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Fall 2006 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2

DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 1:37:28 AM | message detail | #201
Wow, what a match. This is awesome.

?Wow, that's some wall that everyone's put up. Even DP and Tranny put up nice walls and they're not even part of the crew! Too bad not every match is like this one.

Yeah, what a match.......even three paragraphs from me is a lot.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Lugia2 | Posted 10/7/2006 6:29:55 AM | message detail | #202
Still only 2000 ahead! Go Ganon!

Well, I'm glad this isn't boring, anyway. I worried that it was, like the "debatable" matches...Looks like Sonic may well get a free ride to Round 3.

But then, only HM truely believed that was going to happen anyway. And he might not, considering that TP might not be out by then. And that TP isn't exactly walloping Vincent here...
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VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!!
Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 3:56:34 PM | message detail | #203
Sonic the Hedgehog......80.75% 87757
CATS...............................19.25% 20925
TOTAL VOTES..........................108682

96.38% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Sonic has no problems breaking 80% on CATS. Not bad for the Blue Blur...

Today, Vincent is beating Ganon in a close match.

Lopen - 7
Moltar - 5
KH - 5
Ulti - 4
HM - 3
Yoblazer - 2
Guest (Wigs) - 1

Yo and I had the highest Sonic picks, so yay!
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Ganondorf vs. Vincent - Bracket: Ganondorf - Vote: Ganondorf (24/25)
DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 3:58:31 PM | message detail | #204
The whole crew underestimated Sonic.....I'm disappointed in you all.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 4:00:10 PM | message detail | #205
I'm thinking I'm gonna be riding high in yo's system for a long time after this one...
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*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 4:15:36 PM | message detail | #206
I suppose Lopen can start laughing at everyone for using "Who wins: Dante or Auron?" as justification for picking Ganondorf while Lopen used it to justify Vincent...
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Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship:
Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna
DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 6:50:35 PM | message detail | #207
Looks like Ulti's got the point today.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 6:51:32 PM | message detail | #208
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 6:51:56 PM | message detail | #209
aw yeah, 0-1 in my analysis crew career!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 9:44:20 PM | message detail | #210
Blast Division: Round 1 - Match 27 – (3)Kirby vs. (6)The Prince of Persia

Moltar’s Analysis

Kirby
Game/Series Known From: Kirby
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 17th (25.54%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 25th (26.34%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 30th (20.62%) - Adjusted Value: 22nd (26.61%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 12th (32.06%)
Seed in 2002: 14
Seed in 2003: 3
Seed in 2004: 5
Seed in 2005: 1
Lost in 2002 to Jill in Round 1
Lost in 2003 to Alucard in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Squall in the Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Bowser in Round 3

Another of my favorite’s steps into action!

Prince
Game/Series Known From: Prince of Persia

And the Prince makes the field!

So…unless the Prince is like…a beast, Kirby should have this match easily. The more Kirby wins by, the better, as he needs to look good going into next Round. And…*static*…winner of…*more static*…the match is…*connection cuts off, screen goes black*

Donkey Kong: Yo, turn dem lights on!

*lights go on*

DK: That’s better. This is your homeboy, Donkey Kong, taking over this analysis. Change ya pants now, because its only gonna get better. I got a new “wreck-cad” dropping this Tuesday from my Donkey Beatz label. “Bananas and Grapes” Pick it up. I’m gonna let ya hear the hot new single too. Check it, Nintendo 4 lyfe!

*music starts*

They see me rollin'
They hatin'
I’m blowin'
And tryin to catch me ridin Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
My powers so wild
I'm suckin’
They hopin'
That they gon' catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby

(Kirby)
Yo it’s me, big Kirby, on the mic
Gonna tell a little story of what’s it’s like
To be me, a pink ball named Kirby
In a world that’s controlled by that damn Sony

I’m rollin’ with my boyz in the neighboorhood
Life was so sweet and it all was good
So then one of Sony’s reps comes up to me
I could tell that the bastard worked for Kutaragi
I say, “Shouldn’t you be working on the PS3?
Or trying to move more of them PSPs?” (cuz DS is killin’)
He says, “Shut up, little toy, you’re coming with me.
It’d be best if you come quiet, and peacefully.”

So he thinks that just because my skin is pink
I don’t have no rights, and not allowed to think.
Just because I really like to blow and suck
I come around the city and I’m out of luck.
A Nintendo character can’t be that way
Well, I don’t give a **** ‘bout what society say.
I gotta go around and try to be me,
But it’s hard out there for a Kirby…

They see me rollin'
They hatin'
I’m blowin'
And tryin to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
My powahs so wild
I'm suckin'
They hopin'
That they gon' catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby

(DK)
Man, someone’s gotta go and help a brotha out.
Nintendo pride, yeah I know what that’s all about.
Gotta’ show my love, for the Big Ol’ N
And show you why they’re gonna win.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 9:44:42 PM | message detail | #211
Sony may be leadin’ now but they full of ****.
Going into a launch without a big name hit?
And only 5-thou units? Like Luthor, that’s WROOONG!
Just as lame as a gaming reference in a hip-hop song. (lolz)
And they supposed to be appealin’ to all the gamers,
Not with crap like 599 and RIIIDGE RACER
Microsoft’s also gunning, if you didn’t know
But no one really cares until the next Halo.

The system you should really get is the Wii
Fun for all the guys, girls, and the family
And you can play games starring as me,
Or my boy, the puff-ball named Kirby (Hiiii!)
Nintendo is the best, Nintendo is the greatest!
If you don’t like them, you’re as bad as a rapist!
A real heel, you don’t even deserve that feel
Nintendo and the Kirbies, keepin’ it real.

They see me rollin';
They Haitian
Samoan
And tryin to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
My powers so wild
I'm suckin'
They hopin'
That they gon' catch me ridin' Kirby.
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby.
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby.
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby
Tryin' to catch me ridin' Kirby.

Aww yeah, DK…Kirby…in the house! Donkey Beatz! Yeeah…more random shouting at the end of the song!…Because that’s how real Kirbies do…Random Shouting…aww yeah…….Wait, you say we need one more verse?….Why?…The real song has another verse?….Man, screw that….This isn’t even a real parody….I only heard the original song like…once, I don’t know it…Yeah, that’s why the rhymes and flow don’t match up with the original…I’m too lazy to listen to the real version….That damn song is still playing in the background?…I need to go on….Nintendo!….Yeah!…What?….You said Ridin Dirty parodies are like.…so 2 months old?….Aww crap….Well, if my match came sooner, it wouldn’t be outdated…..damn female bracket….you know, they killed my father…..violated my mother….kidnapped my brother….female bracket….cause of all the war and violence….damn it….Man, someone kill that beat….I’m tired of all this….Kirby, out!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Kirby will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Kirby: 68% - The Prince: 32%



Ulti’s Analysis

I think it's safe to just hand Prince the 2005 Kratos value and be done with it. It's not like this match is in question, though it'll shed light on whether or not Kirby was overrated last year.

Prediction: Kirby with 70.05%



HM’s Analysis

The match picture for this match-up is absolutely hilarious – extremely cute v. extremely dark! As it turns out, the extremely cute one is looking to win with ease! Kirby comes into this contest looking to solidify his amazing near-elite strength the showed off last year while The Prince is looking to just show he’s made of something other than fodder.

I’m expecting Kirby to come into this match and show that his strength last year was any type of fluke; he’ll be dominating this match from beginning to end. There is some question about the Dream Division being overrated or Kirby getting rSFF on Bowser, but hopefully with a nice sized blowout, all of that can be put to rest.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Kirby

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Kirby – 72% ; Prince of Persia – 28%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Kirby
Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 9:45:25 PM | message detail | #212
Yoblazer’s Analysis

Even though most of them are being thrown to the wolves, I'm glad Leonhart's rally tournament got quite a few new faces into the contest. My favorite of these first-timers is undoubtedly The Prince of Persia, and it's just faaabulous to see him here. Unfortunately, he's up against a fluffy, puffy, chewy, gooey force that's just far too strong in Kirby. I'll be happy if The Prince can break 30%, but I doubt he'll be able to do much better.

My prediction: Kirby def. The Prince of Persia (69-31)



Lopen’s Analysis

This going to be brief... I kinda forgot about it. Anyway, for this match, Kirby's gotta get more on the Prince of Persia than Zero got on Lloyd Irving, or I'm not feeling the Kirby > Zero pick I made. Well, I guess it's possible Prince of Persia > Lloyd, but somehow I don't think so! ToS did well on the GotY polls… and Prince of Persia games didn't. I know the GotY polls are unreliable… but PoP did so bad in em that I can't take the Prince seriously.

Well, maybe they didn't do quite as bad as I remember. I'm going to be honest here, I don't care enough to check. But, I'm giving this match the dignity of a response, like it deserves!

Sorry, EC, I know I just dissed your man by saying Lloyd > him. But it's not like you read these anyway! (You should, though!)

Lopen's prediction: Kirby with 74.07%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

KIRBY

"Haiii!"

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 17th Place [25.54%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 25th Place [25.49%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 22nd Place [26.61%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 13th Place [32.06%]

Hey, Kirby! Speaking of Kirby, that's another candidate for Board 8's favorite character, although that's really a byproduct of ol' ertyu than anything else. The dum pink ball had a great run through last year's bracket, stunning Tidus (and the board) before getting dangerously close to a Bowser that ended up equaling Snake in the stats. Kirby has gone from perennial midcarder to near-elite...perhaps. This year is his chance to prove it, and it starts with this match. WOO KIRBY

THE PRINCE OF PERSIA

"Most people think time is like a river, that flows swift and sure in one direction. But I have seen the face of time and I can tell you -- they are wrong."

N/A

If ever there were a newcomer that deserved to kick ass in this bracket, the Prince of Persia would be it. Witty, charming, badass, with incredibly awesome swordplay and acrobatics along with the power to control time, the Prince of Persia has it all. Sadly, he's just going to be trying to not embarrass himself in this match -- and with the blowouts we've seen happening routinely in this contest, I'm very scared for him.

WOO THE PRINCE OF PERSIA

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Kirby: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trailer (Internet)

Prince of Persia: Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones

Upcoming Releases

Kirby: Super Smash Brothers Brawl (WII)

Prince of Persia: N/A

Ugh. This one is going to be ugly, I can just feel it. Man, I would give ANYTHING for the Prince to win here. All my upsets could go up in smoke, Smurf could win the contest, even Snake could lose to Squall (pfft he'll be back better than ever after MGS4 and SSBB).
Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 9:45:43 PM | message detail | #213
But sadly, PoP has no chance here. Even if Kirby is vastly overrated (a possibility), I wouldn't take the puffball to lose to, say, Ryu -- and if he did it would be by very little. Ryu beat the hell out of Kratos even with the God of War doing better than expected, and Kratos is just about PoP's ceiling.

Karma Hunter's Vote: The Prince of Persia. And I'd do it again if I got the chance !!

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Kirby with 65.8%.

I fully expect to lose this point handily. I'll be dumbfounded if I'm not the low pick.

Upset Potential: 0%

There's always rewind though, right?



Guest’s Analysis - Explicit Content

At first glance this match may appear to be more obvious than that 3 year old cold sore on KH's lip, roughly the size of thejp, but oh sir, you would undoubtedly be wrong about that one. "But Kirby got 48% on Bowser!" you say, yeah, that's what she said. . A wise man once said "wat ever kirby es dum neway your just a fanboy neway," and he clearly knew what he was talking about. But enough about Kirby, because really, who cares for than androgynous pink ball of matter?

The Prince of Persia - The Man, The Myth, The Sex Icon. When you're such a badass you don't even need a name, you know you're going to kick some serious ass, take a name or two even. Did you know according to the 2000 census, Persian men have the second biggest wang size out of all races? Yeah, I bet you didn't, you ignorant buffoon. The men want him, and the women want to be him, and when you're on a site that has the sausage fest we do, the former is the Prince's key to victory. Who doesn't go to bed at night dreaming of the Prince's silky, flowing hair? His rippled chest? His, well you get the idea, the man is sexy. I know what you're thinking to yourself right now "Could this be the first 100% victory we've ever seen in these contests?!" unfortunately not, you see, the only person who would dare vote against the Prince is those dirty commie bastards. You're not a commie, are you? Well if you don't want to be labeled as an American hating democratic girlie man, I think you know where your vote better be going. I'll keep this short, because honestly, why bother taking for an hour about this match when Kirby is six feet under before the match has even begun.

EC's Prophetic Prediction: The Prince of Persia with 87% of the vote.


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What do you mean I can't pick the prince to win the match? Oh I'm onto your games Moltar, you're just jealous that the Persians have eclipsed African Americans in wang size. Oh you're one sick puppy.

EC's Remarkable Revised Prediction: Kirby with 62% of the vote.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 9:48:01 PM | message detail | #214
KH = Dumbfounded
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Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship:
Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/7/2006 9:48:02 PM | message detail | #215
I fully expect to lose this point handily. I'll be dumbfounded if I'm not the low pick.

>_>

Also, Moltar wins the internet.

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Z1mZum won the Guru Contest. I picked Pokemon over Metroid, GTA over Warcraft, Halo over CV, Street Fighter over RE, and FF over Zelda.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 9:50:32 PM | message detail | #216
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

If the Prince wins this match, I will do a backflip. I'm not too worried about having to show off my terrible athletic skill though, unfortunately. Kirby sucks, and The Prince of Persia kicks ass. But that's just one man's opinion, not the entire voting base's.

My vote: The Prince of Persia
My bracket: Kirby
My prediction: Kirby with 65%

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 9:51:30 PM | message detail | #217
Saying Kirby sucks is merely descriptive, not derogatory.
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Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship:
Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna
DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 9:51:40 PM | message detail | #218
It's okay Moltar, I'm low pick! I guess I'm banking too heavily on anti-Kirby....

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
DpObliVion | Posted 10/7/2006 9:52:27 PM | message detail | #219
Saying Kirby sucks is merely descriptive, not derogatory.

Uhhh.....yeah.....that's it...yeah, I was just talking about them, I wasn't showing any bias or anything. Yeah!

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:52:10 PM | message detail | #220
Of course, I completely forget the insanity of EC is on this particular match as well. Trying to go low for Prince here is like when I was trying to go high for Dante in his match -- it just didn't work! =(
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*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/8/2006 10:58:26 AM | message detail | #221
Of course, I completely forget the insanity of EC is on this particular match as well. Trying to go low for Prince here is like when I was trying to go high for Dante in his match -- it just didn't work! =(

Insane? OR ABOUT TO WIN BOARD 8 IT'S SECOND MATCH BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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I love bananas.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2006 11:06:43 AM | message detail | #222
I love going with predictions that seem way under or over exaggerated when I make them, and then they turn out good. Damn it, EC......oh well, at least I beat the main crew.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
WarThaNemesis | Posted 10/8/2006 11:13:41 AM | message detail | #223
Oh damn, I so want Vincent/Sonic or Squall/Snake, preferably Squal/Snake >_>
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War13104 had something weak beating something strong and he looks smarter than you or something - TessaTestarossa
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 12:02:05 PM | message detail | #224
Ganondorf.....................47.41% 60685
Vincent Valentine..........52.59% 67321
TOTAL VOTES.......................128006

39.39% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Ganon looked like he was going to keep it interesting, but Vincent was just too much for the King of Evil. Still, as least we know Ganon is very strong, and I'm happy with that. Only 39% of the brackets saw this coming.

Today, Prince is doing very well against Kirby.

Lopen - 7
Moltar - 5
KH - 5
Ulti - 4
HM - 3
Guest (Wigs, SilverNightmareX7) - 2
Yoblazer - 2

Woah, the Guests were actually able to get another point?
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Kirby vs. The Prince - Bracket: Kirby - Vote: Kirby (24/26)
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/8/2006 4:21:41 PM | message detail | #225
Guest for two in a row baby!

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Portugal. The Man
Cheer Up Emo Kids
Gaddswell | Posted 10/8/2006 4:26:06 PM | message detail | #226
Guest (EC) is dead on!

Kirby 62% 58922
The Prince of Persia 38% 36117
TOTAL VOTES 95039
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By the time we localize the programs, kids don’t even know they’re from Japan any more. - 4Kids CEO Al Kahn
transience | Posted 10/8/2006 4:28:15 PM | message detail | #227
yoblazer is so screwed
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:34:46 PM | message detail | #228
I wonder where Draco is...

Ahh well, 30 minutes and Luigi/Zero is up in the air for anyone to do.
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Kirby vs. The Prince - Bracket: Kirby - Vote: Kirby (24/26)
Draco1214 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:36:04 PM | message detail | #229
I thought I sent you mine a while back over AIM.
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Character Battle V Score - 25/26 points
Current Prediction - Kirby vs. The Prince of Persia
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:39:23 PM | message detail | #230
I don't recall you doing so...and if you did, I would have put in with the rest of the write-ups right away.

Or maybe I'm stupid and forgot to save it. Can you resend it then?
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Kirby vs. The Prince - Bracket: Kirby - Vote: Kirby (24/26)
Draco1214 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:40:57 PM | message detail | #231
Sure thing.
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Character Battle V Score - 25/26 points
Current Prediction - Kirby vs. The Prince of Persia
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:56:47 PM | message detail | #232
Blast Division: Round 1 - Match 28 – (2)Luigi vs. (7)Zero

Moltar’s Analysis

Luigi
Game/Series Known From: Super Mario
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 30th (25.24%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 41st (16.62%) - Adjusted Value: 30th (22.96%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 20th (28.70%)
Seed in 2003: 3
Seed in 2004: 4
Seed in 2005: 2
Lost in 2003 to Squall in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Yoshi in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Tifa in Round 2

Mario’s flamboyant brother returns!

Zero
Game/Series Known From: Mega Man X
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 14th (33.28%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 10th (28.50%) - Adjusted Value: 11th (31.67%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 18th (29.41%)
Seed in 2003: 7
Seed in 2004: 4
Seed in 2005: 3
Lost in 2003 to Sonic in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Mega Man in Round 3
Lost in 2005 to Mario in Round 3

Mega Man v 2.343 is back as well.

Another match that is too big for Round 1. Instead, this time its between two Top 20 characters, and not two top 15’s. Who’s going to win? I’ll tell you…

First, look at the 2005 rankings for them. Luigi’s best year and Zero’s worst. It’s hard to see Luigi going from 45% on Yoshi to 47% on Tifa. Yet he did it…With Zero, it’s hard to see him going from 44% on Mega Man to 37% on Mario. So where am I going with this.

Luigi may not be underrated, since it had been a while since we got a good read on him, but Zero? Perhaps he is. It might be just me, but Zero’s numbers on Mario just seem…low. He still ranks above Luigi, but I still think he should be a little higher.

Of course, Luigi has NintendoFAQs and the high ground (er…seed) in his corner, but come on, before 2005, Zero would have been the obvious favorite to win. Luigi should do well, but I don’t think Zero has fallen enough to lose this match. I also don’t think Luigi has gained enough to win. His 2005 number just doesn’t settle with me.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Zero will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Luigi: 46% - Zero: 54%



Ulti’s Analysis

Zero is the Xst favorite in something like a 53-47 win, but everyone already knows that. Though for those who need a reason, Zero's performance on Sonic >>> Tifa's.

That said, 2-7 and NintendoFAQs may very well put Luigi into this match. Whether or not he'll win remains to be seen, but I have faith in Zero pulling this one out. And for the record, I think Luigi is the bigger threat to Zero in this fourpack then Kirby is.

Prediction: Zero with 52.25%



HM’s Analysis

Look at this – two debated matches in one division! Although most people feel this match is clearly in favor of Zero, or at least people are confident in Zero, I’m not so certain that he’s got what it takes to win here. That’s right – I’m going with the upset of Luigi over Zero. There is a pretty clear explanation for why this is the case, too.

There has been much argument surrounding Zero’s value last year in the 2005 stats – some citing that he was underrated due to Mario/Zero SFF – but the reasoning behind it is rather nonsensical. I’m not sure how Mario is supposed to SFF Zero when Mega Man couldn’t even do it. This came up entirely because Zero apparently cannot drop, which in itself is just a lame thought process; characters rise and drop every year without reason.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:58:34 PM | message detail | #233
So without Zero being underrated, this match looks very good for Luigi. Right now, Zero is projected to win this match with 51.20%. That alone is enough to heavily consider Luigi in this match-up, especially when “NintendoFAQs” in the plumber’s corner, but there’s even more in his favor! New Super Mario Bros. recently released on the Nintendo DS in May. As it turns out, Luigi was actually playable in the game – and that should be common knowledge by now. Sure, his role was nothing out of the ordinary, but the fact that you could play as him in single player is bound to give him a nice boost, along with the fact that another new Mario game released.

Even more interesting is the jump in DS ownership since last year. Before the 2005 contest, DS ownership was at 33%; before the 2006 contest, DS ownership was at an incredible 55%. It’s pretty clear that the DS Lite, along with the appealing DS library, convinced a number of gamers to jump to Nintendo’s hottest new system. And even better, New Super Mario Bros. has become an instant hit since releasing in may by selling over 4 million copies worldwide and over 1 million copies in America. Its presence should be clearly felt here as it’s the latest Mario game out. There’s also some slight benefit of this site heavily shifting its preference toward Wii, which helps out Luigi more than Zero easily.

I think Luigi heads into this match with a lot in his corner and a lot of reason to take home a victory. Some doubt Luigi’s strength last year while others think Zero’s impressive contest history is enough to secure him a win – but I think both are foolish to put faith in. In my bracket, I originally had Luigi until I was convinced that Zero’s impressive history – keyword – was going to give him enough to win. I have since wised up. This match is certainly not out of his reach, and he’s clearly the favorite heading in, but I’m willing to put my Crew points on the line for this one. GO LUIGI!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Zero

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Luigi – 51.2% ; Zero – 48.8%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Luigi



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Here's our third of three highly disputed first round matches. Before the contest started, many Board 8ers were banking on the Luigi upset because they perceived that Nintendo would be even stronger than year than they were in 2005. While I was one of the proponents of this theory, so far, that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case. It may be a case of weird match-ups (Samus) or a big KH/Square boost (Yoshi, Ganondorf), but Nintendo hasn't really lived up to my lofty expectations through the contest's first four weeks.

If Riku can keep it very respectable with Yoshi and Vincent can beat Ganon, I really don't see much hope for Luigi here. Obviously, Zero isn't Square, but he's still one of the most proven upper midcard guys we have. I don't care if it was a few years ago; hitting the mid and upper 40s on Mega Man and Sonic is quite a feat, and it's one I don't see Luigi equaling anytime soon. Really, this guy was so good in every one of his matches pre-Mario, and had he done like 2% better against the Italian tank, this wouldn't be debated at all. Considering 2K5 Mario was a freak, I think it's only fair to give Zero the benefit of the doubt at least once before calling him an overrated fraud. He's certainly earned it.

I think Luigi may be strong enough to make this closer than his match against Tifa, but I can't see him giving his uber badass opponent a scare.

My prediction: Zero def. Luigi (53-47)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:59:04 PM | message detail | #234
Lopen’s Analysis

Alright, let's face it: Had this match taken place last year, there wouldn't be any debate at all. None. Zero would be the huge favorite, and with good reason. Look at what Zero has done over the years: 48% on Sonic, 44% on Mega Man, resounding victories over solid mid-carders like Tommy Vercetti and Scorpion. What had Luigi done? Smashed fodder, got "IT'S OVER"ed by Squall, got kicked in the face by Yoshi. Nothing near what Zero did.

Last year, Luigi looked better, much better. He thrashed KOS-MOS and put up a decent little struggle against Tifa, who did alright against Sonic. (but not nearly as well as Zero did) But did he look better than Zero? That's debatable. Lloyd Irving, his second victim, is probably only high fodder… but Ryu Hayabusa is a solid mid-carder that'd probably beat KOS-MOS with relative ease. And 37% on Mario isn't that bad considering Mario's unfound stash of performance enhancing mushrooms he used last year.

So, despite Luigi looking to be a threat to Zero last year according to those "X-Stats", I'm just not feeling the upset potential. Now, Kirby, on the other hand… looked better than Zero last year… ho ho ho… *ahem*. Oh, and, you've gotta believe that any SFF in this match-up goes to Zero, considering Mega Man himself couldn't even pull any on him… whereas Mega Man destroyed Yoshi with it. I mean, I had a little doubt that Mega Man and Zero were Mario characters before, but Yoshi still managing to beat Riku this year makes me think it's probably the case. And of course, that opens the gates to Mario/Zero SFF! Yeeaahh!

Lopen's Prediction: Zero with 56.75%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

LUIGI

"Marioooooooooooo!"

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [24.43%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [22.96%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [28.70%]

Donkey Kong is Nintendo's biggest choker, but he's far from their biggest disappointment. No, that 'honor' goes to Luigi, a character that has never made it past the second round despite often *very* favorable seeding, and only recently has made his claim to be a legitimate contender in these things. Gone are the days of perennial midcardership, being doomed to being blown out worse than Jill Valentine and embarrassed by Yoshi!

...or so we hope. WOO LUIGI

ZERO

"I will never die."

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 14th Place [33.28%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 11th Place [33.96%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 19th Place [29.41%]

The original Noble Nine breaker (well, the one who hasn't turned out to be vastly overrated) is back again, and while not given very favorable seeding, would historically be the vast favorite to take this fourpack.

...how different NintendoFAQs makes things. Today Zero is looking to regain some of that glory that was tarnished when Mario blew past him a little *too* easily in last year's Sweet Sixteen. I say he'll get it! Um yeah WOO ZERO

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Luigi: New Super Mario Brothers (DS)

Zero: Mega Man ZX (DS)

Upcoming Releases

Luigi: Super Smash Brothers Brawl (WII)

Zero: N/A

At the time of writing, I have not seen the results of Vincent/Ganondorf. So keep in mind that this analysis will likely sound completely laughable in light of those results.

Anywho, I'm not really scared for Zero in this matchup, Hayabusa or no. I'm all statted out from Ganon/Vince, so I'll just say this -- I can't see GameFAQs preferring Luigi to Zero.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:59:35 PM | message detail | #235
Although if Luigi does win here, I'll consider it really bad for Mega Man in his inevitable match against Snake. The MM series will really have had to lost a step for Zero to falter here.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Zero. Because beam sabers > vacuum cleaners

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Zero with 54.6%.

Random picks FTW? I hope I'm not on a losing streak by the time I get back. :(

Upset Potential: 35%

UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT


I'm not so arrogant as to not see the stat upset in all this. But I just can't believe it. Still...

Upset Prediction: Luigi with 52.38%



Guest’s Analysis - Draco1214

Past Contest Performances (credit goes to MMXCalibur’s site):

(2) Luigi
Summer 2003:
Northern Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Ratchet, 70550 [74.54%] - 24099 [25.46%]
Northern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (6) Squall, 46232 [39.79%] - 69958 [60.21%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [24.43%]

Summer 2004:
Hyrule Round 1 --- Defeated (13) Pac Man, 51008 [67.73%] - 24299 [32.27%]
Hyrule Quarterfinal --- Lost to (5) Yoshi, 34382 [45.52%] - 41151 [54.48%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [22.96%]*
*was behind Link/Yoshi SFF in 2004

Summer 2005:
Chaos Round 1 --- Defeated (7) KOS-MOS, 70232 [66.00%] - 36187 [34.00%]
Chaos Semifinals --- Lost to (3) Tifa, 47705 [46.64%] - 54588 [52.26%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [28.70%]

(7) Zero
Summer 2003:
Eastern Round 1 --- Defeated (10) Scorpion, 70885 [62.84%] – 41916 [37.16%]
Eastern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (2) Sonic the Hedgehog, 47261 [47.66%] – 51903 [52.34%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 14th Place [33.28%]

Summer 2004:
20XX Round 1 --- Defeated (13) Protoman, 58317 [71.72%] - 22993 [28.28%]
20XX Quarterfinal --- Defeated (5) Tommy Vercetti, 49875 [61.84%] - 30775 [38.16%]
20XX Semifinal --- Lost to (1) Mega Man, 36800 [43.99%] - 46849 [56.01%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 11th Place [33.96%]

Summer 2005:
Mushroom Round 1 --- Defeated (6) Ryu Hayabusa, 57507 [63.00%] - 33771 [37.00%]
Mushroom Semifinal --- Defeated (2) Lloyd Irving, 65557 [73.25%] - 23938 [26.75%]
Mushroom Final --- Lost to (1) Mario, 39856 [37.14%] - 67452 [62.86%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 19th Place [29.41%]*
*possible Mario/Zero SFF. Likely higher up in the stats.

Looking at their track records only, Zero seems like the obvious choice. After all, Zero’s put up more impressive numbers than Luigi, and against tougher opponents to boot. In 2003, Zero blew away Scorpion before putting up over 47% against Sonic. Luigi, however, was a character people had high expectations for and ended up flopping miserably, failing to break 40% on the “massively hated” Squall Leonhart. In 2004, Zero was expected to get killed by Mega Man thanks to SFF. He responds by not only breaking 40%, but actually outperforming Snake, a noble-niner! In contrast, Luigi finds yet another way to bomb as many people expected him to SFF Yoshi or at least keep it close. In the end, Luigi rolled over and died, letting the lovable green dinosaur score 55% on him.

However, in 2005, Luigi decided that he was tired of his stigma as the forgotten brother of Mario and wanted some of the spotlight. In a match many claimed would be close, Luigi exceeded expectations and nearly doubled KOS-MOS after her new game came out and made her look like fodder in the process. While he did end up losing a somewhat debated match against Tifa, Luigi went out in style, scoring over 47% on the popular FF7 vixen. Zero, on the other hand, looked rather…unimpressive. He did just about expected on Ryu Hayabusa and blew away Lloyd Irving. However it was his third round match that worried many a Zero fan. He was supposed to perform respectably against Mario and he responded by failing to break 40%.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:38 PM | message detail | #236
And now we have come to this match. Luigi looking so good last year and Zero’s bombing against Mario have made this match a lot more debatable than it really should be, in my opinion. While Luigi has indeed come a long way since his days as a choker, Zero has proven time and time again that he is near-elite material. Despite underperforming against Mario, his match against Hayabusa was certainly within the expectations placed upon him (though he did underperform a tad), and his killing of Lloyd Irving further cements the fact that Zero is a force to be reckoned with. Aside from his one bad match, Zero shows no signs of his strength dropping and remains as much of a force as ever.

Even though Luigi has the Nintendo boost and NSMB on his side, I feel that Zero is just too much for him. In my opinion, for Luigi to win this match, he has to be just around the level of characters such as Ganondorf, Tifa, and Vincent, which is something I cannot see happening. Luigi does have a chance to upset Zero if his match vs. Mario was in fact not a fluke/bad match/whatever but it really doesn’t look all that likely. Zero’s already stronger than Luigi statistically speaking even if you think Mario/Zero is legit. Basically, if Zero was SFF’d at all, he wins comfortably.

So what is Zero fighting for?
1) To defeat Luigi with a comfortable margin.
2) To expose Kirby for the overrated puffball he is.
3) To lose to Sonic…in style.

Draco’s Bracket – Zero
Draco’s Vote – Luigi
Draco’s Prediction – Zero over Luigi with 54.76%



Crew Consensus: HM has Luigi, but everyone else is going for the upset with Zero. It should be close either way though.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2006 9:03:02 PM | message detail | #237
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

No match this contest has pissed me off more than this one. The majority seems to think Zero will win this match. Why? A secondary Mario character will beat a secondary Mega Man character. The debate of this match is making me go crazy.

Then again, what do I know. Zero could easily win, and I'll be eating my own words. I'm just more confident in Luigi than everyone else, I guess.

My vote: Luigi
My bracket: Luigi
My prediction: Luigi with 59%

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
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SilverNightmareX7 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:04:14 PM | message detail | #238
Ha! I knew I would could get point >_<;

lol Ganon 53% lol.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2006 9:09:26 PM | message detail | #239
The entire Crew is losing a point in their bracket tomorrow, huh.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 9:11:59 PM | message detail | #240
You obviously missed HM's craziness.

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Z1mZum won the Guru Contest. I picked Pokemon over Metroid, GTA over Warcraft, Halo over CV, Street Fighter over RE, and FF over Zelda.
SilverNightmareX7 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:12:56 PM | message detail | #241
Oh! and my analysis since I can see that no one on the contest crew got this one right.... HM doesnt count as being on the crew anymore.... lol Ganon d. Sonic lolwtfbbq

Zero: Insert wall of text here - mediocre character in a series that has done almost nothing but go downhill since before he was a part of it and has since become more of a strong cult game series than a mainstream game series- continue wall of text.

Luigi: Insert supplemental wall of text- mediocre character in a series that is still well respected and enjoyed by the mainstream audiences of video gaming - continue wall of supplemental text that includes all the x-stats and histories everyone else has bothered to post.

Luigi wins, 53.17%. Yeah, the same % I used for Vincent/Ganon.
DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2006 9:12:57 PM | message detail | #242
He's still losing a point in his bracket though. Just, like me with PW vs. GF, we realized our mistake after the brackets were locked.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
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Lugia2 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:16:39 PM | message detail | #243
Wow. The Guest doesn't do an upset pick.

Oh, and HM? Do you ever wonder if your pick may just be wrong?
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VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!!
Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much.
wavedash101 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:17:00 PM | message detail | #244
B8 got three points baby!!!
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Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude!
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PokemonPatriarch | Posted 10/8/2006 9:20:46 PM | message detail | #245
NintendoFaqs could be considered a magical happening from last year, but I don't think it exists right now. While the females blew out their respective opponents (two of which were same fanbase, and the other was against a character more well known for her show), the males have failed to impress. Yoshi (kinda like Frog...) got exposed by Riku, Ganon failed expectations by not winning the most recent match, and Kirby is far below expectations as well.

Luigi's losing this one, and the only incidents of "NintendoFaqs" this season I'd be willing to subscribe to are Zelda/Aeris and Samus/Crono.
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Proud fanboy of the Ogre Battle saga!!!
~~~Allah Approves~~~
wavedash101 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:23:40 PM | message detail | #246
Ehh Samus over Crono would have been taken with out nintyfaqs help. Zelda/Aeris is the only real case I think. Samus was actually more dominate before last year, you could say.
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Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude!
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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/8/2006 10:18:27 PM | message detail | #247
Give me my damn point Moltar!

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I'm so hardcore.
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 10:45:12 PM | message detail | #248
I've got unwavering confidence in the plumber!!

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"Master using it and you can have this."
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 10:46:53 PM | message detail | #249
You don't know how good that makes me feel, HM!
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*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/8/2006 11:46:47 PM | message detail | #250
So far it appears that HM's confidence is justified.
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My FC2K6 Bracket: 22/24 (missed Boss, phoenix)
Next match prediction: Sonic
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