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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 8:54:08 PM | message detail | #101 |
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Yeah, I'm aware. You're just directly above me so I have to tease you about it. :( ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/20/2007 9:04:26 PM | message detail | #102 |
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hey remember what happened last time i went against consensus with the chief analysis crew is so screwed --- xyzzy character battle vi score: 56/68 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/21/2007 12:30:26 AM | message detail | #103 |
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Yay for Master Chief destroying this four pack! Moltar now stands alone on the leaderboard, aw yeah Analysis Crew represent! *throws a gang sign* --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 9:18:54 AM | message detail | #104 |
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Ganondorf.........49.1% 63805 Ratchet............14.61% 18987 Thrall...............16.91% 21979 Vergil...............19.37% 25168 TOTAL VOTES...........129939 84.78% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly. 34.84% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly. 8.07% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd. 3.15% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st. Crew bracket: 62/72 All bow before the power of Ganondorf! He puts up nearly 50% on these guys. Meanwhile, Vergil takes second after struggling with Thrall in the beginning. Crew Prediction Challenge - I get the point in a Ganondorf match? Call it fate. Yoblazer - 4 Moltar - 3 Guest (Turtle, Kleenex, Who Cares?) - 3 Lopen - 3 Tran - 2 HM - 1 KH - 1 Ulti - 0 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Moltar gets 2 points for Ganon and Vergil, HM also gets a point for Vergil, Lopen gets a point for Thrall, and Ulti gets a point for Ratchet HM - 14 Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2") - 11 Yoblazer - 10 Lopen - 10 Moltar - 10 Ulti - 8 Tran - 6 KH - 5 --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe MC/PaRappa/Tommy/Yuna - Bracket: Chief > Yuna - Vote: Chief (64/72) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:33:15 PM | message detail | #105 |
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Division 5: Round 1 - Match 20 – Alucard vs. Liquid Snake vs. Ness vs. Zidane Moltar’s Analysis Alucard Game/Series Known From: Castlevania Seed in 2002: 6 Seed in 2003: 6 Seed in 2004: 9 Seed in 2005: 6 Seed in 2006: 6 Lost in 2002 to Cloud in Round 3 Lost in 2003 to Sephiroth in Round 3 Lost in 2004 to Ganondorf in Round 1 Lost in 2005 to Sora in Round 2 Lost in 2006 to Auron in Round 1 I like his seeds. Liquid Game/Series Known From: Metal Gear Solid Seed in 2004: 11 Lost in 2004 to Frog in Round 1 Known for such awesome lines like “I’M YOU! I’M YOUR SHADOW” and “THROUGH THIS ARM” Ness Game/Series Known From: Ness Seed in 2003: 12 Seed in 2004: 6 Seed in 2005: 4 Lost in 2003 to Bowser in Round 1 Lost in 2004 to Auron in Round 2 Lost in 2005 to Mario in Round 2 Always in a debatable match. Zidane Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy IX Seed in 2005: 7 Lost in 2005 to Crono in Round 1 Ahh FF9…yeah…it exists. Could this be it? Is this the match we’ve all been waiting for? ARE YOU PUMPED FOR THIS ONE BECAUSE I KNOW I AM! Yeah, it doesn’t have any real big characters, but for a round 1 match, this one is pretty up in the air. All 4 characters have a shot at Round 2, but which ones will make it? Let’s find out. First up, let’s talk about Zidane. He’s had one appearance so far, and it was a bad loss to Crono. Now, we don’t know for sure if it was SFF or Zidane is just that weak. Either way, he’s Final Fantasy and bound to get some support. Still, compared to the others, he has the least “hardcore” fanbase behind him. He’s the one that’s most likely to take last. Next up there’s Alucard. He’s a vet in these Contests, so we know where he ranks around. However, he seems to be on a decline, performing less well each year. Last year he nearly got doubled by Auron, who is pretty strong himself, but still, not impressive at all for Alucard. Even so, he is the one most likely to take first because…well, would you take Alucard over Ness, Liquid and Zidane? His fanbase isn’t the most devoted I’d guess, but he’s made it every year in the Contest, so there is some loyalty. The last two are Ness and Liquid Snake. I’m lumping them together because here is where I see the most competition for second. MGS has been doing really well in the Contest so far, so that’s a plus for Liquid, but Ness has Earthbound fans in his corner….Earthbound fans. They may be a small group, but holy crap they are devoted. Ness also has SSB to pull votes from, which is another positive for him. However, one on one, I’d think Liquid would be stronger. Oh boy, time for me to just shut up and pick a winner. Well, I had Alucard > Liquid in my bracket for a while, and then switched to Alucard > Ness. I’m feeling a little scared about Liquid thanks to just about every other MGS character whose had a match so far, but I still think Ness can pull through. I know he’ll get the Earthbound voters, it’s just a matter of how much SSB/Nintendo support he’ll get on top of that. Will it be enough to put him over? We’ll see. Still, I won’t be upset or anything if Liquid advances and knocks me off the top of the leaderboard. He’s got MY vote! Moltar’s Bracket Says: Alucard > Ness > Liquid > Zidane Moltar’s Prediction is: Alucard: 29% - Ness: 26% - Liquid: 25% - Zidane: 20% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis I'm pretty sure this is the first match in the contest in which *any* two characters could conceivably take combination of first and second place. All four characters are in the same general ballpark with a fairly large range of strength working for and against them. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:34:02 PM | message detail | #106 |
| I started my process of elimination by booting
Zidane. Even if his match against Crono wasn't SFF, I doubt he would
have performed much better against someone else. People don't like FF9
that much, and we've already seen what happened to Kuja. Zidane being
weak isn't some random aberration, and he should be weak enough not to
place here. The second character I eliminated was Ness, because even though I live the little guy to *death* after playing EarthBound, he gets most of his strength from the Smash Brothers series. EarthBound has a strong following, but not a large one. And if just assuming Ness to be weak isn't good enough, I came up with a really silly way of picking Liquid Snake > Alucard for this match. Liquid Snake has one really good match (his loss to Frog) and one really bad match (the Sephiroth calamity in the villain's contest). If you just go into the 2005 stats (the year Frog got his ass handed to him by Samus) and slap Liquid Snake's value onto Frog, you get Frog >= Liquid Snake > Alucard > Ness. Stupid, but it's better than the pure guesswork that is this match otherwise. Ulti's Prediction: Liquid Snake [30.00%] Alucard [27.00%] Ness [23.00%] Zidane [20.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Alucard – 35% Ness – 25% Liquid Snake – 20% Zidane – 20% Man, this prediction actually came out to be a lot tighter than I had thought it would be. The only thing I’m certain of in this match is that Alucard is safely ahead of everyone else. Sure, the son of Dracula hasn’t fared too well in recent contests, but I’m expecting him to make a big turnaround here. It may be just me, but I’m expecting Alucard to have a good sized hardcore fanbase. He’s the kind of character that just reeks of it -- and it should pay off well in this contest. Some people may be picking Ness to win, but I don’t subscribe too much to the idea that being the sole Nintendo character here means you rack up the Nintendo vote en masse, or any “company” vote for that matter. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ness managed to finish last here. Not because of how “weak” he is in relation to his competition, but because of how close each of them are to one another. One might think that the Earthbound fanbase would be a fanatical bunch, but at the same time, the sheer numbers advantage Zidane would have over them from the FFIX fanbase outweighs that; same thing with Liquid. It makes a total crapshoot. So why am I taking Ness to win here? Primarily because while I may not subscribe the idea of being a sole company representative mattering too much, I do subscribe to the “When it doubt, go with Nintendo.” It’s a fail proof subscription, folks -- and I hear it gives away free copies of Metroid Prime: Corruption! Ness pulls out a solid second. Bracket: Alucard > Ness Vote: Alucard -- The Plan Yoblazer’s Analysis Ah, here it is: the biggest, baddest, hardest, most cluser****iest match of the entire first round. Who will finish first? Who knows! Second? Who knows! Third? Who knows! Last? Zidane! Yep, it's a whole lot of wacky with nothing really known for sure, and you know what? That's just the way we like it. When it comes to matches as debated as this, I usually try to give everyone my best when it comes to the quality and quantity of the analysis. Unfortunately, I don't think I can do that when I have absolutely no clue what's going to happen. I could have flipped a coin a few times and posted the results as my analysis. Seriously, I got nothing. Alucard > Ness is in my bracket, but Liquid can certainly sneak in there (MGS has been looking relatively good), or Ness may win it as the lone Nintendo option. Other than that, just sit back and enjoy the ride, folks. Alucard - 28% Ness - 27% Liquid Snake - 26% Zidane - 19% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:34:31 PM | message detail | #107 |
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Lopen’s Analysis This is a highly debated little four pack. One of the most.. maybe the most? I think for this match, it's easier for me to explain why I didn't pick the alternatives than why I picked who I picked. First of all: Zidane. Okay, that might be obvious. Sucka got his ass kicked when we saw him. Maybe there was some RPG fanbase overlap there which caused Crono to thrash him more severely. Yeah well, maybe. I don't agree with that, so whatever, I ignored the monkey. Second of all: Ness. Whhhhaaaaatttt? you say? Yeah, I say. Now I don't think Ness is going to get much fanbase devotion from a Smash Brothers appearance. He is another one of the characters I wager is screwed by this format. Earthbound is still good for it, but the Smash support is gonna be severely lessened. Sole Nintendo character, you say. Doesn't bloody matter, I say. It's not as if the Playstation fanbase is not somewhere around 90% of the site. What are Ness pickers banking on? It's not the Turbo-Grafix16 that these other three characters are featured on. If you're going to try to quarantine Nintendo support, it's foolish to try and isolate it from PS hits Final Fantasy 9, Symphony of the Night, and Metal Gear Solid. Okay, but let's say for the sake of argument around 15% of the site has a Gamecube/N64, but no PS. So Ness has that portion of the vote locked, right? Well, no. There's one huge x-factor people are not considering in this match as it comes to Ness's "default support." Metal Gear Solid... The Twin Snakes!! Now now, I know what you're thinking: "But Lopen, Liquid's not going to get much from that!" You're right, he's not. But.. the thing to consider is this: The target audience for that game is the very same audience that Ness pickers are banking on! Even if only about 10% of the site has beaten TTS, and not the original... that 10% is gonna have a huge overlap with the people that would only know Ness. Huge. And do I think they'll vote Ness most of the time against Liquid? Absolutely not. I really don't think Ness's Smash fanbase can be counted on to hold against these three. Maybe if he were as broken in Melee as he was in the original I'd consider it, but no. Ness is using his Earthbound fans to keep him alive here for the most part... and to be honest... I think that makes him struggle with Zidane here. Prove me wrong, Ness. Now as for Alucard vs Liquid Snake, it simply comes down to Alucard just looking better in these things, generally. I could be wrong, though. Especially seeing MGS characters do fairly well. I'm definitely less confident in the order here than I am the winners. Lopen's Prediction: Alucard – 30.06% Liquid Snake – 27.97% Zidane – 20.99% (take that, Ness...!!) Ness – 20.98% (I'm sorry... I really don't hate you and your bulbous head, man!) Karma Hunter’s Analysis My most hyped fourpack of the round arrives, a thing which initially almost had an aura of Link > Zero quality to me. I wonder why people didn't get upset at me OH WAIT MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I DIDN'T ACT LIKE A MASSIVE DOUCHEBAG ABOUT IT ...let's see the competitors. Alucard The lone 2002 contest vet here, Alucard has made every single contest and surprised the hell out of many who didn't know of Symphony of the Night's greatness. Being the only Castlevania character worth a damn is his claim to fame... although many suspect his time is running out after his decline for the past two years... |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:35:07 PM | message detail | #108 |
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Liquid Snake For a guy with only one proper contest match and three VC matches to his name, he's been almost as surprising. He went even with Frog when most of the board didn't give him a chance, scored an insane blowout on Tenpenny before only putting up 55% on Lavos and getting trashed by Sephiroth. He's back to try to prove his worth, and slowly over the course of this contest from outside shot to perhaps a probable favorite. My man, and cause here. Ness You want to see the power of SSB, you look no further than Ness. A character who would be BAD fodder without it and gets annihilated against anything else Nintendo it seems, Ness is a respectable fodder line - perhaps a bit above it, if potential underrating has anything to do about it. Due to SSBBfear, a popular pick to make it out - but is he a favorite? Zidane The REAL outside shot, Zidane has only his role in FF9 and the Square fanbase to carry him far here. He has to hope for some significant SFF at the hands of Crono and for the split to be favorable among the other three... don't count him out in a pack this crazy, though. You all know my stance on this, so I'll give you the short of it - I believe in Liquid here. I believe he's stronger since the VC, due to votals and a natural increase aside from that (hey, won't Smash fanatics vote him 'cause he has Snake in the title eh eh screw you NESS). I believe he has the hardcore fanbase that other MGS characters share, and he'll thrive here. I believe in this above even the CV fanbase's main man or Smashers Inc. I believe, and he's my pick for first. Ness is second. While it pains me to put him above Alucard, his last contest was just too disappointing for me and while he should have an edge here in hardcore fanbase... Ness is Nintendo. He's SSBB. And I doubt one of those fails to advance from the first round barring an act from God. This should be good, tight, perhaps with a nailbiter between two... so I'll just pick percentages and get out of your hair. Karma Hunter's Vote: Liquid. THROUGH THIS ARM Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Liquid with 31.5%, Ness with 27.5%, Alucard with 21%, Zidane with 20% Upset Probability: 90% oh god Transience’s Analysis ahh, here it is. the only match that you could get fully correct if you were going for a zero bracket -- that's how close these guys could potentially be. I'll break it down kay aitch style: Alucard Alucard is the only guy that you could call a "midcarder" at the moment. statistically, he's the strongest of the four, though he's been going downhill steadily for the last three or so years. fortunately for him, SOTN received an xbox live release, I *think* a PS3 arcade release, and there's a SOTN/Rondo of Blood PSP port coming out next month. as far as his hope for contests goes, Konami's giving him everything he needs to stay steady, if not increase. WOO ALUCARD Liquid Snake Liquid Snake's introduction to Summer Contests was the closest wire-to-wire match of all time - Frog. thanks to a massive overperformance by Frog on Solid Snake, it was thought that Liquid was a legit midcarder at the worst, but everything since 2004 has looked bad for him. he struggled to get 55% on Lavos of all characters, and then got utterly trashed by Sephiroth. he got beaten so bad that some have speculated that there's some FF7/MGS overlap in that match, but it's impossible to tell. Frog's bomb vs. Samus and pathetic match vs. Axel don't inspire confidence, though. WOO LIQUID |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:35:39 PM | message detail | #109 |
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Ness Ness is a guy who's never had a good place stat-wise. he routinely ruins brackets and then gets quadded by another Nintendo character. there's no way he's the strongest statistically, but Ness's main argument is that he's the sole Nintendo character. on a site that seems so Nintendo-dominated (or more specifically, Smash-dominated), Ness is the posterchild of that shift. this poll has three PS1 characters and a Nintendo character. picking Ness is the ultimate "Nintendofear" pick, though it's tough to argue against the logic. WOO NESS Zidane Zidane is the biggest wild card of the four. his contest history consists of a beatdown at Crono's hands that may or may not be SFF.. and that's all. the fact that Zidane never made another contest is practically a strike against him, but if he's even remotely close to Vivi, he wins this fourpack. of course, he's not going to resemble Vivi simply because he doesn't have a black mage character design, but he *is* the sole Square character here and that could be enough to get him past these guys. he only needs ~25% to advance, after all. that said, he's also the most likely to bomb. WOO ZIDANE now then! Alucard is the only guy I trust here. I have faith in his fanbase, I think he's the strongest of the bunch and he's actually relevant with all the ports he's been getting. SOTN isn't getting any younger, but I like him by a good amount here. it's fully possible he loses here, but I feel confident in him taking first place. second place, on the other hand, is a disaster. Ness is the favourite, and I can see why - the only Nintendo guy, DO NOT DOUBT THE SMASH FANBASE, etc. if Pit can get 18% in a poll with Luigi in it despite being nothing more than a picture, how will a guy like Ness manage to hold up? however, I don't think Ness has *anything* on Pit (or even Captain Falcon) when it comes to character design. all those miracle wins were against guys without fanbases - Jak and CJ aren't exactly the most beloved characters on 'FAQs. Ness absolutely crumbled against Mario and Bowser, and while you'd expect Mario to SFF any Nintendo character to oblivion, I have to question a guy that can't even get 20%. he probably got more anti-votes and pity votes than actual votes for him. I question his ability to draw votes here. SSB >> everything makes me doubt myself, but I still can't see a lot of people voting for a guy with a design that bad. Earthbound is not very strong on this site - hell, Giygas did worse than Kuja did. Ness is benefitting almost exclusively from Smash. I'll put him down for fourth place, even if I don't actually believe he'll get that low. he just seems like the worst choice to me, the more that I think about it. Liquid Snake scares the hell out of me in this format. on the one hand, MGS characters have been impressing like hell. Big Boss? whoa. Ocelot took down Jill. Raiden sucked it up, but you wouldn't expect him to thrive in this format. he's no-one's favourite character. still, MGS certainly has loyal fans, and I'm sure they'll be voting for Liquid here. he's the least likely of the three to bomb -- he seems almost guaranteed 20%. on the other hand, I'm skeptical of him somewhat -- he seems to be going downhill quickly and almost fading into obscurity. I'm no MGS fan, but when I hear people talk about it it's usually about Ocelot or one of the Bosses, not Liquid. I'd call him the favourite to place in this format regardless.. but I can't say I'm all that confident. then there's Zidane. the #1 argument against him is Kuja's bomb in the villains contest. in fact, Ness/Zidane almost feels like Kuja/Master Hand redux. Zidane doesn't have the most appealing character design. FF9 is kind of the forgotten child of the PS1 Final Fantasies. I can see why people are writing him off here. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:36:11 PM | message detail | #110 |
| not me, though. I believe that Zidane -- no, FF9
-- has a core fanbase that really loves him. I believe it's somewhat
sizable too, certainly bigger than the Earthbound fanbase. I think
Zidane is quite liked amongst that group, and if he was SFFed by Crono,
all the better. FF9 is an "oldschool" RPG, so it makes sense that there
would be some overlap with "old Square". I'm finding it difficult to
pick against Liquid, but I might as well stick with my bracket here.
and if he bombs, well, I'm never trusting anything FF9 outside of Vivi
again. WHY IS VIVI SO POPULAR IT CONFUSES ME I KNOW HE'S A BLACK MAGE
BUT AUGH FF9, fodder? I refuse to believe that Zidane ain't Kuja transience's prediction: Alucard with 28.56%, Zidane with 24.33%, Liquid Snake with 24.11%, Ness with 23.00% Guest’s Analysis - Draco1214 So now the wheels of The Plan ™ are set in motion! This is easily the most talked about fourpack of Round 1 and with good reason. All four of these guys have a shot at advancing and three of them can take first place (lawl Zidane). First up is the mastermind behind The Plan ™ himself, Alucard! Ever since 2004, it seems as though aging’s finally caught up to one of the contest’s more consistent midcarders. In 2005, he let newcomer Kratos get 45% on him before getting creamed by Sora’s day vote. The following year, Alucard made an early exit, failing to even dent the armor of a post-KH2 Auron. Despite being the huge favorite to finish first here, Ness and Liquid have his number if his strength continues to decay any further. However, despite his seemingly anemic strength, I have to side with the majority and say Alucard’s got enough in him to take first here. Castlevania is one of the strongest series on this site (as shown by its awesome performance in the series contest) and Alucard is a big fan favorite. Statistically, he’s the strongest character in the fourpack. This, coupled with his fanbase’s insane dedication, should make Alucard the shoo-in for first. This brings us to the race for second. Of the three remaining characters, I think Zidane’s chances are the worst. He got creamed by Crono in his first (and only) contest appearance, which landed him under the fodder line. Ness and Liquid are well above his level of strength and should both have stronger fanbases than him. Basically, Zidane’s only hope is that Crono SFF’d him back in 2005, but I consider this unlikely. The only time Crono SFF’d a Square character was Kefka back in 2003, and you can attribute that both characters belonging to the same generation/system. There should be less of a fanbase overlap between Crono and Zidane. I think Zidane takes last here. Which makes Liquid and Ness the frontrunners for second place. In 2004, Liquid shocked the board by going toe-to-toe with the overwhelming favorite, Frog. However, his stat was botched by Frog’s match against Solid Snake’s sprite and it showed in his Villains Contest performance, where he barely broke 55% on Lavos (yeah, that Lavos) before getting tripled by Sephiroth. Still, 24% isn’t quite that bad and still makes him a midcarder. This, coupled with MGS fans’ rabid dedication to its characters (look at how Ocelot, Big Boss, and The Boss performed this contest), could be enough to get him to second place. Ness is probably the biggest wildcard here. We’ve never had a solid number on the little guy. The best we know about him is that he was roughly equal to Scorpion in 2004, which makes him a good midcarder. However, The Great Nintendo Boost of 2005 changes everything and makes his strength more difficult to predict. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2007 7:38:03 PM | message detail | #111 |
| I’m siding with Ness for second here. Though Ness’
fanbase is decidedly casual, characters like Crash Bandicoot doing so
well shows that even casual characters can still rock in this format.
Also, Ness is the sole Nintendo character in the poll and I think he’s
going to ride that all the way to a comfortable second place (and maybe
even first). Expect Ness to be falling behind at night and making an epic comeback during the day (his opponents are all terrible with the day vote). Draco’s Vote: Alucard Draco’s Bracket: Alucard > Ness Draco’s Prediction: Alucard – 28% Liquid Snake – 25% Ness – 26% Zidane Tribal – 21% Crew Consensus: So let's tally this one. 4 Alucard > Ness, 1 Liquid > Alucard, 1 Alucard > Liquid, 1 Liquid > Ness, and 1 Alucard > Zidane |
| goku z | Posted 9/21/2007 7:39:47 PM | message detail | #112 |
| *has Zidane > Liquid* |
| ZFS | Posted 9/21/2007 7:39:48 PM | message detail | #113 |
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I'm feeling Liquid > Zidane here! --- let's mosey |
| Lopen | Posted 9/21/2007 7:49:22 PM | message detail | #114 |
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Awesome stuff today. Read through all the analyses. I'm lovin the pick spread here. Raiden sucked it up, but you wouldn't expect him to thrive in this format. he's no-one's favourite character. YOU WILL SUFFER. Though kudos for picking Zidane. I too think the FF9 fanbase is more significant than the Earthbound fanbase, and see him as a better choice than Ness. (Though my percents didn't really reflect that... ha!) --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/21/2007 7:50:24 PM | message detail | #115 |
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... not to imply I don't normally read through em all! They were just long today, that's why I said it! Really! --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2007 7:52:00 PM | message detail | #116 |
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1. Raiden 2. Dante 3. Master Chief what what ! --- xyzzy character battle vi score: 56/68 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/21/2007 7:53:36 PM | message detail | #117 |
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Okay, fine, you got it out of me... Raiden is only my sixth favorite character... but dammit, that's close enough! Way closer than any other MGS character! --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| Lugia2 | Posted 9/21/2007 10:07:17 PM | message detail | #118 |
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*Has Alucard>Ness* By the way, did anyone save Lopen's Raiden nomination rally? I remember reading that- that was AWESOME! Just...So...Funny! --- VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!! Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much. Lugia2-1246-5250-1185 |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/21/2007 10:25:27 PM | message detail | #119 |
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DpOblivion's Unofficial Supposedly-Quick-But-Apparently-Not Analysis: Sorry, didn't get a UQA (*trademarks term*) in last night, my computer's been ****ing up the last couple days. Maybe a good thing, I probably would've make my self look stupid....er. Was feeling quite confidant about Yuna > Master Chief, but the FF vote failed. Anyway, onto today, arguably the most debated good match. We've had several matches where it's been a three way fight for 2nd place, but here we actually have a three way fight for both of the top two placements. Alucard, Liquid Snake, and Ness are fighting two advance, and it really wouldn't surprise me whichever way it ends up. Oddly, it's the Final Fantasy character who is locked into a last place finish. Damn Zidane, go headbutt a brick wall. Sorry, wrong Zidane, but my hatred of the athlete carries over to this random FF guy who I don't know anything about. So, let's see here. First we have Alucard, who should be the most popular of the three, but he and his series has tended to underperform. Then we have Ness, who gets votes for being from one of the mostpopular cult games and for being in the very mainstream SSB series. Finally, we have Liquid Snake, who is from the very popular MGS series which I've been giving a lot of credit to this contest, but he's not the main character, so he may suffer there. In filling out my bracket, I felt the safest choice for first was Alucard, so I stuck with that. 2nd place I was pretty back and forth with, but I ended up going with Ness, but perhaps just because Ness was my initial gut feeling, and I don't like to change on my initial gut feeling unless I'm sure it's wrong. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Liquid Snake beat him though, and wouldn't be all that surprised if he took first over Alucard. And him taking 1st with Ness also taking second over Alucard doesn't sound too crazy either. Hell, maybe some cross-genre SFF will occur and put Ness in 1st over one of the others. But I think I have reasoning for Ness advancing. The SSB/Earthbound vote should certainly be enough to get him in the top two with Alucard and Liquid Snake battling it out. But....ugh, even going through this analysis I'm continuing to go back and forth on this. I'm not feeling all that confident about my 1st place pick even advancing right now....but I gotta stick by my pick. That's it, I'm doing a special new category down here. But this match only, I don't want to steal KH's trademark. DpOblivion's bracket says: Alucard > Ness DpOblivion's prediction is: Alucard > Ness Confidence Rating: 49% Quite possible upset pick: Ness > Liquid Alucard - 29% Ness - 27% Liquid Snake - 25% Zidane - 19% --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/21/2007 10:46:24 PM | message detail | #120 |
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Some interesting reads with such a debatable match. And yes tranny, SOTN is available on the Playstation Network for download. I should probably do that, actually.... --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| PokemonPatriarch | Posted 9/21/2007 11:41:06 PM | message detail | #121 |
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Moltar: Got that thing I sent ya? =) --- Ogre Battle saga fanboy, and hopeless supporter of Lans Tartare for CB2K8! |
| Tatl | Posted 9/22/2007 12:33:56 AM | message detail | #122 |
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*Has L.S. > Alucard* *Wants Ness upset > Zidane upset* *Votes Ness* --- Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion! Go Midna! |
| EvilNcr | Posted 9/22/2007 1:14:20 AM | message detail | #123 |
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Man, this topic takes me back to 2002's SolarShadow's analysis and stats topic. I feel old ;_;. Well, I'm sure a couple of you guys might remember me, like Moltar and Ulti. --- "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." ~ Winston Churchill |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2007 1:28:33 AM | message detail | #124 |
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Moltar: Got that thing I sent ya? =) HA HA! Yes. Well, I'm sure a couple of you guys might remember me, like Moltar I remember you! --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Alucard/Liquid/Ness/Zidane - Bracket: Alucard > Ness - Vote: Liquid (68/76) |
| Lopen | Posted 9/22/2007 5:50:59 AM | message detail | #125 |
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By the way, did anyone save Lopen's Raiden nomination rally? I remember reading that- that was AWESOME! Just...So...Funny! Thank you, thank you. You're too kind sir. Good tastes right here. I actually have two versions, I made one for each year I rallied. Similar approach but different content. I'll post them on a secret board... because frankly, I could use a secret board. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| LegendaryRaiden | Posted 9/22/2007 6:38:38 AM | message detail | #126 |
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I really couldn't count on Lopen to do it. I posted them on my board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=589087 --- Did you say “nerd”? - Raiden Yes, I did. Your hearing is flawless, you heard correctly. Get to the nerd. - Campbell |
| Lugia2 | Posted 9/22/2007 9:22:06 AM | message detail | #127 |
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And you know... Raiden wouldn't take BS from Samus, either Snake lost 47-53 to Samus last year. Raiden? Raiden would force Samus to wear the Zero Suit. And by suit, I mean percent. And by Zero Percent, I mean that is the % of the vote Samus would get against Raiden in a GameFAQs contest match. (Disclaimer: Percent may be rounded.) Speaking of contests... it took a conspiracy involving somewhere around 30 women to keep Raiden out last year. The split bracket. It's the only reason he ddin't get in last year, you know. And let's face it, you hated most of the female bracket last year. What better way to spite them than to get Raiden in the contest but one year later? Spite them good. (The ones you like? They clearly adore Raiden, and had nothing to do with said conspiracy) Thanks! These are just as hilarious as I remembered! --- VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!! Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much. Lugia2-1246-5250-1185 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/22/2007 1:36:08 PM | message detail | #128 |
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From EvilNcr Posted 9/22/2007 2:14:20 AM #123 Man, this topic takes me back to 2002's SolarShadow's analysis and stats topic. I feel old ;_;. Well, I'm sure a couple of you guys might remember me, like Moltar and Ulti. OMG NCR!! ~*ST*~ --- Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859 |
| EvilNcr | Posted 9/22/2007 3:39:39 PM | message detail | #129 |
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Speaking of which, my 0 bracket is a complete flop. I've got 11 ****ing points. ... *checks stats*. What? I'm bottom 43?! O_o. Looks like everyone failed at it. --- "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." ~ Winston Churchill |
| transience | Posted 9/22/2007 3:49:05 PM | message detail | #130 |
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looks like most of us failed today - awesome set of writeups though, I
thought. that's what happens when you get a completely unpredictable
match. I'm happy with my one point here! --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/22/2007 9:21:51 PM | message detail | #131 |
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OMG NCR!! indeed. --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2007 9:35:55 PM | message detail | #132 |
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Division 6: Round 1 - Match 21 – Amaterasu vs. Dante vs. Little Mac vs. Matt Moltar’s Analysis Amaterasu Game/Series Known From: Okami Awesome, awesome game. Dante Game/Series Known From: Devil May Cry Seed in 2002: 4 Seed in 2003: 4 Seed in 2004: 4 Seed in 2005: 1 Seed in 2006: 2 Lost in 2002 to Crono in Round 2 Lost in 2003 to Ryu in Round 2 Lost in 2004 to Sonic in Round 3 Lost in 2005 to Vincent in Round 2 Lost in 2006 to Yoshi in Round 2 Dark souls…filling them…with light…you know. Mac Game/Series Known From: Punch-Out!! Seed in 2002: 15 Lost in 2002 to Link in Round 1 Of all the 2002 one-shots to return… Matt Game/Series Known From: Wii Sports I hope the Board is proud of itself. And after a day of excite, we go back to the same old routine. The one who gets first, in this case Dante, easily gets it, while the others fight for the scraps. This time, competing for second, we have Ammy, Mac, and Matt. First up is who I had in my bracket for a long time at first, Amaterasu. This wolf was the star of the Zelda-killer (er, what?) Okami, which sold exacly 5 copies. Sure, it didn’t sell well, but it’s still a higly praised game. However, in order to be popular, people are going to have to play your game. Unfortunately, I just don’t think Ammy has what it takes to pull second, though I wouldn’t count her out. Next up on the list is Matt the Mii. Now we all know this Board loves to nominate characters who are funny to them to see them (get slaughtered) in these Contests, but so far…*looks at Bidoof and Mudkip*…these guys haven’t been doing too bad. That’s why you can’t count out Matt yet. Now he may be just a Mii, but Wii is the hottest console out there right now, and half of GameFAQs voters already have scored one. It’s so popular no doubt thanks to the wide appeal of Wii Sports. Still, just because its popular doesn’t mean they like and will vote for some random Mii. Then there’s my boy Little Mac. This underdog has fought all the way back into these Contests, and now has a fight for second to prepare for. Punch-Out is known and liked on GameFAQs, and we’ve seen Mac in action before. 16% on Link isn’t too bad, especially considering the competition here. I’m not exactly sure why Matt is so favored on the board, because I’m feeling good with Mac in second. He’s not that old or obscure enough to be forgotten by the voters, and looking at his past performance, all he’ll need to do is hold up since then and he’s got this. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Dante > Mac > Ammy > Matt Moltar’s Prediction is: Dante: 47% - Mac: 23% - Ammy: 18% - Matt: 12% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis This is one of the few matches in the first round in which there's to be one dominant first place character (Dante, in this case) and three characters who are the "fodderiest fodders that ever foddered" (thanks, creative). So what do we make of this fodder? Any of the three can win, but most of the board is leaning towards Mac and Matt because of their Nintendo affiliation. It makes sense, but this Nintendo is absolutely bottom of the barrel. We all made fun of Ashe when he said that 10% of GameFAQs has heard of Punch-Out, but he might not be too far off. GameFAQs has gotten a lot younger in the past few years (see how well Kingdom Hearts and Nintendo has done of late), and it wouldn't surprise me if little to no one knows who Little Mac is. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2007 9:36:25 PM | message detail | #133 |
| Matt is a different story entirely, as everyone
who owns a Wii owns Wii Sports. Joke nomination or not, Matt might get
second place based solely on being a Wii avatar. I however have little
faith in him, for two reasons. One, Wii Boxing is by far the worst and
least popular game within Wii Sports. Two, Matt is black. I don't want
to call GameFAQs racist, but.... GameFAQs is really, really racist.
Matt's Wii appeal might be countered by his not being able to catch the
casual Nintendo vote. Sad, but I think it's true. Which lastly leads us to Amaterasu. I have little statistical backing for picking her to take second place, other than my belief that she takes it by default. Seriously. Ulti's Prediction: Dante [76.00%] Amaterasu [10.00%] Little Mac [8.00%] Matt [6.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Dante -- 45% Little Mac -- 21% Amaterasu -- 18% Matt -- 16% ...who makes these divisions? I actually have no clue what’s going to happen with this. It’s clear that Dante is going to dominate the poll -- woohoo another one of these -- but second place is up for grabs -- woohoo another one of these. I’m not sure what the consensus on this match was on the board, but I know quite a few folks went with Matt. But as far as that’s concerned, I think most people (i.e., the voters) are similar to me in not even knowing what in the world Matt looks like. Sure, there will be a picture, and it’ll be distinctive because of what the Mii look like, but who honestly cares about a Mii? Ignoring Board 8 finding it entertaining. The best I could see it doing is third place ahead of Amaterasu. Even with the release of the Wii, Matt’s not the only one who would get favored there, due to Punch-Out!! being released on the Virtual Console. That’s openin’ doors, baby! We’ve seen him in all of one contest in all of one match -- against Link in 2002. You know what I’m feeling? aww yeah major SFF dante doesn’t have anything on this! Joking aside, Little Mac actually didn’t do that bad against Link in 2002, which probably had some wonky stuff going on. He put up nearly 16% against him, no small feat back then, or even today. I think Mac’s got what it takes to pull an easy second here. Punch-Out!! is a well known game with a pretty hardcore backing, plus any additional Nintendo shift also would help him out, not hurt him, thanks to the Virtual Console. The Wii’s success only helps him out. Give me that over a Mii and the main character in Okami -- both unproven. Yoblazer’s Analysis Ah, yet another match that's been giving me fears lately. Of course, I've missed the last 826 matches in a row, so Link/Sephiroth/Toad/Zolom would scare me at this point. Let's see if this old timer still has a trick or two up his sleeve, shall we? Standard stuff here: we have an upper midcarder and three pieces of complete fodder. The upper midcarder, Devil May Cry's gunslingin', sword slashin' badass, Dante, will absolutely tear apart his pathetic competition. The challenge here, of course, rests with predicting which of the three hapless losers will scrounge up enough votes to move on. Just who are these hapless losers, you ask? A fine question! They are Okami's Amaterasu, Punch-Out's! Little Mac, and Wii Sports' Matt. Wow, what a trio of suck. Regardless, one of them must move on, so let's see if we can figure out whom. Personally, I think Amaterasu has the smallest chance. It (he? she?) is an obscure character from a very new, very niche game. After seeing how badly Midna stunk it up despite being a central character in one of the most popular game in years, one can't feel good about its (his? her?) chances. Little Mac is more recognizable, and Matt the Mii has a larger userbase. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2007 9:36:56 PM | message detail | #134 |
| That brings us to the big headed dude who's making
me feel a bit uneasy, Matt. Yes, it looks hilarious when typed out, but
I don't care. At first, I figured Matt would be a tremendous bust. He's
just an extra in a mini-game fest, afterall, and he's so generic that I
couldn't possibly imagine him benefiting from joke votes. However, that
has changed after seeing the tremendous performances by ****ing Bidoof
and god damned Mudkip. Granted, those two are joke-fad Pokemon, but
they're proof positive that joke characters can do very well here, and
Matt could just turn into another one. Also, and this goes without
saying, he's from Wii Sports. It may not be a fan favorite or anything,
but it has a huge play percentage on this site. How many voters own a
Wii? I'm willing to say half at least. Add a bit to that. That's how
many people have played Wii Sports. Certainly more than Punch-Out, and
a hell of a lot more than Okami. He might be a geeneric Mii, but in
this goofyass contest, that might be enough. Of course, my pick for second is Little Mac, and I'll stick with it. He has an awesome picture, a couple of (stupidly racist but pretty popular) joke fads himself, and is easily the most identifiable character next to Dante. I think he'll squeeze through, but it could be close. Dante - 60% Little Mac - 16% Matt - 12% Amaterasu - 12% Lopen’s Analysis Dante in first, you know the runaround. Second place is where the fun comes. Matt was the favorite I think... but honestly, who likes any of the AI miis? He was hailed as a joke vote... but I have many doubts that most people are going to see the humor in a random Mii. Seems like B8s stupid sense of humor coming to the forefront again. And to the people who claim "he is the embodiment of the Wii, people will vote for that!" That's the silliest idea I've ever heard. One more thing to consider... a lot of people might not even recognize him as one of their treasured Miis with that picture. Just look at him. Who's going to vote for that? No, Matt finishes last here and in a big way. Mii don't care about him, yii don't care about him, wii don't care about him. So now we've got Okami vs Little Mac for second. They're both sportin good pictures... but man, Mac's is the paragon of why I picked him to take second here. He's just oozing old school appeal. The old school vote is not to be ignored.. not to be ignored! And really, Punch Out! was a very popular game in all of its forms. Some might claim that its too old to have enough of a fanbase here. I disagree. The game came out in 1987, it was certainly viable to get it used (and being the hit it was, word of mouth would spread to make people want to get it used) for many many years beyond that. Most people who have played the NES have probably played this game, but maybe I'm overestimating its popularity. And oh, we can't ignore Super Punch Out!! Though I don't think that game was nearly as popular, it deservedly had some fans. And also, Punch Out! was a good seller on the Wii Virtual Console for whatever that's worth. Meanwhile... his opposition... I'm not sure how popular Okami really was. I hadn't heard much about it beyond B8, and even then it wasn't in the league of Phoenix Wright or Tales of Symphonia as far as board hype goes. I think Mac takes this fairly easily. Here's to hoping Dante does well. As opposed to a lot of people I've heard, I think this format is going to help him quite a bit. When a character is more popular than his series you've gotta figure his fans love him a lot... and like other near elites that have impressed such as Vincent, Master Chief, and Ryu, he's never fallen below the high 30s, even in defeat. Lopen's prediction: Dante - 57.45% Little Mac - 20.35% Amaterasu - 16.96% Matt the Mii - 5.24% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2007 9:37:27 PM | message detail | #135 |
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Karma Hunter’s Analysis Amaterasu The protagonist of Okami, might've had a chance here if that was her name. I can count on one hand the people I've seen spell it correctly *sigh* Dante The surefire winner here, despite a crap picture he looks to impress on this pack of... AUGH Little Mac Back after being the initial fodder crushed by Link !! Mac hopes to ride the outdated and useless 2002 stats along with a few other intangibles to second place here. Matt The Mii. The Guru favorite, people are pretty down on him after seeing his picture (if it gets changed, I have no idea at the time of writing). Dante is first, so let's discuss the three-pack of fodder. Amaterasu has a great picture and has a definite hardcore fanbase, but that name... it's hard to get around that. I'd be SHOCKED if she placed second here. Little Mac has Punch-Out!! on the VC and the old-school vote and a surprisingly good picture... I like him here. Matt's single appeal was for people voting for a Mii. Instead, we see a blurry black guy. Unless people are really into Wii Sports, I don't like his chances... So it's Mac. YAY PROCESS OF ELIMINATION Karma Hunter's Vote: Amaterasu. lol elitist Okami fans WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Dante with 50%, Little Mac with 23%, Matt with 15%, Amaterasu with 12% Back to overshooting percentages. YAY Upset Probability: 38% If that picture gets changed, anything can happen. Matt still has a half-decent shot even if it doesn't, if people still know him and Mac has dropped off the face of the earth. And Ammy does look the best there, so *maybe*...? (okay, that's taking it a bit too far) Transience’s Analysis this is the only debated match that I never thought twice about. Dante obviously wins. he should bring in a nice percentage too, considering his competition. I won't call for the 60% that some crazy people have, but he'll definitely do well for himself. he's got casual appeal *and* a weak pack. his competition is interesting, but two of them have big flaws. Matt is a joke character with little appeal. he's just some random dude. I'm baffled as to why he's the guru favourite -- I'm assuming because everyone's played Wii Sports? yeah, that doesn't really matter. you're a random dude, and that picture right now makes it hard to even tell what the joke is supposed to be. I doubt he gets a new one either because this match is taking place on a weekend. sorry, feedback ticket-ers! he's going to get the board vote, the LL vote and maybe the 4chan vote.. but that's about all. Amaterasu's a nice little character, but I think her name holds her back. I worry that she suffers from "Wander Disease" -- that's just not a memorable name and it's just a random wolf. I'm sure Okami folk will vote for her en masse, but I question how big that voting block is. then there's Little Mac. few characters have had a worse draw than him. Little Mac scored 15% on Link back in 2002 and has been written off ever since. well, seeing as how Link would crush *everything* Nintendo, I think that's a bit harsh on Mac. I mean, Yoshi only managed 18% against Link. you can't hold that match against him. Mac is essentially a new character here. there's nothing Nintendo holding Mac back this time. (no, Matt is not a Nintendo character. he's a joke.) he's very likable and unlike most NES guys, he's actually somewhat relevant. Punch-Out! is far more known than some people want to give it credit for. he's even in the top ten NES FAQs. (who the hell reads a Punch-Out! FAQ????) he's got that whole ytmnd thing, if you want to add that to his resume. I think his game is in the top 10 VC sales. I have a lot of confidence in Mac here. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2007 9:38:00 PM | message detail | #136 |
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who the hell votes Matt? Mac's a better choice, though Matt tried to steal his bike. transience's prediction: Dante with 49.43%, Little Mac with 25.45%, Amaterasu with 17.33%, Matt with 7.79% Guest’s Analysis - RichardSmoker Wow, what a crapshoot this match turned out to be. Let's get to it: Dante is a monster, who eats up casual votes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Even so, I think a lot of people are overestimating how well Dante will perform. If Crono couldn't hit 50%, then I don't see Dante doing it, either. Yes, Crono is weaker than ever, and yes, perhaps he had a slightly tougher fourpack, but very few characters have even approached 50% in this format. Now for the real tough stuff. How will the other three character do? It's very hard to say. Amaterasu is quite the dark horse pick for this match, but I don't see it happening. Obsure, innovative PS2 games just don't have a fanbase at this site. Little Mac will do better here than he did against Link in '02, but not by much. And then there's Matt, the huge wildcard. Ever since the match pics came out, people with Matt in their bracket have been abandoning the Mii's chances to move on. Not me! Call me an idiot, but before the contest began, I estimated Matt to be equal in strength to generic pokemon. So naturally, I put Dante > Little Mac in my bracket. However, even without the 10K joke votes, the generic pokemon have been doing very well (read: destroying my bracket) thus far, and against heavier competition than in this fourpack. Therefore I'm going against my bracket, against the horrible match pic, and against common sense to pick Dante > Matt. Besides, Matt and Little Mac are both boxers, so, uh, rSFF, right? Dante: 48.7% Matt: 21.8% Little Mac: 16.9% Amy: 12.6% Crew Consensus: Dante > Mac is the popular pick here. |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/22/2007 9:53:39 PM | message detail | #137 |
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DpOblivion's Unofficial Supposedly-Quick-But-Apparently-Not Analysis: Okay, so we all get 2 free points after yesterday's toss-up. Dante in first, and he'll look like a mid-range Noble Niner with this victory. Can you get the other 2 points though? I'm honestly pretty surprised that the entire Crew (minus the guest, who doesn't count, because there's a tendency for the guest to pick the fun upset) is predicting Dante > Little Mac. I don't disagree, I'm just surprised at the unanimousness in what I see as another big toss-up. Yesterday we had three decent-strength characters fight out for the top. Today we have three absolute fodder fighting out for 2nd. Once again, all 3 have their arguments of why they could win. Amaterasu is the main character from a pretty popular game here, Okami. But it's pretty cult, so she's really going to be scrambling for votes. Main thing going for her is she's recent. Next is Little Mac. He seems to have the most popularity of the three, but he's so old-school that I fear that a lot of casual youngsters are going to come vote and not know who the hell he is (not that they're likely to know who Amaterasu or Matt is). Finally, we have Matt. Who? Oh, a Mii from Wii Sports. I think Matt has a great advantage. Wii has obviously reached a much greater percentage of people than Okami has, and moreso than Punch-Out! as well. And Matt's game, Wii Sports, came packages with every one. However, the big problem is, who the hell is Matt? Sure, there's going to be a great amount of voters who have a Wii and Wii Sports, or at least played it. But most likely, they won't even recognize Matt, and even if they do, what the hell reason do they have to vote for him? Matt was a fun joke nomination rally, one that I participated in, but he's less deserving of a contest spot than Bidoof. And he doesn't have a fad working for him, sorry. In the end, I went with Little Mac, just because not enough people know Amaterasu, and not enough people give a damn about (if they can even recognize) Matt. Of course, I don't think Little Mac will have much strength himself, so this could be a close race for third. Not something I thought about until writing this, but Amaterasu does have a big pic advantage for voters who don't care about any of the four characters. Matt has absolutely no appeal, and Little Mac has little (no pun intended) appeal as well except for the old-school crowd. Even Dante, who's a pretty bad-ass character, has a poor pic for him. But Amaterasu has a pretty sweet, appealing picture. Will that be enough to push her into 2nd? I'll hold off on that. But I'll say it should be enough to secure her 3rd place over Matt. DpOblivion's bracket says: Dante > Little Mac DpOblivion's prediction is: Dante > Little Mac Confidence Rating: 60% Dante - 48% Little Mac - 19% Amaterasu - 17% Matt - 16% --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/22/2007 9:56:03 PM | message detail | #138 |
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Oops, you're not unanimous, Ulti's got Amaterasu. Nevermind.... --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/23/2007 12:55:37 AM | message detail | #139 |
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Maybe the pic advantage is enough for 2nd.... --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/23/2007 12:58:34 AM | message detail | #140 |
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From transience Posted 9/22/2007 4:49:05 PM #130 looks like most of us failed today - awesome set of writeups though, I thought. that's what happens when you get a completely unpredictable match. I'm happy with my one point here! Happpy with my 4 points yesterday, happy with my 4 points if today holds up. ~*ST*~ --- Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 1:06:12 AM | message detail | #141 |
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Master Chief.........45.69% 59910 PaRappa.................9.44% 12382 Tommy Vercetti...14.69% 19268 Yuna......................30.18% 39571 TOTAL VOTES..................131131 81.33% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly. 46.10% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly. 9.91% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd. 10.36% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st. Alucard....................27.79% 35427 Liquid Snake..........27.79% 35430 Ness........................25.42% 32413 Zidane Tribal.........19.01% 24234 TOTAL VOTES...................127504 39.97% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly. 15.55% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly. 27.92% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd. 41.78% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st. Crew bracket: 67/80 Chief owns. Yuna doesn't. Vercetti flops. PaRappa too. Zidane bomba. Ness lol. Alucard close. Liquid winner. Crew Prediction Challenge - Lopen gets a point for Chief/Yuna (fate!) and Ulti gets a point for Liquid/Alu Lopen - 4 Yoblazer - 4 Moltar - 3 Guest (Turtle, Kleenex, Who Cares?) - 3 Tran - 2 HM - 1 KH - 1 Ulti - 1 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Lopen gets a point for Chief, KH and Yo get points for Yuna, Guest gets a point for Vercetti and Moltar gets a point for PaRappa. Yo gets a point for Alucard, Lopen gets a point for Liquid, HM gets a point for Ness and Yo gets another point for Zidane HM - 15 Yoblazer - 13 Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2", chocobo) - 12 Lopen - 12 Moltar - 11 Ulti - 8 Tran - 6 KH - 5 --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Ammy/Dante/Mac/Matt - Bracket: Dante > Mac - Vote: Ammy (69/80) |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2007 4:22:55 AM | message detail | #142 |
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man, I've been failing at this all week. oh well! --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| Tatl | Posted 9/23/2007 11:26:53 AM | message detail | #143 |
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You're not alone, tranny... I haven't had a perfect division yet... Came close in the first one, but Diablo screwed that up. --- Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion! Go Midna! |
| Chaotic Mind | Posted 9/23/2007 7:26:40 PM | message detail | #144 |
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Alucard....................27.79% 35427 Liquid Snake..........27.79% 35430 !!!! Damn! Alucard lost by 3 votes?!? If i had remembered to vote yesterday he would have only lost by 2 votes! If there's three other people like me out there Alucard would have won if we had f'ing remembered to vote! Also, lawlz at the crew (except Ulti) for having Mac beating Ammy. --- Proud member of the A1 Steak Sauce Guild |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:03:08 PM | message detail | #145 |
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Division 6: Round 1 - Match 22 – Ada Wong vs. Balthier Bunansa vs. Frank West vs. Jade Curtiss Moltar’s Analysis Ada Game/Series Known From: Resident Evil Seed in 2006: 4 Lost in 2006 to Samus in Round 2 Red Dress is back in action! Balthier Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy XII Not being named Vaan should help him out. Frank Game/Series Known From: Dead Rising Another of those crazy 360 characters Jade Game/Series Known From: Tales of the Abyss Another of those crazy Tales of characters Too be honest, besides Ada, I don’t really know much about these characters. I have Balthier in first because he’s a liked character from FFXII, and Ada in second because I can’t see her being weaker than Frank West, whose name and game isn’t as big as Halo, Gears of War or KOTOR, and Jade. So how about we switch things up? Have you ever wondered how it is being part of the Analysis Crew? You may think it looks easy, but there’s actually a ton of work that goes into the final product. Here’s a look at a promotional video which shows what goes on behind the scenes of the Crew. ~*Making Of: The Contest Analysis Crew*~ *Cheesy promotional video music begins, cue Moltar sitting in front of a desk* Moltar: Hi, I’m Moltar. You may remember me from such other promotional videos as ‘GameFAQs: Not Such a Bad Place After All’, ‘Heaven Underwater: Rapture’, and ‘Barriers and You’. Today we’ll be looking at one of Board 8’s longest running traditions, the Contest Analysis Crew. Started in Spring 2004, the Crew has grown over the years. Not only in members, but in time needed and workload as well. Here’s a look at how this year’s Crew started out. 1. The Bracket Moltar: The bracket is an important part of The Crew. Without it, we wouldn’t have a Contest or know what matches to right about. This year had a huge twist in the bracket, and once we saw it, we were excited. We couldn’t wait to start predicting. *Scene switches to a large conference room with the Crew members sitting around a table, and Moltar in front of a large projected image of the bracket* Moltar: As you guys can see, there have been a ton of changes this- Yoblazer: First! Ulti: Are you kidding me, 128 characters? Talk about a fodder-fest. KH: I’ve seen better things come out of my rear…while I’m on the toilet. HM: Hey, let me predict something. Link wins, I’m done. Tran: These divisons are done…so poorly. Was a dartboard involved somewhere? Lopen: …I kinda like it I guess. Moltar: … *Scene switches back to Motlar at the desk* Moltar: Ah yes, and then after the bracket is announced, that’s when the work begins. 2. Writing The Analysis *Scene switches to the work area, which is comprised of many decent-sized cubicles. Moltar begins to navigate them* Moltar: Good to see you all are hard at work. How’s it coming along, Lopen. Lopen: It’s good…I’m just trying to justify this pick of Dante winning the bracket. Hey, I’ve got it! Moltar: …Okay then, and how about you HM? HM: *in a Mario costume, with Mario items all over his cubicle* It’s going just fine! Moltar: Ulti? Ulti: All is good here. Moltar: But…you aren’t doing anything. Ulti: I’ll get to it later…*quietly* Not so rough. Moltar: What was that? Ulti: Oh nothing. *Moltar walks away, and out from underneath Ulti’s desk pops out a random female* Ulti: I didn’t say stop. Moltar: So HM, wh-*sees HM dressed up as Cloud, with FF7 items all over his cubicle* How…did you do that?! HM: *innocently* Do what? Moltar: Nevermind…*starts to walk away* Oh, by the way. *turns back to see HM dressed up as Link, with Zelda items all over his cubicle* … |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:04:01 PM | message detail | #146 |
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*Scene switches back to Motlar at the desk* Moltar: Ahh, the workplace, such a friendly environment. Speaking of friendly environments, you can’t get much better than being a part of the Crew. All of our new recruits are welcomed with open arms and smiles. We make sure we try our hardest to have you feel like you’re part of the family. 3. Greeting the Newcomers *In the conference room* Moltar: I’d like you all to say hello to the newest member of the Crew, Transience! Tran: It’s an honor to be working with you all. To begin, I’d like to show you guys this theory I’ve been working on. Looking at past and current trends, I think it looks pretty accurate. Yo: Hold on………Did somebody just say weeaboo? Tran: Wait, excuse me? Yo: Because I think I just heard somebody say weeaboo. *Everyone pulls out a paddle and starts to advance towards Tran* Tran: What are you guys doing?! *They pull down his pants and begin paddling him while chanting* *Scene switches back to Motlar at the desk* Moltar: Haha, we just love our new guys. You know, we always see new faces in these parts. Thanks to our Guest spot, which started last year, now anyone can see what it’s like to be a part of the Crew for a day. 4. Our Guests *In the conference room* Moltar: So, here is our Guest write-up for the match. Take a look and tell me what you think! KH: …Are you serious? HM: Oh my…this is really off. Ulti: What a horrible write-up. Typos everywhere and failed humor. Yo: He has him getting THAT much? Character Battle Champion confirmed. KH: Our brackets are so screwed. *Everyone laughs* Lopen: You can tell this guy’s never been in the spotlight before. A 2 page write-up for a match this easy? He tried so hard and no one’s even going to read it! *Everyone laughs even harder* Moltar: Um…guys? Our Guest is right here. *Guest embarassingly waves to them* Everyone: Uh..oh, yeah, nice job. You did well. Nice write-up, good pick…*everyone becomes silent* Tran: …Can you just leave so we can go back to making fun of you? *Scene switches back to Motlar at the desk* Moltar: Ah yes, now you can see why we get so many Guest requests. Now, after all the write-ups for a match are finished, we put them all together in one tidy package. We may disagree on something, but in the end, we always reach a consensus. 5. The Final Touches *In the conference room* Moltar: So this is the consensus for the match. Sound good? Lopen: If by good you mean wrong, then yeah, it does. Tran: I’m telling you, it just isn’t going to happen. KH: Here, since I’ve got the biggest bracket-wang here, I’ll decide. Ulti: I’d beg to differ. EC: *pops up from underneath Ulti* I agree with that! Aww yeah. Moltar: Ulti! What did I say about inviting your guests in here? Ulti: *sigh* Alright guys, party’s over. You know where to find me later. *several ‘awws’ are heard and EC, along with several females, a midget, a clown, a fish, and a horse exit the room* Moltar: …..Anyway, where were we. Lopen: We were agreeing that the consensus is that KH is a massive tool. KH: That’s it! We’re throwing down! *KH jumps on the table at tackles Lopen, and the two duke it out.* HM and Yo: I love these! *grabs popcorn* *The other Crew members gather around making bets on the match and rooting on their pick* *10 minutes later* Lopen: Let’s just agree to disagree. KH: …Okay. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:04:46 PM | message detail | #147 |
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*Scene switches back to Motlar at the desk* After that, the write-ups are sent out to the masses, for all eyes to read. And that’s how the Analysis Crew works. I hope you all appreciated this behind the scenes look at the hard work we put into the Crew. Hopefully, someday, you’ll be right alongside us, as a part of the Crew. Thank you, and good day. Cameraman: What’s even the point of this. Why are you making a video in order to get people to be a part of the Crew? You limit the Crew to a small number of people, and you hand pick whoever belongs on the Crew yourself! Moltar: Shut up and stop the filming! Or else your other son gets the you-know-what. Cameraman: Yessir. *Video ends, credits scroll through quickly* Moltar’s Bracket Says: Balthier > Ada > Frank > Jade Moltar’s Prediction is: Balthier: 40% - Ada: 30% - Frank: 19% - Jade: 11% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis This match is so obvious that it's funny. Frank West COVERED WARS YOU KNOW, and is the main character of Dead Rising. Dead Rising has a following, but not a large one. At least, not large enough to compete with RE4 or FF12. And Jade is even easier a classification: Tales of the Abyss is not Tales of Symphonia. The only point of contention here is who comes in first place. Ada Wong has been in a contest before and won a match, while this is Balthier's debut. However despite this and FF12 being an ensemble cast, Balthier is FF12's Auron; he's the cold, cool badass that knows too much and carries the story despite not being the main character. We can guarantee that Balthier > Vaan already after seeing the contest's first match (good god did Vaan suck), but Balthier > Ada shouldn't be too much of a stretch. Could you see Balthier losing to some of the characters close to Ada in the 2006 stats? Celes is one of them, which is telling. Would you pick Balthier to beat Celes? I wouldn't. Ulti's Prediction: Balthier [36.00%] Ada Wong [30.00%] Frank West [20.00%] Jade Curtiss [14.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Balthier – 40% Ada Wong – 31% Frank West – 17% Jade Curtiss – 12% After Vaan’s poor performance at the beginning of the contest, there’s probably a number of people who are a bit suspect of what Balthier’s strength, but I’m still pretty sold on him being pretty strong -- Balthier > Midna believe! At the least, he shouldn’t have any trouble handling this pack with ease; there’s nothing but fodder here. If he can’t do well here, though, then yeah, I’d be in agreement with those thinking that FF12 just isn’t going to putting out much strength. Second place is pretty locked up, too. Some folks are talking about Frank West doing something after seeing characters like Master Chief and Marcus Fenix perform well, but he is in such a different league from those two. Dead Rising doesn’t have near the popularity of Halo or Gears of War. It’s asking an awful lot of him to take second here against Ada. Sure, Resident Evil hasn’t been too hot in this contest so far, but Ada Wong being a pretty major player in RE4 should change that quite a bit. There’s a certain advantage you get by being in what is by far the most popular game in the series. People can argue RE2 or whatever, but there’s no way that any of those games even begin to touch RE4. Combined with the release on the Wii, I think Ada’s in a fine position -- much better than Frank West at the least. And as far as Jade is concerned, we’re looking at a dude who will be lucky to get 13%. Tales characters, for the most part, have performed way too poorly here to think he’s got a shot at anything. But the highlight of this match is definitely the leading man! Taking him here with 40% almost seems a bit too low, although that may be me being a fanboy! Here’s to hoping he dominates this match! Bracket: Balthier > Ada Vote: Balthier |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:05:26 PM | message detail | #148 |
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Yoblazer’s Analysis If it weren't for the most attractively drawn female character in gaming, I'd really, really, really want to skip this damn match. Despite being a true gamer and GameFAQs junkie, I get the feeling that I don't play quite as many games as most of my fellow Board 8ers. As such, I've never been introduced to three of these four characters. When something like that happens, it's kind of difficult to even feign excitement. The three characters who are new to me are also new to the contest. They are Balthier Bunansa, Frank West, and Jade Curtiss. Our returning veteran, who has competed in a grand total of two matches, is Ada Wong. Not much experience between these four. Now, since we've seen practically nothing of all the entrants, things could get extremely unpredictable, but the heavy favorite going in is Balthier. He is, apparently, the most well-liked character from FFXII. That's all well and good, but watching Vaan give us a disappointing performance for the ages doesn't exactly make me feel any better about Balthier's chances. Unlike Vaan, however, Balthier has some advantages. First and foremost, people actually like him. Secondly, he's not splitting the vote with any other FF/Square/RPG characters. Thirdly, we can safely surmise that his competition is weak as ass. He should take this. Lord, I've missed four of the last five matches; PLEASE let him take this. The board favorite for second place is the lovely, sexy, awesomely deadly Ada Wong, from Resident Evil fame. Personally, I don't have as much confidence in Ada's chances as I'd like to. She may be from the most popular, well received game of the bunch, but she's nowhere near Leon's level, and she's up against the tournament's newest killer: XBOX. After watching Marcus Fenix, Sam Fisher, and Master Chief lay the smack down, it would be completely foolish to write off Frank West here. He's not as iconic (nor is his game as popular) as those other guys, but he's up against weaker competition, and his picture screams "badass" to the nth degree. Jade Curtiss, whoever the heck she is, has no chance, but Ada and Frank may give us fireworks in a contest that's already seen its fair share of them. In fact, don;t be surprised if we actually see a tight race for first; I'm weary about this Balthier. Balthier Bunansa - 31% Ada Wong - 29% Frank West - 28% Jade Curtiss - 12% Lopen’s Analysis Balthier is the decisive favorite going into this match. Looking at Vaan, people might have their doubts... but let me just make this clear: No one likes Vaan. That's really all there is to it. Yes, FFXII might not be the paragon of popularity here, but a character from it that doesn't suck will do fine. And Balthier more than doesn't suck, he's easily the favorite character from that game. He's got this pack o fodder well in hand. As for the other slot? I'm not as sure as I'd like to be for this one. Frank West has a case because X-Box is doing so well, and Jade Curtiss even has an offshot just because Tales characters have been doing... well... okay, ToS characters that aren't Zelos have been doing okay. My money, however, is on Ada Wong. She's got the TJF advantage over Jade, and ZKF (Zombie Killer Factor, for those keeping score at home) advantage over Frank West. Seriously though: Ada Wong probably gives Lloyd Irving a fairly close match, and Tales of the Abyss ain't not no ToS. Frank West... well, he isn't Marcus Fenix. Dead Rising wasn't quite the same league of hit as the other X-Box powers had this year. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:06:22 PM | message detail | #149 |
| Doubt RE because it's been sucking this year, but
we ain't seen RE4 yet. Ada Wong is the safe pick for second, and she's
who I'm picking. Heck, something fishy might've even happened with her
against Samus... the way I see it, you can't be that
weak and destroy something 75-25. Unless Jade is Tanner's brother. Not
this Jade. Not the ninja chick either. The other Jade. Lopen's Prediction: Balthier Bunansa - 35.04% Ada Wong - 27.88% Jade Curtiss - 19.04% Frank West - 18.04% Karma Hunter’s Analysis Transience’s Analysis I've heard some doubts about Balthier lately, and I can kind of understand why. everyone new has pretty much bombed outside of Marcus Fenix. Vaan did pretty bad (though I thought that was expected), Midna did poorly, Raiden.. everyone new seems to be floundering a bit. fortunately for our brackets, it's not going to matter even if he does bomb. I can't see him losing to Ada Wong, Frank West and Jade Curtiss. come on, that's one weak pack right there. Ada might put a little scare into him because she's from the most popular game, but Balthier's quite the fan-favourite and should have nothing to worry about here. I've heard some hype for Frank West lately because Xbox characters have been doing well. I can't help but laugh at these -- this is Frank West. boring name, boring guy, boring character design. I don't think Dead Rising is a huge title on this site, not like RE4 is. even a side character from RE4 can beat a bum like Frank West. I give Ada a better chance of beating Balthier than Frank of beating Ada oh, and Jade Curtiss is going to do freaking awful. he's got all of Zelos's character design woes along with one-fifth of the sales. it's amazing what being a GC title will do for you. Jade seems to be universally liked among the Abyss fanbase, but I think its sales are Shadow Hearts-esque. we could be looking at a real low number here. Frank West? Jade Curtiss? Balthier and Ada win big WAIT, JADE IS A BOY? transience's prediction: Balthier with 37.55%, Ada with 32.66%, Frank West with 18.95%, Jade with 10.84% Guest’s Analysis - PokemonPatriarch Ada Wong:Miss “***** in the red dress” makes a not-so glorious return to the contest field after getting 80-20’d by Samus Aran last year. I still love you Ada. :( Balthier Bunansa: Mister “I think I’m a new-age Setzer” makes his debut to the contest field, and in style! Frank West: Mister zombie-tographer gets a “rise” out of the competition…get it?! Jade Curtiss: Mister “Leave Britney Alone”, only now he has a compelling character, glasses, and military rank. You’ve really turned your life around after that video, Chris! Now that we know the characters a bit better (or worse :P), let’s take a look at their viability… For starters, Jade is surefire fodder. The “Tales of…” series has done a poor job representing in this contest, and since Jade is even more obscure than Zelos, “non-GoW” Kratos, or Lloyd, he’s likely to be dead last. Frank, however, is a harder to figure out. “Dead Rising” is a relatively popular X-Box title, but that’s just it: X-Box-exclusive popularity means nothing except for Master Chief and Marcus Fenix. I may be completely wrong, but for now let’s just think of Frank as a slightly better tanner, with a whole lot of unpredictability. In other words: both are extreme fodder, but because nobody likes a girly man, and because some “RPG” SFF will be going on (don’t kill me for suggesting it), I think Jade will get last. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:07:15 PM | message detail | #150 |
| That only leaves Ada and Balthier, but the real
question is…who gets first? In situations like these I prefer proven
characters, which neither of these guys are. Ada, as previously
mentioned, looked like CATS when up against Samus. Although in most
situations she “should” have enough going for her (GotY 2005,
strong/sexy/mysterious female character/etc), that loss to Samus is
enough to make me give the nod to Balthier. In addition to having the
all-important Squeenix name behind him, Balthier carries Vaan’s weight
the same way Auron carries Tidus’: since the leads are so unpopular,
people need a firm supporting character to rally around. In other
words, he’s the ONLY person FFXII fans want to vote for that made the
contest! 1st: Balthier (30.5%) 2nd: Ada (28.5%) 3rd: Frank (16.8%) 4th: Chris Crocker (14.2%) Although I’m putting Balthier in first, there’s at least a 5% margin of error, should Ada’s egg-laying to Samus be a complete fluke. Regardless, I think it’ll be close either way, unless Balth really comes out smoking. Peace! Crew Consensus: Balthier > Ada...yep. |
