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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:18:32 PM | message detail | #001 |
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In a twist that no one on this board would have expected, I have
decided to do the unthinkable. I will, once again, host the Contest
Analysis Crew for the 6th Character Battle! Shocking, huh? Most of you guys know the drill by now, but for those who are new to this, here's a short explanation. The Contest Analysis Crew (or The Crew, or AC, whatever you want to call us) is a group of users who know how these Contests work. Our duty is to analyze each match and predict who will win each match and the percentages each character will get. Now, our record isn't perfect, but we've been more right than wrong, so that counts for something! Now it's time for the Introductions! Here are the regulars of The Crew for this Contest. Just let me pull out the old file cabinet and...ahh yes. Master Moltar - Founder of the Contest Analysis Crew - Has participated in each Contest since 2003 - Likes Ganondorf...almost too much Okay, that's one. Now, next is... UltimaterializerX - Member of The Crew since Spring 2004 - Winner of the Spring Contest in 2004 - He called it Two down, five to go! Next is... Heroic Mario - Man of 1000 usernames (now known as ZFS) - Man of 1000 favorite characters and games - Member of The Crew since Spring 2006 Then we have... Yoblazer - Member of The Crew since Spring 2006 - Ended on the leaderboard in 2004 twice and 2005 - Has some sort of Ariel obsession Little over half way there... Lopen - Member of The Crew since Spring 2006 - Has rightfully earned the nickname "Hit or Miss" - Loves any character with white hair or a green suit Only a few more... Karma Hunter - Member of The Crew since Summer 2006 - He is so smart. S-M-R-T - ___________ is so screwed. One more left! Transience - Warning! Challenger approaching! - Goes by the name "trannyscience" - Better not mess up or he's outta here! Oh, and one more thing. Returning for this Contest will be the ever-so-popular Guest spot! That's right, if you sign up for it, then you can write an analysis for the Crew! Currently, sign-ups for the Round 1 are filled, but Round 2 should open up soon. Here is who we have for the upcoming matches. Crono/Sam/Simon/Raiden - Lady Ashe HK-47/Lloyd/Jak/Zero - Who Cares? Luigi/Mudkip/Pit/Tingle - LeonhartFour Ganondorf/Ratchet/Thrall/Vergil - The Real Truth MC/PaRappa/Tommy V./Yuna - chocoboslayer Alucard/Liquid/Ness/Zidane - Draco1214 Ammy/Dante/Mac/Matt - RichardSmoker Ada/Balthier/Frank/Jade - PokemonPatriarch Isaac/Pikachu/Serge/Tidus - Xcarvengerx Leon/Ridley/Spyro/Vivi - Luis_Sera89 Kirby/L-Block/Laharl/Nathan - greatone10 DK/Kratos/Marth/Prince of all Cosmos - SensiShadeSlaye Nightmare/Rayman/Snake/Vyse - leadrboardsteve Haseo/Riku/Roxas/Ryu H. - satai_delenn Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - War13104 Albert/Daxter/Lara/Sora - GrapefruitKing Duke/Ike/Gordon/Guybrush - Biolizard28 Sonic/Sub-Zero/Prince of Persia/Joe - DaruniaTheGoron --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Tails/The Boss/Vincent/Zelda - Bracket: Vincent > Zelda - Vote: The Boss (44/52) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:19:53 PM | message detail | #002 |
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Division 4: Round 1 - Match 15 – Crono vs. Sam Fisher vs. Simon Belmont vs. Raiden Moltar’s Analysis Crono Game/Series Known From: Chrono Trigger Seed in 2002: 5 Seed in 2003: 4 Seed in 2004: 3 Seed in 2005: 2 Seed in 2006: 1 Lost in 2002 to Mario in the Final 4 Lost in 2003 to Mario in the Elite 8 Lost in 2004 to Link in the Elite 8 Lost in 2005 to Mario in the Finals Lost in 2006 to Sonic in the Elite 8 Red-headed wonder returns. Sam Game/Series Known From: Splinter Cell Seed in 2003: 4 Seed in 2004: 7 Seed in 2005: 5 Lost in 2003 to Magus in Round 1 Lost in 2004 to Samus in Round 2 Lost in 2005 to Donkey Kong in Round 1 Sam’s back to get his butt kicked again. Simon Game/Series Known From: Castlevania Seed in 2002: 12 Lost in 2002 to Crono in Round 1 Funny how he lost to Crono in 2002, and now is in the same group as him! Raiden Game/Series Known From: Metal Gear Solid Seed in 2003: 16 Lost in 2003 to Solid Snake in Round 1 *does naked cartwheels of joy* Is that some Noble Nine in my fourpack? Well, since that’s the case, we can safely say that Crono will dominate this group. So let’s get to the hotly debated battle for the second spot between… Wait, what’s this? There is no hotly debated battle for the second spot? WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?! Even though Raiden looked bad in 2003 (and can you blame him?) he should have no trouble being stronger than Sam Fisher and Simon Belmont. Heck, I don’t even need to bring up the whole “MGS characters are doing good in this format” thing. So, nothing too difficult here, so let’s pad my analysis with a humorous story or something! …Wait, I can’t do that either? What do you mean I already had one of those just 2 matches ago? Well, looks like I’m in trouble here. So, what else is there to say about this one… … Okay, after thinking about this for 5 hours, I’ve got nothing! Crono in a easy first, Raiden a good distance behind, and Sam and Simon battle it out for third. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono > Raiden > Sam > Simon Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 44% - Raiden: 25% - Sam: 17% - Simon: 14% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis After a FIVE YEAR BREAK, Simon Belmont returns to the field. Good grief. And he's thrown right into a rematch; in 2002, he lost in the first round to Crono. The more things change... Crono taking first place here is a forgone conclusion, as is Fisher taking last place. As per the norm, the fight comes down to second place. People have been coming up with wild ranges for Raiden for a good two years now, and we finally get to see what he's made of. I personally think he'll be on the lower end of everyone's expectations, and I actually have Belmont pulling the upset. I have no real backing behind this; just a gut instinct and a belief that most of GameFAQs still hates Raiden. And I should note that Raiden is one of my favorite characters. I just have no faith in this so-called closet strength of his, but maybe I'm wrong. Who knows. Ulti's Prediction Crono [52.00%] Simon Belmont [21.00%] Raiden [20.00%] Sam Fisher [7.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Crono -- 50% Raiden -- 25% Sam Fisher -- 14% Simon Belmont -- 11% Aww yeah the return of Raiden. This is one guy who has been long overdue to get back into a contest to make up for the lousy match against Snake. I’m not entirely sure how this format will lend itself to him, but he’s looking to do well for himself regardless. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:20:23 PM | message detail | #003 |
| This is a really easy match for him, too. I’ve
heard some rumblings about the possibility of Simon somehow managing to
get second, but I don’t see it. Not even close. Even if Raiden doesn’t
end up being a good deal stronger than every non-Snake MGS character
(I’d be shocked), he still would be more than capable of advancing
beyond Simon Belmont of all characters. Fisher is guaranteed to be a
non-factor here -- who calls Fisher one of their all-time favorites? --
and Simon will end up getting votes from a few of the Castlevania
faithful, so he shouldn’t have too much problem pulling a distant third. That leaves Raiden to take both a casual and hardcore MGS vote. Raiden’s got plenty of fans, there’s no question there. To add to an existing fanbase from MGS2, he’s had the redesign in MGS4 to alleviate some of his hatred from those who found him too “feminine” in MGS2. It should land him a spot that is safely ahead of Simon while not quite up to snuff with Crono. Speaking of which, this should be a good opportunity to see how Crono performs in this format. It’s not crucial that he go out and impress or anything, but should he not fare too well here, you can bet the Vincent > Crono will hit full speed really quick. I’m confident in the spiky-headed dude, though. He may not be as relevant to gaming as he used to be, especially with each passing generation, but he’s still awesome. Can’t help but like the guy. Bracket: Crono > Raiden Vote: Raiden Yoblazer’s Analysis Going into today's match, I had prematurely labeled Sam Fisher's chances of upsetting Raiden as the big story. Well, **** that ****. Sam can try if he wants, and judging by Marcus Fenix's good performance and his iconic picture, he may actually come close, but the possible-yet-unlikely battle for second place has now been overshadowed. Vincent Valentine, who is currently kicking Zelda's ass, has already begun staring across the field towards Crono and that luminous Noble 9 aura he emanates. His weapon is drawn (lol, I'm not even sure what weapon Vincent uses), Crono, and all eyes are on you. Simply put: if Crono doesn't mount a decent enough performance today, it will be the first time in contest history where a Noble 9er goes into a match as a clear underdog. Yes, Vincent was that good last year. Yes, he looks that good today. And yes, with his disappointing performance last year, Frog and Magus flopping all over the place in their matches, and the highest votals we've ever seen, Crono looks like he's in some serious danger. I feel he has to shoot for at least the high 40's today, and even though his competition looks relatively weak, he might have to really fight for it. Simon Belmont won't do much, but Raiden might surprise some people, as Metal Gear Solid characters have done without fail so far. Sam Fisher, like Marcus Fenix and Chiefy Weefy, may be independent enough to secure his own decent block of votes as well. Should be a fun day, if not for an exciting match, then at least for some interesting speculation. Crono - 45% Raiden - 22% Sam Fisher - 18% Simon Belmont - 15% Lopen’s Analysis Okay, as is pretty common, first place in this match is not in dispute. And being a noble niner, I think that makes Crono a lock for second place. Right, right? |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:20:53 PM | message detail | #004 |
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... fine. Raiden can't win this match. But I do think he'll make a
strong showing and take second with ease. We've seen how well MGS
characters have been doing, and I don't think Raiden will be any
exception. The emergence of ninja Raiden in the picture... it's
interesting... does it hurt Raiden's recognizability or help him by
being badass? Okay, well it definitely helps him over the infamous
melting art that MGS characters so love to get, since he's not
recognizable in those anyway. But really, most/all of the voting base
that Raiden would be able to count on should recognize him. Whether by
seeing one of the bajillion MGS4 trailers or just because he looks
close enough to the normal one. Raiden also doesn't have any anti-votes to worry about in this format, which is always good, even if I do think the hate has gone way down. But yes, being the star of Metal Gear Solid 2, one of the more popular games on GameFAQs, is no joke. I've been preaching it for years... Raiden's got some strength in him, enough to beat Sam Fisher and Simon Belmont with ease. Also, the MGS4 trailers and the format can only can only help him here. Meanwhile, I don't expect Crono to live up to expectations in this match. For one because Simon Belmont and Raiden both scream to me "devoted fanbase," for two because... I don't expect Crono to do so well in this format, relatively, anyway. I do think he has a core fanbase... but seeing so many Squareheads talk about "character development" and "deepness" makes me think that maybe a decently sized contingent of his voting base will abandon him given many opponents. Maybe it's the fact that he's the NNer I seem to love to root against, or maybe it's just because Magus flopped so hard I can't get that out of my mind, but I just think it'll happen. Prove me wrong, Crono. Lopen's Prediction Crono - 40.03% Raiden - 26.61% Simon Belmont - 19.06% (sorry man, you deserve more mention than I gave you in this!) Sam Fisher - 15.30% (you do not, Mr. "I elbow things in the face repeatedly") Karma Hunter’s Analysis Crono The mute protagonist of the site's most beloved old-school RPG returns. Will he disappoint this year? If Vincent is any indication, he's got a REALLY tall order ahead of him... Sam Fisher After a much welcome hiatus, Sam Fisher is back with yet another middlingly well-received game under his belt. I doubt this guy's strength ever changes. Simon Belmont Not seen since 2002, Simon Belmont comes back to prove that he can do better than the pitiful showing he gave that year. Unfortunately... it's just been that much longer since he's had a new game, and if he got "old-school SFFed" by Crono... well, look at who's in the match with him. Raiden The victorious parade of MGS characters continues with the biggest wildcard of them all! Raiden is the only one of 'em in this contest we haven't had *anything* resembling a read on, thanks to his SFF crushing at the hands of his Noble forerunner, Solid Snake. Today Raiden hate has (seemingly?) died down, he's wicked badass in the MGS4 trailers as a Cyborg Ninja redux (but seriously Kojima, you don't have to put one in all your games), and seeing how MGS has done this contest it's hard to not call him the favorite to come in second here. And that's where we come in. Crono has first locked up, but we've got a bit of a battle for that second spot. Fisher has his fans, but aside from the loyalty issues to think about... they're just not that large in number, really. I'd take anyone in this pack over him one-on-one, and that doesn't bode good things for him. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:21:28 PM | message detail | #005 |
| Belmont is gonna have to rely on casual appeal
here, something that his "iconic" status in the CV series has over
Crono here on this site. It's a very nebulous idea, and conditions
would have to be PERFECT for him to pull this thing off ( i.e. Phoenix
winning his match perfect). I'm not banking on that, because I'm not a
Simon fanboy And then there's Raiden. On the one hand the hate has *really* died down for him, in large part because of his badass appearance in the MGS4 trailers. But by that same token, many have suggested that his picture is unrecognizable and will hurt him. Honestly... I can't believe that, doubly so because I've ONLY heard it from non-MGS fans who weren't gonna vote for the guy anyway. This picture distances all the ill will he received from MGS2, and it can only mean good things for him. As I've said many times before... if Raiden can't pull this off, there's only one reason... he's weak. ...seeing as how he's beating Zero though, I think you know the score for this match !! Karma Hunter's Vote: Raiden. ZERO MUST DIE Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Crono with 45%, Raiden with 26%, Simon Belmont with 18%, Sam Fisher with 11% ...man, it feels weird to give such a Lopen-esque figure for Raiden... then again, I wouldn't be surprised for him to pick the guy over Crono here, so heh... Upset Probability: 0% NO CHANCE TO LOSE ZERO IS GOING DOWN FORGET EVERYTHING ELSE I WROTE CAPS LOCK = CRUISE CONTROL FOR CHICKS Transience’s Analysis there's an obvious winner in this match, and for once, all eyes are on him. Chrono Trigger characters have been the single most disappointing characters in this contest so far. Frog needed a last-second rally in order to beat Axel, while Magus could barely manage 30% against three characters that hang out around the fodder line. Crono needs to, at the very least, do better than Vincent did yesterday, because it's looking more and more like Vincent is the favourite to take second behind Link going into that match. the rest of this match is pretty boring. Raiden in all likelihood takes second, and his performance doesn't really matter much since he almost definitely takes third to Zero next round. Simon Belmont is a guy that I love, but I can't see him doing too well here, not with that picture. Sam Fisher will get his core votes, but that shouldn't put him close to Raiden. Raiden might impress here considering how well MGS characters have done thus far, but he doesn't seem like much of a "fan-favourite" to me and I wonder if that MGS4 picture will hurt him more than it helps him. he doesn't have the most unique name in the world, after all. but this match is all about Crono. he's probably the only NN guy that fails to break 50%, but how low will he go? come on Crono, show that you're not washed up. Crono's in trouble needs to kick some ass today or Vincent might win transience's prediction: Crono with 43.33%, Raiden with 25.21%, Sam Fisher with 17.55%, Simon Belmont with 13.91% Guest’s Analysis - Lady Ashe It's finally here folks, the match you've all been waiting for! Forget about Vincent; we all knew he was a lock anyway, and him doing this well doesn't really prove much. Tomorrow's match is infinitely more significant, as it pretty much decides on what may well be the two most important results of the contest, in the form of Crono vs. Vincent and Zero vs. Raiden. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:21:55 PM | message detail | #006 |
| Now, some of you are probably crying out right now
"How is Zero vs. Raiden an important match?!" Well, it isn't, other
than the fact that it will get BT to shut the bloody hell up. And
really, isn't all that we can ask for out of a contest? I think so.
Almost as important though, is Crono vs. Vincent. Not only because it
is worth a pretty nifty 8 points, but also because it would mark the
end of the Noble Nine in the eyes of many. Sure, you can blame the
format all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that a member of
the Noble Nine allowed themselves to be defeated by that of a character
outside the illustrious group. So, we now know why exactly this match matters. How will the percentages turn out? It's pretty obvious that the two that advance will be Crono and Raiden, in that order, but it's slightly less obvious how dominant they will be over the other two. Crono has been dropping recently due to his game's initial release having been almost a full generation of GameFAQs users (13 years) ago. Combine this with his picture advantage supposedly being taken away a bit by Raiden, and it's certainly possible that he'll disappoint. On the other hand, Raiden is an enigma. He can quite literally be anywhere. He could be weaker than Soma, or he could be hanging up there with Vincent and friends. (Not that I'm saying he is, because he clearly isn't. I'm just pointing out that we don't know anything about where he ranks on the popularity charts other than the obvious "Lower than Snake") Where do I think Raiden will be? He'll obviously be the strongest non-Snake character from the series, but that isn't saying too much. Personally, and I know I'm going to get insulted for this, I'm pegging him a bit below Dante in strength. He is the main character of a Metal Gear Solid game, and no matter how much hate he may get at times, nothing other than Solid ****ing Snake can take that away from him. Alright, so we've got Raiden pegged slightly below Dante in strength, and 2k7 Crono should also be a bit below 2k6 Crono due to his continued fall from grace. Pitting Dante 2k5 against Crono 2k6 has Crono winning with 57.06%. Sam and Simon aren't exactly powerhouses, so I'll give them 28% to share, leaving us with 72% to play around with for the big two. Toss the previously calculated value in there, and Crono should get a decent 41.08%. Give the rest of the 72% to Raiden, and you've got your percentages for the top two. For the other two, there isn't all that much to be said. If I wanted to be silly, I could argue for one getting over the other based on either Konami or Stealth SFF, but I'm not quite in the mood for that. I say Simon gets the "old school" vote in order to propel him above Sam, but 3rd place could go either way and I honestly couldn't care less. What I do care about is what my predicted numbers will mean for the two matches I mentioned earlier. If one were to assume that Crono and Vincent are even, the numbers I've come up with would result in Zelda beating Raiden with 52.72% in a 1v1 match. Even if you account for a possible Zelda underperformance due to the format, this still makes Zelda look a bit too weak, which obviously supports the argument that Vincent is stronger than Crono. Unfortunately, similar conjecture isn't possible yet for Raiden vs. Zero until after Zero's match on Tuesday, so I'll just say Raiden > Zero and leave the drawing of conclusions to whoever has the guest analysis slot for that match. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 8:23:01 PM | message detail | #007 |
| Really though, those matches are well off into the
future. All that matters is the now, and the now is going to be Raiden
making Crono look like crap, despite his abomination of a match
picture. Seriously, how the hell is this - http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb6/cb6-15.jpg
- supposed to help Raiden? He looks terrible. Give me overly feminine
looking men over generic (and ugly) badasses any day of the week! Crono with 41.08% Raiden with 30.92% Simon Belmont with 14.01% Sam Fisher with 13.99% …The sad thing is, I would almost be willing to bet that Lopen has a higher prediction for the Thundering Cartwheel Alchemist than I do. <_< Crew Consensus: Crono > Raiden for most of us, but Ulti's feeling dangerous with Crono > Simon. |
| Logicblade | Posted 9/16/2007 8:24:01 PM | message detail | #008 |
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Moltar and Ganon are lesbians ITT --- www.thefootballpalace.com GFX users needed. |
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/16/2007 8:25:20 PM | message detail | #009 |
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lopen more like lopowned ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| th3l3fty | Posted 9/16/2007 8:25:20 PM | message detail | #010 |
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GO ULTI --- Knight of the Cross of Sir Chris' Court I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/16/2007 8:26:08 PM | message detail | #011 |
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Tagging this. --- Currently Playing: Persona 3 |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/16/2007 8:30:50 PM | message detail | #012 |
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I have Raiden upsetting Zero, personally. I've picked plenty of upsets this contest; I'm bound to get one of them right. --- September 29th: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=38262325 |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/16/2007 8:34:56 PM | message detail | #013 |
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Oh yeah, new topic. DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis: Yup, another mistake, making it eight of the last nine where I've failed to get full points. This match isn't much of a confidence builder either, even if I do have the popular pick. This match just screams toss-up for 2nd place. Of course Crono has 1st place easily, but then there's a battle between Splinter Cell's Sam Fisher, Castlevania's Simon Belmont, and Metal Gear Solid's Raiden. Sam Fisher is the only lead character out of the three, so that could be an advantage, however he is from the least popular series of the three, which is his disadvantage. Raiden is from the most popular series, but his role is less than his opponents (though I may be wrong, as I admit I'm not all that familiar with MGS). Simon Belmont seems to be in the middle, with a pretty popular series and a large, though not lead, role (again, may be wrong, apologies if I am). And all three have questionable contest strength. As you can probably figure from the first paragraph, I have Raiden coming in second, with the popularity of Metal Gear Solid being the deciding factor, and I gave MGS quite a bit of credit in my bracket-making (hey, I got Cloud > Ocelot > Jill). It wouldn't really surprise me too much if one of the other two win, but it's about damn time I turn things around. DpOblivion's bracket says: Crono > Raiden DpOblivion's prediction is: Crono > Raiden Confidence Rating: 60% Crono - 44% Raiden - 21% Simon Belmont - 19% Sam Fisher - 16% --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket LETS GO METS |
| Undeniable | Posted 9/16/2007 8:36:05 PM | message detail | #014 |
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BELMONT FOR LIFE --- "Blacker then a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than hell itself.. That is coffee." - Godot, Phoenix Wright 3 |
| chocoboslayer | Posted 9/16/2007 9:09:29 PM | message detail | #015 |
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Um...where do I send my write-up to? I don't remember. --- PotD's OFFICIAL King of Games! The Choco. The Cream of Yuna Fanboyism. |
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/16/2007 9:11:48 PM | message detail | #016 |
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MasterMoltar@Gmail.Com ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/16/2007 9:14:36 PM | message detail | #017 |
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Tag --- Finally a damn bracket! |
| Who Cares? | Posted 9/16/2007 11:25:46 PM | message detail | #018 |
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Did you get my writeup Moltar? Just sent it. --- Current Points: 46 Maximum Possible Points: 758/768 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 11:32:17 PM | message detail | #019 |
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Shoot, I forgot to put my e-mail in the title. And yes, I got it. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Crono/Raiden/Sam/Simon - Bracket: Crono > Raiden - Vote: Raiden (48/56) |
| transience | Posted 9/16/2007 11:39:01 PM | message detail | #020 |
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in your profile, perhaps? that's where I originally looked. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2007 11:58:45 PM | message detail | #021 |
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I'd honestly rather not put in there. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Crono/Raiden/Sam/Simon - Bracket: Crono > Raiden - Vote: Raiden (48/56) |
| Tatl | Posted 9/17/2007 12:56:44 AM | message detail | #022 |
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Tag --- Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion! Go Midna! |
| AndrewWarner | Posted 9/17/2007 1:39:14 AM | message detail | #023 |
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Tag :) --- "You see him there - a man snared by destiny, a lonely figure with his light dimmed behind the glory of his son." - Dune |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 1:46:10 AM | message detail | #024 |
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looks like board 8 as well as the analysis crew could be in for a shocker tonight. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 2:33:07 AM | message detail | #025 |
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Raiden's takin the casual vote tomorrow! Watch for it! You can still get 26%, man! --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 2:35:27 AM | message detail | #026 |
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And uh.. feels weird to have my Raiden % not dwarfing the most of the
crew's. Except for that crazy Ashe. Well I commend your fanboyism...
Raiden > Zero, you'd better believe it! --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| FantasyFreak999 | Posted 9/17/2007 11:14:05 AM | message detail | #027 |
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Tagging --- "Run, run, or you'll be well done!" ~Kefka, Final Fantasy 6~ |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 9/17/2007 11:20:55 AM | message detail | #028 |
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Banjo vs. Captain Falcon vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wario First Place +8 Mo +7 HM +6 tran +5 KH +4 Yo +3 Lo +2 Ulti +1 Guest Second Place +8 Yo +7 Ulti +6 KH +5 Lo +4 Mo +3 tran +2 HM +1 Guest Big Boss vs. Mario vs. Pac-Man vs. Wander First Place +8 Mo +7 Lo +6 Guest +5 Yo +4 tran +3 Ulti +2 KH +1 HM Second Place +8 Lo +7 Ulti +6 KH (tie) +6 Mo (tie) +4 tran +3 Yo +2 HM +0 Guest Bomberman vs. Crash Bandicoot vs. Phoenix Wright vs. Magus First Place +8 Guest +7 Mo +6 tran +5 Lo +4 HM +3 Yo +2 KH +1 Ulti Second Place +8 Guest +7 Mo +6 Yo +5 HM +4 tran +3 KH +0 Lo +0 Ulti Agent J vs. Piece of **** vs. Link vs. Miles Edgeworth First Place +8 tran +7 Guest (tie) +7 Mo (tie) +5 KH (tie) +5 Yo (tie) +3 Ulti +2 HM +1 Lo Second Place +8 tran +7 Ulti +0 Guest +0 HM +0 KH +0 Lo +0 Mo +0 Yo Miles "Tails" Prower vs. The Boss vs. Vincent Valentine vs. Zelda First Place +8 Ulti +7 HM +6 Mo (tie) +6 Yo (tie) +4 Lo +3 KH +2 Guest +1 tran Second Place +8 HM (tie) +8 KH (tie) +8 Mo (tie) +5 Lo +4 Ulti (tie) +4 Yo (tie) +2 tran +1 Guest Overall Rankings 1. Master Moltar (153) 2. Yoblazer33 (125) 3. transience (123) 4. Board 8 (116) 5. Karma Hunter (112) 6. Lopen (111) 7. Heroic Mario (106) 8. UltimaterializerX (87) Moltar's running away with it. After him! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 6:24:13 PM | message detail | #029 |
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Miles 'Tails' Prower........15.6% 22287 The Boss.....................15.84% 22633 Vincent Valentine.......38.68% 55265 Zelda...........................29.88% 42692 TOTAL VOTES........................142877 31.05% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly. 49.78% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly. 31.38% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd. 32.58% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st. Vincent easily takes care of Zelda, and the battle for 3rd is close, with The Boss squeaking out the victory. Crew Prediction Challenge - Moltar is the closest here. Yoblazer - 3 Lopen - 3 Guest (Turtle, Kleenex) - 2 Moltar - 2 Tran - 1 KH - 1 Ulti - 0 HM - 0 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Ulti gets the point for Vincent, Lopen gets the point for Zelda, Moltar gets the point for Tails and Moltar and HM get a point for The Boss Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2", Kleenex "3") - 9 Yoblazer - 9 HM - 9 Moltar - 8 Lopen - 7 Tran - 6 Ulti - 5 KH - 4 --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Crono/Raiden/Sam/Simon - Bracket: Crono > Raiden - Vote: Raiden (48/56) |
| heroic tranny | Posted 9/17/2007 6:26:08 PM | message detail | #030 |
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hey, I lost a point! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=37966608&message=419827660 --- xyzzy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 6:26:55 PM | message detail | #031 |
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Man, that guest guy in the Phoenix match sure knew what he was talking about. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 42/56; Oracle - 38th |
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/17/2007 6:27:55 PM | message detail | #032 |
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Pfft, Raiden is barely even in the top five MGS characters. To be
honest, I had some crazily high prediction for Midna too. I just want
some new characters that are actually worth a damn. ;x ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 6:29:48 PM | message detail | #033 |
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By barely you mean 1st. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 42/56; Oracle - 38th |
| Who Cares? | Posted 9/17/2007 7:46:49 PM | message detail | #034 |
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Hey Moltar, I just re-sent my guest writeup. Made a few tweaks to the original writeup I first sent you. --- Current Points: 46 Maximum Possible Points: 758/768 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 9:14:04 PM | message detail | #035 |
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Well Ashe, to be fair Mewtwo impressed, and Meta Knight will be looking pretty damn good after Brawl comes out. TuRtLe ~~~ 44/56 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Raiden BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:20:34 PM | message detail | #036 |
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Division 4: Round 1 - Match 16 – HK-47 vs. Lloyd Irving vs. Jak vs. Zero Moltar’s Analysis HK-47 Game/Series Known From: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Seed in 2004: 11 Lost in 2004 to Sora in Round 1 One of my faves from the old Xbox RPG. Lloyd Game/Series Known From: Tales of Symphonia Seed in 2005: 2 Lost in 2005 to Zero in Round 2 He’s the one that’s not Kratos or Zelos or Sheena. Jak Game/Series Known From: Jak and Daxter Seed in 2004: 11 Lost in 2004 to Ness in Round 1 Jakpack Zero Game/Series Known From: Mega Man X Seed in 2003: 7 Seed in 2004: 4 Seed in 2005: 3 Seed in 2006: 7 Lost in 2003 to Sonic in Round 2 Lost in 2004 to Mega Man in Round 3 Lost in 2005 to Mario in Round 3 Lost in 2006 to Luigi in Round 1 2005 letdown? Magus. 2006 letdown? Zero. And so Division 4 ends with a tough match. First place is all but decided already. Zero shouldn’t have any trouble there. It’s the battle for #2 that’s a three-way tussle. First there’s Lloyd from ToS. He did pretty poorly against Zero back in 2005, and ToS is 0-2 so far in this Contest. Kratos did okay, but Zelos bombed pretty hard. Lloyd isn’t even as much as a favorite among ToS fans, though he does get the most screentime. He shouldn’t be as strong as Kratos, but he’ll be above Zelos. Then we have Jak. He’s mostly remembered for losing to Ness in a very hotly debated match. Honestly, I’m not sure how I would rank him in a format like this. The closest similarity I can see right now is Crash, who, in a four-pack similar to this (1 midcarder vs. 3 others fighting for third), didn’t do too bad for himself. He isn’t as much of an icon as Crash, but he is more “cool” and “hip”. We all know how much the kids of today like that! Lastly, there’s HK-47. Another previous one-timer. In 2004, he was beaten easily by Sora. Even so, KOTOR did do pretty well for itself in the Games Contest, and since then he has had KOTOR 2 (which is a bit old at this point). Still, of the three other #2 hopefuls, he’s the one I see with the strongest fanbase. So who gets 2nd? My bracket says HK-47. I’ve pretty much given up all hope on Lloyd, thanks to Tales’s less-than-impressive performances so far. Jak still has a good shot, especially if he can rake in the casual vote, but I just don’t think he’ll beat out HK’s fans. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Zero > HK-47 > Jak > Lloyd Moltar’s Prediction is: Zero: 41% - HK-47: 25% - Jak: 23% - Lloyd: 19% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis Outside of Zero taking first place, this match is entirely up in the air and anyone could take second place. HK-47 and Tales of Symphonia both have rabid fanbases, and Jak is the only modern platformer character that has shown *any* sign of strength in these things. Daxter got into this contest over Clank, for instance. I actually think Jak will take second place by default, not due to strength so much. As much as HK's fans love him, they're a very small bunch and have grown less of a voice since we last saw him in 2004. And though Lloyd comes from a widely popular title, ToS fans hate Lloyd. He's a complete idiot. Which leaves Jak the last one standing. He's not widely popular, but he's not hated either. He should have just enough in the tank to pull this one out. Ulti's Prediction: Zero [47.00%] Jak [23.00%] HK-47 [16.00%] Lloyd [14.00%] |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:21:00 PM | message detail | #037 |
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Heroic Mario’s Analysis Zero -- 39% HK-47 -- 23% Lloyd Irving -- 20% Jak -- 18% Whew. This match is something else. You have Zero, of course, coming in first place, but not dominating the poll. Then you have HK-47 and Lloyd pulling from their dedicated RPG fanbases, and finally you have a close-but-not-quite there performance from Jak. You could pick any one of the three characters here and it wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibility. But I went with HK-47. My thinking here is pretty simple: HK-47 has a devoted group of fans from a rather popular RPG in KOTOR. The combination of being extremely well-liked within his game alongside said game having actual popularity -- not being “cult” -- is the key here. Almost everyone who has played KOTOR loves HK-47. That’s worth something, more than some might give credit. Many people want to cite the Tales series having a decently sized dedicated fanbase on this site, and while there is an argument to be made there, I’m skeptical as to how many of them are going to be supporting Lloyd, who isn’t all that liked within his game. As the main character, he can’t even pull in a second-in-command among fans, which doesn’t tend to invoke a lot of confidence. That isn’t to say he won’t get support, because he most certainly will, but I’m not expecting him to get the full backing of Tales fans. Jak is something of a wildcard here, and while he’s probably more popular than Lloyd, I’m just not sure how someone like him is going to do in this sort of environment. There are people who like the Jak series, and even like Jak the character, but how far does that extend? How many call Jak one of their favorites? Zero in the poll -- both platforming characters -- makes you wonder, too. He’ll do well, for sure, but I think he’s going to be bringing up the rear on this one. Bracket: Zero > HK-47 Vote: Jak Yoblazer’s Analysis Yet another highly debated match; is this contest great or what? We've seen 15 different matches so far, and most of these have had a relatively clear winner with a debated battle for second place among two other characters. This one is a bit unique in that the battle for second place is a wide-open crapshoot between all three characters. The clear winner today is Zero. The battlers for second place are HK-47, Jak, and Lloyd Irving, and each have some compelling arguments for and against them. Among these three relatively sad saps, the slight favorite is Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia. Interestingly enough, Lloyd faced Zero two years ago and got really owned. I mean less-than-27% owned. As the star of an RPG loved and hyped by the board, he was seen as a huge disappointment. Now, two years (I expect his strength to have decreased a bit) and two extra competitors later, you'd expect Lloyd to score much lower than his already pathetic percentage from 2005. Earlier in the contest, Zelos bombed completely and the stronger Kratos Aurion put up 21% against (what I'm wildly guessing to be) comparable competition, so I'll give Lloyd 20% as his absolute ceiling. Now, will that be enough to inch past his two challengers? Let's see... |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:21:39 PM | message detail | #038 |
| Next in line is the fresh and casual PS2 platform
star, Jak. You'll all remember him from his handful of well-liked PS2
Jak series and for getting his ass kicked by Ness and making me look
like a complete moron in 2004. I regard it as one of my most bungled
matches ever, and three years later, I still want to see you burn in
hell, stupid Jak. Following Crash Bandicoot's surprisingly good
performance against Phoenix Wright and Bomberman, I've heard many
people waxing confident in Jak's chances. He may very well perform
better than I originally thought, but I still doubt he's got this over
two RPG characters with more solid fanbases. He's simply too casual and
not nearly as established or iconic a figure as Crash, so I'm expecting
a fourth place finish for him, albeit a close one. You failed me all
those years ago, now you ask for a second chance? HAHAHAHAHA. Finally, we have my personal pick for the next round, my personal endorsed character for the match, and one of my very own very very personal most beloved characters evar, HK-47. There are many reasons I picked HK today, not the least of which being fanboyism. But really, my friends, is that such a crime? In a wide open match in a never-before-seen format, why not take the character you love if he has a realistic shot? That's what I did, and as I'm sure you've all recently read, I'm not the only one. You see, HK 47 may not have the largest fanbase around, but he sure as heck has one of the most fanatical ones. KotOR players absolutely adore the evil droid. They love him with a love that Lloyd and Jak will never feel, and that will be their undoing. In addition to this, the Xbox characters we've seen thus far (Marcus Fenix, Sam Fisher kinda sorta he's Xbox enough, ok?) have performed admirably, which leads one to believe that Xbox-exclusive characters may be independent enough from their opponents to secure their own little bonus voting blocks. If this holds true, it can only help the Hunter Killer unit. Should be a good match, and like Phoenix/Bomberman/Crash, might be an entertaining three man race, but my money is on HK-47 to accompany Zero to Round 2. Zero - 42% HK-47 - 21% Lloyd Irving - 19% Jak - 18% Lopen’s Analysis Alright... Zero wins, right? ... heh. Maybe. I can't help but shake this feeling that Zero is going to pull a Magus in this match and pull some lowly number like 35% against these guys. Kinda similar situations these two guys: Both looked like near elite characters in the past. Both got beaten in matches they were heavily favored in recently. However, Zero's obtaining of 45% against Mega Man leads me to believe that he's less succeptable to collapse than Magus is, who only got 30% on Crono. Okay, I said maybe, but I didn't mean it literally. Even if he does collapse, no way he's gonna lose to Lloyd Irving, C-3P0, and Playstation Platforming Character #15. What I meant was he'll be a loser if this happens, even in victory. So who wins between Lloyd Irving, Droid Irving, and PPC15? Well, my money is on Lloyd Irving here. Okay, yes, Zelos Wilder looked like crap, but Kratos Aurion didn't do badly in his match. Maybe Zelos was just weak, sad as it be. I still believe that ToS fans will have some degree of loyalty to their characters, and that Lloyd Irving, like Kratos, has already been seen. Heck, he is the only one of these other characters to win a match, right? PPC15 doesn't strike me as the type to hold up well here, despite looking the strongest at face value by the stats (I think...?), though IG-88 is a real threat. I've seen his fanbase in action and it seems pretty devoted. However, I'd still say Lloyd was more impressive in his defeat by Zero than R2-D2 was against Sora, though the droid has had a game since then, I think, making things even more iffy. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:22:08 PM | message detail | #039 |
| I'm not sure who wins... but the moral of the
story is: Don't abandon Lloyd just because Zelos looked bad. He's never
been a powerhouse, but he doesn't need to be to take second in this
four pack. Plus he looks by far the most awesome in the pic. A picture
is worth a thousand votes. But a badass picture is worth like... twenty
thousand votes. And as we all know, Lloyd Irving fans like having two
of things for twice the power, they'll all vote twice. 40000 is pretty
unsurmountable for the other two. Yeap. ... what? Lopen's Prediction: Zero - 34.20% Lloyd Irving - 24.42% General Grievous - 23.04% Playstation Platforming Character #15 - 18.34% (oh I forgot he's edgy now in his new games... I don't care!) Karma Hunter’s Analysis Whee, it's the moment we've all been waiting for, and I'll steal tranny's dubbing that you'll see below: the Jakpack of suck. Uhm... no, not much here I wanted to put except stealing his thunder, let's get on to the matches! HK-47 The most lovably badass droid to come out of the Star Wars universe. I have yet to find a single person who does not ADORE HK. Sub-humans and fecal matter, sure, but not *people*. Lloyd Irving Massively hyped up for his contest debut, Lloyd was the biggest dud of 2005. He returns here trying to stop the 0-2 streak ToS has been on so far in this contest. Seeing as how I'm not convinced he's much higher than Zelos on the ToS food chain... eww Jak Casual power in a can, baybee! Jak is our other 2k4 one-and-done character, although he had a good shot to win his match that many *cough*Ulti*cough* downplayed. Unfortunately, he had to go up against Ness, whose power hadn't been realized due to SFF... but these days, Jak looks alright in retrospect! With the third game under his belt, he's the final contender for second place. Zero lol see the name Well, Zero's a non-factor, so let's get on to the competition. Lloyd is statistically the weakest guy here, but the loyalty of the ToS fanbase may put him over. Unfortunately, it's LLOYD, so that's a longshot right there. I will say his picture stands out the most for "OMG anime" fans or whatever. But he's got the least shot of winning to me in this tight threepack. Next comes Jak, who is statistically in the middle, but due to Auron being underrated in 2004 is probably the highest guy statistically. 'Casual' characters who are typically weak have impressed this contest, too (see: Crash), and with his third game he has a decent reason to rise. The biggest 'wildcard' here, he's a good bet. But my money's on the one character here who can be called a FAN-FAVORITE - HK-47, an lol optional character from an lol Xbox RPG, who makes up for it in one way: he beats the piss out of every single character in this match. Seriously. HK-47 would outgun Jak while running at half-capacity while out-zinging Daxter. He'd dual wield blasters faster than Lloyd could make his 1+1 speech. And Zero? lol Jedi Killer. The foolish meatbags and cheap imitation don't have anything on the greatest assassin droid to come out of gaming AND Star Wars. Eat it, IG-88. While we're at it, Boba can eat it too. Oh, and never mind that he's got a fan-favorite status, isn't a bad pick based on the stats, and has had KOTOR II since his last contest appearance. I'm picking him since he told me to. Karma Hunter's Vote: A MERE PROTOCOL DROID, MASTER Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Zero with 47%, HK-47 with 21%, Jak with 18%, Lloyd with 14% Upset Probability: 100% lol switch zero and hk around I mess up |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:23:05 PM | message detail | #040 |
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Transience’s Analysis ahh, the Jakpack of Suck. I hate even talking about this match because it's asking who the least bad character is compared to Zero. Mewtwo is out in the first round, but one of these guys will advance to get killed in the next round. anyway, Zero obviously wins. the question is by how much? looking at previous fourpacks, the favourite has struggled to get a big percentage. Mario had a match with a SFFed icon, a third-tier MGS character and a guy with no name, and still couldn't manage 60%. Mario also beat Zero pretty hard a couple years ago. granted, this fourpack is probably weaker than Mario's was, but I can't see Zero doing much more than 50% here. that means someone's gonna need to get a good 20% to win. all three have their strengths and weaknesses. Lloyd is probably the most relevant character of the three right now, or at least he is on GF. TOS has a sizable fanbase on this website, and they seem the type to vote their guy over everything. unfortunately for him, Lloyd is not universally liked by the fanbase and Zelos pretty much bombed a few matches ago. Lloyd and Zelos aren't connected at the hip, but Lloyd seems to be a much worse pick now than he was pre-contest. I'd put him as the least likely to advance, though I wouldn't be surprised at all if he did. HK-47 is the most "loved" character of the three. his fanbase, while not big, is certainly loyal. KOTOR did pretty good against GTA:VC in the games contest (40%), and HK himself got a full 35% on 2004 Sora. that's not exactly great, but it's better than Lloyd's 28% on Zero. I'd say HK has the most impressive "resume" of the three and is probably the "safe" pick at this point. for some reason, though, I can't pick him. I think it's because I hesitate to see him bringing in 20% of the vote here. I think Sora got antivoted a lot back in 2004, and that HK's a bit inflated. I don't have a lot of faith in the KOTOR fanbase being all that numerous. which brings us to Jak. Jak's sole contest appearance is 45% against 2004 Ness when he was the favourite on this board. it's a decent showing, but PS2 platformers have never gotten a lot of love here. still, he's the most recognizable character of the bunch, and while he has the smallest "hardcore" following, I think he'll get the "casual" vote. plus, he's not all that much weaker than Ness. I don't really like picking any of these three guys, but if I have to pick one, I'll side with Jak. the Jakpack of Suck one of these losers moves on Jak is the least weak transience's prediction: Zero with 45.95%, Jak with 21.66%, HK-47 with 18.55%, Lloyd with 13.84% Guest’s Analysis - Who Cares? This match features something that has been quite rare in this contest, a poll with four characters that should have no major overlap of fanbases. Zero’s popularity comes primarily from the SNES, with a little help from the PS1 & GBA. HK-47 from the Xbox, Jak from the PS2, & Lloyd from the Gamcube. When I first saw this match on the bracket, it definitely struck me as a real toss up for 2nd place. (If Zero isn’t 1st on your bracket, it better be a zero (no pun) bracket or a favorites) So much so, that I felt there wasn’t really a horrible choice per se, as you could make a case for any of the three to come out on top. My choice from day one has been Zero > Lloyd since I pretty much drank the ‘Hardcore fanbases can score big in this format’ Kool-Aid like many others, and ToS fans can be very rabid at times. For the most part, since I’ve had no major reason for Lloyd winning other than that & the whole ‘on a Nintendo system’ argument, I decided to watch for any intangibles for each character I could spot in the days leading up to the match that could help determine a favorite for this writeup. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:24:12 PM | message detail | #041 |
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HK-47 *Taking the KotOR fans word for it, HK is a huge favorite of theirs & should get the full support of every one of the game’s fans. *While his 35% performance on Sora already makes him look like the best of the three, seeing Agent 47 perform well enough in his match may have helped debunk the idea that Sora receives a hefty amount of anti-votes against weaker competition, making HK’s performance look even better. *KotOR 2 was released after the 2k4 contest, which could give him an addition boost. *If there’s one negative I can think of, Xbox characters outside of Master Chief have never been all that special in these contests, so I wouldn’t expect HK to breakaway if he lands in 2nd. Jak *Jak’s is easily the most mainstream of the three and will definitely have the support of the casual vote. *Despite losing to Ness with 45%, people big on the X-Stats can take heart that Ness has never had a clear reading thanks to being stuck behind SFF year after year, meaning he could be stronger than his actual placement. *Despite his casual appeal, Gamefaqs really doesn’t care for 3D platformer characters, as indicated by their rather sorry history in these contests. From as far back as Spyro getting his face kicked in by Morrigan Aensland in 2k2, to Crash, a former icon, finishing last in a poll featuring Bomberman & a guy that broke GFNW a few days ago. If you can think of a 3D platformer that’s appeared in these things, you can be sure that they’ve done poorly. *However, Crash not being totally buried in his fourpack should be something that would raise the hopes of people that have him finishing 2nd. Lloyd *While Lloyd isn’t totally hated, he’s far from the fan favorite of his game, that honor goes Kratos & perhaps even Sheena. Still he should have a fair amount of pull from the rabid ToS fanbase. *It may not mean much, but it is worth noting unlike Kratos & Zelos, Lloyd won’t be sharing the poll with someone that also appeared on the Gamecube. *As mentioned earlier, considering to ole ‘When in doubt, go with Nintendo & Square’ mentality, Lloyd is the closest to Nintendo as you’ll get in this match. (Which would explain why he’s the favorite in the BOP & Guru) *However, characters from cult RPGs have not been off to a good start in this contest. The only one that has really done anything is KOS-MOS, and even then, you can argue that Arthas & Diablo took each other out of the running. So yeah, looking at everything now compared to when I first made the bracket, Kratos & Zelos’ performances have made me lose a good deal of faith in the red swordsman, and it would no longer surprise me if he finished 4th in horrible fashion. (And if that happens; don’t you even THINK about bringing any of these guys back Symphonia fans!) And if I could make a change to my bracket, I would change to HK-47. Still, I don’t think anyone is really going to run away with 2nd & since Lloyd is in my bracket, I have to hope that he can grab the full support of the ToS fans, & that they can help him squeeze by HK and advance. Meh, not a great writeup…but look at the level of suck I have to work with! :P Character Preference: Zero by far Vote: Lloyd PREDICTION: Zero - 40%, HK-47 - 21.51%, Jak - 20.49%, Lloyd -18% Crew Consensus: In a highly-debated match, the Crew is mostly siding with Zero > HK-47, with Zero > Jak next and 1 taking Zero > Lloyd. |
| shadow8021 | Posted 9/17/2007 9:24:42 PM | message detail | #042 |
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Tag --- Character Battle Score: 46/56 Today's Pick: Crono > Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 9:26:43 PM | message detail | #043 |
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What the hell is this Zero > HK consensus? My indie cred is slipping away I can FEEL IT --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| heroic tranny | Posted 9/17/2007 9:33:32 PM | message detail | #044 |
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darn you kay aitch --- xyzzy |
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/17/2007 9:34:37 PM | message detail | #045 |
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Match #16 [Who Picked Whom] Group Winner Zero - 179 (97.81%) HK-47 - 3 (1.64%) Lloyd - 1 (0.55%) --- Second Place Lloyd - 113 (61.75%) Jak - 36 (19.67%) HK-47 - 30 (16.39%) Zero - 4 (2.19%) I went to the Guru to point out to KH that HK-47 was favoured, and I find this. ...I honestly can't remember seeing anyone hype either Jak or Lloyd for this match. o.O ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 9:35:22 PM | message detail | #046 |
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That's because Kratos and Zelos happened. And no one cares for Jak. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe HK-47/Lloyd/Jak/Zero - Bracket: Zero > HK-47 - Vote: HK-47 (52/60) |
| heroic tranny | Posted 9/17/2007 9:35:26 PM | message detail | #047 |
| yeah, this is one of the matches where we disagree
with the masses big-time. we'll either be "lol board 8" or "lol
analysis crew" in 24 hours. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 9:36:32 PM | message detail | #048 |
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If Lloyd wins this I know the board is gonna gloat and rub it in our faces which is why I'm taking a preemptive strike! If HK pulls this off Lloyd supporters are gonna be feelin' it --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/17/2007 9:37:11 PM | message detail | #049 |
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I'm talking about pre-contest. Until a couple of days ago, I hadn't
seen anyone bring up the possibility of anyone other than HK moving on. I'm hoping for "lol board 8" personally! ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| ZFS | Posted 9/17/2007 9:38:37 PM | message detail | #050 |
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If Lloyd wins something has gone wrong somewhere. --- Final Fantasy VII Remake -- Believe |
