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Character Battle VI Contest Analysis Crew
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/10/2007 10:30:36 PM | message detail | #351 |
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Wait, I was looking at the wrong match anyway, I wasn't the guest for the Ocelot match.... --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket 27/32 >: ( |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 9/10/2007 10:34:00 PM | message detail | #352 |
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| Lopen | Posted 9/10/2007 10:41:21 PM | message detail | #353 |
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Not to nitpick, but a few more corrections! I get 0 on the Kefka/Marcus Fenix match's second place. Ulti and Guest get 0 on the Jill match. LOOK HOW I DENY MYSELF POINTS! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Lopen | Posted 9/10/2007 10:43:28 PM | message detail | #354 |
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Er, I suppose it'd be 0 on the first place, since Marcus Fenix is the one I didn't have. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 9/10/2007 10:44:12 PM | message detail | #355 |
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Not nitpicking at all. On the contrary, I appreciate it a lot. Also, I
did actually subtract those points from Ulti and the Guest on the
overall list, but forgot to change those numbers to zero. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 9/10/2007 10:47:08 PM | message detail | #356 |
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Kefka vs. Marcus Fenix vs. Tom Nook vs. Zelos Wilder First Place +8 Guest +7 HM +6 tran +5 Mo +4 KH +3 Ulti +2 Yo +0 Lo Second Place +8 Guest +7 KH +6 tran +5 Lo +4 Mo (tie) +4 Yo (tie) +2 Ulti +1 HM Cloud Strife vs. Jill Valentine vs. Midgar Zolom vs. Revolver Ocelot First Place +8 Mo +7 tran +6 Yo +5 Guest +4 HM (tie) +4 KH (tie) +2 Lo +1 Ulti Second Place +8 HM (tie) +8 Mo (tie) +6 Lo +0 tran +0 KH +0 Yo +0 Guest +0 Ulti Auron vs. Chris Redfield vs. Pyramid Head vs. Shadow the Hedgehog First Place +8 Yo +7 tran +6 Lo +5 Mo +4 KH +3 Guest +2 Ulti +1 HM Second Place +8 HM +7 Ulti +6 Yo +5 tran +4 Lo +3 KH +2 Mo +1 Guest Bowser vs. Mewtwo vs. Ryu vs. Toad First Place +8 Guest +7 Lo +6 tran +5 KH +4 Mo +3 HM +2 Yo +0 Ulti Second Place +8 Lo +7 Mo +6 Guest +5 KH +4 tran +3 Ulti +2 Yo +1 HM Overall Rankings 1. Master Moltar (85) 2. Yoblazer33 (75) 3. transience (74) 3. Board 8 (74) 5. Lopen (72) 6. Karma Hunter (70) 7. Heroic Mario (63) 8. UltimaterializerX (41) Let's hope everything is correct this time. ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2007 10:48:21 PM | message detail | #357 |
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lol Hit or Miss Lopen more liek Hit or Miss Ulti aw yeah --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 10:54:41 PM | message detail | #358 |
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aww yeah moltar winning yo's rankings again --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe CATS/Meta-Knight/Peach/Sephiroth - Bracket: Seph > Peach - Vote: Meta-Knight (28/32) |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:50:15 AM | message detail | #359 |
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I was just trying to do a simple write up, and I ended up exceeded the character-limit by 100... WTF. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:58:42 AM | message detail | #360 |
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Really, is a 4000 characters too much? I mean... I wanted to get all my points across and such. =P --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Lugia2 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:01:45 AM | message detail | #361 |
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There's almost no chance of Meta Knight beating Peach... only CATs has a chance, really. Almost only counts in horseshoes! WEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, not to be mean, I just feel like I have way too much sugar now that I see Meta Knight with a slim "lead" in second! YAY! --- VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!! Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much. Lugia2-1246-5250-1185 |
| Tatl | Posted 9/11/2007 8:17:07 AM | message detail | #362 |
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Almost only counts in horseshoes! WEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost only counts in hand shoes and horse grenades. XD --- Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion! Go Midna! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 2:55:37 PM | message detail | #363 |
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Haha. Crew got owned by Meta Knight. Awesome. I'm surprised no one picked Meta Knight. If I thought Sephiroth was gonna do this poorly I probably would've put my money on him instead. Though it's also just because I bet against Peach whenever possible... heh. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| gets | Posted 9/11/2007 3:43:17 PM | message detail | #364 |
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i read this yesterday and wondered why there wasnt even one crew member
who picked meta knight 2nd. Bad pick all around, way to follow
percentages. --- BSE TOP 500 |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/11/2007 4:25:02 PM | message detail | #365 |
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aw yeah, everyone says that after the fact crew got owned today, no doubt, but so did everyone else --- THE ORDER MATTERS?!?!?!?!?! now playing: Jeanne d'Arc |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/11/2007 4:34:43 PM | message detail | #366 |
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From gets Posted 9/11/2007 4:43:17 PM #364 i read this yesterday and wondered why there wasnt even one crew member who picked meta knight 2nd. Bad pick all around, way to follow percentages. I love how everyone says this after the fact. ~*ST*~ --- Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 8:43:24 PM | message detail | #367 |
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Bowser...........28.62% 39225 Mewtwo..........24.95% 34197 Ryu...................36.3% 49754 Toad..............10.14% 13895 TOTAL VOTES..........137071 18.02% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly. 16.75% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly. 54.53% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd. 70.26% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st. Ryu easily takes first, which threw most bracketmakers in a loop. Mewtwo also performs very well, coming close to Bowser. Crew Prediction Challenge - Lopen hits and gets the point. Lopen - 2 Yoblazer - 2 Moltar - 1 Guest (Turtle) - 1 Tran - 1 KH - 1 Ulti - 0 HM - 0 Crew Accuracy Challenge - HM gets the point for Ryu (even though he had him in 2nd!), Lopen gets the point for Bowser, KH gets the point for Mewtwo, and Yo gets the point for Toad. Yoblazer - 7 HM - 6 Lopen - 5 Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle) - 4 Tran - 4 KH - 4 Ulti - 3 Moltar - 2 --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe CATS/Meta-Knight/Peach/Sephiroth - Bracket: Seph > Peach - Vote: Meta-Knight (28/32) |
| Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/11/2007 8:49:46 PM | message detail | #368 |
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| Lugia2 | Posted 9/11/2007 9:00:22 PM | message detail | #369 |
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I couldn't really see how Peach would win, frankly. I was utterly
shocked when I found out that CATS was more favored than MK! Seph isn't
THAT strong (given how Cloud could only get 60% and Samus a little
less), and Peach...I'm surprised she has 15%... Ah well. I'll lose anyway, but in the meantime- YAY META KNIGHT! NOMINATE HIM FOR 2008! Then he might actually WIN a match. Or get killed by Knuckles. It'll be fun either way! --- VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!! Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much. Lugia2-1246-5250-1185 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 9:30:01 PM | message detail | #370 |
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Division 3: Round 1 - Match 10 – Banjo vs. Captain Falcon vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wario Moltar’s Analysis Banjo Game/Series Known From: Banjo-Kazooie Awesome game, but I doubt he’s worth much. Falcon Game/Series Known From: F-Zero Seed in 2006: 8 Lost in 2006 to Crono in Round 1 PAWWWNNNCCCHHHH Fox Game/Series Known From: Star Fox Seed in 2002: 15 Seed in 2003: 9 Lost in 2002 to Cloud in Round 1 Lost in 2003 to Link in Round 2 Now equipped with his dinosaur-beating staff. Wario Game/Series Known From: Wario Ware Seed in 2003: 8 Lost in 2003 to Shadow in Round 1 Mario’s nemesis turned microgame star is back. This match is a Nintendo fan’s wet dream and also worst nightmare at the same time. I mean, look at this! Just trying to predict who has the SFF advantage in like choosing your favorite toothpick between four identical toothpicks. Plus, these aren’t even 4 top Nintendo competitors! This is a match to decide the cream of the Nintendo midcard! Someone, please, just end it all now! Okay, really. Fox should be the strongest of these characters. We don’t have good data on him, but all signs are just pointing to it. For second, I’m going Wario. Again, the data on him isn’t to reliable, but it just feels right. Falcon should do decently, and Banjo is looking to be a clear fourth. Seriously, this match is annoying. Anyone who claims to know exactly how the SFF goes in this match is crazy. The general consensus is going Fox > Wario, and I’m going to agree. Capt. Falcon could make it interesting though, so keep an eye on him. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Fox > Wario > Falcon > Banjo Moltar’s Prediction is: Fox: 38% - Wario: 31% - Falcon: 19% - Banjo: 12% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis As popular as Banjo is among his fans, the Summer 2004 Contest proved that 3D platformer characters are well beyond phased out on GameFAQs. In a poll with four characters vying for the Nintendo vote, I think it's safe to assume he comes in last place. This brings us to the other three characters. Captain Falcon might have a few fans from the F-Zero series, but in reality he's a Super Smash Brothers avatar. Nearly all of his popularity comes from that series. Fox is very popular due to Smash, but also has his own Star Fox series to fall back on, one that is much more popular than F-Zero. I actually think Star Fox 64 alone will be enough to push Fox into first place in this match. He's got the most popular series of any character here, and is more cool than the others. Given Nintendo's fanbase, this is all you need to get the SFF. The wild card here is Wario. We don't really know how popular the WarioWare series is, though Smooth Moves was received well enough. The other games in the series have done well enough for themselves; at least, better than F-Zero games. It's easy to think Wario > Falcon, but SSB factor paired with Wario being a fat slug of a character that no one likes makes it precarious to pick him over Falcon. Falcon has the cool factor going for him, and Wario doesn't. Wario is relying on standing strength to come in second place here, though Falcon edging him out wouldn't surprise me at all. Ulti's Prediction: Fox [32.00%] Wario [26.00%] Falcon [24.00%] Banjo [18.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Fox McCloud -- 37% Wario -- 35% Captain Falcon -- 15% Banjo -- 13% If there were justice here, Captain Falcon would rock this. Alas, too many folks haven’t read The Interview! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 9:30:40 PM | message detail | #371 |
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This is a pretty simple match-up, really. The two characters of note in
this one are Fox and Wario. Both haven’t seen a contest since 2003,
both have put a few games under their belt, and both have been shown in
Brawl -- which accounts for something, I’m sure, but don’t ask me what
exactly. Naturally, one would think that Wario would have the advantage here due to being from the Mario series, which is far and away more popular than Star Fox. But for some reason, I see Fox having the more dedicated fanbase, and just being liked more within the Nintendo fanbase. The Star Fox series may be weaker than Mario, but it’s still loved (rightfully so!), and Fox being in SSBM gives him that “SSB vote.” I think there being three total Nintendo characters here could actually end up helping Fox more than hindering him, too. It’s not that he’s immune to SFF -- quite the contrary -- but I’m more confident in him having the larger number of hardcore fans. Bracket: Fox > Wario Vote: Captain Falcon -- winning is bold Yoblazer’s Analysis Well, if you're looking for a match with four-way SFF, this is probably your best bet. Three of these characters are true blue Nintendo, and the fourth has only appeared on Nintendo systems. I am, of course, talkin' about my boy Captain Falcon, the supa cool Fox McCloud, fatman extraordinaire Wario, and uhh... Banjo. Let's get it on or something! Fox is the clear favorite in this match. Of the four characters, he stars in the strongest main series (unless you count Wario's combined appearances in the multiplayer Mario games), and is one of the most popular and beloved characters in the Super Smash Bros. scene. Even with all the surprising previous results and SFF galore in this match, I'm not expecting him to lose this. Banjo, on the other hand, is pretty screwed. Despite appearing only on Nintendo systems, he has none of the Nintendo fringe benefits (SSB, other multiplayer games, etc.) his opponents all share. This, coupled with the fact that he hasn't starred in a game in years, spells his doom. The battle for second has seen some debate, but general opinion still firmly favors Wario. While Captain Falcon does have the Smash advantage, many, including me, feel that Fox will neutralize it. Wario also has what could be a significant ace in the hole: WarioWare. He didn't have the relatively new series when he sucked it up against Shadow in 2003, but he has it now. It's fun, addictive, extremely well selling, and may not be all that popular on GameFAQs, but when his competition is weak, it could make a difference. Fox > Wario. Fox McCloud - 34% Wario - 25% Captain Falcon - 22% Banjo - 19% Lopen’s Analysis Why couldn't Captain Falcon be stuck in a match with another fodder and Link/Cloud so I could just make an analysis involving entirely Captain Falcon quotes and Falcon Punching Marle? *sigh*... okay.. I'll try and "analyze" this four pack... though it bores me quite a bit. Not because it's terribly easy... just because... I don't know, I just hate it, okay? Yes, I'm incredibly unbiased, fools! Okay, speaking of Captain Falcon, he's got no chance here. Period. I think about F-Zero people have played his series... whatever the hell it's called. Smash Brothers? Fox is a bigger favorite from that, so he'll be sponging up the votes from there. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 9:31:18 PM | message detail | #372 |
| So then we've got sorta SFFed Smash + Star Fox vs
Warioware + Mario Golf/Baseball/Party 1-45/Soccer/Power Tea Drinking vs
Banjo Kazooie. (which I don't see standing the test of 8 years well
enough to be a threat.) Give me Fox and Wario based on those
credentials. With Fox doing a bit better because of Smash, if nothing
else. You'll notice that I have Captain Falcon higher than Banjo
despite throwing Captain Falcon out of the running first. That's just
because I see Banjo as having more x-factors going for him in this
match. I still think he'll be weakest, by far. Lopen's Prediction: Fox - 32.08% Wario – 29.08% Captain Falcon - 21.60% Banjo – 15.24% Karma Hunter’s Analysis One of the easiest decisions for me to make so far (so I'm sure I'll be wrong !!). Fox is a clear step above these chumps, and Wario would be stronger than Falcon if he had SSBB - and now he has the trailer, and that at least helps. It's an all-Nintendo SFF fest here, but I feel safe about having Fox and Wario advancing, in that order. Falcon could *maybe* upset, but Banjo's got really nothing here. Really not much more to say, other than the dynamics of who win may affect the next match thanks to Meta Knight. Yay SSBB fest -_- Karma Hunter's Vote: Captain Falcon. You think you can beat me? NO WAI Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Fox with 35%, Wario with 27%, Captain Falcon with 22.5%, Banjo with 15.5% Upset Probability: 20% Of course, Falcon has a slight shot at this, with Banjo being even slighter. Falcon has actually appeared in SSB, and Banjo has Rare "independence" on his side. I dunno though... I realy don't see this outcome changing much. Prove me wrong, unpredictable contest! Transience’s Analysis why hello there, Nintendo. three lower-tier Nintendo characters and another guy with Nintendo roots get thrown into a poll that should probably be unpredictable, but isn't really all that bad. Banjo is likely fodder so we don't have to worry about him, but the other three Nintendo guys could finish in any order and I wouldn't be all that surprised. to start with, we've got two guys that get most of their popularity from SSBM - Falcon and Fox. I don't see how Falcon could possibly beat Fox in this match. Fox has more SSBM fans, more fans from his native series and probably a more appealing character design. I see Falcon as being a guy that gets nearly all of his votes from SSBM. he got beat by Crono pretty hard and you won't find racing game characters being worth much at all on this site. I see Falcon as being a non-factor in this match, except for the possibility of splitting "SSBM votes" with Fox to weaken him. then there's Wario. Wario's sole contest performance is a pretty bad one: a doubling at the hands of Shadow in 2003. a lot of people, myself included, took Wario to win that match. he looked like fodder and hasn't been back since. however, since that time Nintendo characters have boosted site-wide, Warioware has become a real series, and he's got that SSBB announcement to work off of. it's very likely that Wario's stronger now than ever. is it enough to take Fox? maybe, but I'm not betting on it. being a fan-favourite in SSBM > farting in some trailer. Starfox 64 >> everything Wario's ever been in, not to mention that being the main character in a game is more important than being one of a sea of characters in one of those party games. Wario is certainly more well-known and seems more "now" than Fox does, but I'm gonna put my faith in Mr. McCloud here. Do a barrel roll! Wario farts, Falcon's lame man, Nintendo sucks transience's prediction: Fox - 36.33%, Wario - 32.44%, Captain Falcon - 16.55%, Banjo - 14.68% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 9:32:15 PM | message detail | #373 |
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Guest’s Analysis - Haste2 Ah, a Nintendo all-stars match...! I'm right at home here. However, that's not how it's going to be for everyone: the vote totals are going to be deathly low, as past Nintendo/Nintendo matches have shown. This match will attract Nintendo fans, and none else. Now, let's compare the past results with everyone. Fox McCloud: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=947 Captain Falcon: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2527 Wario: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1322 Two are ancient, yes. The easiest comparison here is between Fox and Captain Falcon. Cloud at any time is arguably stronger than Crono of last year. Also note that Captain Falcon's score was post-2K5 (Nintendo boost!), so I see no reason for Captain Falcon to be any threat for Fox McCloud, let alone both Fox and Wario combined. Banjo should be another Conker, really... Is a bear wearing a backpack that appealing? He may be able to avoid some SFF here making him look decent (beating out Captain Falcon, perhaps?), considering Conker was able to avoid such from Yoshi way back when. Let's get into the real meat and potatoes now... Wario or Fox McCloud? Let's look into Wario first. Wario was rather embarassed by Shadow... and now that we've seen Shadow disappoint against Auron (he was closer to Pyramid Head than Auron, for pete's sake)... however, it's my opinion that Shadow gets hurt in the 4-character format. Next, I'll point to Shadow's anomaly... the WTF 45% on Mario. Well, would it be so bad to assume that a little bit of that was actually Shadow's own strength? It's rather unfair to say he couldn't have been stronger than an SFF-adjusted x-stats value from SC2K4. As for Wario TODAY... he's gotten Wario's gotten increased publicity and has a part in some really respected games, most notably his WarioWare sequels. These games appeal to a different audience, allowing Wario to get exposure to a wider demographic. Demographics is more important than the character's role at times. Finally, Wario has been announced for Super Smash Bros. Brawl... we have seen Meta Knight perform well already (not to mention Snake of last year), so it's pretty clear SSBB is quite potent. Did I mention Wario is one of the greatest characters ever? His fans realize such, and thus they will back Wario like no tomorrow in a 4-way poll! Yes, of course. Finally, some voters will be confused and think that Wario is actually Mario... why, when I was a little kid I used to think Wario was Mario, but just drawn weird... didn't you? =P Now, getting to Fox McCloud... he deserves to be the favorite, admittedly. He's done decent, yet he failed to even perform up to the level of Miles "Tails" Prower back in the day. He has reason for increase... it seems Super Smash Bros. Melee has skyrocketed in popularity as of late (which is apparently the backbone of the Nintendo Boost), though I can't explain why. Fox McCloud, I believe, gets most of his backing from SSBM itself. Yes, SF64 is extremely popular, but how much do you actually like Fox in that game? Everything from SF64 is so very cheesy. However, Fox's badness scale in SSBM is sky-high, not to mention SSBM is the Fox-featuring game that people play these days. He's had a couple of new games out, too. How could Fox possibly lose? Well, Fox's "advantage" is going to ultimately result in Fox's demise. Why? Captain Falcon. He steals SSB support from Fox, meaning the only strong base Fox now has is his unlikeable role in the Star Fox series... meanwhile, Wario has less to lose from that, and is still able to ride off the Mario fanbase. Final Results: Banjo - 17.36% Captain Falcon - 22.22% Fox McCloud - 30.10% Wario - 30.32% I'm Wario! I'm-a gonna win-a! (You already won, silly!) Crew Consensus: Fox > Wario, we guess. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/11/2007 9:44:05 PM | message detail | #374 |
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oh haste tell me you aren't complaining about starfox being cheesy while calling wario the best character ever --- THE ORDER MATTERS?!?!?!?!?! "war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:14:38 PM | message detail | #375 |
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Dang it, I KNEW someone would comment on my calling Star Fox 64 cheesy.
And, don't comment on all my other nonsense... I had to make Wario win,
ya know?! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Tatl | Posted 9/11/2007 10:20:52 PM | message detail | #376 |
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crew got owned today, no doubt, but so did everyone else *Has Seph > Meta* *Did not get owned* --- Midna for 2007 Character Battle Champion! Go Midna! |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/11/2007 10:34:34 PM | message detail | #377 |
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DpOblivion's Unofficial Quick Analysis: Oh, you damn, damn cruel contest. After creeping right up to the leaderboard, I've lost 2 points in each of the last two matches, plus 4 points now in a 2nd round match. Seriously, where did Meta Knight come from? I am never trusting Peach against another Nintendo character ever again. Unless it's Daisy, of course. And here we go, once again we have a Nintendo-fest. Captain Falcon, Fox, Wario....and Banjo....Banjo easily gets last, Captain Falcon probably stumbles into 3rd place, leaving Fox and Wario for the top spot. But in what order? Guru favors Fox > Wario. I can see that. Fox has the very popular Star Fox series and all those famous quotes, plus being one of the most popular from SSBM, though he'll have a good deal of SFF with Captain Falcon among those voters. Wario, like Peach, is a big time Nintendo character, but probably not all that popular among them, so could easily suffer in this format. My bracket says otherwise, of course. And I'll be damned if I'm about to lose two more points. I won't be surprised if I do though. I guess I'm hoping for Wario's big name to pull through, unlike Peach, and that Captain Falcon should affect Fox much more than Wario. DpOblivion's bracket says: Wario > Fox DpOblivion's prediction is: Wario > Fox Confidence Rating: 49% Wario - 36% Fox McCloud - 34% Captain Falcon - 21% Banjo - 9% --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket 29/36 >: o |
| Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 10:38:12 PM | message detail | #378 |
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Hey Tatl, what's your score? Is it 160? Because that's about what the crew has! Do not doubt our power, punk! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:29:47 AM | message detail | #379 |
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CATS........................11.22% 15068 Meta Knight...............18.2% 24453 Princess Peach.....15.35% 20613 Sephiroth................55.23% 74190 TOTAL VOTES....................134324 53.03% of the brackets predicted 1st correctly. 16.65% of the brackets predicted 2nd correctly. 40.80% of the brackets predicted 1st to come in 2nd. 21.37% of the brackets predicted 2nd to come in 1st. Sephiorth doesn't do as well as most predicted, but who cares about that? The real shocker here is that Meta Knight managed to overcome the odds and take second quite easily! Crew Prediction Challenge - No one gets a point because no one predicted MK to get 2nd. augh us. Lopen - 2 Yoblazer - 2 Moltar - 1 Guest (Turtle) - 1 Tran - 1 KH - 1 Ulti - 0 HM - 0 Crew Accuracy Challenge - Guest gets 2 points for Seph and MK, Moltar gets the point for Peach, and Ulti and Tran get 1 for CATS. Yoblazer - 7 Guest (Bokonon_Lives "2", Dp, Turtle, Ashe "2") - 6 HM - 6 Lopen - 5 Tran - 5 KH - 4 Ulti - 4 Moltar - 3 --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Banjo/Falcon/Fox/Wario - Bracket: Fox > Wario - Vote: Fox (30/36) |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 9/12/2007 11:25:36 AM | message detail | #380 |
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CATS vs. Meta Knight vs. Princess Peach vs. Sephiroth First place +8 Guest +7 Mo +6 Yo +5 HM +4 Ulti +3 tran +2 KH +1 Lo Second Place +0 Guest +0 HM +0 KH +0 Lo +0 Mo +0 tran +0 Ulti +0 Yo Overall Rankings 1. Master Moltar (92) 2. Board 8 (82) 3. Yoblazer33 (81) 4. transience (77) 5. Lopen (73) 6. Karma Hunter (72) 7. Heroic Mario (68) 8. UltimaterializerX (45) At least calculating the second place rankings gave me a decent exercise in alphabetical order! |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/12/2007 3:40:09 PM | message detail | #381 |
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wow, go board 8. usually their crazy upset picks every round drops them
in accuracy rankings, but since everything here is unexpected... --- THE ORDER MATTERS?!?!?!?!?! "war uh ya what is it good for absulite nothing" -ertyu |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 9/12/2007 3:51:37 PM | message detail | #382 |
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...I thought I had predicted yesterday terribly. <_< ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:45 PM | message detail | #383 |
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hey moltar, can you drop my mario pick by 6% and up everyone else by 2%? (this is transience) --- ..r "No, I have common sense, which many people seem to lack." -Vlado |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:03:58 PM | message detail | #384 |
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Stopping in here and ask if you got my analysis for Friday. I sent it last night; just making sure it found its way to you. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 26/36; Oracle - 27th |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:47:43 PM | message detail | #385 |
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Division 3: Round 1 - Match 11 – Big Boss vs. Mario vs. Pac-Man vs. Wander Moltar’s Analysis Big Boss Game/Series Known From: Metal Gear Solid Seed in 2005: 7 Lost in 2005 to Auron in Round 1 As opposed to Small Boss. Mario Game/Series Known From: Super Mario Seed in 2002: 1 Seed in 2003: 1 Seed in 2004: 2 Seed in 2005: 1 Lost in 2002 to Link in the Finals Lost in 2003 to Sephiroth in the Elite 8 Lost in 2004 to Crono in Round 3 Won the 2005 Contest Lost on Day 2 of the Battle Royale Mario is back, baby! Pac-Man Game/Series Known From: Pac-Man Seed in 2002: 1 Seed in 2003: 5 Seed in 2004: 13 Seed in 2005: 7 Lost in 2002 to Scorpion in the Sweet 16 Lost in 2003 to Kefka in Round 1 Lost in 2004 to Luigi in Round 1 Lost in 2005 to Yoshi in Round 2 Oh Pac-Man, you and your Ocelot-beating self. Wander Game/Series Known From: Shadow of the Collossus Can overcome Collossus, can’t overcome this match. Alright, time to see the Big M in action! Well, honestly it isn’t that exciting. That’s because this is one of those matches were the strongest competitor, Mario in this case, easily takes the #1 spot over the others. But once again, the #2 spot is up for debate. Seems like in every match with a super strong character, there’s always two forgettable characters dueling it out for 2nd. This time around, it’s Big Boss and Pac-Man. “But Moltar!” You scream, “What about Wander?” What about Wander? I respond. Shadow of the Collossus is a good game indeed, but he has the least chance of taking #2 in this poll because his name just isn’t popular enough. Of course he’ll manage to rack up at least 5% thanks to hardcore SotC fans, but you’ll need a bit more if you want to go places in this match. Anyway, back to Pac-Man/Big Boss. Now, we’ve seen Pac-Man beat MGS before when he upset Ocelot, but this is a different ballgame. Pac-Man is a odd character. When he’s up against non-mainstream competition, he’ll perform well. However, put him up against a popular Nintendo character, and he flops hard. Pac-Man has gone up against Yoshi and Luigi in the past and got stomped into the ground. Unlucky for him, now he has to deal with the strongest Mario character, the man in red himself. This gives Big Boss the perfect opportunity to sneak into #2 here. Two years ago we saw him rack up 35% against Auron, so he certainly has his fans. I think with Pac-Man being pounded into the ground because of Mario’s presence, Big Boss will take the #2 spot. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mario > Big Boss > Pac-Man > Wander Moltar’s Prediction is: Mario: 58% - Big Boss: 19% - Pac-Man: 17% - Wander: 6% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis This match is one of those upset picks that I feel is very, very, VERY obvious. Mario is the clear first place character; Wander is the clear last place character, and I'll keep my SotC bias out of this writeup and just leave it at that. This leaves us with Big Boss vs Pac-Man for second place. Pac-Man could beat Big Boss heads-up. He beat Ocelot, which is why many people are shooing Pac into the next round. The problem is that Mario is in the poll along with Pac. If you thought Luigi and Yoshi made Pac look bad, wait until this poll. Mario is going to absolutely demolish Pac-Man, and it should leave plenty of room for Big Boss to squeeze into second place. If you want to throw stats into it, Big Boss 2005 against unadjusted Pac-Man 2004 (SFFd by Yoshi, who was then SFFd by Mega Man) should work: Big Boss 67.37% 59,505 Pac-Man 32.63% 28,825 TOTAL VOTES 88,330 Big Boss wins with 67.37% of the vote! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:48:31 PM | message detail | #386 |
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It's a stretch, but that's about the degree of SFF Pac should see here.
Mario is absolute worst character Pac-Man could have been stuck in a
match with. Ulti's Prediction: Mario [55.00%] Big Boss [20.00%] Pac-Man [12.60%] Wander [12.40%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Mario -- 71% Big Boss -- 13% Pac-Man -- 11% Wander -- 5% Faster than a vanishing clog! More powerful than an electric drainsnake! It’s Mario, baby! I’m expecting Mario to be one of the two characters in the first round to actually stand a shot at coming away with more than 70% of the vote -- the other being Link. Interestingly, I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to happen either. If you check out what Mario’s expected to get against both Big Boss and Pac-Man, before any type of wonky SFF gets involved, you get around the 70s for both of them -- around the mid-70s when it comes to Big Boss. That’s pretty encouraging, especially when you consider that Pac-Man has a history of performing very poorly against other Mario characters. If Mario can pull some wonky stuff on Pac-Man, I’d be assured it’d happen. I’m not entirely convinced that non-Snake MGS characters will perform well in this format, so I docked a few percentage points for Big Boss, too. They definitely get above 10%, but it’s not by a whole lot. I’m not seeing Wander doing anything here, either, so he’s nothing to worry about. It wouldn’t surprise me if he did even worse than 5%. Shadow of the Colossus may be a pretty popular game, but no one really knows who Wander is. His name isn’t mentioned in the game, his name is Wander, and he isn’t exactly a photogenic dude. He’ll be up there with the Zelos’ and Vaan’s of the world. If you’re a fan of potato sacks, and haven’t seen Wander yet, you’re in for a treat. Mario aside, the remaining question is whether or not Pac-Man can take first. Under normal circumstances, it’s a no brainer in favor of the dot eater, but I think Mario causes enough problems for Big Boss to just barely slip by. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Pac-Man did advance here, partially because Big Boss is just that bad, but I’m going to the “safe” route and assuming that there’s some wonky stuff that happens that prevents him from moving on. So if it all pans out, Mario will be good to break 70% here. I’m expecting Mario to get lots of love in this format. Don’t ask my why, exactly, but it just seems like he can bring the pain in fourpacks with a bunch of characters that no one really cares about. It’s a nice bonus that the better he does, the better the Mario > Sephiroth upset bandwagon can get rolling! Bracket: Mario > Big Boss Vote: PlumberFAQs Yoblazer’s Analysis Man, if it wasn't for Mario, this match would suck so much ass. I'm getting lethargic just looking at the other characters. Must I write about this? *sees Moltar tapping a 2x4 against his palm* Ah! Yes sir! Quality write-up coming right away! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:49:35 PM | message detail | #387 |
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Mario is the big guarantee here today, and it should be somewhat
interesting to just watch how badly he pwns his hapless opponents.
Pac-Man will likely get SFF'd, and the other two don't look like they'd
offer enough competition to really bring down the jolly plumber's
percentage. Most people are taking Metal Gear Solid's Big Boss to come
in a distant, ignoring the almost certainly stronger Pac-Man on the
grounds that Mario will SFF the hell out of the older gaming icon.
While this is the main reason I also took Big Boss, I can't help but
shake this foreboding feeling that the Pac is going to overperform and
**** me over once again. Heck, it's not like he's even someone that
would necessarily benefit from this type of voting format (especially
with Mario in the poll), but I can just picture some kind of sick
scenario where the average GameFAQs voter visits the site, sees the
poll, completely ignores Big Boss and Wander, clicks on the Mario
bubble, and then goes "Wait, let's be a bit more old school and
hardcore since Mario has this. Pac-Man!!!!1" I then envision myself
driving to the little brat's house and smacking the tar out of him.
Don't do it; I'll seriously harm you. Mario - 59% Big Boss - 17% Pac-Man - 15% Wander - 9% Lopen’s Analysis Use the shrooms to win here. Mario loves his super mushrooms and 1-Up mushrooms. While I hear Big Boss was all about the Russian glowcaps back in the day... Uh... where was I going with this match? I can't just say they're going to win because they eat mushrooms... *walks away... hushed whispers off camera... comes back* Oh, that's what Wander is? That weakling with the sword in Shadow of the Colossus? Who likes that guy? I'd have gone for his horse Prego ove... *whispers and noises off camera*... what do you mean his name was Agro? Alright, whatever.. the game totally sounded like he was saying Prego to me. Man, I'd vote a can of Prego over this guy... er... Okay, whatever. I'm just going to ignore Wander. SotC was not a colossal (the word you're thinking of is colossusal) release, Wander's design isn't really the type that stands out, and I see no reason why the fans of it would even care about the guy that much. Maybe if I played the whole game instead of most of it... I'd have seen the reason to like this guy... I mean, HM put him on his favorites list once, didn't he? That's gotta make him good, right? Right? ... HAHAHA... oh... oh... I floor myself with this wit. Alright, assuming you ignored Wander like I did in this group... why not Pac-Man? He's looked better than Big Boss, right? Well, yeah... but here's the thing. Old School SFF. Icon SFF if you rather? You saw what Luigi and Yoshi did to Pac Man, and Mega Man did to Ms. Pac Man... just think what Mario's gonna do to him! Mario will flatten Pac Man here. I think Pac might have enough true fans that he'll avoid being totally leveled, making it a close match with a weak Big Boss. But he might not... this is Mario we're talking about here... king of the icons. Big Boss also has the x-factor of the picture maybe helping him, to make me feel a little more confident in this pick. Lopen's prediction: Mario – 58.64% Big Boss – 20.02% Pac-Man – 16.03% Wander – 5.31% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:50:16 PM | message detail | #388 |
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Karma Hunter’s Analysis Heh. Initially I was going to call this match one of the few iffy ones of the first round, but after seeing it go by it'll be lucky to be one of the less boring. Anyway, today we have a SFF theory being put directly to the test. Wander's presence here is negligible, no one but SotC freaks know him and they'd have to be big freaks at that - Wander's "name" isn't exactly said at ALL during the course of the game. Mario's easily in first, so he's out of the equation. And so for second we have Pac-Man and Big Boss, a matchup that would under any other circumstances be a unanimous pick for Pac-Man. But we've seen in two instances - Yoshi and Luigi - that Pac gets effectively neutered against widespread Nintendo characters. Against Mario, this may be the weakest Pac we've ever seen - hence the support BB has here. How neutered is it? Well, 2k5 raw stats have Big Boss smashing Pac, but it also doesn't account for Mega/Yoshi SFF (as I was so helpfully reminded today). Yoshi is so hard to place, though... obviously overrated in 2k6, is adjusting through 2k5 Dante a good value? Perhaps, and if it does he goes from losing to getting much closer - perhaps even having an advantage - over Big Boss. But BB also has reason to be underrated (the Mario-Samus-Ganon chain), and shifts things back to his perspective. Yeah, BB looks like crap in that picture (why can't we ever get a Naked Snake pic? <_<). He did against Auron, too, so he shouldn't do much worse than that indicated. Yes, Pac looks as vibrant as ever, same as he did when he upended Ocelot. And when he got smashed by Yoshi. The difference is, for whatever reason, while I was lacking in confidence when the day of Ocelot/Pac approached... for some reason, I feel completely confident in Big Boss here. Maybe it's because I know there's a hardcore sect of MGS fans that know what Big Boss is and won't defect from him for ANYONE (he was considered over Auron by some for *reasons*, however crazy). Maybe it's because I have no faith in Pac-Man having any sort of significant fanbase that isn't built on casual fodder ( i.e. Mario defectors). Whatever the reason, I've got a good feeling, and I'm sticking with BB here. Karma Hunter's Vote: Big Boss. What, really? You weren't expecting that? <.< Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Mario with 64%, Big Boss with 19%, Pac-Man with 12%, Wander with 5% As you can tell, I'm expecting the Mario > Sephiroth rumblings to start up quite a bit after this match <___< Upset Probability: 40% I'm damn confident, but it's not like anything has been assured, especially in this format. I feel wary of SFF's ability to hold Pac completely under (does he have a floor of any sort?), and there's this format as well. Plus, no matter how much Pac gets sapped, BB has to be there to capitalize. The one-and-done against Auron wasn't exactly inspiring. Plus, a LOT of people have faith in Pac for some reason... people that typically don't give MGS any credit, sure, but it's not like Pac didn't pull an upset like this once already. Transience’s Analysis ahh, Mario is back. and with a fourpack like this, he's bound to kick ass again like he did back in 2005. since then, he hasn't looked all that great, but when your competition is Sephiroth, Link and Cloud, you're going to have trouble getting much of anything. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:51:12 PM | message detail | #389 |
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second place in this match bothers me. Wander is a complete not factor -- how many people even know
the name Wander? -- but Big Boss and Pac-Man both have reasons to
advance. Pac-Man's clearly the stronger of the two, having beaten
Ocelot straight-up in 2005. Ocelot definitely has looked stronger than
Big Boss in the past. however, Pac-Man has two matches with iconic
Nintendo characters, Luigi and Yoshi, and got brutalized in both. call
it "old-school SFF" or whatever you want, there's no doubt that he's
going to suffer when *the* video game icon is thrown into a match with
him. Big Boss seems like the "safe" pick here because of that, but I just don't like it very much. if I'm going to pick against a universally known character, I'd like it to be someone worth more than 28% on pre-KH2 Auron. I feel nervous even thinking about picking something like that against Pac-Man. despite that, I'm going cookie here. Big Boss advances in a match that Mario utterly dominates. Mario returns Pac's icon status won't help Big Boss squeaks by transience's prediction: Mario with 56.44%, Big Boss with 17.55%, Pac-Man with 16.89%, Wander with 9.12% Guest’s Analysis - ScorpionX3 I picked a match where I would vote for these characters over half of the others in the tournament, I like all of them a lot. But there is only one question in this match and it's obviously the Pac-Man VS Big Boss match. All italians are voting for Mario Let's start off by how much Mario should get and we can compare him with three big characters that already played, Cloud, MegaMan and Samus. Looking at the characters they were against we could relate this to Cloud since he also faced an MGS character (stronger one) so I believe Mario will have an easy job but scoring a little less than Cloud, even though these are all fairly easy characters. Mario is getting 57% MAX. All horned-man are voting for Wander The weaker character here is obviously Wander, he is getting the cult votes, which get a little more than the joke characters, but still won't reach the 10% mark, Shadow of the Colossus was a very good game, but you can't relate to Wander that much and people might realign their Wander votes to Big Boss here (both Playstation characters). I'm saying Wander gets 8%! All russians are anti-voting for Big Boss So with that out of the way we still have 35% to spread between Big Boss and Pac-Man. The obvious choice here seems to be Big Boss winning, but I see two possible ways and explanations they could go. On one side, we have Big Boss, a more in-depth character than Pac-Man and Metal Gear Solid keeps getting more support even to have Ocelot > Jill, also Pac-Man's nostalgy votes might all be stolen by Mario. But on the other hand let's remember that Pac-Man did beat Ocelot and Ocelot has a bigger fanbase than Big Boss, this is enough for me not make the same mistake twice, I said Ocelot > Pac-Man last time, but I'm saying Pac-Man > Big Boss this time. True Metal Gear Solid is getting stronger and Pac-Man is losing heat, but the past Pac-Man victory is still too fresh for us to forget it. Big Boss WILL get my vote, but will fall to Pac-Man. All ghosts are anti-voting Pac-Man Big Boss - 16.5% Mario - 57% Pac-Man - 18.5% Wander - 8% Crew Consensus: Mario > Big Boss due to Pac-Man getting SFFed spanked. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:51:53 PM | message detail | #390 |
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Stopping in here and ask if you got my analysis for Friday. I sent it last night; just making sure it found its way to you. Yep --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Banjo/Falcon/Fox/Wario - Bracket: Fox > Wario - Vote: Fox (30/36) |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:53:21 PM | message detail | #391 |
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Ha, didn't expect to see you guys to be all in favor of Big Boss here.
Call me crazy, but I can't help but feel good about Pac-Man tomorrow.
Just a vibe I'm getting. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 26/36; Oracle - 27th |
| dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 9:54:55 PM | message detail | #392 |
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I expected a Big Boss sweep. I don't think I really saw any
conversation about it after the first day. it was like "well, lol
mario/pac-man" and that was that. I think it's a complete toss-up. --- ..r "No, I have common sense, which many people seem to lack." -Vlado |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:58:31 PM | message detail | #393 |
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It's hardly like an upset would be unprecedented, even in this format
(and technically, Big Boss is the weaker character by far, so it's hard
to call it that...), but I'm getting none of the Ocelot/Pac vibe I was
getting two years ago. I just don't have any respect for Pac-Man's
"fanbase", not when he's robbed of his "default vote" strength. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 9:59:18 PM | message detail | #394 |
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on the contrary, I have that feeling in spades! --- ..r "No, I have common sense, which many people seem to lack." -Vlado |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:59:37 PM | message detail | #395 |
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Though of course a lot of the responsibility falls with Mario.
Remember, if Sephiroth had performed like many/most expected, CATS
could have been in the second round... --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 10:00:20 PM | message detail | #396 |
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on the contrary, I have that feeling in spades! I don't remember you having that feeling two years ago sounds like a poser feeler to me --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/12/2007 10:00:39 PM | message detail | #397 |
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Mario barely breaks 50%. Book it. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 26/36; Oracle - 27th |
| dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 10:01:00 PM | message detail | #398 |
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I was the original feeler, punk! --- ..r "No, I have common sense, which many people seem to lack." -Vlado |
| ZFS | Posted 9/12/2007 10:02:39 PM | message detail | #399 |
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Barely breaks 50%? New rumblings -- Samus > Mario indirectly !! --- Experiment status report update: Metroid project 'Dread' is nearing the final stages of completion. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 10:03:29 PM | message detail | #400 |
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I will hurt you all regardless of this result --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
