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Fall 2006 Contest Analysis Crew

DpObliVion | Posted 9/24/2006 12:06:29 AM | message detail | #351
*still has not beaten any of the crew for percentage*

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Lugia2 | Posted 9/24/2006 5:55:50 AM | message detail | #352
Yuna? Getting 77%+!?!?!

And Aeris didn't?...

Ah, screw it. My bracket lives anyway...Although I did see this happening...
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/24/2006 6:08:17 AM | message detail | #353
lol, wasn't actually that far off... >_>;

<_<
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 1:29:40 PM | message detail | #354
darn you lopen
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/24/2006 1:34:41 PM | message detail | #355
Hit-or-Miss Lopen strikes again!
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Lopen | Posted 9/24/2006 1:37:24 PM | message detail | #356
Uwehehehe! This is marvelous! That's my Yunie!

(For the record, I'd never even think of taking Yuri over Roll. No, I'm not saying Yuna boosted, either.)
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2006 7:40:46 PM | message detail | #357
Aeris Gainsborough.......69.78% 80305
Marle...............................30.22% 34779
TOTAL VOTES...........................115084

87.71% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

The Chrono Trigger name gets you far it seems. Marle was able to get over 30% of the vote against Aeris.

Today, you could say Yuna is rolling over her opponent!

Ulti - 4
Lopen - 3
Moltar - 2
KH - 1
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1

Ulti gets the point here.
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Yuna vs. Roll - Bracket: Yuna - Vote: Yuna (11/12)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2006 8:07:24 PM | message detail | #358
Triforce Division: Round 1 - Match 14 – (4)Joanna Dark vs. (5)Cortana

Moltar’s Analysis

Joanna
Game/Series Known From: Perfect Dark
Extrapolated Rank in 2005 54th (15.12%)
Seed in 2005: 8
Lost in 2005 to Mario in Round 1

Jo Jo may not have looked so hot last year, but now it’s time for redemption!

Cortana
Game/Series Known From: Halo

Yep, that blue thing from Halo made it in. Good for it!

This is a somewhat debated match. Many just think Joanna will breeze though and call it a match, but you know me. I need to ramble on about Cortana’s “potential”. So let me put on my shield…and begin.

Cortana, if you didn’t know, is from Halo. Yeah, Halo is popular and all, but is Cortana? Do the Halo fans even care for Cortana? I mean, we know how weird Halo fans are towards Master Chief, but this is “That blue thing that tells you stuff, kind of like Navi except less annoying and more hot.” She’s not even playable or anything.

On the other hand, there’s Joanna Dark, from the popular series Perfect Dark, who is playable. Heck, she’s the main character! She also has Perfect Dark Zero on her side, and while her first match is a bit unfair to base her strength on, she isn’t looking to be too strong anyway.

I have Joanna winning, and she should barring some weird thing happening and Cortana actually showing she has some fight in her. Joanna does have all the right factors on her side, it’s just a matter of what those crazy Halo fans will do.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Joanna will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Joanna: 61% - Cortana: 39%



Ulti’s Analysis

This is a match between which fanbase cares less. I actually had Cortana in my bracket for a bit given Master Chief's success, but then I remembered that no one gives a crap about Cortana. She's Halo's version of Navi.

Joanna Dark however actually has fans and has actually made a contest in the past. Perfect Dark was a million seller that still has people debating Goldeneye vs Perfect Dark, plus Perfect Dark Zero being on the 360 is very important. Whatever Xbox/Halo factor that Cortana might have had going for her will be weakened by Jo being on Xbox Live.

The Halo fanbase caring less is odd to consider, but quite possible.

Prediction: Joanna Dark with 55.55%



HM’s Analysis

This match is one of the most interesting in the entire female bracket. It didn’t get too much debate because we all pretty much figured that Joanna would be able to take care of this without too much trouble. I, however, am a bit worried about Cortana surprising and pulling out a win. Personally, I didn’t even expect Cortana to make the bracket. And with something like Halo, it’s always a big question mark heading into the match.

A good argument for Joanna is that she not only has had Perfect Dark Zero within the past year – it sold around 500,000 copies in America – she also was unfortunate enough to be put up against Mario last year. There’s definitely some potential SFF to be had in that match, I think. It probably isn’t anything drastic, but enough to keep moving Joanna up the ladder. I think that, her game, and the fact that she should have plenty of support from the Nintendo fanbase should be enough to push her over the top here.

…But I still wouldn’t be surprised if Cortana did something crazy. Halo is always hard to peg.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Joanna Dark

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Joanna Dark – 59% ; Cortana – 41%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Joanna Dark
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2006 8:07:58 PM | message detail | #359
Yoblazer’s Analysis

As bad as this match looks, it's interesting to note that we may have seen its mirror version only four days ago. That was a semi-debated match between two foder caliber females; one was a main lead in her game, the other was a single player character in a game that draws its popularity from multiplayer action. Seem familiar? Remember what happened in that match? Yeah... ouch.

Gentlemen, if you thought Starcraft fans didn't care about Kerrigan, prepare to be amazed. Unless she did some astoundingly amazing thing in Halo 2 that I'm unaware of, Cortana is completely useless to Halo fans. She's your tutorial voice person. You know who's a good character to compare to Cortana? Toad. Imagine a Toad who you hardly ever see and never get to play as. That's Cortana. Seriously... Cortana? What the ****?

Joanna Dark may be weak as hell, but she managed over 19% on a super strong Mario before Perfect Dark Zero. Think Cortana can do that? Not a chance. She also looks absolutely dreadful in the picture, and that won't help. Easy match.

My prediction: Joanna Dark def. Cortana (63-37)



Lopen’s Analysis

What have you done for me lately?

Cliche? Sure. But that's what I keep thinking when I see this match. Perfect Dark for the N64 is pretty popular on this site, it doesn't make sense that the main character would be that weak. But yet, she seemingly is from her appearance last year. It's clear from the best game ever, and the top 100 list that the GameFAQs users haven't forgotten about Perfect Dark, but have they forgotten about Joanna? Basically, I think they have. I don't think she's the kind of iconic character that can survive such a grueling test of time, even if her game was fairly popular. And her poor showing last year helps support that.

"But Lopen!", you say, "Perfect Dark Zero was released for the X-Box 360! She should have a resurgence!". *Ahem* My dear man, did you just say X-Box? The same X-Box lives by Halo and Master Chief? You think they'd dare turn on Master Chief's talking little in helmet hologram thing for some new chick on the block? … what? They know her name! They know what she looks like! They would not dare turn on her! She is their holographic goddess! Our holographic goddess!

Cortana's in our minds, Joanna's only in the minds of the people who have already been enslaved by Master Chief and talking hologram helmet thing. It worked for Kairi, it'll work here! Recency factor… yeaah, baby! (If only I'd been consistent with these thoughts!)

Lopen's prediction: Cortana with 52.29%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Joanna Dark

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 59th Place [15.12%]

The lovely Ms. Dark makes her second appearance in the GameFAQs contests with a much more favorable seed and matchup this time around -- rather than being stuck as fodder against the future contest champion, she has a very winnable match this time around, and has Perfect Dark Zero on her side to boot. Now, let's see if she can spread her wings...


Cortana

lol N/A


Cortana, for her part, doesn't have much going for her -- she's from Halo, and that's about it. It's a damn shame, too, because she's the best character from either of the games, even IF you want to include the books. Still, it's not like it's impossible for her to pull this out.

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Joanna Dark: Perfect Dark Zero (XB360)
Cortana: Halo (XBox), Halo 2 (XBox)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2006 8:08:33 PM | message detail | #360
Upcoming Releases

Joanna Dark: N/A
Cortana: Halo 3 (XB360)

Y'know, Cortana scares me in this matchup. After all, in a contest between Perfect Dark Zero and the Halo games, the XBox fanbase clearly prefers Halo, even in a matchup between a side character and a main character. Joanna's going to be working off of Perfect Dark -- which, while decently popular here, didn't get her very far against Mario. However, there's always SFF to think of there...

Basically, if PDZ doesn't help much and Joanna didn't suffer much SFF against Mario, Cortana's got a good shot at this. Especially if the Halo fanbase really comes out and supports her -- I mean, we see how MC seems to defy linearity. What if the fanbase is that devoted to all its characters? Cortana...a contest mainstay?

I certainly hope not. Joanna FTFW

Karma Hunter's Vote: Cortana. If you couldn't tell, bit of a Cortana fanboy here.

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Joanna Dark with 58.88%.

Most likely, however, I see this becoming another Terra/Kerrigan. I may actually be going too low!

Upset Potential: 21%

UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT


Yes, we've established that I think Cortana *can* win. No, nothing much else to say here.

Upset Prediction: Cortana with 52.1%



Guest’s Analysis - DaruniaTheGoron

This match isn't being very heavily debated. I'm betting the only Crew member that has Cortana is Lopen, and we all know how whacked out some of his upsets are. I only count 12 Gurus out of 133 that have Cortana. That's 9%.

However, this match certainly deserves more debate. The Master Chief and Halo have solid fanbases that vote for those two every time. It's why MC can only put up 68% on CATS but still put up 39% on Crono. I believe Cortana will benefit from this fanbase.

Let's take a look here... MC, the main character from Halo, can manage 39% on Crono (who is almost even with Mario). Joanna can manage 19% on Mario (which could have been an overperformance). Cortana, the biggest supporting character, only needs half of MC's fanbase to be even with Joanna.

Joanna will certainly benefit from PDZ, but I think the Xbox fans who have PDZ also have Halo, and love Halo much, much more. And let's not forget only 25% of GF even has a 360. Also, I'm betting a lot of PD fans are also Halo fans now (as both games are console shooters). The one thing that Jo needs to push her to victory is getting people to vote based on the nostalgia factor of PD on N64. I'm betting 80+% of her strength will come from that. Let's look at ownership rates:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2180

Now, I know that's Goldeneye, but GE and PD have similar fanbases. However, I'm guessing only 30-40% had PD if only 60% ever owned GE. Let's not forgot GE beat CV: SOTN with 60% while PD lost to SOTN with 43% in Sp2k4. I could have used an old poll from 2000 for PD, but obviously that data would be way off, so this was the best I could do.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2178

Halo has a 50% ownership rate. However, the fans are more rabid and the series is much more recent and recognizable to new gamers, which is why MC has at least double the strength of Jo.

It would seem like a big detractor to my argument is this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2198
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2006 8:09:25 PM | message detail | #361
However, look at PDZ's competition on there. Pathetic. People were obviously just voting for the well known option. Besides that, only 5% even had a 360 at launch, so this 60% can't be taken too seriously. I'm thinking the PGR3 and Kameo voters in particular count more towards actual strength, and in an poll among actual 360 buyers, PDZ would not dominate nearly as much. Plus, this is just a poll among hyped games, now that PDZ has actually been out for a year and is considered to be highly inferior to the original, the game does not have nearly as much strength, while Halo has been going strong in popularity despite having no releases in 2 years. To put things in perspective, PDZ's message board has as much activity as PGR3's.

Another point I have to address is people saying Cortana has no shot because people play Halo for multiplayer and don't care about the campaign/story.

1. That's not true at all. Upcoming movies and novels are based around the Halo story. Peter freaking Jackson signed on to produce the movie. That speaks volumes, the man would not invest time and money in a movie with a story that is bad and that no one cares about. The 3 books and Graphic Novel have sold decently (the first one, a prequel to Halo 1, sold 200 000+ copies, and this was released before Halo was popular!) and they have nothing to do with Halo's multiplayer. Also, I know most Halo fans work to beat the campaign on Legendary in the Halo games. So obviously they care about the campaign otherwise they wouldn't even bother. There's also tons of fangroups dedicated to solving the puzzle of the Halo universe. And let's not forget ILoveBees.

2. People played PD for single player? Okay, that was a joke mocking the people who say the same about Halo. But there's no doubt people played the game mostly for multiplayer. It's not like either game are touted for their single player as much as their multiplayer, which is why I believe the argument is a weak one to use against Cortana because it goes both ways.

My final points: I'm betting Cortana gets bracket support of at least 50% from the casuals, which always happens with Halo related entries. And one good point for Jo: She'll most certainly get a pic advantage. I'm just praying whatever pic she gets is a bad one, as it could be the difference in a match like this. I'm hoping that Ceej knows this and gives Jo a bad pic to make it a closer match though!

I wouldn't be surprised to see Joanna leading by 5% throughout the night, but then I expect Cortana will make a Halo style comeback with the morning/afterschool vote.

Phew, this turned into a much longer analysis than I thought it would! Well, here's my prediction: Cortana with 50.89%

And a secondary prediction if Jo gets some sexy match pic: Jo with 52.08%. But this one doesn't count officially :P



Crew Consensus: Majority says Joanna will win, but Lopen and the Guest say otherwise. Cortana is going to be quite the wildcard, it seems...
DpObliVion | Posted 9/24/2006 8:13:20 PM | message detail | #362
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

We all have seen this situation before. A Halo match where by all means, Halo should come out on top, but it doesn't. I honestly have no reason to support Joanna in this match, other than......it's Cortana. Who the hell cares about Cortana, even if you like Halo? Only the most serious of Halo fans, or people who have played Halo but not Perfect Dark, will be voting for Cortana. And with Joanna being the higher seed, Cortana can't even count on bracket voting.

But then again, Halo is many times more widely played than Perfect Dark. This is the first match where I really don't know what to expect.

My vote: Cortana
My bracket: Joanna
My prediction: Joanna with 56%

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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 9/24/2006 8:16:27 PM | message detail | #363
PDZ doesn't count for very much at all, due to SFF. =/

Um, could I maybe do a writeup some time in round two? D:
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/24/2006 8:21:29 PM | message detail | #364
If Ulti doesn't get his point, I will be shocked.
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Lugia2 | Posted 9/24/2006 8:52:01 PM | message detail | #365
Well, that was kind of expected. Of the crew.

I think that it is good to note that Joanna comes from one of the last Nintendo-Rare games- Perfect Dark. So, she may have the Nintendo base on this one.

Yeah, I have little faith in Cortana. That's why I have Joanna in my bracket. As do most of the gurus...
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/24/2006 9:01:49 PM | message detail | #366
Yuna finishes with less than 79.31% = KH gets 6 points
Yuna finishes with more than 79.31% = XIII (Guest) gets 6 points
Yuna finishes with exactly 79.31% = Tie, meaning both get 6 points if and only if they purchase The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD on release day and prove it with pics

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/24/2006 9:19:48 PM | message detail | #367
One more thing I'd like to point out... aren't we quite overdue for an upset here >_> Have we ever gone this long without at least one?
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CB06 - Score: 12/12 Rank: Tied - 1st Yesterday's Pick: Aeris
Today's Pick: Yuna Tomorrow's Pick: Cortana
YoAriel33 | Posted 9/24/2006 9:23:19 PM | message detail | #368
We went 18 straight matches without a percentage upset to start the Summer 2005 Contest, but four of those were in the low 50's.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/24/2006 9:32:33 PM | message detail | #369
But on the board, wasn't CJ the majority pick over Ness? And Riku/Frog was pretty debated too wasn't it?
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CB06 - Score: 12/12 Rank: Tied - 1st Yesterday's Pick: Aeris
Today's Pick: Yuna Tomorrow's Pick: Cortana
Gaddswell | Posted 9/24/2006 9:35:15 PM | message detail | #370
Triforce Division: Round 1 - Match 14 – (4)Joanna Dark vs. (5)Cortana

You forgot to switch it to the Aeon Division for both last match and this match.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 9:35:28 PM | message detail | #371
But on the board, wasn't CJ the majority pick over Ness?

Yup.

And Riku/Frog was pretty debated too wasn't it?

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/24/2006 9:39:13 PM | message detail | #372
The board was practically unanimous for Frog on the board, but Frog only had 53.08% of the total brackets.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/24/2006 11:09:16 PM | message detail | #373
Yuna vs. Roll
+7 Lo
+6 KH
+5 Guest
+4 Mo
+3 Yo
+2 Ulti
+1 HM

The Rankings (Through Aeris vs. Marle)
1. UltimaterializerX (61)
2. Karma Hunter (56)
3. Heroic Mario (51)
4. Master Moltar (49)
5. Yoblazer (47)
6. Board 8 (45)
7. Lopen (42)

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DpObliVion | Posted 9/24/2006 11:10:55 PM | message detail | #374
Go Joanna! Still got that perfect going....

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/24/2006 11:20:34 PM | message detail | #375
Oh well, looks like I phail, and Im out of the Guru contest already.
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CB06 - Score: 12/12 Rank: Tied - 1st Yesterday's Pick: Aeris
Today's Pick: Yuna Tomorrow's Pick: Cortana
TheRye | Posted 9/25/2006 1:18:09 AM | message detail | #376
Moltar, if you could drop me an IM when you're on AIM so I could send you my Crono/Falcon analysis, that would be great
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/25/2006 1:54:17 PM | message detail | #377
Man, I am so Moltar's whipping boy. >_<
XIII_rocks | Posted 9/25/2006 2:15:11 PM | message detail | #378
HAR~!, etc.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 3:31:26 PM | message detail | #379
Yuna..................79.3% 97716
Roll....................20.7% 25501
TOTAL VOTES...........123217

90.64% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Looks like Roll turns out to be a bit weaker than most of us had thought. Yuna nearly gets 80% on her, and the vote totals look very nice as well.

Today, Joanna is having an easy time with Cortana

Lopen - 4
Ulti - 4
Moltar - 2
KH - 1
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1

"Hit-or-Miss" Lopen scores a hit with this match!
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Joanna vs. Cortana - Bracket: Joanna - Vote: Joanna (12/13)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 3:34:43 PM | message detail | #380
You forgot to switch it to the Aeon Division for both last match and this match.

Good eye, it's been fixed for the next two division matches.

Moltar, if you could drop me an IM when you're on AIM so I could send you my Crono/Falcon analysis, that would be great

I'll be on for the rest of the day. You can also e-mail it if you want to MasterMoltar@gmail.com
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Joanna vs. Cortana - Bracket: Joanna - Vote: Joanna (12/13)
Lopen | Posted 9/25/2006 4:36:18 PM | message detail | #381
Yo, up my Chunners prediction by 3%. I think I gave Kasumi too much credit.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 8:53:39 PM | message detail | #382
Aeon Division: Round 1 - Match 15 – (3)Chun-Li vs. (6)Kasumi

Moltar’s Analysis

Chun-Li
Game/Series Known From: Street Fighter
Extrapolated Rank in 2005 31st (22.84%)
Seed in 2005: 6
Lost in 2005 to Bowser in Round 1

It’s good to see Thunda Thighs back in the Contest, seeing as how she’s actually decent in strength.

Kasumi
Game/Series Known From: Dead or Alive
Extrapolated Rank in 2002 25th (22.82%)
Seed in 2002: 6
Lost in 2002 to Aeris in Round 1

Back from the grave known as the 2002 Contest, it’s DoA Girl #32!

This match would be interesting….if Kasumi was still the fighter she was back in 2002 that is. I’m going to go out on a limb and say she isn’t. Chun-Li on the other hand, put up a good fight against Bowser just last year. This should be an easy match for Chun-Li.

In fact, Kasumi doesn’t even deserve to be in this Contest. I can think of so many others to take her place, preferably a male. A strong male character who was wrongfully pushed to the side to let characters like Kasumi into this Contest. I think this calls for another edition of…

Real Men, Real Snubs - Magus and Frog

Chrono Trigger. A game about 6 people outside of GameFAQs have played. But who cares about what goes on outside GameFAQs. Chrono Trigger is big here, and that’s all that matters.

*Shot of Magus and Frog in fighting stances*

With the success of Crono in 2002, Magus was nominated by the masses in 2003. He did not disappoint either. After an easy win over Sam “Solid Snake Lite” Fisher, he took on his first worthy advisary, Ganondorf. The Black Wind howled all day as the two fought hard, but in the end, it was Magus who came out as the victor. Magus then went on to face another Zelda character, Link. The Vegeta-faced guy might have lost, but still put up an impressive 35% on Link. He had become a Contest elite, even ranking above Sonic in the end.

*Shot of Magus going toe-to-toe with Link*

While 2003 was the year of Magus, 2004 was the year of Frog. Magus didn’t have much to show besides an easy Round 1 victory and a defeat at the hands of his Chrono Trigger companion, Crono. Frog was the talk of 2004, predicted to have easy victories over Liquid Snake and Master Chief, and a loss to Solid Snake. Frog/Liquid kicked off, and became a classic. The two went back and forth all day, lead swaps and all, but Frog won in the end in a close one. If you didn’t think it could get better after that, you were wrong. Frog/Master Chief became one of the most remembered matches in Contest history. A battle that ensued all day, and even until the final seconds of the poll. Ye Olde Amphibian won the match by only 7 votes in the closest match in Contest history. The Green Swordsman then received nearly 49% of the vote on Solid Snake, giving him the praise for that year.

*Shot of Frog doing some sword action*

But where are they now? Not in this Contest that’s for sure. Was it Magus’ choke against Knuckles that kept him from returning? Was it Frog’s bombing against Riku and Samus that left him in the dust? Can we blame it, just like all the problems in the world, on the female bracket? Whoever to blame, it’s a shame that such fine competitors, marred by one horrible year for any CT character not in the title, are forced to sit on the sidelines this Contest

*Shot of Magus and Frog frowning in a lone spotlight*

Magus. Frog. Real men, and real snubs

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Chun-Li will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Chun-Li: 64% - Kasumi: 36%.



Ulti’s Analysis

This match REEKS of fighting game chick SFF. I also don't give a crap about DoA, so I'll take the lazy way out like I always do! <3
Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 8:54:18 PM | message detail | #383
It's not like Kasumi ever had a chance anyway, even WITH DoA4. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Kasumi does better than everyone thinks. and by this I mean break 40%.

Prediction: Chun-Li with 59.99%



HM’s Analysis

Hey, two females facing each other that we have actual data on! These two female fighting characters have both made their presence known in these contests before – Kasumi in 2002 and Chun-Li in 2005. Both of them were pretty impressive in their respective years, but there is a definite nod to Chun-Li in this match.

Thunder Thighs comes from the most popular fighting game series, Street Fighter, and Kasumi comes from Dead or Alive. It’s really a no-brainer there who is already at an advantage – but there’s more! In 2002, Kasumi clocked in at 22.85% on Base Link while Chun-Li came in at 24.92% on Base Link. If I had to guess, I would wager that Kasumi has definitely dropped off the map over the past couple of years, so this should match should really never come into question.

Chunners should be able to take this one with ease.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Chun-Li

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Chun-Li – 60% ; Kasumi – 40%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Chun-Li



Yoblazer’s Analysis

My god, Chun-Li looks so awesome in the pic. Kasumi doesn't look bad, but the picture doesn't really accentuate her enormous TJF, so there goes about 800% of her vote. Seriously, though, folks... *realizes that no one is laughing*

Bunch of bastards.

Anyway, this match is another one that belongs in the "tough to gauge because we have very little information" category. Both of these lovely ladies have only been in one match (both losses), but the matches are three years apart. It's very shakey information, but NGamer's X-Stats calculator says that Chun wins this with a little over 54% of the vote. I think Kasumi migh have slightly been overrated in 2002 (boobs = votes). Also, there might be some slight female fighting character SFF to deal with here, so I think Chun-Li will overshoot that percentage. I'm guessing this one ends up in the standard 60/40 Snake/Knuckles range.

My prediction: Chun-Li def. Kasumi (59-41)



Lopen’s Analysis

So I'm looking at the 2002 X-Stats, and they seem to imply that Kasumi might not be fodder. Well, we know how jacked up those things are (I'm looking at you, Claire! Way to flop into foddersville!). Thanks, but no thanks. As far as the fighting game pecking order goes, if you're not from Street Fighter and you're not from Mortal Kombat, you might as well just go home (or Guilty Gear… Ky Kiske = 39% on Base Link… what?). Chun Li is from Street Fighter, Kasumi isn't, that's all there is to it. Dead or Alive 4 isn't going to help, Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball isn't gonna help.

I'm about getting bored with the female half… sorry… you've gotta forgive my lack of enthusiasm…please?

Lopen's Prediction: Chun Li with 68.99%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Chun-Li

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 34th Place [22.84%]

A Street Fighter character that happens to be a midcarder? I'm shocked, truly shocked! Though thanks to the female bracket, she escapes the fate of Ken and has the potential now of M. Bison in the Villains Contest. Come to think of it, if she can upset Yuna, Chun-Li will have made it farther in a bracket than any SF character. Including Ryu.

...damn.

Kasumi

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 25th Place [22.82%]
Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 8:55:30 PM | message detail | #384
Also benefitting from the female bracket is Kasumi, although instead of enjoying the rewards of winnable matches she's just plain happy to be in the field again. Though her showing in 2002 is now in retrospect more or less respectable, back then she was just another 'one-and-done' character that 2002's field would be infamous for.

Unlike the other long-running 2k2 absentee Claire Redfield, Kasumi is up against tested competition in her first match. Her big goal here isn't winning ('cause that ain't happening), but to give the 2k2 stats a smidge of credibility. Getting 45% or so would do wonders for that, even though people might blame the Snake/Bowser nonsense on such an 'underperformance'...

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Chun-Li: N/A
Kasumi: Dead or Alive XTreme Beach Volleyball (XBox), Dead or Alive 4 (X360)

Upcoming Releases

Chun-Li: N/A
Kasumi: N/A

However, Kasumi will be doing good to break 40% here. Really good. Claire's already shown her 2k2 value to be all but false against Kairi, and Kasumi's primed to follow suit. Then there's the fact that SF > DoA, the fact that Kasumi's not the most popular character from her own game ('sup, Hayabusa), and that I'd probably take Chun-Li over Ryu H. myself...Kasumi just doesn't have much luck here. Cortana, Kerrigan, Jade, there'd be a ton of matches she could have won here. Welcome back, I suppose -- and don't let the door hit you on the way out. <_<

Karma Hunter's Vote: Thunder Thighs. Why? Well, the fact that I just called her "Thunder Thighs", for one. =/

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Chun-Li with 63.74%.

This is a percent higher than Aeris got in 2002. Even with "lol 2k2 stats", I don't feel comfortable going any higher.

Upset Potential: 4.2%

Y'know, just looking at the stats and taking Kasumi's new games into account, this ain't a bad upset. Still not happening.

Upset Prediction: Kasumi with 51.51%



Guest’s Analysis - MrPatch

Projected Winner: Chun Li

This match, to me anyway, is pretty clear. First we have Chun Li of Street Fighter fame. To put it simply, she is a Chinese girl with thighs that can probably crush boulders. Oh yeah, she’s supposed to kick your ass too. Her opponent is Kasumi, a ninja who along with most of the female cast of the Dead or Alive series, has breasts the size of Barry Bond’s fat head. She is also made to kick ass. However, no matter the amount of kickassery both of these ladies have, they have a pretty bad shot at getting past what seems to be a mini-powerhouse in Yuna (blame the Final Fantasy hax) being in their division.

Now let’s get into the match itself. This isn’t going to be a blow out of any sort, but it will be a decent win. Street Fighter itself gives Chun-Li the advantage as it probably is the more popular game on the site. I don’t even remember DoA characters even doing remotely well in a contest so I think this match should be an easy decision for you bracket voters. Chun Li probably takes this in about a 53-47 split. I just don’t see Kasumi doing anything going up against Chun Li. Maybe if TJF actually kicked in for once.



Crew Consensus: We all are going with Chun-Li here. Anywhere in the low-to-mid 60's seems to be the average.
DpObliVion | Posted 9/25/2006 9:02:45 PM | message detail | #385
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

So we have 2 fighting game characters. One from Street Fighter, who just happened to be basically the first major female playable character in any game (thanks, wikipedia!), and one from Dead or Alive. Clearly Street Fighter is much more popular than Dead or Alive, and clearly Chun-Li is winning this match.

My vote: Chun-Li
My bracket: Chun-Li
My prediction: Chun-Li with 74%

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Lugia2 | Posted 9/25/2006 9:08:05 PM | message detail | #386
I think we can all agree the Female bracket sucks. Talk about a good idea gone bad. Oye...

Though I think the sucky performances of 2005 did in the CT characters, not merely the bracket. Even Crono did badly that time...But he's Noble 9, so he has to come. But still...
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/25/2006 9:10:42 PM | message detail | #387
Yeah, this female bracket sucks *****. I think this is the worse bracket yet. A few fun matches here and there( Kratos/Ryu, Phoenix/Gordon, and anything that involves Dante), but for the most part I'm kinda just..."eh".

When do the 2nd round sign-ups start again?
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 9:15:34 PM | message detail | #388
Crono did bad? He did well on Zidane, as expected on Vercetti, underperformed against Master Chief (but it's MC), unsure with Vincent, and did ok against Mega Man.

It wasn't that Crono got weaker, just his competition (namely Mega Man, Sonic and Mario) got stronger.

Round 2 sign-ups will go up sometime Wednesday I'm guessing. A seperate topic will be made then (and it will probably be in the evening for those looking to camp out or something and wait for the topic to go up).
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Joanna vs. Cortana - Bracket: Joanna - Vote: Joanna (12/13)
Garsha_III | Posted 9/25/2006 9:19:38 PM | message detail | #389
Weren't Magus and Frog both proven to be frauds?
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therealmnm | Posted 9/25/2006 9:25:12 PM | message detail | #390
It wasn't that Crono got weaker, just his competition (namely Mega Man, Sonic and Mario) got stronger.

Eh? Crono got exactly what he was supposed to on Mega Man. Mega Man looked slightly stronger in 2k3. Crono looked slightly stronger in 2k4. And Crono edged out Mega Man in 2k5. There was nothing out of the ordinary about Crono and Mega Man in 2k5. It was Sonic and Mario that seemed particularly beefed.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/25/2006 9:28:44 PM | message detail | #391
Mega Man actually looks a tad stronger in 2k5 than he did in 2k3, actually...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/25/2006 9:29:30 PM | message detail | #392
Oh, wait, you mean relative to each other. Never mind.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/25/2006 10:32:07 PM | message detail | #393
Ahh, that's right. For some reason, I thought Crono should have beaten Mega Man by more, but it was probably Sonic throwing me off. Damn that hedgehog!
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Joanna vs. Cortana - Bracket: Joanna - Vote: Joanna (12/13)
therealmnm | Posted 9/25/2006 10:35:57 PM | message detail | #394
Yeah, Sonic really surprised me last year. I thought he had no chance against Mega Man and I'm a huge fan of his. I thought Leonhart (or whoever it was in the stats topic) was crazy for actually taking Sonic. But seeing Sonic almost take it was delightful to me, even though I would have been on the losing side. I almost took Sonic to take the main bracket this year, had his games been a bit closer for release... But something still doesn't seem right. I played it safe, but I'm pulling for him to take it.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/25/2006 10:36:48 PM | message detail | #395
Looks like Moltar's barely got this barring a miracle percentage drop.
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CB06 - Score: 13/13 Rank: Tied - 1st Yesterday's Pick: Cortana
Today's Pick: Chun Li Tomorrow's Pick: Lara Losses: Cortana
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/25/2006 10:39:14 PM | message detail | #396
Go Lopen!

Kasumi being fodder of the lowest grade FTW!


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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/25/2006 10:53:35 PM | message detail | #397
Joanna Dark vs. Cortana
+7 Mo
+6 HM
+5 KH
+4 Yo
+3 Ulti
-1 Guest
-2 Lo

The Rankings (Through Joanna vs. Cortana)
1. UltimaterializerX (64)
2. Karma Hunter (60)
3. Heroic Mario (57)
4. Master Moltar (56)
5. Yoblazer (51)
6. Board 8 (44)
7. Lopen (40)

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Lopen | Posted 9/25/2006 11:09:42 PM | message detail | #398
I call this one a hit!

FODDER OF THE LOWEST GRADE! OH YES!
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/25/2006 11:35:49 PM | message detail | #399
Lopen's number 1 after today, and KH is almost number 1 in consistency.
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CB06 - Score: 13/14 Rank: Tied - 3075th Yesterday's Pick: Cortana
Today's Pick: Chun Li Tomorrow's Pick: Lara Croft Losses: Cortana
Lopen | Posted 9/25/2006 11:37:22 PM | message detail | #400
Lopen is KILLING the crew!
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