ahead of Midna, who is, in my opinion, the most disappointing entrant in the bracket.

I did read some debate as to whether or not Frog had a chance to beat Scorpion, but I think Sub-Zero's awesome performance a few days ago put the final nail in that upset's coffin. Samus > Scorpion, and that's all she wrote.

Samus Aran - 45%
Scorpion - 25%
Frog - 16%
Midna - 14%



Lopen’s Analysis

GET OVER HERE! Baked Frog is back on the menu boys! Mmmm, toasty.

Scorpion's return to fame, right here. Remember the good old days when he got to final 8, taking down upper midcarders like Kazuya and Max Payne, and elites like Pac-Man, fighting every step of the way, like a true champion? Aw yeah. And now it's back.

I've had high expectations for every fighting game character in this contest, thinking they'd flourish in this environment. And I'm pleased to say, none have truly disappointed as of yet. It's a bit tough to say whether Scorp's round 1 was undeniably better than Frog's, but 15% is 15%, even without a stronger Samus to rob Scorpion of his votes. And considering I'd pick Kratos Aurion to give Frog a reasonably close match, I'm feeling pretty good here. Scorp takes second without much fuss.

Now you guys saw how Sonic had some trouble with his four pack? Samus is now going to feel his pain. Feel the wrath of the midcarders! Booyah! Course Samus is gonna be too busy unloading missiles into that woodland animal to care much. Midna is some part squirrel, right? I'm still a bit unsure, but I learned from the match pic last round that she was not a George Foreman Grill at least. KILL HER WITH FIRE.

Mmmm, baked squirrels and baked frogs, where would our society be without them? (I do not recommend the baked scorpion)

Lopen's prediction:
Samus - 39.17%
Scorpion - 27.33%
Baked Amphibious Creature - 20.05%
Baked Woodland Creature - 13.45%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Hmm. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this, at last. Can I keep it up? - Round 2... FIGHT!

Samus Aran

A pretty good performance in the first round is going to be followed up with high expectations from some here - Samus has had Metroid Prime 3 in the interim. However, as more and more time passes I feel she's going to get nothing but a small bump from it a la MP2, and now we've got to see her against MUCH stronger competition, including one of those things from that oft-cited weakness: Nintendo. Coupled with the fact that her fanbase is perhaps the most fickle of the NNers... could she disappoint?
Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2007 9:48:56 PM | message detail | #398
Frog

Squeaking out a match against friggin' Axel in a way that hardly seemed legitimate, Frog has a lot of uphill to go here if people think he's gonna take this. Of course, if he keeps it close - well, honestly, how could he lose?

Scorpion

Fighting games have looked friggin' beautiful this contest, and Mortal Kombat is no exception. After Sub-Zero performing like an upper-midcarder/near-elite against Sonic, Scorpion is looking primed to place second here. Exactly how much of that magic is gonna rub off with the threat of Frog shenanigans here, though?

Midna

Ouch. Once a great pick if not the favorite to reach the third round, that's basically dead in the water after being smashed by Scorpion last round. Midna looks to show she's not fodder or anything here, but not much more.

So what will it take to get the Mega Man > Samus rumblings happening? Not sure on the percentages, but anyone coming near to SMAUS or Midna capitalizing (due to a supposed weakness) would really get the bandwagon churning. Outside of that, the match is one of our more straightforward I think - sure Frog could finish ahead of Scorpion if things go wonky, but Midna could finish ahead of Frog as well. I feel it'll go to expectations for the most part, but don't be surprised if things don't pan out exactly.

Not that I needed to tell you that. Samus could even impress and shut down Mega Man upset theorizing !!

Karma Hunter's Vote: Scorpion. FROG MUST DIE
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Samus Aran with 39%, Scorpion with 26%, Frog with 20%, Midna with 15%

I'll go with right on the money for Samus, Scorpion comfortably taking second, Frog comfortably taking third. SHENANIGANS

Upset Probability: 60%

Second place is just so odd here. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Frog rise above where he 'should' be to place (hint: in case you don't want me to mince words, the technical term is CHEATING), and I even give something of a shot to Midna. Not that a side-character from TP should rSFF freaking Samus, but you never know. Let's see if Samus can impress on Zelda for a change...



Transience’s Analysis

pre-contest, this was a fairly debated and split match. everyone knew Samus would take first with ease, but who gets second? Midna, Frog and Scorpion all had good arguments for second place, but now the result seems pretty clear.

we can start by eliminating Midna. she's already shown to be a board creation. she got beat pretty good by Scorpion and she's looking at some potential SFF with Samus here. some people thought she would be strong enough to resist it, but she'd need a lot more than that in order to beat Scorpion out here. Midna's going to be lucky to finish in third place. she's not as weak as people want to make her seem, but she might look it after Samus is done with her.

the argument for Frog is that he has a 'hardcore fanbase' -- ie, people will vote for him no matter what, and it's not like he needs a ton of votes here to advance. I mean, who cares about past-their-prime fighting game characters? but when Frog needs the rally of his life in order to beat Axel, you know his chances aren't very good vs. Scorpion. he could get the same percentage and still lose badly.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2007 9:50:00 PM | message detail | #399
Scorpion has to be the favourite here, and it'd be a shocker if he lost. fighting game characters have been the #1 winner of this format so far -- moreso than xbox, Master Chief, Nintendo, Square, you name it. they've thrived bigtime. the only way that Scorpion loses this match is if he wilts in the presence of a more iconic Samus, but given that Sub-Zero just got 30%+ vs. Sonic, it's safe to say that that won't be happening. Samus is stronger than Sonic and more relevant to fans these days, but I don't think that'll be enough to even put Scorpion close to Frog in this match. this match is more of a barometer for Samus than it is a competitive match, I'd say. she needs to outdo Mega Man's percentage in order to maintain her favourite status, and I think she will.

GET OVER HERE, Frog
bombing to Axel makes you
a lock not to place

transience's prediction: Samus with 44.48%, Scorpion with 25.55%, Frog with 16.34%, Midna with 13.63%



Guest’s Analysis - BeTheMan

As we've seen with a number of matches already in this contest, the intriguing race here is not for first place, but for second.

Samus Aran is among the strongest half-dozen characters in the bracket. While I suspect that multi-option polls hurt her more than her fellow elite characters, there's no one present here that can pose any kind of threat to her. She'll lose a few percentage points off of her first round performance thanks to Scorpion, but should still land in the mid-40s, well ahead of everyone else.

Midna entered this contest with a good deal of board hype behind her, but after crashing and burning in the first round, she can't be considered a viable pick for this match. Competitively, Samus and Frog represent a significant upgrade over Agent 47 and Kratos Aurion, especially with Samus eating away at the Nintendo vote. I hesitate to shoot low with any Zelda character, but it would be an achievement for Midna to hit the low teens here.

That leaves us with Scorpion and Frog battling it out for second. Based on their first round performances and contest trends (with fighting game characters excelling and Square/CT characters struggling in this format), Scorpion appears to have the edge coming in here. But is it decisive enough to call him an "obvious" pick? I would say no.

Scorpion lucked into a great first-round draw, as his three competitors were weaker and considerably less casual friendly than him. Samus should eat away at much of Scorpion's casual support here, and the introduction of a viable Square character won't do him any favors either. Still, Scorpion will have the support of the fighting game fanbase firmly in his corner, which should be enough to place him in the low 20s.

Frog, meanwhile, barely escaped his first round tangle with Axel, and the waning CT support on GameFAQs isn't going to do him any favors here. Still, of the four characters in this match, Frog is the only one with any logical reason to improve upon his first round performance. The Frog/Axel duo combined for 37% with Samus present in round one. Chances are that a fair number of Axel's voters will throw their support to the amphibian this time around, which should be enough to push Frog into the 20s.

So, who will take second: Scorpion or Frog? It should be a close match (would you expect any less from Frog?), but I'm going to buck contest trends and say that Frog will escape again. Of the two, Frog has the better contest history, and quite frankly, Scorpion simply isn't that strong, especially without the advantage of being the most well-known, casual-friendly character in a match.

Prediction:
Samus Aran with 43.30%
Frog with 23.00%
Scorpion with 22.50%
Midna with 11.20%



Crew Consensus: Samus > Scorpion, oh how things change.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/5/2007 9:56:54 PM | message detail | #400
DpOblivion's Unofficial Guest Analysis:

So, after getting the first round of this division perfect, it looks like I'm getting half credit on both 2nd round matches. Ugh....

I'd really like to think Frog has another miracle up his sleeve, through the power of one of the most popular games at this site. But after both Scorpion's and Sub-Zero's performances in the first round, the Mortal Kombat characters just seem to be too high up to drop enough for Frog to overcome Scorpion here. Sure you can argue that Scorpion will get casual votes taken away from Samus....but look at what Sub-Zero did against Sonic, who should do an even better job stealing the casual votes from Mortal Kombat.

You could probably argue that Frog had to deal with another Square RPG character in Axel in his first round match, which held him back. But, as I argued in that first round match, the two are from such different eras that I'm not even sure how much the two fanbases interlap.

Basically what it comes down to is: In their first round matches, Scorpion got 36.64% of the vote, Sub-Zero got 32.89% of the vote with Sonic in the poll, and Frog got 18.64% of the vote.

Yes, Scorpion and Sub-Zero will be dealing with tougher all-around competition here, and Frog won't have any Square SFF. But I just think there's too big of a gap here for Frog to overcome it, so much so that I'm even going against my bracket.

If it's close though, of course Frog pulls it out. But I think Scorpion will advance comfortably. Although, Scorpion may have a bad pic, so we'll see....

DpOblivion's bracket says: Samus > Frog

Confidence Rating: 40%

DpOblivion's prediction is: Samus > Scorpion

Confidence Rating: 60%

Samus - 36%
Scorpion - 28%
Frog - 22%
Midna - 14%


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