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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2

Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 9:39:47 PM | message detail | #051
I like Lloyd and I agree with that statement whole-heartedly
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
ZFS | Posted 9/17/2007 9:40:59 PM | message detail | #052
hey kh do you like vyse

Final Fantasy VII Remake -- Believe
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 9:41:35 PM | message detail | #053
If Vyse wins I'll cut you
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
DpObliVion | Posted 9/17/2007 10:52:31 PM | message detail | #054
DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis:

Oh my God, I got one right! Way to go, Raiden!


Can I get back to back matches correctly for the first time since Cloud/Ocelot and Auron/Shadow? This is another match that doesn't leave me all that confident (not many matches ahead do though, honestly). Once again, it's a lock for first - Zero - and a tough-to-predict fight for 2nd place, where all three contenders could have a legitimate chance at taking it.

My pick to take it is HK-47, as the Star Wars/KOTOR series has shown some pretty good strength. Lloyd Irving has a shot, as the Tales of Symphonia series has a pretty loyal fanbase, but as seen already, it hasn't been big enough to propel Zelos or Kratos into the 2nd round; though Kratos managed 21% in his match, so if those voters return, the pressure could be on HK-47. Jak could be a wildcard here as well, as he could have a good casual vote, but he's probably not all that strong to begin with, and the casual vote likely won't be enough in this format with his opponents.

DpOblivion's bracket says: Zero > HK-47

DpOblivion's prediction is: Zero > HK-47

Confidence Rating: 70%

Zero - 41%
HK-47 - 23%
Lloyd Irving - 19%
Jak - 17%

Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS
furryjenny | Posted 9/17/2007 11:00:25 PM | message detail | #055
I'm just here for the contest.
Lopen | Posted 9/18/2007 1:15:37 AM | message detail | #056
Oooh man, if Lloyd wins this one, does that make it the first time I've hit without anyof you fools riding my illustrious coattails? I think so! Kill, Lloyd, kill!
Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly.
Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets.
transience | Posted 9/18/2007 1:20:49 AM | message detail | #057
well, either way we can say lol tranny!

lol transtar
Lopen | Posted 9/18/2007 1:25:31 AM | message detail | #058
Actually not only can we can say lol tranny, but also lol KH, and lolol Ulti, for those keeping score at home. You and your damn 14%s!
Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly.
Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets.
trannyscience | Posted 9/18/2007 4:55:46 PM | message detail | #059
looks like we're safe!
"war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 6:42:41 PM | message detail | #060
Oooh man, if Lloyd wins this one, does that make it the first time I've hit without anyof you fools riding my illustrious coattails?

You were the only one that had Scorp > Midna IIRC
Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
HK-47/Lloyd/Jak/Zero - Bracket: Zero > HK-47 - Vote: HK-47 (52/60)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 6:53:55 PM | message detail | #061
Crono......................48.18% 60534
Sam Fisher............19.86% 24944
Simon Belmont.....11.81% 14836
Raiden....................20.15% 25316
TOTAL VOTES...................125630

72.36% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
36.42% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

9.13% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
6.67% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crono does well, Raiden underperforms and Sam almost pulls a quick one over us.

Crew Prediction Challenge - Another point for Yo!

Yoblazer - 4
Lopen - 3
Guest (Turtle, Kleenex) - 2
Moltar - 2
Tran - 2
KH - 1
Ulti - 0
HM - 0

Crew Accuracy Challenge - HM gets 2 points for Crono and Simon, Ulti gets a point for Raiden, and Yo gets a point for Sam.

HM - 11
Yoblazer - 10
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2", Kleenex "3") - 9
Moltar - 8
Lopen - 7
Tran - 6
Ulti - 6
KH - 4
Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
HK-47/Lloyd/Jak/Zero - Bracket: Zero > HK-47 - Vote: HK-47 (52/60)
The Real Truth | Posted 9/18/2007 7:02:14 PM | message detail | #062
Just finished my write-up. Waiting for hotmail to fix whatever problems it's having.
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC
The Real Truth | Posted 9/18/2007 7:59:40 PM | message detail | #063
K sent you analysis.
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2007 8:01:30 PM | message detail | #064
If Lloyd wins something has gone wrong somewhere.

I miss the Lloyd fanboy HM.
"I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work."
Lopen | Posted 9/18/2007 9:18:38 PM | message detail | #065
You were the only one that had Scorp > Midna IIRC

Nah. Guest in the form of Dp also had it.
Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly.
Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 9:45:41 PM | message detail | #066
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 17 – Luigi vs. Mudkip vs. Pit vs. Tingle

Moltar’s Analysis

Game/Series Known From: Super Mario
Seed in 2003: 3
Seed in 2004: 4
Seed in 2005: 2
Seed in 2006: 2
Lost in 2003 to Squall in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Yoshi in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Tifa in Round 2
Lost in 2006 to Sonic in Round 3

Luigi coming off a hot 2006.

Game/Series Known From: Pokemon

So I heard this site likes Mudkips.

Game/Series Known From: Kid Icarus

SSBB hype does wonders.

Game/Series Known From: Legend of Zelda
Seed in 2006: 8
Lost in 2006 to Sora in Round 1


Begin Divison 5! Also known as the Divison with no Noble Niners, meaning we’re going to be seeing some unfamiliar faces in the Semis!

Just like the last match, this one also has an obvious number 1 with three others fighting for the second spot. First up, there’s Mudkip. Thanks to its very popular fad, it actually has a good shot at making Round 2. Heck, if BIDOOF (Bidoof Bii~~!) can get support into Round 2, I don’t see why Mudkip can’t. His chances are even better thanks to being a starter as well.

Then there is Pit. In my opinion, he has the least chance of seeing Round 2. Kid Icarus isn’t exactly a hugely popular game, and considering there’s opponents from Mario, Zelda and Pokemon here (Nintendo’s three big sellers representin’!) Pit isn’t making a dent.

Oh wait, there is that one game that’s coming out soon that Pit will be in. Smash Bros. Brawl (NOW WITH ONLINE THANK YOU OUR LORD AND MASTER SAKURAI-SAAAAAAAAN) or something. Well, right now the only case that can be made for Brawl hype at the moment is Meta Knight, who easily took second in his match. This will be the true test for the Brawl hype theory though, as Pit literally has nothing else going for him.

And then there’s Tingle, who doesn’t even deserve a section of his own in this write-up. He got 30-something percent on Sora last year and…is a stupid stupid dum dum yeeeeeeaaarrgghhh

Anyway, big guestion is who gets second behind Luigi. My answer is Mudkip. I feel good about him with Bidoof winning his match and all.

“Oh yeah Moltar? Well I have Pit and I feel good about him because of Meta Knight winning his match!”

“Oh yeah? Well I have Tingle winning second and I feel good about him because ZELDAPHEAR WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL!!

…Fine, Pokemon has been doing well so far, and with Mudkip being a starter of one of the games, I think he’ll have more backing than Pit, and get more support from series-supporters than Tingle.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Luigi > Mudkip > Tingle > Pit

Moltar’s Prediction is: Luigi: 48% - Mudkip: 21% - Tingle: 16% - Pit: 15%

Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

My apologies to Moltar for the short writeup here, but I refuse to acknowledge Tingle. Ever. I know he has the inside track for second place, but I'd rather lose a point picking a joke character than win a point picking Tingle.

As for whatever morons would vote Tingle over *Luigi*, die plz kthx. Don't let me down, Anonymous.

Ulti's Prediction: (joke pick, just for the record)

Luigi [50.00%]
Mudkip [25.00%]
Pit [24.99%]
Tingle [0.01%]

Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Luigi -- 45%
Tingle -- 17%
Mudkip -- 23%
Pit -- 14%

This may be the worst match in the history of these contests.

No, this is the worst match in the history of these contests.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 9:46:05 PM | message detail | #067
For reasons that escape me, for reasons that will haunt me for the duration of this contest, the denizens of GameFAQs love these...Pokemon things. Not even in a normal, “oh everyone else sucks here and I like Pokemon so *click*.” No, more of an “OHMYGOD IS THAT A POKETURD I SEE THERE LET ME VOTE FOR IT.”

Bidoof, Bidoof managed to get 20,000 votes and something like 16% against Link. I daresay that Mr. Mudkipz here will get much more -- Luigi is no Link.

Why, GameFAQs, why?!

The obvious choice to me when I was making my bracket was Tingle. I mean, yeah, who the damn hell likes Tingle? He may not be likable at all, but he’s got the Zelda fanbase behind him, or at least a portion of it. And then he didn’t perform all that terribly against Sora last year, and honestly... Mudkip?

What in the damn hell is a “mudkip”

I’ll tell you what a Mudkip is -- Mudkipz are the damn devil. And it has a legion of followers that will vote for, but don’t be deceived this is what they look like:

But after that absurd performance by Bidoof, what in the world can you do? It’s like there’s no other choice here; it’s join the mudkipz or be left behind. Pit? That’s nothing but SSBB hype. Tingle? Yeah, there’s a possibility of something happening there, but...

i think i would vote for black turtle over mudkip

Bracket: Luigi > Tingle
Vote: Refuse

Yoblazer’s Analysis

Where there was so much to write about mere days ago, there is now much, much less. What was once one of the first round's most debated matches now seems about as obvious as Link in the finals. I can't say I like it, but I'll write a few para's because that's just how I roll.

While the foursome of Fox/Falcon/Wario/Banjo was pretty close, this is our first and possibly only match featuring four true blue Nintendo characters. As such, it should be one SFF cluster****. The clear winner has always been Luigi, and nothing has changed this. Luigi is an established Nintendo veteran, loved by gamers worldwide, and his opponents are still a goofy Pokemon, a guy with nothing but possible hype and a 20-year-old game, and god damned Tingle. WEE-GEE TIME.

Now, the subject of debate here, like in several other matches, was the second place winner. All three of Luigi's opponents are perceived to be very low on the Nintendo ladder, all of them have been argued for and against, and they've each got some board bracket support. So, who wins? The Pokemon. See ya later.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that Pit and Tingle would have to pull out some kind of miracle to get some decent support against Luigi. Pit's tiny series fizzled and faded into obscurity over 15 years ago. That won't win you ****; go ask Pitfall Harry.The only reason people banked on Pit is because of the mere possibility of Smash hype. It's not insane; Super Smash Bros. Brawl is the most hyped game on this site, and Pit is one of the new characters. Instant votes, right? No, not really. Why would the people who are pumped for Smash vote for Pit when Luigi is right there? Seriously, why? Smash hype caused them to like him more? Smash hype means he's suddenly the greatest character ever? Good lord, Luigi is already in both Smash games and is guaranteed to be in Brawl. Check how well Captain Falcon, a fan favorite, did against Fox, and come back still praising Pit's chances. Poor Pit.

The winner won't be Tingle, either. I picked Tingle, and why did I do that? Because I'm stupider than a brick. That's all for Tingle.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 9:46:51 PM | message detail | #068
No, my awesome friends, the big winner here will be stupid Mudkip and that stupid smile of his. The Mudkip fad was created by 4chan (those who apparently rallied big for the even stupider Bidoof), so you know they'll be trying even harder today. This, coupled with joke votes, gives Mudkip two crucial assets that neither Pit nor Tingle have: a guaranteed medium for votes over Luigi. If Bidoof can put up 16% against Link, I'm expecting Mudkip, who has to deal with weaker competition, to surpass that. God help us all. Oh, I'm also expecting Luigi to kick some ass. Maybe if I pretend he's the only guy in this match, I'll feel better! OH YA. OH YA.

Luigi - 49%
Mudkip - 20%
Pit - 16%
Tingle - 15%

Lopen’s Analysis

Weird match. Like Link, Luigi is given a group of three epic fodder entries. It's funny because I think he might outdo some Niner's %s in this match. Anyway, I'm just gonna go over the strengths of each of these fodders, and try to determine which has the chance to suck least here:

Mudkip has the backing of 4Chan in his corner... at least I think... I dunno. I'm not sure what that even amounts to. He's also a Pokemon. I'm also not sure how much that amounts to. Basically, the reason I fear him in this match is because of Bidoof somehow getting more than 1% in his match. POKE'FEAR... gotta fear em all!

Tingle has the strength of being a Zelda character, and the prestige of not getting destroyed by Sora (agh DIE TINGLE DIE SORA WITH 100% OF THE VOTE) last year, I guess. I didn't consider him much of a threat when filling out my bracket... but he may be a concern just because he's a Zelda character... ZELDAFEAR, bringin fear in large quantities since 2004!

Lastly, we have Pit. Most obviously, he has Brawl hype on his side. I don't think that's a huge factor, though seeing Meta Knight it could be. He also has the most appealing character design out of any of the characters in this poll. Pit is a hardcore badass, man. ... unless he gets some 8-bit stuff... but then he'll take the old school block! Right... right... anyway. Last but not least, he seems to me that he'd be the only character in this poll that would actually have any sort of legitimate fanbase from the old Kid Icarus days. Of course, a lot the whole "legitimate fanbase" thing did for Miles Edgeworth. And oh yeah... last but not least... ICARUSFEAR!

Okay, maybe there isn't any of that... I'm taking him anyway and hoping Mudkip doesn't do something stupid like Bidoof.

Lopen's Prediction:
Luigi – 50.04% (look at you, you look like a juggernaut put up against this crap!)
Pit – 18.92%
Tingle – 16.83%
Mudkip – 14.21%

Karma Hunter’s Analysis

...I know I'm supposed to be getting into that enthusiastic groove of matches, but this *thing* has just taken the wind out of my sails. I don't even know how to approach this, and extended analysis seems guaranteed to backfire. So I'll keep it short and curt. For now.

After seeing Meta Knight in action I feel Pit should have this, but Bidoof and 4chan's promise to be far more obsessive in this match over this idiotic thing (and I have no confidence in GameFAQs catching cheaters at all here) put me off. But I'm not picking Mudkip. I'd pick Edgey all over again if I had to. As for Tingle, I don't think he can win this anymore (though he may not come in last).

At least though, SSBB has yet to disappoint me. Let's see how much it's worth with ****ing LUIGI in the match (no, doesn't quite have the same ring to it).

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Luigi with 56%, Pit with 20%, Mudkip with 16%, Tingle with 8%

Upset Probability: 1000%

...****ing 4chan
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 9:47:16 PM | message detail | #069
Transience’s Analysis

ahh, division 5. nail this sucker and you're probably going to be on the leaderboard.

for the second day in a row, we have a very obvious first place and a pile of crap for second. Luigi is going to dominate this poll, probably even moreso considering it's another all-Nintendo fourpack. I wouldn't be surprised to see Luigi breaking 50% in this match just because of the shared fanbase.

so, who takes second? well, let's start with Pit. I am one of the board's biggest Kid Icarus fans, and let me tell you, it's highly unlikely that a fan of the game even knows the name Pit. it's even less likely than Wander. for years, I thought his name was Icarus. Pit has some fans (hello), but he's basically working off his awesome character design in Brawl. Meta-Knight may have impressed, but at least he had reasons for people to like him. Pit's reason is that people have seen pictures in a trailer or on a website of him. sorry, I'm not picking him to beat out anybody based on that. I'd love it if he did, but it'd be pretty shocking. I can't believe he's the Guru favourite here.

Tingle might suck ass, but at least he's Zelda. Tingle managed 25% on post-KH2 Sora, which really isn't bad given the quality of his competition here. some people might find voting for him to be funny, too. still, I refuse to believe that Tingle can get too many votes in this format, not when there's three better Nintendo options in the fold. screw you, Tingle. only Heroic Mario likes you.

then there's Mudkip. Mudkip has appeal in two places: he's a popular starter in the GBA games (the GBA Pokemon generation might be the weakest of the four, but it's still Pokemon), and of course the whole 4chan fad. it looks like Mudkip will have appeal to both the "kiddies" and the internet hate machine.

I don't know a lot about 4chan, but my understanding of the place is that /v/ were the ones behind the Bidoof rallying/vote stuffing the other night. /v/ managed to bring in more votes in the first five minutes of the poll than any other poll we've had. also, if there was any vote stuffing, it looks like the administrators we have aren't going to do anything about it, given that we've yet to even see a post from them this contest season. basically, if 4chan does its thing with Mudkip and the whole site gets behind it, this match isn't going to be close. if they were willing to do so with a much smaller fad like Bidoof, why wouldn't they wreak havoc with Mudkip? I was confident in Mudkip before the Bidoof match, and now I'm even more confident. and if you believe in 4chan's crazy rallying power along with Luigi and Ganondorf splitting votes in the next round...

Mudkip and 4chan
vote for it for "epic lulz"
yeah I don't get it

transience's prediction: Luigi with 49.66%, Mudkip with 19.67%, Pit with 15.34%, Tingle with 15.33%

Guest’s Analysis - Leonhart

Man, talk about an odd setup of a fourpack. Luigi is basically being given a free pass into the second round without any threat of competition. None of these guys would avoid a doubling (or maybe even a tripling) head-to-head with the green, mustachioed one, so don’t even kid yourself into thinking they have any chance of beating him. Even though Luigi is a high midcarder and not quite in the ranks of the elite, with this group he’s facing, he should easily get well over half of the votes here. Add in the fact that they’re all from Nintendo and it becomes even easier.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2007 9:48:31 PM | message detail | #070
What’s not so easy to decide is who gets second place here. Mudkip is a starter Pokemon from one of the more recent installments of the series (Not sure which one, not a big fan of the games, personally). He was heavily rallied in, and he’s even found a place on the Character Battle VI banner. Like Nidoran F last year and Bidoof this year, Mudkip is looking to get his fair share of joke votes in this match, and in this group, it could be all he needs to advance. However, I really wonder how many people will view him as a joke character. After all, he’s not just some random scrub Pokemon like Nidoran F or Bidoof. He’s actually a starter Pokemon, which almost makes him more along the lines of Pikachu, Charmander, or Squirtle, in that they would be getting serious fan support, not merely joke votes. Sure, perhaps the strange design and the funny name might draw some joke voting, but the fact that Mudkip seems to be a worthwhile Pokemon might actually work against him in this situation.

Pit is another one of those guys who’s only here because he’s been announced in Super Smash Brothers Brawl (like Meta-Knight and Ike). His last (and only) game was WAYYYYYYY back in the late 1980s, Kid Icarus. In other words, this guy has been missing in action for a really long time. Just about anyone who’s actually old enough to remember him is probably all grown up and won’t make up a significant percentage of the votes. Sorry, tranny, but your generation of gamers is quickly becoming a bunch of fossils! These young whippersnappers wouldn’t know what an NES was even if you hooked it up to their TV. Pit is a relic of a time long past, which is going to hurt his chances severely here. He’s basically working on Super Smash Brothers Brawl hype alone to pull him through this match. If it weren’t for the fact that he’s facing three other Nintendo characters in this match, it might be enough to push him past this group for second place, but as it stands, he’s going to struggle to get votes. Pit just doesn’t have the fanbase right now to break through the Nintendo hierarchy and get second place here.

Out of the three battling for second place, Tingle is the only one we’ve ever seen in action before. He made his contest debut last year as an 8 seed, facing off against Sora. He did end up getting tripled, but all things considered, he didn’t end up looking THAT bad because he was facing a KHII-boosted Sora who got nearly 46% on Mega Man that year. Regardless, people have always questioned the ability of Sora and Kingdom Hearts to blow things out. Perhaps Tingle’s value (weak though it may be as it is already) is inflated a bit. Even so, his competition for second place isn’t terribly strong, and he’s facing a bunch of fellow Nintendo characters. Even though the guy seems universally hated, he IS from the Legend of Zelda series, and it feels like some of those fans will support anyone, even if it is Tingle.

As much as it pains me to even say this, Tingle is the best bet to advance to the second round of these three. He’s likely the strongest already, and in a Nintendo SFF-fest, he’s in a favorable position. As the old saying goes: When in doubt, side with Zelda. Oh well, at least we’ll get the satisfaction of watching Tingle get double-SFF’d by Luigi and Ganondorf the next round.

Leonhart’s Vote: The oft-misfiring and exploding Green Missile himself, Luigi!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Luigi – 65.23%
Tingle – 14.77%
Mudkip – 11.11%
Pit – 8.89%

Crew Consensus: Pokefear hits the Crew! 5 have Luigi > Mudkip, 2 have Luigi > Pit, 1 has Luigi > Tingle.
Lady Ashe | Posted 9/18/2007 9:53:40 PM | message detail | #071
and all of them have a crappy character advancing. yay
Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism.
DpObliVion | Posted 9/18/2007 10:05:12 PM | message detail | #072
DpOblivion's Unofficial Supposedly-Quick-But-Apparently-Not Analysis:

Okay, here we go, unpopular and controversial opinions ahead....

So, I'm feeling good, I've gotten two perfect matches in a row after a real rough streak, I'm hoping to turn it around, not feeling too bad about my upcoming pick....until I check the Oracle topic and see Tingle being completely and utterly discounted in this match, 4th place by quite a bit in most predictions. Sigh....

Now, I know as far as Legend of Zelda characters go, Tingle is pretty low tier. But he still showed in his match last year against Sora that he can get the votes. Luigi should easily get 1st place here, but against three other Nintendo characters, he's likely to underperform. Pit may have some Super Smash Bros. Brawl hype, but other than that, I don't see him being all that strong (but then again, Meta Knight beat out Peach for 2nd with that hype, but Meta Knight should have been a good bit stronger than Pit pre-SSBB).

The concern here is the stupid fad of Mudkip, which was deservingly but unfortunately wrongfully discounted when filling out my bracket. We saw Bidoof advance behind a powerful Nintendo character and weak other opponents, and now Mudkip, a stronger fad character, has a 1st place Nintendo character in Luigi who is much weaker than Link, and also weak other opponents. Sadly, he could steal a lot of the votes that Luigi will lose in this format.

I still have confidence in Tingle getting a good deal of those votes though. False confidence? Maybe. Perhaps probably. Perhaps definitely. I'm really having a tough time defending my pick, it may just be disgust at the thought of another stupid fad Pokemon advancing and costing me points that is making me biased. /whine

Legend of Zelda is the most popular series on this site though, so even though it's just Tingle, I feel that people are underestimating him here. If Tingle can pull this off, I will breathe a big sigh of relief, and admittedly will probably be a bit arrogant, like I was after Luigi > Zero.

If Mudkip advances, I will hate the Internet.

DpOblivion's bracket says: Luigi > Tingle

DpOblivion's prediction is: Luigi > Tingle

Confidence Rating: 10%

Luigi - 38%
Tingle - 29%
Mudkip - 19%
Pit - 14%

Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS
trannyscience | Posted 9/18/2007 10:14:08 PM | message detail | #073
if Tingle gets 29%, my face will fall off.
"war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu
DpObliVion | Posted 9/18/2007 10:19:12 PM | message detail | #074
Yeah, I copied my original prediction, made a change, then forgot to copy my new prediction before pasting in my analysis.

This is my real prediction.

Luigi - 38%
Tingle - 24%
Mudkip - 21%
Pit - 17%

Actually, come to think of it....I'm changing again.

Luigi - 41%
Tingle - 24%
Mudkip - 23%
Pit - 12%

Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS
Gaddswell | Posted 9/19/2007 4:20:32 AM | message detail | #075

Well, better luck next time Dp. And it looks like Leonhart continues his streak of overestimating winners and undershooting 2nd place.
Finally a damn bracket!
trannyscience | Posted 9/19/2007 3:14:40 PM | message detail | #076
more "aw yeah analysis crew"? we're actually doing pretty good this year.

this will change soon, aw yeah

"war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu
Lady Ashe | Posted 9/19/2007 5:13:43 PM | message detail | #077
damnit moltar
Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 6:48:01 PM | message detail | #078
HK-47.........................21.3% 27044
Lloyd Irving..............20.22% 25683
Jak...........................18.92% 24030
Zero.........................39.56% 50230
TOTAL VOTES....................126987

30.17% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
11.55% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

45.75% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
21.69% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Zero fails to break 40%. What a joke am I right? Plus, HK-47 beats Lloyd and Jak for second.

Crew Prediction Challenge - Our Guest nabs the point with pretty darn good picks.

Yoblazer - 4
Guest (Turtle, Kleenex, Who Cares?) - 3
Lopen - 3
Moltar - 2
Tran - 2
KH - 1
Ulti - 0
HM - 0

Crew Accuracy Challenge - Guest gets 2 points for Zero and HK, HM gets a point for Lloyd and Lopen gets a point for Jak.

HM - 12
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2") - 11
Yoblazer - 10
Moltar - 8
Lopen - 8
Tran - 6
Ulti - 6
KH - 4
Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Luigi/Mudkip/Pit/Tingle - Bracket: Luigi > Mudkip - Vote: Luigi (56/64)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 6:51:11 PM | message detail | #079
more "aw yeah analysis crew"? we're actually doing pretty good this year.

Crew bracket would be 58/68 after today. That's leaderboard stuff right there!
Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Luigi/Mudkip/Pit/Tingle - Bracket: Luigi > Mudkip - Vote: Luigi (56/64)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 8:38:53 PM | message detail | #080
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 18 – Ganondorf vs. Ratchet vs. Thrall vs. Vergil

Moltar’s Analysis

Game/Series Known From: Legend of Zelda
Seed in 2003: 12
Seed in 2004: 8
Seed in 2005: 3
Seed in 2006: 4
Lost in 2003 to Magus in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Link in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Samus in Round 3
Lost in 2006 to Vincent in Round 1


Game/Series Known From: Ratchet and Clank
Seed in 2003: 14
Seed in 2004: 13
Lost in 2003 to Luigi in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Dante in Round 1

Even I had forgotten he had been in 2 contests!

Game/Series Known From: Warcraft

Can he follow in Arthas’s footsteps?

Game/Series Known From: Devil May Cry


MATCH OF ROUND 1 RIGHT HERE! You know why? Because it has Ganon taking first by a mile.

Bias aside, there are other characters gunning for second (I don’t even know how to re-phrase it at this point). First up is Thrall, and I honestly couldn’t tell you much about him. If Arthas is any sign though, he shouldn’t be counted out of this match.

Then there is Vergil, who we know a bit more about. He was in the Villians Contest and lost 80-20 to Sephiroth. Doesn’t sound too good…but Liquid only got 24% on him and he might advance and...uhh, next!

Lastly, there’s Ratchet. Killed in 2003. Came back. Killed in 2004.

Honestly, I went with Vergil because I liked him the most out of the three. DMC is a strong franchise on the site, and I can see Vergil getting some backing in this match. Ratchet gets the casual vote since his name is in the title of a Sony platforming series. Thrall…maybe does as well as Arthas?

Who really cares though? As long as Ganondorf gets first, nothing else matters. Who cares if you lose two points on who gets second? I’ll tell you who, no one! The only reason this match needs to take place is because we need to watch Ganondorf own some faces after the tragedy that happened last year. This time you will see the true power of the beast!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Ganondorf > Vergil > Thrall > Ratchet

Moltar’s Prediction is: Ganondorf: 47% - Vergil: 20% - Thrall: 19% - Ratchet: 14%

Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Second match in a row in which the winner will likely be so far ahead of the three others that any of the three other conceivably stands a chance. Even with last year's loss, Ganondorf is still a *beast* for a non-NN character and will have a boost thanks to Twilight Princess.

Process of elimination with the other three should be easy enough. We already know that Vergil is stronger than Ratchet (and by quite a lot), so it comes down to World of Warcraft being a wild card again.

But like I said back in the second match of the contest, Blizzard fans care about the games, not the characters so much. Rallying attempts for Kerrigan bombing twice have kind of proven this, and I don't even think this match falls on a Tuesday if the contest starts on time. Thrall, despite being arguably the best character in the Worldcraft universe, should easily fall by the wayside here. The popularity of DMC3 is no joke.

Ulti's Prediction:

Ganondorf [45.50%]
Vergil [25.00%]
Thrall [14.76%]
Ratchet [14.74%]

Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Ganondorf – 45%
Thrall -- 23%
Vergil -- 20%
Ratchet -- 12%

Man, as exciting as Division 5 gets later on, its first round sucks. Not to say this match is unexciting, at least insofar as its potential to be close, but man, these characters (except Ganon) are just no!
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 8:39:24 PM | message detail | #081
This match relies almost entirely on the Warcraft fanbase and how they support their character. If they support him in any meaningful way, and give him the same kind of love they gave Arthas, I think he’s a lock to move on. But if for whatever reason they don’t back him, Vergil has a good shot at taking second. Given the nature of this format, I’m banking on it before the former before the latter.

After Arthas’ performance earlier in the round, I think there’s good reason to have confidence in Thrall. Arthas is undoubtedly the stronger of the two, but Thrall doesn’t exactly need to be hanging with Arthas in order to pull this off either. I’m really skeptical of how Devil May Cry is going to do in this type of format, too. DMC, particularly Dante and to a lesser extent Vergil, strikes me as a big casual draw, but with very little hardcore backing. I suppose we might get an idea of how true that is or isn’t here.

But yeah, this match just depends on the Warcraft fans. Ganon is going to take this rather dominantly, so it’s just a battle for second between Thrall and Vergil -- Ratchet’s got no shot at this one -- and I like Thrall’s chances. Let’s hope he gets the box art picture!

Bracket: Ganondorf > Thrall
Vote: Ganondorf

Yoblazer’s Analysis

God damned Mudkip. Moving on from that train wreck, we arrive at a match guaranteed to leave a less bitter aftertaste. Thank heavens, too, because that god damned Mudkip. As we've already seen several times before, today's match features two characters practically guaranteed to earn first and fourth place, and two others sandwiched in the middle.

In first place, Ganondorf *plays organ*. The Gerudo King had a poor 2006, only appearing in one match before getting the boot, but that means nothing here. Ganon has some pretty scary power, and he's the only Nintendo character in this field, so he'll cruise to Round 2 all nice and pretty. His true test lies in the next few rounds; today is just a warm-up.

In last place, Ratchet *plays kazoo*. I love Ratchet's games, but as a character, he's admittedly very, very weak. So weak, in fact, that he's never even managed more than 25% in a match. That kind of reputation and a complete lack of a fanbase ain't gonna get it done here, son. Pump some iron, come back in a few years, and maybe you can crack the fodder line. *snicker*

OK, now the MEAT. Thrall vs. Vergil, baby! Warcraft vs. Devil May Cry, oh yeah! I believe Vergil is the considerable favorite in the Guru Challenge and BOP, but many have argued that Thrall's chances are looking up. What is the basis for this claim? Well, the fantastic performance of Warcraft's Arthas Menethil, for starters. Arthas shocked the board by not only greatly surpassing his predicted percentage, but by beating Diablo along the way. In addition to this, several other characters with relatively small, rabid fanbases, such as Phoenix Wright, HK-47, and the god damned Pokemon, have performed admirably as well. With Thrall's Warcraft background and 100% recognizability among WoW fans, he's in line for the same performance, and that's why I picked him.

Of course, Vergil may have something to say about that, but I believe him to be a bit too casual to stand up to a fanbase such as Thrall's. Simply put: if Thrall is as strong as Arthas, this match is completely over. Knowing nothing about Warcraft, I'm not sure if he is, but hell, let's say he is and call it a day.

God damned Mudkip.

Ganondorf - 41%
Thrall - 24%
Vergil - 21%
Ratchet - 14%

Lopen’s Analysis

Vergil, Thrall, and Ratchet. This match was a no brainer for me when the bracket came out, and right now, I think it still is. Everyone's ignoring Ratchet, and I think everyone is justified, so I'm going to do that too.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 8:39:59 PM | message detail | #082
So what we've got is a battle between Vergil and Thrall. People are citing Arthas's mighty 15% as a reason to fear Thrall in this match. Citing that Vergil could not possibly defeat Diablo in a poll. Man, screw that. I'd take Vergil to give KOS-MOS a run in that poll. 15% is 15%. Arthas is not strong. I said that Mega Man was going to suck up Diablo's votes, and sure enough, Diablo sucked. I don't buy it was some sort of Blizzard fanbase split... he just doesn't seem to be the type of character to do well in these polls. You want a better idea of Arthas's strength? Compare him to KOS-MOS's performance. WoW is not popular here, we've seen it in enough polls to know that. Warcraft 3 is what is keeping Arthas afloat... and Warcraft 3 would make Arthas much stronger than Thrall.

As if Vergil needs Thrall to be fodder, though. Vergil looked good in the Villains Contest. Based on what he did there, I'd call him a low midcarder. Sephiroth owned him, but I blame the match pic to some degree and the fact that it's Sephiroth. Seph's underperformances in that contest didn't come until the later rounds.

Anywho. Vergil > Thrall. I'll be pretty surprised if it's close, but never say never, I guess!

Oh, and as an aside, you'll notice I'm taking Pigman to go low. Well, if you remember what I said before in Zelda's match... I expect some near elite characters to do poorly in this contest. Zelda was one, and big surprise, Pigman is another. Zelda coattail votes are less likely the more and more opponents you get.

Lopen's Prediction:
Pigman – 36.54%
Vergil – 30.27%
Thrall – 18.96%
Ratchet – 15.23%

Karma Hunter’s Analysis

...and after that abomination, we're back.


The King of Evil is back after his kinda-sorta-HAHAHAHA embarrassing loss to Vincent last year, and hopes to resolidify his position as second strongest Zelda character after his main competition slipped up against the same guy this year. He's got zero competition for first place in this match, so he's got to spread his wings and try to show us if he got anything from TP here. Can he show us why Zeldafear shouldn't just be renamed Linkfear...?


One of the weakest recurring entrants to ever grace these contests. Has he had a new game? It doesn't really freakin' matter. Ratchet comes in last with zero competition barring a miracle.


After what Arthas pulled off, Thrall is looking primed to ride the WC fanbase to an upset over his main competition for second...


A two-and-done from the Villains Contest, Vergil is here to back up his sole win over... Ghaleon... and take home second in this match. He's the 'proven' contestant, but being borderline-to-outright fodder himself doesn't bode terribly well for him... especially if he benefited from Sephy anti-votes in the VC.

It's all about the battle for second today, with the villain of DMC3 measuring up against a protagonist from the ensemble cast of WC. According to the Series Contest, both series are roughly equal, but considering how bunk those stats are I'll go with my gut and say that WC is stronger. Add up that Thrall is about one of the only characters worth a damn from the series and I feel good about taking him here... but unlike Arthas, he doesn't have badass BOXART BAYBEE... instead a picture where I'm going to take a stab and say it's from the final cutscene of the Orc campaign in WC3 or something. In any case, it's not recognizable. Not that Thrall has a lot of recognizable pics... but his in-game face shot would do better than this. His in-game *sprite* would do better than this. The Orc on the RoC box, even if it's not him, would do better for him than all three. But he's got this, and while it's not fantastic it's hardly too discouraging... especially considering it still is pretty much unmistakably an orc.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 8:40:41 PM | message detail | #083
...or Shrek, who knows.

But I'm gonna stick with Thrall here. Picture aside, I believe he's more popular, and if he falters, the slight overlap that is here (um... Vergil/Ratchet...) should help more than hurt. It's hard to call, but I feel confident.

And if it doesn't work out, I'll just chew out Funk and his blind faith in the WC fanbase! :O

Karma Hunter's Vote: Vergil. I need more power!
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Ganondorf with 42%, Thrall with 26%, Vergil with 21%, Ratchet with 9%

Let's see how NOT overestimating the obvious winner works here... if that's what this is.

Upset Probability: 40%

DMC3's sold pretty damn well, especially with the special edition. Throw in that the characters are much more popular than the games, and that the reason for that is their character designs... well, Vergil is not only Dante's twin, but he may be underrated by going out against Sephiroth with a Nelo Angelo picture. He's certainly the most glamorous of anyone in the picture, and he kills in the pic factor today. Put this all together with Thrall not getting as expected support, and... well, you know the rest.


Transience’s Analysis

Vergil. Thrall. Vergil. Thrall. Vergil. Thrall.

I went back and forth on these guys for three weeks until brackets closed. I hate this match because I don't know what to think of either guy. let's start with Vergil. his performance in the villain contest is pretty mediocre - 21% on Sephiroth (which isn't really all that bad - I mean, Liquid Snake got 24%), and he couldn't even double some guy named Ghaleon. the highlight of his contest career is this match picture - - Ghaleon's face is just transcendent.

Thrall's far more of an unknown. apparently, he's some kind of quest-giver in World of Warcraft and a fairly prominent figure - well, as prominent as NPCs can get, anyway. Thrall doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would be universally popular, but no one is more devoted to their guys than the World of Warcraft community. plus, Arthas did much better than expected, which has made Thrall the trendy pick to take this match.

I have reservations about Thrall doing so well, though.. I wonder how numerous the Thrall fanbase actually is. I can see him getting 15-20%, but he's probably going to need more than that in order to beat Vergil. I'd put my money on him if I knew he would get rallied for, but as-is, I'm skeptical. plus, there's a chance that he completely bombs. Vergil's projected to beat Kerrigan 62-38, and while Thrall's probably stronger, I wonder by how much. I really don't know what to think here, but I'm taking the proven quantity over the guy who may end up blowing Vergil out or may end up flopping hard.

Vergil's high fodder
Thrall could end up anywhere
Ganondorf destroys

transience's prediction: Ganondorf with 46.88%, Vergil with 22.44%, Thrall with 20.55%, Ratchet with 10.13%

Guest’s Analysis - The Real Truth

Ah so I'm finally doing one of these. For those of you that don't know me (Which is probably a lot), I've been coming to Board 8 for about 3 years now, but I've never really participated in anything.

Alright, enough with the introduction.

So to start off, Ganondorf obviously takes first place. He shouldn't be receiving any SFF since two of the characters live on the PS2 and the other on the PC. He's also just strong regardless, so even if there were SFF, not many characters have a chance at beating him.

Who takes second then? Well lets see.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2007 8:41:14 PM | message detail | #084
Ratchet- Summer 2004 Contest
Chaos Division - 13 Seed

Chaos Round 1 --- Lost to (4) Dante, 14602 [19.72%] - 59437 [80.28%]

3 years ago and Dante is obviously stronger than Vergil, but to me, this is pretty much a strong indication of how well Ratchet will do in this match.

Thrall - Now here's a character that has never appeared in a contest. Many people have switched from saying Vergil to win, to saying Thrall will win, after Arthas performed "Well" in his match, where he actually managed to slightly beat out Diablo for 3rd place. Now I'm not sure exactly how popular Thrall is compared to Arthas, but I know that I'd at least heart the name Arthas before the contest started. Will Thrall be stronger than Arthas? I'm guessing not.

Vergil - Many DMC fans like Vergil more than they like Dante. Why? Because he's just that awesome. Vergil has appeared in one contest (The Villains contest) and did respectably before losing badly to Sephiroth.

Jenova Round 1 --- Defeated (5) Ghaleon, 41182 [64.45%] - 22713 [35.55%]
Jenova Semifinal --- Lost to (1) Sephiroth, 17291 [21.19%] - 64294 [78.81%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 14th Place [21.19%]

Now getting 21.19% may seem like complete garbage, but there's two things to take into account: 1. He was facing Sephiroth, who's the 3rd strongest character in these contests and 2. The picture he received looked nothing like him at all. People that love Devil May Cry 3, love Vergil and would vote for him over most characters.

So what does all this mean? Well in my opinion, Vergil is the second strongest here, but there's also the PS2 factor that he shares with Ratchet, which neither Ganon (Like it would matter) or Thrall has to worry about. Like I said though, people love Vergil and I think he'll come out alright.

My prediction?

Ganon with 43% - Vergil with 25.5% - Thrall with 19% - Ratchet with 12.5%

Crew Consensus: 5 have Ganon > Vergil, 3 have Ganon > Thrall. Up in the air, folks.
trannyscience | Posted 9/19/2007 9:45:37 PM | message detail | #085
dissent? awesome.

screw you warcraft
"war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu
The Real Truth | Posted 9/19/2007 9:50:41 PM | message detail | #086
Sorry about the typos, haven't had much sleep lately and I typed that up rather quickly.
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC
DpObliVion | Posted 9/19/2007 11:00:34 PM | message detail | #087
DpOblivion's Unofficial Ridiculously-Quick-Because-I-Just-Realized-It's-Almost-Midnight Analysis:

DpOblivion's bracket says: Ganondorf > Vergil

DpOblivion's prediction is: Ganondorf > Thrall

Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS
Lugia2 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:20:49 AM | message detail | #088
Guess what? We get, like, the fourth match in a week to be within 1000 votes. Who thinks it will last the entire day? Again?
VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!! Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much. Lugia2-1246-5250-1185
Tatl | Posted 9/20/2007 2:45:01 PM | message detail | #089
That's what I get for rushing my bracket...

*Has Ganondorf > Ratchet*
Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion!
Go Midna!
trannyscience | Posted 9/20/2007 4:22:06 PM | message detail | #090
not me!

lol late
"war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu
Mario Man53245 | Posted 9/20/2007 5:14:52 PM | message detail | #091
"Nothing helps a bad mood like spreading it around." - Calvin
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 6:40:00 PM | message detail | #092
Luigi................45.96% 62987
Mudkip............27.71% 37971
Pit.....................18.72% 25650
Tingle.................7.62% 10436
TOTAL VOTES..............137044

82.75% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly.
23.36% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly.

9.63% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd.
11.14% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st.

Crew bracket: 58/68

Luigi dominates, but Mudkip...does surprisingly well. Pit and Tingle come nowhere close to second.

Crew Prediction Challenge - HM gets his first point in this format!

Yoblazer - 4
Guest (Turtle, Kleenex, Who Cares?) - 3
Lopen - 3
Moltar - 2
Tran - 2
HM - 1
KH - 1
Ulti - 0

Crew Accuracy Challenge - HM gets a point for Luigi, Ulti gets a point for Mudkip, Lopen gets a point for Pit, and KH gets a kiss from Tingle.

HM - 13
Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2", Kleenex "3", Who Cares? "2") - 11
Yoblazer - 10
Lopen - 9
Moltar - 8
Ulti - 7
Tran - 6
KH - 5
Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Ganondorf/Ratchet/Thrall/Vergil - Bracket: Ganon > Vergil - Vote: Ganon (60/68)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:46:38 PM | message detail | #093
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 19 – Master Chief vs. PaRappa vs. Tommy Vercetti vs. Yuna

Moltar’s Analysis

Master Chief
Game/Series Known From: Halo
Seed in 2003: 3
Seed in 2004: 3
Seed in 2005: 1
Seed in 2006: 1
Lost in 2003 to Aeris in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Frog in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Crono in Round 3
Lost in 2006 to Sub-Zero in Round 1

Going to make up for last year.

Game/Series Known From: PaRappa the Rapper
Seed in 2002: 10
Lost in 2002 to Pikachu in Round 1

Another 2002 character returns to get beaten!

Game/Series Known From: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Seed in 2003: 3
Seed in 2004: 5
Seed in 2005: 6
Lost in 2003 to Mega Man in Round 3
Lost in 2004 to Zero in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Crono in Round 2

He beat the barriers.

Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy X
Seed in 2003: 9
Seed in 2005: 6
Seed in 2006: 1
Lost in 2003 to Knuckles in Round 1
Lost in 2005 to Ganondorf in Round 1
Lost in 2006 to Zelda in the Elite 8

Yuna in the Elite 8…man last year was crazy.

This is a semi-interesting match. Well, first we have to take PaRappa out of the equation, because he easily takes last.

Okay, now there’s MC, Tommy and Yuna. MC and Yuna are midcarders, while Tommy has slipped to low midcard. I mean, when it takes everything you got to beat Kefka, you know you’ve lost a step. Even worse, Tommy hasn’t been seen in 2 years, and is very likely to have fallen even further thanks to Vice City aging. He’s taking third place.

Now there’s MC and Yuna. This pair better get comfy, because they’ll be sticking together for a while. Now some may believe Yuna takes first over MC, since in a one on one match, Yuna would very likely win. However, Master Chief has a very nice advantage in this format.

Remember Marcus Fenix earlier, and how he won his fourpack even though he’s a dirty Xbox character? Well, Master Chief is a bit more popular than Fenix, and thanks to the format, will not suffer from anti-votes like he would usually. This leads to the Halo-nation being able to support Chief big time and have it actually matter. A lot of people are banking on this for Chief and taking him far in the Contest.

So yeah, Chief better win this and he better win it good. I CAN’T BELIEVE I’M BANKING ON XBOX CHARACTERS SO MUCH THIS CONTEST (but it’s paying off so far)!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: MC > Yuna > Tommy > PaRappa

Moltar’s Prediction is: MC: 38% - Yuna: 35% - Tommy: 18% - PaRappa: 9%

Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Vercetti vs Chief heads-up in 2003 would have been a *sick* match, but now we know too much. This match is one of the few that's pretty damn obvious. Vercetti and PaRappa don't have a chance in hell here, and I doubt Yuna > Chief is really up for debate either. I get the argument that Chief anti-votes should matter a lot less in a four-way poll like this, but Yuna is far enough ahead of him for that to not matter much. The only way Chief has a chance is if Yuna's 2005 number is legit, which it isn't.

And Heroic Mario is supporting the Chief this year. Nice knowing you, Chief.

Yuna [37.00%]
Master Chief [35.00%]
Vercetti [18.00%]
PaRappa [10.00%]

Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Master Chief – 35%
Yuna – 34%
Vercetti – 19%
PaRappa the Rappa – 11%

Now here is where all of the hype from the board seems to be going. I was on board with this one early, stayed on for a bit, but eventually abandoned ship when it became increasingly harder to picture the Chief going really far and the ever present reminder of his loss to Sub-Zero just last year. Of course, the Chief isn’t going to be “bomb,” at least based on my expectations for him.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:47:12 PM | message detail | #094
The biggest question in this match-up is whether or not Master Chief can outdo Yuna. These two are pretty much guaranteed to be moving on, but it’s a matter of deciding who does it pre-Halo 3. Even though Halo 3 won’t quite be out in time for this match, I think the hype for it is going to be at an all-time high that it won’t matter. Everyone, everywhere, is going to be seeing Master Chief -- grocery stores, fast food places, commercials, on cars (what’s up, Pontiac), etc.

With that kind of media blitz, something Twilight Princess cannot even attest to having, the boost should be there because people should be riding the Halo High. In a match with any huge favorites like Samus or Snake, Master Chief can steal a lot of “middle ground” votes, which should propel him up to just manage to squeak by Yuna.

Most probably have Yuna > Master Chief here, but I’m going the opposite because I don’t think Halo 3 releasing is what’s necessary for someone like Master Chief. He’s the kind of person who does better based on hype of his game rather than the actual release changing the minds of the people, or so I believe.

Besides, when you’ve got your absurdly huge cup of BELIEVE in one hand, and your Master Chief fries in another, chewing on a Master Chief wrapped Whopper, how in the world can you not vote for him? Especially when the alternative is a chick who tells “brother” to go “faster” and “higher” and speaks in ellipses! Do the right thing, folks!

Bracket: Master Chief > Yuna
Vote: Master Chief

Yoblazer’s Analysis

God damn you, Thrall, you're almost worse than Mudkip! My bracket is a disaster! Save me, Chief! Wait, you need a weapon? Dammit Chief, I have you winning three straight matches, and you barge in here without a weapon?! Here, I have uhh... an office pen, a plastic cup, and a GE Real Estate loan application. Get out there and kick some ass. And don't let that cackling summoner pull a fast one on you.

To say today's match is long overdue is an understatement. We've had a couple straight days of ASS matches, and it's about time that the often unpredictable but always exciting Master Chief takes center stage. Several bracket makers have taken him as their dark horse in the tournament, so they're even more thrilled (anxious?) to see their boy test these new contest waters. He certainly comes in as the favorite today.

Chief's competition is an eclectic bunch that manages to bridge the gap between kiddie mascots, M-rated badasses, and RPG hotties. I'm referring, of course, to PaRappa the Rapper, Tommy Vercetti, and Yuna. PaRappa is going to get his butt kicked, so there's really no need to waste time discussing him. Vercetti and Yuna, on the other hand, have raised a point of interest. While the overwhelming prediction for this match is Chief > Yuna, some predictors have argued that Vercetti can hurt Master Chief to the point where Yuna eeks past the Halo star.

Can it happen? Well, Yuna is the only Square (Square or Nintendo, for that matter) option, and I certainly expect Vercetti to affect Chief's percentage more than anyone else's. However, people are letting it all ride on Chief for a reason: he's the face of Halo, the face of the Xbox, and the face for a heavily concentrated, hardcore voting block of GameFAQs visitors. In this format, he'll be getting all the Halo love, but very, very little of the Halo/Xbox/Microsoft anti-votes. If you had to build a format specifically to aid Master Chief's chances, this would be it. Knowing this, I doubt Tommy Vercetti will be enough to slow him down on day freakin' one, but if he is, then god help Chief in his future matches, and god help all of our brackets.

Master Chief - 34%
Yuna - 31%
Tommy Vercetti - 23%
PaRappa - 12%
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:47:41 PM | message detail | #095
Lopen’s Analysis

Watch today's performance in awe, ladies and gentlemen. The wonder that is Master Chief in a multiway poll shall be put on display. We've all seen it before. Master Chief has flukish positions in the x-stats every year. Why? Well, I (and others) have always believed that it's because Master Chief has a contingent of voters that will vote him over almost anything. I've talked a lot about the hardcore vote, the fanbase devotion... that belief of devotion = strength in this contest comes to a head in the form of Master Chief.

So assuming Master Chief's core fanbase is about 20% (I think it could be higher) of this site... that means he all but gets a bye beyond all but the strongest opponents. But wait... there's more. One of Master Chief's limiting factors, the dreaded anti-vote... it's all but a non-factor here with this format. Who will the haters vote now? PaRappa? HAOOAHA.

But wait.. there's more. Master Chief... he has not reached full strength! But that is a story for another day, in round 2. He won't need full potential yet, not for these guys.

About these guys... since I suppose I should talk about them a little bit. Well, even without this format helping him, Master Chief would still be the favorite here. PaRappa is a jo-jo-j-j-joke *scratches a CD*. Tommy Vercetti... well, not exactly the paragon of power in these things. Struggling with Kefka? Come on, now. Yuna looks like she could be a threat to the Chief... you know, if you think the 2006 contest's female bracket is worth anything more than a grain of salt. Well, okay, maybe beyond that. Yuna vs Sub-Zero would be an interesting match... though I do take Sub-Zero in that one without too much stress after seeing him do that well against Auron. Even assuming Yuna beats Chief in a heads up match, though, this format is just too beautiful for Master Chief, and he won't have any problem offing her here.

But back to more important things...
Master Chief soda for the win!

Lopen's Prediction:
Master Chief – 41.44%
Yuna – 27.44%
Tommy Vercetti – 20.00%
PaRappa – 11.12%

Karma Hunter’s Analysis

I've been seeing more red in my bracket than I'd like lately... woo @ me being an "expert"

Master Chief

After yet ANOTHER year of being classically upset in a match where he was a "lock", Master Chief is back again to try and prove his worth on the cusp of Halo 3 in this format. If Chief can't make it here... people will never believe him in again. Seriously. I can see Tanner getting brackets over him.

Parappa the Rapper

It's all in the mind...


In contrast, Yuna is fresh off a phenomenal 2k6 run where she made the Elite Eight and did as well on Zelda as Aeris did. Rumblings of Zelda being overrated and her not being a 'fan-favorite' suitable for this format... that's saying something.

Tommy Vercetti

A has-been that never was (unless you're talking about the FFP Vercetti aw yeah), here to basically fill his role of fourth wheel. He shouldn't be able to have what it takes to upset MC anyway...

Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:48:17 PM | message detail | #096
All joking aside (knock on wood), MC and Yuna should be virtual locks to make it out of this round. The question, of course, is the order, and it's a hotly contested one. Does Yuna beat MC one-on-one? The smart money says yes. Does she beat him given the format? It's undeniably tougher... Yuna's never done particularly well in the FFX 'fan-favorite' polls, but those polls aren't as accurate as some would like to believe (TOO MANY ENTRANTS) and have the potential to skew strangely. More importantly, Yuna may simply be overrated by Zelda... but even if you want to give Zelda an absolute floor (like her 2k5 value or something) she still looks primed to give MC a fight. The idea is that MC has a disproportionately loyal fanbase that will carry him as far as the sun will shine... or something. Oh, and Halo 3 hype/release might have a little to do with it as the contest goes on.

Am I confident in Chief? No, I'm not an idiot. But I think he should be able to win this considering everything, though I am scared that his anti-votes won't be particularly diluted in *this* match. Yuna's really the only GameFAQs-friendly character here...'s hard to think of Yuna as crazy strong as she was last year. She could surprise, but I'll stick with MC.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Tommy Vercetti aw yeah
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Master Chief with 36%, Yuna with 31%, Tommy Vercetti with 20%, Parappa the Rapper with 13%

I've gotta get back on track sooner or later!

Upset Prediction: 50%

I think Yuna is being potentially underrated in the fan-favorite department, and have thought so ever since we saw her in 2k5. She *was* the lead in FFX-2, after all, and people actually like that game (no comment, haven't played it). Vercetti certainly has more of a "connection" in casual friendliness with MC aside from Yuna. And... it's Master Chief. Really, now.

Transience’s Analysis

Character Battle VI's most debated character finally gets his first match. Master Chief is a contest legend -- he of the craziest comebacks in history, the most hilarious flops in history, and pretty much everything inbetween. it's generally accepted that Master Chief has both a fanbase that will vote him over *everything* and an anti-fanbase that will anti-vote him for the same reasons. this format should both reward and remove those fanbases, so this *should* be the strongest Master Chief that we've ever seen. Halo always does great in multi-option polls and it just makes sense that he'll get ~20% just from that core audience.

so far, so-called "casual" characters have done great. Xbox characters, too. Marcus Fenix's insane day vote surge over Kefka is the greatest example of what we could see from Master Chief. heck, Master Chief might even have a better day vote because of that rabid fanbase of his come afterschool hours. it's really impossible to tell pre-match what he might be capable of. he might do something insane, or he might just flop. that's just how he rolls.

which brings us to this match. Master Chief is in his most vulnerable position here: one strong character, two relatively weak ones. Yuna's run last year was pretty fluke-y - she's never looked as strong as she did last year and she has no real reason to boost - but you still have to respect someone that impressed four matches in a row. Yuna doesn't strike me as having a particularly devoted/large fanbase, but she's definitely the strongest. the main question: does she have enough support to stop the Master Chief machine from taking first?
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:48:54 PM | message detail | #097
I think she does. I think Tommy Vercetti hurts the Chief more than he hurts Yuna, what with his "casual" appeal and all. I have no real basis for thinking this - they don't even share a console - but I think it will happen. Yuna isn't as popular as 2006 made her look, but she's good enough to hold off the pre-Halo 3 Chief with TV at her side.

Master Chief's scary
lawl I don't think so

transience's prediction: Yuna with 35.55%, Master Chief with 34.55%, Tommy Vercetti with 18.88%, Parappa with 11.02%

Guest’s Analysis - chocoboslayer

First, before I say anything else, this match has reminded me that it's been a long time since I've said that The Choco > "Lady" Ashe. Obviously, you know why I say this. >_>

Now, onto the match at hand. My first thought is simply this: Who in the blue holy Christ let PaRappa into this contest? I can think of a few characters that could've taken that spot and done much better with it. Wastes of space like PaRappa make me sad. VERY sad. If it gets more than 10% of the votes, I will...well, who knows what I'll do. As for Vercetti....He could do some the right spot. This, of course, is not it. If he was in...well, anywhere in Division 6, he could have made it a round or two, but here...he's pretty much guaranteed to get a solid third place.

This match comes down to Yuna and Master Chief. Yuna has the massive amount of Squeenix fans behind her, but Master Chief has the insane hype that Halo 3 has created. Now, you would think that that hype would be plenty enough to give Chief the victory, and if I were as much of a casual as I normally am, I would agree. However...there's one problem: It's just hype. Until the game actually comes out, and people actually play it, the hype won't be enough to give Chief first place. It'll be close, but not close enough.

The Choco's Bracket: Yuna > Chief
The Choco's Prediction: Yuna - 38.9%, Chief - 38.3%, Vercetti - 16.4%, PaRappass - 6.4%

The Choco's Vote: Yuna, of course. Do I even need to tell you this?

Crew Consensus: Tran and the Guest prevent this from being an all MC > Yuna sweep.
Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 8:50:50 PM | message detail | #098
1. hey moltar say byebye to the leaderboard :(
2. woo tranny
3. lol choco that's a pretty nice heroic yuna account you got there lol wate i mess up
Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:53:15 PM | message detail | #099
Even if I get tomorrow wrong, 2 points isn't going to knock me off of it.
Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
MC/PaRappa/Tommy/Yuna - Bracket: Chief > Yuna - Vote: Chief (64/72)
NClark128 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:54:04 PM | message detail | #100
Still taking any signups for guest analysts?
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