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Fall 2006 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3

Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 9:02:46 PM | message detail | #301
The funny thing is, I would have eliminated Lopen long ago if I'd stuck to my MM > Samus and Sonic > Crono picks.

...that is, if I'd actually signed up for the Guru.
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*kills self
Commit it to memory.
Lopen | Posted 10/22/2006 9:05:10 PM | message detail | #302
Psh. I wouldn't be so sure about that, buddy! I've still got Chun Li over Yuna, Dante over Yoshi, and a weird battle royal to help me! That's 22 points right there!
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/22/2006 9:06:32 PM | message detail | #303
I'm sad that I came to Board 8 so late in the game. The Oracle challenge would have been fun, and I would have many more points in this contest. =/
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The one. The only. Lady Ashe.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 9:07:39 PM | message detail | #304
I also have Chun-Li over Yuna. I can make up the deficit from Yoshi/Dante and the Royale fairly easily.

It'd be a blowout if it weren't for that darn Aeris! ha ha aeris
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/22/2006 9:08:41 PM | message detail | #305
You both have Chun-Li over Yuna? Damn! I've never seen so much wrong in one place!

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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/22/2006 9:09:29 PM | message detail | #306
You'll see even more now that you know that I don't have Zelda winning the whole thing. =/
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The one. The only. Lady Ashe.
Lopen | Posted 10/22/2006 9:10:40 PM | message detail | #307
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/22/2006 9:18:54 PM | message detail | #308
The funny thing is, I would have eliminated Lopen long ago if I'd stuck to my MM > Samus and Sonic > Crono picks.

Hmm, I have those. Assuming he has Zero or Kirby, maybe I can eliminate him if Luigi>Kirby (which I have). Then again, he probably has something funny in his BR.
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Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2006 9:46:28 PM | message detail | #309
Patriot Division: Round 2 - Match 42 – (6)Yoshi vs. (2)Dante

Moltar’s Analysis

Yoshi
Round 1 – 55.20% vs. Riku (44.80%)

Seems KH2 helped out Riku a lot, as he was able to put up 45% on Yoshi.

Dante
Round 1 – 65.20% vs. Ryu H. (34.80%)

Dante looking just as strong as he did last year.

Before this Contest, I thought this was the single toughest Round 2 match to predict. In the end, I went with Dante because I saw him as slightly, and I mean very slightly over Yoshi.

Now? I feel a bit different on the match. Yoshi looked bad in Round 1, plain and simple. As high as I put Yoshi pre-Contest, I don’t see Riku jumping up from Frog’s level to near Yoshi’s. Oh, and I had Yoshi around Dante’s level, which is 32% on Base Link. Now, I don’t think Riku jumped up over 6% from his rather small role in KH2 to justify Yoshi being that high.

Of course, Yoshi has some nice factors going for him. Of course, he’s Nintendo, and more mainstream than Dante. Also, if KH2 did for Riku what it looks to have done for Kairi and Axel, then Yoshi might have beaten a beastly Riku. That’s…about it though.

Dante, on the other hand, looked good on Ryu H. While looking at Zero and Ryu H. this year, it seems that they’ve both either dropped from 2005, or were actually overrated (I find that hard to believe…). Still, Dante seems at or around his 2005 numbers, and that should be more than enough to take Yoshi out without too much trouble. I’m going to guess this four-pack ends up in the stats for something like (rounded, and adjusted, because Snake gon’ kill Dante) 33% for Dante, 31% for Yoshi, 28% for Riku. Hey, I’ll be happy if the Dino ends up at 30% on BL, and Riku boosting 3-4% from KH2 sounds a lot more reasonable.

Oh, and time for the obligatory Yoshi-fanboy paragraph. Dante is awesome, but Yoshi is above that. If Yoshi pulls the upset, I’ll be very happy. I mean, we’ve never gotten a good read on Yoshi, and if he turns out to be stronger than Dante…wow! And then, the Yoshi > Snake bandwagon will be in full gear!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Dante will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Dante: 53% - Yoshi: 47%



Ulti’s Analysis

Dante's killing of Ryu H paired with Ganon getting clipped made it look like Yoshi had zero chance to win this, but then Luigi and Peach and Zelda had to go all berserk afterwards. Just when you think NintendoFAQs is dying, it shows itself in some funny ways. And with some of the morons around here that constantly whine about it, you half hope it continues getting worse.

Anyway at a glance, it seems Dante has the advantage here. He's coming off of said Ryu H beating as well as DMC3: Special Edition. There's also been a ton of DMC4 news out over the past couple of months, including an EGM cover story. Has anyone seen Yoshi lately?

Dante has outperformed Yoshi every year, but one stat jumps out at me:

Yoshi scored 43.67% against Bowser in an SFF match in 2003.

Dante 2005 supposedly would score 44.79% on Bowser 2005.

If Yoshi was noticeably SFFd in 2003, then he has a good chance of beating Dante. The problem is that the entire Dream Division from 2005 has tanked this contest, so Bowser is a bad measuring stick. Dante will likely win this barring some NintendoFAQs magic, but I'm picking Yoshi anyway just to keep with what I have in the bracket.

By the way, anyone using Riku as a basis for why Yoshi may do bad here needs some common sense. Have you people SEEN what KH2 has done over the past two contests?

Prediction: Yoshi with 50.15%



HM’s Analysis

Yoshi

Previous Matches:

Yoshi – 55.2% -- 69,394

Riku – 44.8% -- 56,325

Dante

Previous Matches:

Dante – 65.2% -- 77,894

Ryu Hayabusa – 34.8% -- 41,576
Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2006 9:47:17 PM | message detail | #310
It’s great how we get to the male bracket and kick it off with two really good matches. You almost have to be rewarded with this after enduring that awful female bracket. This match is one that has been hotly debated since the beginning of the contest and one that probably will be debated right up until the beginning of the match. With reason to doubt Yoshi’s ranking – potentially underrated – and reason to doubt Dante’s ranking – potential overrated – this match should definitely be a good one.

Dante, by the adjusted 2005 stats, is projected to win this match with somewhere around 55%. The choice on who wins this should seem very obvious at first, but there’s definitely the possibility that Yoshi was underrated last year when he had that strange match with Mega Man. The adjustments could have undershot where he really is and considering he only gained 2% last year during the great Nintendo Boost, there’s even more reason to be skeptical.

However, Dante comes into the match with a huge win over Hayabusa and with a new game (DMC: Special Edition) under his belt. The advantages are clearly all in Dante’s corner and it would probably be a surprise to quite a few people to see him lose today. I think Yoshi can definitely upset here with the possibility of an NSMB boost, Riku gaining more from KH2 than anticipated, and Dante not being too far off from his 2005 ranking. It requires quite a bit, but I think the green dinosaur is going to be able to squeak one out. I’m probably going to be the only one deviating from the Dante choice after what appears to be overwhelming evidence pointing to the Demon Hunter winning, but the same could be said in Zero/Luigi !!

Believe.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Dante

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Yoshi – 50.5% ; Dante – 49.5%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Yoshi



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Round 2's most debated match is also the only one where I just can't seem to make up my damned mind. On the one hand, I know Dante is (rightfully) the favorite going into the contest; on the other, I have Yoshi in my bracket, and going against one's own bracket is a decidedly difficult thing to do, especially in a match as disputed as this.

When the contest started, I felt good about having Yoshi for a few reasons. One, for as good as Dante ended up looking in the 2005 stats, the strongest opponent he's ever actually beaten is Miles "Freakin' Tails" Prower. It's not his fault for getting matched up with fodder every year, but this does he's largely untested outside his match with Vincent. On the off chance that Vincent overperformed against Crono (Advent Children, rSFF, whatever), Dante suddenly doesn't look quite as strong. Apart from Dante possibly being overrated and an unproven winner, I also felt that Yoshi was stronger than the stats have ever shown him. The poor dino; he's been in three contests and has gone out in an SFF match three times. That's just unfair. I figured that Yoshi's probably around Luigi's strength, if not a bit higher (he did beat him, after all), and that was good enough for me.

Then, of course, the two took center stage. Whereas Dante outperformed Zero by over 2%, Yoshi performed bellow expectations on Riku. Dante immediately became the favorite. The Dante supporters suddenly became much louder, bleaching their hair and shouting mind-numbingly cheesy one liners in unison. They did, apparently, want to be the ones to fill my dark soul with annoyance. Well, I guess that's that. Dante wins and proceeds to get mauled by Snake, making his fourpack look so, so bad in the process.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2006 9:48:14 PM | message detail | #311
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Actually, it really really does. Several Kingdom Hearts II characters, including Riku, Kairi, Axel, and Auron, have all obliterated the board's combined expectations. If this Riku is a good deal stronger than the Axel who broke 30% on Mega Man, then Yoshi's win looks pretty respectable. In addition, while Dante outperformed Zero by a little over 2%, Luigi cleaned Zero's clock outright. It was a result that some of us were expecting, but it was a margin of victory that hardly anyone saw coming. If Yoshi is around Luigi's strength (and, to be honest, I have yet to hear a convincing argument of why he now shouldn't be), this should be one hell of a match.

While no one can take away Dante's status as the favorite going in, no one should claim that Yoshi doesn't have a realistic shot at the win. Hell, seeing as how all of his matches have either been against fodder, wrought with SFF, or against characters who experienced incalculable off-season boosts, it can be argued that we've never gotten a clear read on Yoshi. And for me, folks, that's practically a guarantee for something wacky (and maybe a win).

My prediction: Yoshi def. Dante (51-49)



Lopen’s Analysis

I never thought this match was really in question, and I still don't think it is. Maybe it's just my Dante fanboyism coming into play, but I didn't overestimate him against Vincent last year! Okay, I did… I said he'd win, but I didn't say he'd win easily. Alright, back on topic here… looking at what Yoshi and Dante did last round, it'd be silly to say that Dante isn't looking better coming in.

Dante made it look like 2005 was legit and then some. What did Yoshi do? He did beat Riku, (more credit than I gave him, I'll admit) but he didn't exactly trounce him. My theory of Yoshi just doing well because of SFF was proven mostly wrong, but I still don't think he's everything those X-Stats say he is. Add into that the fact that Dante has beaten Yoshi every year in the X-Stats, Squall and Vincent have looked to be everything last year said they were, and Dante's looking even better to win this match with ease!

You know what they say… you can't make an omelet without beating a few eggs out of Yoshi first. Watch as Dante illustrates that principle, tonight! This poll is gettin' crazy!

Lopen's prediction: Dante with 57.35%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

YOSHI

"(Wish I could run faster.)"

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 23rd Place [26.17%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 26th Place [ 25.22%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 27th Place [26.59%]

Yoshi underperforms heavily against Riku. The question is, is it an absolutely massive KH2 boost or is a Yoshi weakness? The fact that we have to ask the question is not a good sign for Yoshi.

DANTE

"I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIIIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHTTT"

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 18th Place [25.02%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [27.32%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 23rd Place [ 25.49%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 17th Place [29.99%]

Dante overperforms notably against Hayabusa. Does this mean that Hayabusa is weaker than he appears (or SFF is to blame) or that Dante is looking stronger than ever? The fact that we have to ask the question is a very good sign for Dante.

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Yoshi: N/A
Dante: Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition (PS2)

Upcoming Releases

Yoshi: N/A
Dante: Devil May Cry 4 (PS3)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2006 9:50:04 PM | message detail | #312
I don't really want to dwell on this match. Why didn't I take Dante?! He kicks ass in all sorts of ways, is in some of the best action games this generation has to offer, has the cornball humor lines that I find absolutely hilarious, and is generally the better character and the safer pick. He looks better, has all the intangibles...Yoshi has "lol Nintendo."

Don't make me dwell on this too much longer.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Dante. I'M WORKING AGAINST MYSELF

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Dante with 53.24%.

I have no idea why I'm going high, no matter what I do Lopen's going to go higher. =(

Upset Potential: 42.5%

UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT


There's still a reason why I picked Yoshi here in the first place, darn it! After Luigi whipping up on Zero (enough for him to be projected over Dante through Hayabusa 2k5, I think), Yoshi should have this match in the bag. He beat Luigi, directly! He's always looked stronger, sans that time when he ran smack dab into the KING OF SFF. And yet...argh!

Stupid Yoshi. Why couldn't you just lose to Luigi in 2004 and make things make sense?

Upset Prediction: Yoshi with 51.01%



Guest’s Analysis - King Morgoth

Finally!
The first day the bracket came out this is the match that had sexy upset written all over it. Sure there were other good ones, but Yoshi was so far under Dante in the stats that most people would think there would be no chance Yoshi wins. Alright, I was wrong, but that one never changed in my bracket.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb5/cb542.jpg

Yoshi symbolises everything that's good in life. He's friggin' green and he's happy! What? That's not enough to win the match? Let's go with Stats then, Stats!!!

Dante
His 2k5 value: 32.73%
With a constant Ryu H.: 34.12%
With constant Terra and Zelda: 24.31% (aka lol xstats)

Yoshi
His 2k5 value: 29.01%
Through his match with Bowser: 31.91%
Through his match with Luigi: 34.40%
Through his match with Luigi with a constant Zero: 38.07%
Through a constant Riku: 26.93%

As usual, numbers can mean anything, and it comes to whether or not you'd take Dante over Zero, Yoshi over Luigi and by how much. And no matter what you think, there'll be numbers to back your argument.

So that leaves us with only ONE single solid and valid argument:
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He's green...
And he's happy...
And that's really all he'll need come tomorrow

Prediction: Yoshi with 52.76%



Crew Consensus: Another highly debated match, another split Crew decision. Yoshi is the favorite here 4-3. Will the Yosh-man come through, or is the Crew bracket losing 2 points thanks to the Dark Knight?
EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/22/2006 9:52:14 PM | message detail | #313
Like I said, if you can't see someone winning with more than 51%, it ain't happening! Yoshi's going doooooooooooown.

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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/22/2006 9:58:56 PM | message detail | #314
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/22/2006 9:59:20 PM | message detail | #315
KH disappointed. :x

Yo, might I point out that Axel is a far better character than Riku?
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The one. The only. Lady Ashe.
satai_delenn | Posted 10/22/2006 10:03:11 PM | message detail | #316
...Interesting split. The odd thing is, it seems like everyone who picked Yoshi to win did so with a feeling of "well, Dante has all the right reasons to win, but there's GOT to be a reason that I picked Yoshi." Not to say that those reasons aren't valid, it's just an interesting observation about the tone of all those Yoshi pickers' analyses...they all have words like "if" and "maybe" in them. Hmm.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/22/2006 10:14:34 PM | message detail | #317
DpOblivion's Not So Quick Analysis:

Here it is, the match I've been waiting for! Let me first apologize for not getting my analysis in earlier. I was busy playing Mario Kart 64. I was being Yoshi, if you care. Then, we played Mario Party 3. I was Yoshi. Okay, I'm not some crazy Yoshi fanboy or anything, but since the last contest, I've really grown to like him from playing Mario Kart: Double Dash. His egg rules.

Anyway, there is much evidence to say that Nintendo is absolutely hot right now. We saw Luigi beat Zero, which, I'd like to point out once more, I had in my bracket, unlike the entire Crew. Yoshi also upset Riku in the first round, but that was kind of expected. Yoshi's opponent this round is a much tougher opponent, Dante, who's Devil May Cry series is pretty damn popular.

But how would you expect someone like Dante, who has basically just appeared on one system, to beat Yoshi, who's been around since the SNES days and is a staple in the Mario lineup? I'll tell you how......wait, no, I can't, because it's not going to happen.

My vote: Yoshi
My bracket: Yoshi
My prediction: Yoshi with 53.13%

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
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Prometheus321 | Posted 10/22/2006 10:30:05 PM | message detail | #318
King Morgoth

So that leaves us with only ONE single solid and valid argument:
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He's green...
And he's happy...
And that's really all he'll need come tomorrow


You sir, are full of win and I salute you.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/22/2006 11:22:34 PM | message detail | #319
Wait KH, why the heck didnt you put Yoshi's Island 2 under upcoming releases!!??

>_________________>

*loliphuants step on KH*
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Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude!
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Lugia2 | Posted 10/23/2006 5:48:25 AM | message detail | #320
...Looks like Lopen gets smacked. Again. Nice to see another Jill/Peach match! Go Yoshi! Save my completely ruined bracket!
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Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much.
TehMissingLink | Posted 10/23/2006 1:07:37 PM | message detail | #321
I'm feeling a Crew Point on this one !!

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"Thank You Mario! But our Princess is in another castle!"
Master Moltar | Posted 10/23/2006 6:47:50 PM | message detail | #322
Solid Snake....................57.59% 78314
Squall Leonhart.............42.41% 57666
TOTAL VOTES............................135980

79.17% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Holy vote totals! Snake easily walks over Squall. Signs of a stronger Snake, or is this just more of that funky MGS-FF SFF. We'll find out soon, I guess!

Today, Yoshi is beating Dante in a close one.

KH - 8
Guest (Wigs, SilverNightmareX7, EC (2), TheRye, transience, Lady Ashe, Kleenex) - 8
Moltar - 7
Lopen - 7
HM - 6
Ulti - 5
Yoblazer - 2

KH's Snake fanboyism pulls him the point.
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Yoshi vs. Dante - Bracket: Dante - Vote: Yoshi (46/50)
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/23/2006 6:55:15 PM | message detail | #323
How is the analysis gonna work for the Royale?
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CB06 - Score: 46/50 Rank: Tied - 647th Yesterday's Pick: Snake
Today's Pick: Yoshi Tomorrow's Pick: Sora Losses: Cortana, Ganon, Zero, MC
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/23/2006 6:57:51 PM | message detail | #324
If Dante can stall until midnight, I would've tied HM for today's point.

TuRtLe
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43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1
Master Moltar | Posted 10/23/2006 8:28:21 PM | message detail | #325
Destiny Division: Round 2 - Match 43 – (1)Sora vs. (4)Gordon Freeman

Moltar’s Analysis

Sora
Round 1 – 75.61% vs. Tingle (24.39%)

Heh, Tingle nearly avoids the tripling against Sora.

Gordon
Round 1 – 58.20% vs. Phoenix (41.80%)

Gordon Freeman wins a match, yeah yeah, omgwtfbbqwutev

Ok, you know it’s bad when Gordon Freeman makes it into Round 2. Sad thing is, his game outsold Phoenix’s game by an enormous amount, and yet he still won with only 58%. Gordon doesn’t belong in Round 2. In fact, I don’t even want to analyze this match. Time to go off on a tangent with another…

Real Men, Real Snubs - Donkey Kong

He hips. He hops. He pops rhymes and he don’t stop. He’s Donkey Kong, and he’s a real man, and a snub in the 2006 Character Battle.

*Shot of DK slapping his bongos*

Donkey Kong has been a 2002 regular in these Contests, and he always seems to put on a show. In 2002, the Ape entered the field as a 4-seed, with hopes to meet his old-rival Mario in Round 3 and have a good show. However, his performances there were pathetic. 61% against Bub? 51% against Aya Brea? Who the **** are those people? This is the legend Donkey Kong we are talking about! Mario then proceeded to beat the living hell out of him in one of the earliest labeled SFF matches. Here’s hoping that 2003 would be better for the King of Swing.

*Shot of DK being pummeled by Mario*

Kong looked a little better in 2003, with a win over Lara, who didn’t look too bad in 2002. However, his Round 2 match was against Vercetti, in one of the most fun to watch matches I’ve seen. Back and forth the two went, but the Hawaiian Shirt night vote proved to be too much, and DK lost. Donkey Kong returned in 2004 to face Vivi, who many thought he would beat. Yet, the Monkeynatior fell hard against Vivi in one of the biggest Round 1 upsets of all time. Kawng was looking bad, could he turn in around in 2005? Going 50-50 with Master Chief and ending at over 30% on Base Link says yes, he could!

*Shot of DK valiantly fighting Master Chief*

But where is he now? He isn’t in this Contest, that’s for sure. Yeah, we knew DK really wasn’t that high, and that’s been confirmed by Master Chief’s loss to Sub-Zero, but DK was always one to have an interesting match. Instead, in his place, we get exciting bouts like 90% of the female matches! C’mon DK, we need you back. Make things interesting for us again..

*Shot of DK frowning in a lone spotlight*

Donkey Kong. A real man, and a real snub.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sora will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sora: 67% - Gordon: 33%



Ulti’s Analysis

First we see Gordon win a match, and now we'll probably see someone break 60% on him. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I refuse to let the tradition die!1!

Prediction: Sora with 59.99%



HM’s Analysis

Sora

Previous Matches:

Sora – 75.61% -- 93,568

Tingle – 24.39% -- 30,176

Gordon Freeman

Previous Matches:

Gordon Freeman – 58.2% -- 64,324

Phoenix Wright – 41.8% -- 46,204

HOLY CRAP GORDON FREEMAN WON A MATCH!

It’s great to see Gordon Freeman actually in the second round after, what, four years? It took him a while, but he finally caught a break. He didn’t just scrap by either, he completely rocked his match against Phoenix Wright. Unfortunately for the good Dr. Freeman, he’s up against a KH2 monster in Sora. What is fortunate about this match is getting to see TINGLE out rank Gordon Freeman – and it is going to happen.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/23/2006 8:28:53 PM | message detail | #326
Sora should have absolutely no problem dominating this match from beginning to end. He looks crazy this year and there’s no way he struggles to put up huge numbers here. Freeman’s 2005 ranking seems quite suspect after his match with Phoenix Wright, but perhaps we’ll get an idea of how far it’s off here. Again, the most important thing about this match is TINGLE > FREEMAN !!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Sora

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Sora – 76% ; Gordon Freeman – 24%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Gordon Freeman



Yoblazer’s Analysis

There really isn't too much to say about this match, other than it's the first time in over 14 billion years (the approximate age of the universe that ended about three weeks ago) that Gordon Freeman is in the second round. What a cataclysmic accomplishment, Gordy. Fortunately for him, he won't have to continue winning.

Obviously, the top seeded Sora won't be in any danger here, and coming off what looks to be a very impressive Kingdom Hearts II boost, he'll be stronger than ever. Of course, the keyblade weilder (and the KH series in general) is infamous for his inability to really destroy the weak, so that will help Gordon a bit. All in all, an easy win for Sora, but he still won't get that tripling he's been after for a few years.

My prediction: Sora def. Gordon Freeman (67-33)



Lopen’s Analysis

In Round 1, Gordon broke one of his time honored traditions. Now it's GFRW, which isn't nearly as cool. And in Round 2... he's breaking another! Why, Gordon, why? All your little quirks… they're all going away! Now what are you to us? Just that guy from Half Life. That may appease Half Life fans, but it isn't winning me over. (not yet, anyway)

Some of you might wonder what the other tradition is. The other tradition is always looking to lose with at least 40%. Yeah, because Gordon Freeman's got those wacky fanatical fans. But you know what? Those wacky fanatical fans? They love oversized keys. Oh yeah, it's true. I've researched this. So, what's going to happen is Sora's going to take just a little bit of Gordon's diehard 40% and he's going to use it to break Gordon's last tradition.

And what's Gordon without his traditions? The novelty is gone! I've got a prediction… so let's make this one official. BOLD PREDICTION: Gordon Freeman gets his lowest seed yet next character battle, 7 or less!

Lopen's Prediction: Sora with 64.79%.



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

SORA

"Maybe my memories are fake. But they're still mine, and I'm gonna be true to them."

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 39th Place [21.17%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [26.97% ]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 32nd Place [23.54% ]

Sora comes off a decently impressive performance against Tingle (*kills self*), and continues his utterly predictable run here.

GORDON FREEMAN

"..."

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 53rd Place [11.31%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 53rd Place [15.35%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 54th Place [13.40%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 40th Place [20.88%]

Last match never happened.

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Sora: Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2)
Gordon Freeman: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Sora: N/A
Gordon Freeman: N/A

The one question here is how Gordon will look...he did very well on Leon Kennedy, who is looking like a total beast right now. But he gave up 42% of the vote to ****ing Phoenix Wright. This is such a crapshoot for me, and I don't know what to say here. Um...
Master Moltar | Posted 10/23/2006 8:30:13 PM | message detail | #327
Karma Hunter's Vote: Gordon Freeman. He must win !!

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Sora with 72.58%.

This seems crazy, no? I do think Gordon Freeman would lose to Tingle, actually. Sora is going to look like a beast here, and the only thing that stops me from going higher is the reality that Sora can't blow out crap and that GF is potentially nonlinear.

Upset Potential: 1%

GORDON FREEMAN IS A LOOSE CANNON NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE COULD DO!



Guest’s Analysis - Pats_Dynasty

HOLY CRAP WTF GORDON FREEMAN WON A MATCH?!?!?!

Now that that’s out of my system, I can get to the topic at hand. Sora, arguably (and probably) the least deserving one seed of the entire contest, is matched up against Gordon Freeman, the man who has finally beaten all odds and won a match. Granted, it was against Phoenix Wright, but hey, a win’s a win.

Last round, Sora went out and disappointed, to say the least, putting up only just over 75% on Tingle. Whether the LoZ fanbase was a part of that remains to be seen, but I personally thought that it wouldn’t matter, because the KHII/Square fanbase would wipe out a good chunk of the Zelda vote, and give Sora a respectable shot at showing his true strength against Tingle. Boy was I wrong.

Gordon Freeman went and imploded the universe last round, taking out Phoenix Wright with 58.2%. This doesn’t show much other than Phoenix Wright’s status as ultra-fodder, and I wonder that now with HL2 and a maybe a good 6 seed he’d be able to crack Round Two next year.

Alas, it is not meant to be for Gordon Freeman. Although Sora was exposed against Tingle, he is still far too strong for Gordon to take out. The match will be interesting only to see if Gordon holds true to his other quirky trend: He’ll never dip below 40%.

Pats’ Bracket : Sora
Pats’ Vote: GFWATTNW (Wins All The Time Now, WHOOOO)
Pats’ Prediction: Sora with 59.99%

Sora looks weak as he is unable to crack 60% on the Freemeister.



Crew Consensus: From 42% on Leon, to 58% on Phoenix, to getting destroyed by Sora? We'll see for Freeman. Huge range on this one.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/23/2006 8:31:07 PM | message detail | #328
How is the analysis gonna work for the Royale?

No clue yet.
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/23/2006 8:39:46 PM | message detail | #329
I can't wait for Phoenix to make it into next years contest and actually do decently, while Gordon never gets in again.
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Lugia2 | Posted 10/23/2006 8:49:19 PM | message detail | #330
Speaking as a guy who doesn't like GF all that much...

Who loves the Zelda series...

I JUST CAN'T SEE GORDON LOSING TO TINGLE!

Dear lord...Anyway, I see GF getting more votes, due to Sora anti-votes, and, well...likeability.

GF is still screwed though.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/23/2006 9:04:32 PM | message detail | #331
Big Bob's completely biased and nonsensical analysis

All right, we've got Sora and Gordon Freeman. Sora failed to break 80% on what is EASILY the most hated character in the Zelda series, and Gordon finally destroyed the universe once and for all in his defeat of Phoenix Wright.

And now, it's time for Gordon to prove his worth. He beat Phoenix easily, and now he can beat Sora too. After all, last year he did well on Leon S. Kennedy, and recently Leon put Bowser to the test in a match that was much closer than expected. Plus, beating Phoenix Wright is no joke. Phoenix gets more exposure by the day, his game constantly sells out, and he has a highly anticipated sequel on the way. Half-Life 2 did wonders for Freeman.

So what does Sora have? KHII? Oh sure, just look at Aeris and Squall. THEY sure overperformed thanks to it. NOT. Sora barely tripled a joke character. He's just that pathetic.

Bob's prediction: Gordon Freeman over Sora with 59.99%

Phoenix for life!
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/23/2006 9:25:29 PM | message detail | #332
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

Haha, way to go, Yoshi! This better put me on the leaderboard. If I'm not there yet, it's going to be because of this bastard.....Gordon Freeman, who defied all stupid logic to beat Phoenix Wright. Well, Sora is no Phoenix Wright; this is going to be a beat down.

My vote: Sora
My bracket: Sora
My prediction: Sora wins with 78%

Whew, not too far out there on the prediction, I'm highest of course, but HM's got 76%. Yup, Tingle > Gordon Freeman. How scary is that?

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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/23/2006 9:26:47 PM | message detail | #333
I'm more worried about Agent 47>Gordon Freeman.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/23/2006 9:29:35 PM | message detail | #334
I can't believe HM's the only other person who expects Tingle > Freeman. Then again, it is HM, who is likely blinded by LoZ bias. But still, Tingle is from LoZ, no matter how disliked or insignifant he is.

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Pats_Dynasty | Posted 10/23/2006 9:54:50 PM | message detail | #335
Dammit Ulti, I thought I was the only one this crazy.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/23/2006 10:08:04 PM | message detail | #336
Change my pick to 59.98%.

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DpObliVion | Posted 10/23/2006 11:08:44 PM | message detail | #337
#38!

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Lopen | Posted 10/23/2006 11:12:18 PM | message detail | #338
By the way, I think Freeman would struggle quite a bit with Tingle in a match. The only reason I had Freeman getting so much is because I think his voting base is weird.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/23/2006 11:47:00 PM | message detail | #339
Yoshi vs. Dante
+7 HM
+6 Ulti
+5 Yo
+4 Guest
-1 Mo
-2 KH
-3 Lo

The Rankings (Through Yoshi vs. Dante)
1. Karma Hunter (178)
2. Master Moltar (170)
3. Heroic Mario (166)
4. UltimaterializerX (149)
5. Yoblazer (146)
6. Board 8 (140)
7. Lopen (94)

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/24/2006 3:27:42 PM | message detail | #340
Yoshi.......................50.55% 65497
Dante.....................49.45% 64072
TOTAL VOTES.................129569

31.18% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

After Yoshi's rather poor performance against Riku, I didn't think the Dino could pull it off, but he did! This match was just as even as I thought it would be pre-Contest.

Today, Freeman is doing rather well against Sora.

KH - 8
Guest (Wigs, SilverNightmareX7, EC (2), TheRye, transience, Lady Ashe, Kleenex) - 8
HM - 7
Moltar - 7
Lopen - 7
Ulti - 5
Yoblazer - 2

HM wins with the low Yoshi pick.
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cyko | Posted 10/24/2006 6:47:37 PM | message detail | #341
sorry it took so long, but this week was busier than expected. i just sent my analysis, Moltar.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/24/2006 9:13:36 PM | message detail | #342
Destiny Division: Round 2 - Match 44 – (6)Ryu vs. (2)Mega Man

Moltar’s Analysis

Ryu
Round 1 – 57.11% vs. Kratos (42.89%)

Kratos puts up a good fight against Ryu.

Mega Man
Round 1 – 69.87% vs. Axel (30.13%)

Axel likewise does very well against Mega Man.

Well, these two didn’t have impressive Round 1 performances. Yeah, we all knew Kratos was underrated, but after Leon did so well against Bowser, Ryu is looking very bad. Mega Man also failed to put up 70% on Axel, who isn’t even one of the main characters. I mean, if Axel can break 30%, what about Sora?

Let’s not get ahead though, and focus on this match. Yeah, Mega Man should win it, but we also will find out about Ryu’s value. Has he fallen even farther since 2005, or is he underrated/overrated thanks to Bowser. As for Mega Man, he’s going to need to look good here, because ahead he has Crono, Snake, and even Sora gunning for him.

I don’t think Mega Man can be connected to Zero like some people want to do (since Zero lost to Luigi, this means Mega Man is weaker too!!), but I also can’t say MM impressed me last round. According to last year’s numbers, Mega Man wins with 61%. I think he can outperform Bowser, but I also don’t think he’ll land too far from those projected numbers.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mega Man will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Ryu: 38% - Mega Man: 62%



Ulti’s Analysis

Ryu is slowly working his way through the entire Noble Nine, and he may very well break 40% on all of them. That's his shtick. Sucks that he had such a predictable path though.

Prediction: Mega Man with 58.67%



HM’s Analysis

Ryu

Previous Matches:

Ryu – 57.11% -- 66,198

Kratos – 42.89% -- 49,713

Mega Man

Previous Matches:

Mega Man – 69.87% -- 81,959

Axel – 30.13% -- 35,340

Both of these two characters weren’t able to meet expectations in the last round. Mega Man, in particular, shocked a good number of people by not even getting 70% against Axel of all characters. He was untested certainly, but it didn’t speak well of him after how many blowouts he’s able to get. On the other hand, Ryu wasn’t able to hit 60% against Kratos, but there was reason enough to suspect that would be the case after Kratos’s game sold so well and he could have be underrated last year.

I’m not sure we’ll be able to take too much away from this match unless Ryu is able to snatch over 40% of the vote. Some people have tossed around some silly Capcom SFF, but I highly doubt we see anything that suspect in this match. It should be a pretty normal match, but I’m unsure of what the general expectation is here. Ryu could possibly be overrated and Mega Man could have potentially dropped. It should be interesting to see, but the end result is Mega Man with ease.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Mega Man

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Mega Man – 62% ; Ryu – 38%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Mega Man



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Here we have a match between two of the video game industry's all-time legends. Mega Man will attempt to show us that it'll take more than an awful picture to keep him from kicking ass, and Ryu will be gunning for his fourth very respectable performance against his fourth different Noble 9 opponent.

This match's result is not at all in question, but the margin of victory certainly is. On the one hand, Ryu has faced top-notch competition in the past, including Samus, Snake, Sonic, and a Bowser which probably needed some drug testing. Despite the caliber of his opponents, Ryu has not once failed to break 40%. He is an ultra-consistent performer, and it's very difficult to picture him getting destroyed by all but the most powerful of contest performers (i.e. Link and Cloud).
Master Moltar | Posted 10/24/2006 9:14:10 PM | message detail | #343
On the other hand, Mega Man is extremely good at beating people up. In fact, the only time he has beaten a non-Noble 9 opponent with less than 60% was his 2004 match against Zero, and that was an SFF match (where spooky **** tends to go down) at a time when Zero was actually good. Simply put, the Blue Bomber knows how to win and win big.

Obviously, these conflicting opinions make it tough for me to confidently predict a percentage. While it's very difficult for me to picture Ryu not hitting 40% for the first time ever (especially with the aid of that terrible MM picture), it's also difficult to imagine Mega Man failing to outperform Bowser and not hitting 60%. So, just how does one satisfy both sides of the argument? With a 60/40 prediction, of course! See! Math good!

My prediction: Mega Man def. Ryu (60-40)



Lopen’s Analysis

So, let's do the rundown here. What we've seen is Mega Man… is a Mario character. Given his weird little display against Yoshi, we know they share the same blood. However, what we've also seen… is that Ryu too, is a Mario Bros. character. "What?", you say? It's all true… remember Ryu got 45% on Sonic in 2004. In 2005 he barely scraped up 40% against Bowser. Now we all know that Sonic would beat Bowser handily! So what does this mean? That's right, Super Mario Bros. series SFF!

Still doubting? How about the new Mario Party 9? I've got the scoop on this one:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/NeoX-Death/MarPart9.jpg

As we can see from how well Ryu's doing, he's clearly not just making some random cameo appearance. 2 Shines? Beating Mario and Peach at their own game? Oh yeah, believe it. Ryu's been doing this for years, and it shows. Mega Man, on the other hand isn't doing so well… but he's in the game, at least! Even if he's a recent addition, he's a Mario character too!

Okay… that wasn't all just for my amusement. I really think we could see some weird results here. I'm not sure where the "Super Mario Brothers SFF" goes in this one, though. However, I want to say Mega Man. It seems like that should be the case. Of course, Ryu's higher on the pecking order than Yoshi, so it won't be too bad. But rest assured, Ryu is better than this match result will make him look!

Lopen's prediction: Mega Man with 63.18%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

MEGA MAN

"You can't beat me with fake power!"

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 3rd Place [42.91%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 4th Place [38.60%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 6th Place [35.99%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 7th Place [35.55%]

Mega Man has a tough fight (well, for a fodder blowout) with Axel last round, though Axel's strength has yet to be determined. He's certainly looking to impress here, that's for sure.

RYU

"Seek an opponent who is your equal. Only then can you improve."

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 10th Place [34.62%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 18th Place [29.70%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 16th Place [29.84%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 25th Place [27.47%]

Ryu comes off a good win against a surprisingly tough Kratos...and he keeps up his streak of winning a match every year (now being the weakest character to do so). His road ends here, of course. It's so odd how he's only made the Sweet Sixteen twice in his long contest career. o.O
Master Moltar | Posted 10/24/2006 9:15:09 PM | message detail | #344
Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Mega Man: N/A
Ryu: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Mega Man: N/A
Ryu: N/A

This is a fitting match. Both characters are Capcom, both get by nowadays with nothing but the occasional low-budget rehash, and as such both character's popularities seem resistant to change. Mega Man seems to have more longevitity here though, and I'm feeling a dominant match on his part, match picture be damned. Nothing else to say, though I'm hoping Ryu can perhaps redeem himself here. I'm just not counting on it.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Mega Man. Metal Blades > Hadoken (which MM has anyway so nyah)

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Mega Man with 65.48%.

Pure stats here. Putting Ryu at where his match with Kratos suggests, using Sora 2k4 to adjust Kratos. Then use a constant MM and there ya go.

Upset Potential: 0%

Ryu's peak has come and gone here, and only a true revival of the SF series will ever bring him back.



Guest’s Analysis - cyko

so, for a good portion of my work day today, i tried to come up with something clever or witty to say about this match. i really did. you know - something about how this analysis sucks and is now about trains or Guitar Hero 2 (which comes out in 2 weeks!! you better buy it!! </shameless plug>) or something like that. but i've got nothing. see? this match is so boring that even the analysis is boring. the outcome of this match has been sealed since the moment the bracket was released. *yawn*

i suppose there is still the matter of ho much Mega Man wins by. was Ryu and the Dream Division actually overrated last year? or has Kratos improved in popularity? has Mega Man lost some of his popularity? or is Axel surprisingly strong? will there be some kind of Capcom SFF? old-school SFF? cheesy anime SFF? "i like both of these guys" SFF? OSFTSTDNGCMCTFIMVC SFF?!?!

meh.

cyko's vote - Mega Man
cyko's bracket - Mega Man
cyko's prediction - Mega Man with 64.59%




Crew Consensus: Mega Man with the win. Some are betting on Ryu doing better than the stats indicate, but the majority has Mega Man redeeming himself here.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/24/2006 9:19:38 PM | message detail | #345
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis

Welcome to my analysis, I'm-on-the-leaderboard version! After 2 debatable matches to open the 2nd round of the male bracket, we have 2 consecutive snore-fests. By the way, a lot of people hate the pic because of the version of Mega Man used; but I personally think the pic is one of the best CJay has ever done. It looks very artistic, and with a much better background than a damned brick wall. See, with these boring matches, I get going on these stupid tangents.......

My vote: Umm......*flips a coin* Ryu
My bracket: Mega Man
My prediction: Mega Man with 59%

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/24/2006 9:20:32 PM | message detail | #346
I see MM with 63% here... though I could definitely see MM doing better.

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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/24/2006 9:21:36 PM | message detail | #347
Axel isn't surprisingly strong. Anybody who has played KH2, and to a lesser extent, CoM should have expected that result against Mega Man.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/24/2006 9:24:57 PM | message detail | #348
Big Bob's completely biased and nonsensical analysis

Let me say this right now: Ryu is a HACK. He fell last year, and he's going to fall even more this year. He let Kratos break 40% on him. Kratos is a newb. He's been in two contests and lost two matches. He may have a sequel coming out, but it's going to be on an obsolete system by the time it's out. And Ryu hasn't had anything in forever. Mega Man, however, keeps pumping out games and stretching across systems. He beat Axel, and let's face it: Axel is tough. Riku did well on Yoshi, and Sora is beating a pumped-up Gordon Freeman. For Mega Man to get 70% on him is amazing. And unlike Ryu, Axel isn't a has-been.

Bob's prediction: Mega Man with 80%.
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/24/2006 9:28:35 PM | message detail | #349
I'm feeling Big Bob's prediction right now. I really am, y'know?
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trannyscience | Posted 10/24/2006 9:31:22 PM | message detail | #350
I pray that's a joke analysis.
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