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Fall 2006 Contest Analysis Crew

Heroic Mario | Posted 9/19/2006 8:11:59 PM | message detail | #251
I'm so winning today.

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The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess -- Day 1 : 1464 Hours Remain.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2006 8:15:50 PM | message detail | #252
What's you email, I have the analysis done. I'm too lazy to look it up, despite the fact it's proablly on the first page.

I'm too lazy to re-post it now...maybe later.
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Moltar Status: MasterMoltar@gmail.com
Peach vs. Daisy- Bracket: Peach - Vote: Peach (6/7)
Ed Bellis | Posted 9/19/2006 8:17:11 PM | message detail | #253
Wow Harr.
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This was Ed Bellis, servant to the mighty Guru Z1mZum. Congrats, buddy!
Lugia2 | Posted 9/19/2006 9:00:21 PM | message detail | #254
*Checks bracket*

Terra vs. Kerrigan...Hopefully that means the end of the...nutty analyses.

Then again, I can't see Kerrigan winning....
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VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!!
Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much.
Janus5000 | Posted 9/19/2006 9:10:09 PM | message detail | #255
That was even better than last match's analyses.

<3 Lopen, KH and HaRR
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4
HaRRicH | Posted 9/19/2006 10:22:33 PM | message detail | #256
I'm glad people seem to have enjoyed my analysis, heh. That took a lot more time than I'm proud to admit.....
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Lopen | Posted 9/19/2006 10:29:03 PM | message detail | #257
Whoo! I got mentioned in the song!

Terra vs. Kerrigan...Hopefully that means the end of the...nutty analyses.

What are you, crazy? These are golden! Okay, I guess it would be a nice change of pace. But, I'll have you know I did not treat Kerrigan as if she was a joke!
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef
YoAriel33 | Posted 9/19/2006 11:26:47 PM | message detail | #258
Jill Valentine vs. Sheena Fujibayashi
+6 Mo
+5 KH
+4 Ulti
+3 HM
+2 Yo
-1 Lo

Princess Peach vs. Princess Daisy
+6 Mo (tie)
+6 Yo (tie)
+4 HM
+3 Lo
+2 KH
+1 Ulti

The Rankings (Through Peach vs. Daisy)
1. UltimaterializerX (34)
2. Heroic Mario (30)
3. Karma Hunter (27)
4. Master Moltar (25)
4. Yoblazer (25)
6. Lopen (16)

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The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD
Coming October 3, 2006
Janus5000 | Posted 9/19/2006 11:27:18 PM | message detail | #259
yoblazer is biased against Guests.
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4
Lopen | Posted 9/19/2006 11:28:47 PM | message detail | #260
No one cares about Yo's "poser rankings" anyway! (I'm not bitter because I'm last! Really!)
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef
Janus5000 | Posted 9/19/2006 11:29:57 PM | message detail | #261
Yeah, you're probably bitter because you're not first.
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4
HaRRicH | Posted 9/19/2006 11:43:09 PM | message detail | #262
That's probably more like it. Just remember though Lopen, you weren't put on the Crew to be first, so everything'll be okay!
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Lopen | Posted 9/19/2006 11:50:23 PM | message detail | #263
I'm very well aware I'm here for flavor. In fact, the main reason I signed up was because I knew my picks would diverge from the crew so often. But the people love the flavor.

Yet, I'm still keeping up with the real score! I get my third point today, I can taste it!
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef
YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2006 12:39:33 PM | message detail | #264
Zelda vs. Carmen Sandiego
+6 Lo
+5 Ulti
+4 HM
+3 Yo
+2 Mo
+1 KH

The Rankings (Through Zelda vs. Carmen)
1. UltimaterializerX (39)
2. Heroic Mario (34)
3. Karma Hunter (28)
3. Yoblazer (28)
5. Master Moltar (27)
6. Lopen (22)

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The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD
Coming October 3, 2006
YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2006 12:43:58 PM | message detail | #265
I thought about including guests in the scoring system, but it doesn't really make much sense to cram over 32 different people as one entrant in a system based on consistency. I think including guests naturally works better for Moltar's system, but I can go back and change things up if enough people want it that way.
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The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD
Coming October 3, 2006
HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2006 12:48:43 PM | message detail | #266
I was actually looking to see if you had already explained why you weren't counting the guests in it. It would, in a semi-similar-but-not-exactly-duh way, be like the BOP of the rest of the board's prediction success if you did it like that. If nothing else, it would just be fun to see and encourage the real Crew to not **** up so they don't end up below them, heh.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2006 3:39:28 PM | message detail | #267
Princess Peach...........83.1% 90611
Princess Daisy............16.9% 18423
TOTAL VOTES.......................109034

92.62% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Even those Peach was basically facing her clone, she still didn't have the strength to break 85%. Man, this was one of the most boring matches I've had to witness.

Today, Zelda is showing us how it's done. Over 85% on Carmen and climbling.

Ulti - 3
Lopen - 2
Moltar - 1
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1
KH - 0

Yo and I get points for our picks. HAW HAW KAY AITCH!
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Zelda vs. Carmen - Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda (7/8)
Ed Bellis | Posted 9/20/2006 3:48:48 PM | message detail | #268
I should have gotten that point !!
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This was Ed Bellis, servant to the mighty Guru Z1mZum. Congrats, buddy!
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/20/2006 5:10:22 PM | message detail | #269
lol kh more like qh

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Explicit Content
Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2006 9:22:07 PM | message detail | #270
Triforce Division: Round 1 - Match 10 – (4)Terra Branford vs. (5)Sarah Kerrigan

Moltar’s Analysis

Terra
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy
Extrapolated Rank in 2005 47th (17.10%)
Seed in 2005: 8
Lost in 2005 to Dante in Round 1

Terra is back! Apparently Dante didn’t whip her bad enough.

Kerrigan
Game/Series Known From: StarCraft
Extrapolated Rank in 2005 58th (13.70%)
Seed in 2005: 4
Lost in 2005 to Vincent in Round 1

Kerrigan is back as well! How she could show her face again after Vincent spanked her.

This is certainly an interesting match. Two competitors that were in the same four-pack in 2005 are now facing off. Both were semi-popular upset picks last year, and both were slammed down hard in their matches. Terra ended up a bit higher that Kerrigan in the end, but how will it work out in a direct match?

Well, Terra has the whole Final Fantasy thing with her, and though she may not be strong, look at whom she’s facing. Kerrigan suffers from Gordon Freeman pre-HL2 syndrome of “The game is popular, but the character in the game is unknown/not cared for.”

Now, Kerrigan could end up looking strong and was only underrated last year because of going up against Vincent, and FF is known to blow out fodder worse than expected, but I doubt it. The match may end up closer than expected, but I predict Terra will still win in the end. Stats say Terra with 60%, but what does Moltar say?

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Terra will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Terra: 56% - Kerrigan: 44%



Ulti’s Analysis

It's actually funny that this match has gotten no hype, given that "Blizzard rallying in close matches makes a huge difference" is thrown all over the place during potentially close matches involving the company.

Or maybe the morons that put their heads on the guillotines last year during Vincent/Kerrigan learned their lesson. I generally hate gloating, but that was one match where I didn't mind it at all.

Anyway, I doubt this match deviates much from the 2005 stats.

Prediction: Terra with 60.01%



HM’s Analysis

The good thing about this match is that we have an idea of how it will play out already. It seems the female bracket loves throwing semi-debatable fodder matches at us. Fortunately, these two are very comparable since they both in the same division last year and did not seem to suffer any type of crazy SFF or other factors.

The stats predict that Terra wins this one without 60% of the vote, which seems to be right around where I would suspect Terra will end up. It’s pretty clear that FF6 characters need someone absurdly weak to pull out a win – and Terra’s in luck today. Kerrigan bombed last year after a number of people were calling for her to beat Vincent, but there are a couple of things that can help her out today.

The first is that she may get her StarCraft: Brood War box art picture, which is far more recognizable than the fanart picture CJayC used last year. The second is rallying by Blizzard freaks to help her pull closer to Terra. But even with those two factors behind her, I have a hard time seeing Kerrigan really make this a close match or staying competitive in it. Terra should run away with this one from the start.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Terra Branford

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Terra Branford – 58% ; Sarah Kerrigan – 42%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Sarah Kerrigan
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2006 9:22:41 PM | message detail | #271
Yoblazer’s Analysis

Wow, I had totally forgotten about this match. Maybe it was too high in crap content for even me to stomach. That right there should tell you something, as I like some pretty crappy stuff (Just look at my sig for proof! Wait... did I actually write that? No, of course not.). Honestly, how in the hell do the two most disappointing newcomers from last year's contest face each other in the first round? What the hell kind of mathematical law allows that?

Actually, you can make a pretty decent argument for either one of these losers. While Terra is noticeably stronger in the 2005 stats, Kerrigan's camp has a better track record. Starcraft, Diablo, and Warcraft are all known for performing wonderfully in close matches. Final Fantasy VI characters, on the other hand, are known for being hold-your-nose-and-hope-the-stink-goes-away bad. If she keeps it close early and those Blizzard fans somehow get something going, it could be very interesting (or not, since this match just sucks). Despite all of that, I'm going with the character who managed to be less of a bust last year, and that's Terra.

I don't believe Kerrigan's picture would affect her performance much, if at all, and I doubt Blizzard fans would care enough to get seriously involved in... you know what, just why the heck am I analyzing this? It's like looking for strengths and weaknesses in two pieces of cow dung. Look, this one has corn; it's clearly got the after school vote now! BAH.

My prediction: Zelda def. both of these *****es (97-3)
My prediction so Moltar won't yell at me: Terra Branford def. Sarah Kerrigan (56-44)



Lopen’s Analysis

Sarah Kerrigan has a strength of 14.95.

Terra has a strength of 18.65.

Terra wins with 59.92% of the vote!

A win of 19,507 with 98,324 total votes cast.

Hey… hey… what? No! NO! I don't agree with you, young man! Okay, well, the point of bringing this young man in was to illustrate that Terra should be the favorite in this match if you follow those fancy x-stat things, and by a good margin. But man, I don't agree with X-Stats to measure fodder… really, I don't. I think this match will be the first fodder v fodder match we've had with readily available X-Stats before the match.

… and they're going to fall on their face. Let's look at facts here:

Last year, no matter what her "extrapolated strength" was, Terra still only got 27652 votes in her match. Kerrigan? She got 21058 votes. Now let's take the best case scenario here, and assume all of the Kerrigan voters hate Terra and vice versa (and also that all these voters from last year are gonna show up). You add those vote totals together, what do you get? 48710 votes. Guess how many votes the typical match gets these days? 100k… 110k? That means we've got over 50000 votes that we have no idea where they're going, in the very best case. Can I really say that Terra getting 6000 more votes is that significant with all things considered? I don't think so. Certainly not enough to assume a 60-40 match. The way I see it: They both got the crap kicked out of them… so hard, that you can't really read how they'll do against each other.

So I just went with what my gut said last year, before I was tainted with match results and Dante schilling, and went with thinking Kerrigan is more popular than Terra around here.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2006 9:23:22 PM | message detail | #272
Oh, and also, even assuming my "X-Stats don't work for fodder" logic doesn't work… Kerrigan has another factor going in: She'll probably have a better match picture this time. Everybody whined about it last year… and they should have. I surely didn't recognize her, nobody did. That wasn't the chick on my Starcraft loading screen, or my Starcraft box, or my Starcraft game! What? Her name? Maybe I forgot it! This could be huge for Kerrigan, methinks. (Go picture factor!)

Lopen's Prediction: Sarah Kerrigan with 54.91%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Terra

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 50th Place [17.10%]

Terra, considered by many to be the main character of Final Fantasy 6, is another glaring example of how characters from that game fail to be strong on nearly every level. The fact that the game's characters have three career wins against Pac-Man, Wesker, and Mithos is absolutely pathetic, and all of those wins come from Kefka. Terra is far weaker than the clown, and proved it when she stunk up the place in her match against Dante last year. What a disappointment.

Sarah Kerrigan

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 64th Place [13.70%]

But if Terra was a disappointment, Kerrigan was a complete, total, utter disgrace. With a higher seed, the luxury of at least going up against untested competition, and the resounding successes of Blizzard entries such as Starcraft and Diablo, Kerrigan bombed to all hell against Vincent, ending up one of the five weakest characters in the entire contest going by the stats.

...there's not much more to say about these two.

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Terra: N/A
Sarah Kerrigan: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Terra: N/A
Sarah Kerrigan: N/A

The first debatable match in a while, and I'm inclined to treat it like a 1 v. 8 blowout. That's how much I dislike this match. The fact that two of the biggest bombs we had in the last contest are able to be pitted against one another in a subsequent contest just makes me want to boycott this match altogether.

In all honesty, when you get this low with fodder, I really don't think you can say anything for certain with this match. Things like match picture can have far more of a sway when the voters don't know or care about either contestant, and Kerrigan getting a Brood War picture might be the only thing she needs to tip this into a close match. Being Blizzard won't exactly hurt in terms of rallying potential.

Then again, I have a hard time seeing more people care about Kerrigan than people care about Terra. I really don't think Starcraft is in FF6's league here. Yes, I know what that implies. I'll just be stubborn and stick to the X-Stats on this one. If it goes differently, fine, I hate this damn female bracket anyway.

Karma Hunter's Vote: BOYCOTT

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Terra with 58.86%.

...yeah. I gotta win a point one of these times. =/

Upset Potential: 30%

I'm not even going to grace this with the typical upset alert that accompanies such a high upset probability. Man, I hate this match.

Upset Prediction: Kerrigan with 53.8%.



Guest’s Analysis - cyko

(4) Terra Branford
(Final Fantasy3/6) vs. (5) Sarah Kerrigan (Starcraft)
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at first glance, this seemed like an easy match to predict:

unadjusted S2K5 x-stats -

47) Terra Branford - 17.10% ..... 18.65%
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58) Sarah Kerrigan - 13.70% ..... 14.95%


that means that Terra is expected to win with 59.94% of the vote. therefore, most people in the BOP and the Guru Contest took Terra without giving this match a passing thought. in fact, pretty much noone talked about this match until this past Sunday, when Celes got absolutely clobbered by The Boss:
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2006 9:24:44 PM | message detail | #273

The Boss 61.08% 66787
Celes Chere 38.92% 42565
TOTAL VOTES 109352


everyone to the PANIC ROOM!!!!

so, should we be panicing about Terra's chances? well, first of all, we have no guarantee of where Celes or The Boss lie in relation to Terra. most people feel that Celes had a slim, if any, chance at being stronger than Terra. there's really been no evidence (up until Sunday's match) that Celes was any stronger or weaker than Terra. as for The Boss, she did have a lot of casual bracket-maker support. and being a fan-favorite boss from the MGS series, she might be as strong as Revolver Ocelot, who was pretty even with Kefka (who in turn, seemed quite a bit stronger than Terra). so it's quite possible that The Boss would beat Terra as easily as she did Celes.

the other thing that makes people a little nervous about picking against Kerrigan is that she's a Blizzard character and Blizzard keeps finding a way to throw matches in the face of this board. however, those same people keep forgetting that Kerrigan is NO Starcraft. the majority of Starcraft fans do not play Starcraft for the campaign or because of how much they love Kerrigan. she will not gather the Blizzard support the same way that Diablo, GTA, and Starcraft did.

finally, don't forget about the pictures; because in fodder vs. fodder matches - they do make a difference. Terra holds a HUGE advantage in this department. i tried finding decent, recognizable pictures of Kerrigan. i really did. the only thing i could come up with was the cover of Starcraft: Brood War. and it seems highly unlikely that Ceej will use that pic because it just doesn't lend itself to the style of match pics that he uses. all that leaves is that ugly, unrecognizable pic that she got against Vincent last year. so, even though some people are still nervous about the Mass Carriers of Blizzard, they aren't gonna rescue Kerrigan.

cyko's prediction
- Terra Branford with 60.43%



Summary: Crew minus Lopen has Terra winning, though I am surprised no one is going for Terra with more than 60%, yet no less than 56%.
cyko | Posted 9/20/2006 9:25:17 PM | message detail | #274
Kerrigan has another factor going in: She'll probably have a better match picture this time. Everybody whined about it last year… and they should have. I surely didn't recognize her, nobody did. That wasn't the chick on my Starcraft loading screen, or my Starcraft box, or my Starcraft game! What? Her name? Maybe I forgot it! This could be huge for Kerrigan, methinks. (Go picture factor!)

lol Lopen!

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/20/2006 9:25:31 PM | message detail | #275
Guest FTW!

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Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers.
satai_delenn | Posted 9/20/2006 9:32:57 PM | message detail | #276
Kerrigan has another factor going in: She'll probably have a better match picture this time.

>_>

<_<

Oops.
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Beating FE5 and FE6 hard mode is a true test of manhood in the Japanese culture. However. This explains why they have a lot of effeminate men. ~Sytha
Lopen | Posted 9/20/2006 9:42:40 PM | message detail | #277
Satai, Cyko... look again! My analysis was psychic beyond psychic!
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef
cyko | Posted 9/20/2006 9:45:12 PM | message detail | #278
where's that picture of Edgeworth looking like he's in pain? because right now, that's me...

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2006 9:45:16 PM | message detail | #279
Too bad it'll still end up wrong in the end!
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Zelda vs. Carmen - Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda (7/8)
DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2006 10:08:22 PM | message detail | #280
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

Originally, I picked Kerrigan to win this match, because OH MY GOD Blizzard rallies like crazy. But then I remembered Kerrigan got killed last year, 79-21%, by Vincent. Terra isn't as popular as Vincent, but she's still a FF character, FF6/3 to be exact, so she should still put up similar numbers.

But wait.....OH MY GOD CJay changed her pic! She's supposedly recognizable now! Whatever.

My vote: Kerrigan
My bracket: Terra
My prediction: Terra with 66%

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Lugia2 | Posted 9/21/2006 5:41:59 AM | message detail | #281
Looks like the match is playing close to the X-Stats...There goes Lopen's analysis.

Next match: Amy Rose v. Kos-mos.

I disliked Amy Rose and went with Kos-Mos. That was probably a mistake. Stupid after-school voters!
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Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much.
cyko | Posted 9/21/2006 7:52:14 AM | message detail | #282
Guest FTW!

TAKE THAT!!


barring some insanely backwards afterschool vote, i do believe we will be chalking up another victory for the guest!!

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/21/2006 3:24:34 PM | message detail | #283
barring some insanely backwards afterschool vote, i do believe we will be chalking up another victory for the guest!!

LAWL

Unless Terra goes berserk, this is between me, HM and KH.

~*ST*~
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Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, Castlevania: LoI
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2006 4:39:38 PM | message detail | #284
Zelda..........................86.08% 102509
Carmen Sandiego......13.92% 16578
TOTAL VOTES.......................119087

98.13% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Zelda ends up looking as the most impressive female so far. Over 100K individual votes, 86% on Carmen. ZeldaFAQs indeed.

Today, Terra is showing no troubles against Kerrigan.

Lopen - 3
Ulti - 3
Moltar - 1
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1
KH - 0

Lopen may have some very off picks, but sometimes he nails it...or gets the closest.
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Terra vs. Kerrigan - Bracket: Terra - Vote: Terra (8/9)
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 4:41:03 PM | message detail | #285
I've got this horrible suspicion I'm going to go the entire contest without a point. -_-
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Commit it to memory.
DpObliVion | Posted 9/21/2006 4:42:51 PM | message detail | #286
If it makes you feel any better KH, if my predictions were being counted, I wouldn't have any points either.

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Minipoooot | Posted 9/21/2006 6:16:14 PM | message detail | #287
tag
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I long to be a hobbit.
Tai | Posted 9/21/2006 7:34:40 PM | message detail | #288
tag
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I lost my sig. Can you find it for me? :(
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2006 8:47:30 PM | message detail | #289
Triforce Division: Round 1 - Match 11 – (3)KOS-MOS vs. (6)Amy Rose

Moltar’s Analysis

KOS-MOS
Game/Series Known From: Xenosaga
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 36th (22.96%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 21st (22.60%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 41st (19.52%)
Seed in 2003: 7
Seed in 2004: 8
Seed in 2005: 7
Lost in 2003 to Samus in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Ryu in Round 1
Lost in 2005 to Luigi in Round 1

The blue-haired beauty is back! Yay!

Amy
Game/Series Known From: Sonic the Hedgehog

Blah…Amy. Only a few in the Sonic-verse surpass you in suckitude.

KOS-MOS wins. Amy would have to be stronger than Robotnik, and maybe Tails, to even stand a chance. I also think KOS-MOS is a underrated in 2005, and with XS3 behind her, she’s bound to look better now.

Now, back to this cursed female bracket. A lot of good characters were left out because of it, and instead we got stuff like…Amy Rose. I’ll show you another Sonic character that deserves to be in it instead!

*This regularly scheduled analysis has been interrupted for this short announcement. Please do not change topics.*

Real Men, Real Snubs - Knuckles

He’s Red. He’s mean. He has his priorities straight. He’s Knuckles, a real man, and a snub in the 2006 Contest.

*Shot of Knuckles doing an uppercut*

Ever since 2002, this Echinda has seen action in GameFAQs Summer Contests. Back then, he mustered up 80% of the vote against Akira Yuki. THE Akira Yuki. Knuckles’ path of destruction wasn’t done there. Next year, semi-fresh off of Final Fantasy X, Yuna challenged the big Red One. Yet even she could not stand up to him. The King Dig’s track of Round 1 victories didn’t end there though, because in 2004, he took down Kefka with ease.

*Shot of Knuckles standing over his fallen opponents triumphantly*

However, in 2005, all seemed lost for Knux, the Red Demon of the Wind. His round 1 opponent was Magus, known for his win over Ganondorf and impressive performance against Link…and the game he’s in, Chrono Trigger. No one had faith in Knuckles, but even though the odds were against him, Little Mac in Echinda Form overcame the odds and won the match-up. Brackets had died, but new life was breathed into Knuckles, as that match would forever be remembered in the hearts of the GameFAQs members.

*Shot of Knuckles cheered on by the masses*

But where is he now? He didn’t even make the cut for the 5th Character Battle. Knuckles, a character who’s only weakness was a snake that didn’t reside on an aircraft, missed the mark. His impressive victories, including the upset of Magus, and even his valiant loss against Squall Leonhart, couldn’t get him a spot. Is that what Knuckles really deserved?

*Shot of Knuckles frowning in a lone spotlight*

Knuckles. A real man, and a real snub. (P.S.: Shadow > Knuckles, 45% on Mario! Shadow for 2K7!)

Moltar’s Bracket Says: KOS-MOS will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: KOS-MOS: 65% - Amy: 35%



Ulti’s Analysis

I know KOS-MOS completely ****ing tanked last year (remember how KOS-MOS/Luigi was an "even" match according to stats?), but has she fallen so far that she'll fail to beat a character that Sonic fans despise? Somehow I doubt it, plus for what it's worth XS3 is a recent release.

Prediction: KOS-MOS with 57.45%



HM’s Analysis

I have no idea why Amy Rose managed to disgrace us with her rotten appearance in this contest, but she did. Fortunately, she was put in a match she cannot possibly win against KOS-MOS. Most of the reason this match isn’t debatable is because the Sonic fanbase has shown to hate Amy Rose in previous polls. They were old, sure, but it’s not like Amy got any better over the years. She’s still the annoying little rodent who’s trying to get Sonic’s attention.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2006 8:48:24 PM | message detail | #290
I believe the stats put Tails around KOS-MOS’s level or around there, which is far above the ceiling for Amy. Added to that, KOS-MOS has proven to be decently strong in these contests before, and she has the benefit of a new game coming out right around the contest – Xenosaga Episode III. It may not be something big, but it should at least put some more focus back onto her for now.

This match should end up being a rather boring affair with KOS-MOS taking it without trouble.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: KOS-MOS

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: KOS-MOS – 60% ; Amy Rose – 40%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: KOS-MOS



Yoblazer’s Analysis

This is the second consecutive match where I know nothing and don't give a hoot about either character; it definitely makes these harder to write. KOS-MOS isn't weak, and Amy should be a good bit weaker than Tails, so the hot robo babe on the left will win easily. Rather than spice this up with something witty or entertaining, I'd rather just go ahead and slurp the X-Stats. According to the 2004 stats, KOS-MOS is projected to beat Tails with approximately 52%. Ok. Hmm... no wonder everyone hates these things. That didn't help at all. Let's try Robotnik. According to the stats, 2004 KOS-MOS beats the evil doctor with a little over 65%. Much better, but then you have to remember that Robotnik was probably SFF'D by Ganondorf. **** these things. Ok, in 2003, KOSSY beats Crash Bandicoot with 62%. There's no way Amy Rose is stronger than him, so I'll bump that percentage and call it a day. Actually, I'll bump it a lot, since I get the feeling that not even Sonic fans care about this goofball.

My prediction: KOS-MOS def. Amy Rose (68-32)



Lopen’s Analysis

Amy Rose is yet another example of a character from a popular series that I don't feel has any real fans. They seem to grow on trees here in this contest, it seems. However, any of the statements I say apply to Peach, Kairi (shaddap!), Celes, Terra… and all those others, apply even worse to Amy Rose. Amy Rose doesn't have the benefit of being in every/almost every game of the series like Kairi or Peach. Amy Rose doesn't have the benefit of being "the main character of a game" like Celes or Terra. She's not in any of the old games, which I think are the main appeal of Sonic. She's got nothing!

In that "favorite Sonic character" poll? She got last? Second to last maybe? She didn't get more than 2 or 3%, I know that. Not to put too much faith in those polls, but when they back up my thoughts on the matter, well, they can only help. She did about as bad as Robotnik, she's not as important to the games as Robotnik, she's not in as many games as Robotnik. She's got no appeal to the old school Sonic fans. All signs say that she should be less popular than Robotnik.

Would KOS-MOS beat Robotnik? Of course she would! Xenosaga isn't hugely popular here, but don't let KOS-MOS's match with Luigi last year fool ya. She's not mega jobber fodder… at least she beat Crash Bandicoot decisively. And quite simply put… I think Amy Rose is the very mega jobber fodder I was talking about! Crash vs. Amy? I'd put my money on Crash. Really! But, this match isn't too debated, so most of you agree with me! Good then, I guess I can shut up now!

Lopen's prediction: KOS-MOS with 64.88%
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2006 8:48:56 PM | message detail | #291
KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

KOS-MOS

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 36th Place [22.22%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 31st Place [22.60%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 45th Place [19.52%]

A long running, middle-of-the-pack contest entrant, KOS-MOS has the dubious honor of being one of the hardest people to write for in the FFP when she loses. <_< She has also had Xenosaga III since her last appearance, which would seem to spell good things for her -- but last year, even after Xenosaga II, she appeared to take a bit of a fall. She's still got the nomination power to get into these things, though, and still hovers around the fodder line, so that's not all bad. As for her opponent....

Amy Rose

lol N/A

KOS-MOS was just wasted here, as this match is hardly debatable. Amy is one of *the* most hated and reviled characters in the Sonic series, happens to only be prominent in the Adventure titles (y'know, the less popular ones), and would basically lose to anyone with a bit of strength. Poor Amy. I still like you! ;_;

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

KOS-MOS: Xenosaga III (PS2)
Amy Rose: Shadow the Hedgehog (Multi)

Upcoming Releases

KOS-MOS: N/A
Amy Rose: N/A

While Amy Rose may come from a more popular series, she is generally hated. KOS-MOS has taken out more well known characters on the basis of hate before (Crash). Although to be fair, that was her only win.

Something tells me that Amy should win this, and I'd have definitely picked her if this were their first contests. But KOS-MOS has stood the test of time too well to fall to someone I know should be fodder. Don't be surprised if the overall bracket predictions differ drastically from the board though.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Amy Rose. Don't judge me!

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: KOS-MOS with 61.72%%.

Xenosaga III will help a bit? C'mon...

Upset Potential: 14.5%

It's not impossible for Amy to win this, but like Kerrigan...it's not worth discussing. What a fall it would be for KOS-MOS, though.

Upset Prediction: Amy Rose with 51.3%.



Guest’s Analysis - Tai

KOS-MOS

2k3: Defeated Crash Bandicoot 61.98%-38.02%
Lost to Samus 30.25%-69.75%

2k4: Lost to Ryu 37.87%-62.13%

2k5: Lost to Luigi 34%-66%

Amy Rose

OMG, FIRST TIMER LOLZ!

Omg, a veteran with somewhat respectable history vs a first-timer that no one cares about. Who could possibly win? :)

KOS-MOS is that sexy android from the Xenosaga series. While I don't know much about that series, I guess KOS-MOS is sorta a cult favorite in GameFAQs, from a *gasps* cult RPG series! She hasn't done anything ground-breaking in these tournaments, and hasn't been past the first round since 2003. Hell, she may have gone down. I mean, come on; 37% on Ryu one year then 34% on Luigi the next? Well, I guess it doesn't matter against who she's facing.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2006 8:50:25 PM | message detail | #292
Amy Rose....oh, she's that girl who chases Sonic around, or tries. Yeah, considering she's from one of the more classic series in video gaming and can't get into a contest unless CJayC allows at least 32 girls in, no one should care about her, right? Uh, right; get with my program, damnit! :( Unless you're Tifa or Vincent, if this is your first time in your contest, there's probably a reason for that; YOU SUCK and you will be going home with nothing to talk about with your family and friends (possibly imaginary) but the bruises on your ass! I mean, ask Kerrigan! "Starcraft's legion is gonna mass spam the polls lol!" Uh huh, she did well vs Vincent! :) Oh...and furries do suck....those fans didn't hear me, did they? >_>

Yeah, so with all that said, it's a bit shocking Amy did get in period, cause what happened to that echinda that exposed Magus has fraud? That two-tailed fox that follows Sonic around and makes cool airplanes?. Oh, they got snubbed? :( See? That actually leaves only Sonic and Amy to represent the Sonic series, right? Isn't that cute? See, that's why we can take KOS-MOS to win and don't have to worry about the Sonic legion mass spamming the polls, ok? Or at least, enough to beat KOS-MOS. Maybe Sonic would beat KOS-MOS, no questions asked. But, his girlfr....I mean stalker doesn't have that kind of support. Hell, FURRIES don't have that...ok, forget it.

KOS-MOS wins with 61.23%. Cry, furry fans. Cry very hard. :-)

All four of you on GameFAQs. *runs*



Crew Consensus: KOS-MOS wins with ease. The range is a bit wide though, as Amy is a bit of a wildcard. KOS-MOS is also hard to judge, especially after he performance last year.
DpObliVion | Posted 9/21/2006 8:54:53 PM | message detail | #293
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

The lower Sonic characters already have shown that they struggle. Knuckles and Shadow have been ok, but Tails and Robotnik have both both performed very poorly. Now, Amy Rose is below all of these people, and she wasn't in the Genesis games that gave Sonic its popularity.

One month ago, KOS-MOS would have won. And now, Xenosaga 3 has come out. KOS-MOS will kill Amy. The only thing that matters with this match is what Notre Game's new sig will be.

My vote: Amy Rose
My bracket: KOS-MOS
My prediction: KOS-MOS with 72%

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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 9/21/2006 8:58:01 PM | message detail | #294
From Master Moltar Posted 9/21/2006 9:50:25 PM
Unless you're Tifa or Vincent, if this is your first time in your contest, there's probably a reason for that; YOU SUCK and you will be going home with nothing to talk about with your family and friends (possibly imaginary) but the bruises on your ass!

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1128238
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Michelle.
MastaHealer | Posted 9/21/2006 9:02:03 PM | message detail | #295
I dont get why people would think XS II would have helped K-MOS. It alienated a huge amount of the series fans, probably is the reason the series got cut short, and it was tedious. Game took forever. Battle would take like 10 min. Bosses were even worse. The campaign sidequest was boring and horrendously time consuming. And the voice actors..dont get me started. Albedo saved that trainwreck of a game. Now XSIII thats a different story. After jumping the massive hurdle of playing XSII, XSIII Is absolutely amazing. In fact, I say play 1 then skip 2 and just play 3. You can read the summaries to get filled in. Less boring.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/21/2006 9:07:30 PM | message detail | #296
Wow, +80,009 respect/love points to Moltar for going off about Knuckles.

Oh yeah, and......

<_<

I nominated Amy Rose.

Not that I necessarily wanted to nom her, I just didn't have enough females to nominate her, so I just threw her in there cause she's from Sonic. I may have nominated KOS-MOS too though, I'm not sure.

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t3hl3fty | Posted 9/21/2006 9:09:24 PM | message detail | #297
KH seems to have this one in the bag!
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Lugia2 | Posted 9/21/2006 9:11:24 PM | message detail | #298
Suddenly, the Kos-Mos>Amy Rose pick doesn't look so horrible. Yay!

Next up:Aeris and Marle!

In other words...the return of the Nutty analyses. And why Magus isn't in to somehow redeem himself. Same with Frog. Besides the fact that they fell pretty hard. Meh.
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cyko | Posted 9/21/2006 9:34:53 PM | message detail | #299
curse the insanely backwards afterschool vote!!!! i really thought Terra would keep building her lead all day. it's not very often that the before school vote is that different from the after school vote. >_<

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 9:40:24 PM | message detail | #300
This isn't quite over yet...I need Terra to stay over 58.43% or else the point goes to that dastardly HM.

C'mon girl, you can do it!
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