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Fall 2006 Contest Analysis Crew

Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/27/2006 9:53:06 PM | message detail | #451
I'll be happy as long as I get Ganon vs. Sonic...and Ganon vs. Crono...and Ganon vs. Mega Man. <3
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Lugia2 | Posted 9/28/2006 5:44:00 AM | message detail | #452
Lopen didn't get the highest percentage this time, but he would've won this time if he did. Which means...

Hit or miss Karma Hunter strikes- uh, has he done this before?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 10:25:26 AM | message detail | #453
I'd love to have Ganon/Vince, lol. Not gonna happen >_> It'll be the first match down.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/28/2006 10:37:18 AM | message detail | #454
Damn it, percentage, stop going down! Let me beat the Crew in predicting for once!

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NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 6:34:07 PM | message detail | #455
Lara Croft..........77.55% 75464
Alyx Vance.........22.45% 21850
TOTAL VOTES...............97314

92.91% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Lara flat out dominates....that sounds really odd to say. Nearly 93% of the brackets and 77.55% of the vote. Match didn't break 100K though...

Today, it's the MALE HALF!!! Snake is laying waste too.

Lopen - 5
Ulti - 4
Moltar - 3
KH - 2
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1

KH gets another point.
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Snake vs. Soma - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (15/16)
YoAriel33 | Posted 9/28/2006 6:38:25 PM | message detail | #456
Solid Snake vs. Soma Cruz
+7 KH
+6 Yo
+5 Mo
+4 Lo
+3 Guest
+2 HM
+1 Ulti

The Rankings (Through Snake vs. Soma)
1. Karma Hunter (79)
2. Master Moltar (72)
2. UltimaterializerX (72)
4. Heroic Mario (66)
5. Yoblazer (65)
6. Lopen (53)
7. Board 8 (47)

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 7:14:52 PM | message detail | #457
Sign-ups for Round 2 (female half) are now up! Go, quickly!

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30817598
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Snake vs. Soma - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (15/16)
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/28/2006 7:45:10 PM | message detail | #458
KH is definitely number 1 now in consistency.
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CB06 - Score: 15/16 Rank: Tied - 2768th Yesterday's Pick: Lara Croft
Today's Pick: Snake Tomorrow's Pick: Squall Losses: Cortana
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 7:46:15 PM | message detail | #459
And soon I'll be #1 in Moltar's system too! KAY AITCH IS INVINCIBLE
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Lugia2 | Posted 9/28/2006 8:06:48 PM | message detail | #460
Moltar's no longer at the bottom!

You know, considering that the next match is Squall/Tidus, and today is Snake/Soma, it feels as if we haven't cleared the Female bracket yet...

Oh well. Eventually.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 8:08:04 PM | message detail | #461
Hey, Moltar. If you get a chance, up my Squall prediction by 2%? Thanks.
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LusterSoldier | Posted 9/28/2006 8:41:02 PM | message detail | #462
Lopen - 5
Ulti - 4
Moltar - 3
KH - 2
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1


Hey, that's not the guest for today's match.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 9:09:49 PM | message detail | #463
Yeah, but he was the one who got the point, so he deserves some recognition.

And I don't have the Guest write-up for Squall/Tidus yet, so...anyone wanna do it?
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Snake vs. Soma - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (15/16)
DpObliVion | Posted 9/28/2006 9:40:10 PM | message detail | #464
Bump

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NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 9:51:23 PM | message detail | #465
Patriot Division: Round 1 - Match 18 – (4)Squall Leonhart vs. (5)Tidus

Moltar’s Analysis

Squall
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy VIII
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 20th (24.36%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 16th (31.72%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 19th (22.92%) - Adjusted Value:17th (29.58%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 11th (32.22%)
Seed in 2002: 15
Seed in 2003: 6
Seed in 2004: 4
Seed in 2005: 2
Lost in 2002 to Sonic in Round 1
Lost in 2003 to Samus in the Round 3
Lost in 2004 to Cloud in the Round 3
Lost in 2005 to Vincent in Round 3

Hero of FF8

Tidus
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy X
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 11th (33.80%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 13th (34.25%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 20th (22.82%) - Adjusted Value: 24th (25.35%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 24th (27.16%)
Seed in 2002: 8
Seed in 2003: 5
Seed in 2004: 8
Seed in 2005: 4
Lost in 2002 to Sonic in Round 2
Lost in 2003 to Ganondorf in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Mega Man in the Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Kirby in Round 2

Hero of FF10

Hero of FF8 vs. Hero of FF10?! Oh my, sounds like there could be some SFF here! But who will it go to, Squall or Tidus? Let’s find out.

First, look at the Extrapolated Rankings of the characters over the years. As time passes, it seems that Squall gets stronger while Tidus gets weaker. Then again, Tidus was fresh off FFX back then, but it seems as time passes, the more he fades away. Squall still remains stronger, and thanks to the KH series, he seems to be getting stronger, thanks to a prominent role in the games.

So now Squall, a guy who went toe-to-toe with Vincent last year, is facing Tidus, who got spanked against Kirby, who Squall beat 2 years ago. Wow, this already doesn’t even seem like it will be close. Now throw in some SFF and a possible KH2 boost for Squall, and you have Tidus on the receiving end of an ass-kicking.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Squall will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Squall: 63% - Tidus: 37%



Ulti’s Analysis

This would have been a HUGE match last year, but now we've seen how much of a fraud Tidus 2003 is. Even with potential SFF (which would favor Squall, because FF fans hate Tidus more than him), I doubt this match deviates much from last year's stats.

Prediction: Squall with 57.85%



HM’s Analysis

This match makes me hurt inside. I like both of these characters…but my preference is clearly toward Tidus – second best character ever! This match in 2003 would have great…or at least seemed great! Unfortunately, everything points to Squall winning this one without much trouble at all. Tidus – thanks to Magus – was overrated in 2003 and has gone from hanging with Ganon to getting beat down hard by Kirby, who Squall has beaten.

The only way this match could get interesting is if the fanbase actually prefers Tidus over Squall. It’s a real stretch, but that’s about all Tidus has to work with. I would guess that this one gets a bit ugly and even uglier in the next round if there is anything to the Snake/Squall SFF theory – it seems Snake can SFF damn near everything!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Squall Leonhart

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Squall Leonhart – 60.5% ; Tidus – 39.5%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Tidus
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 9:52:07 PM | message detail | #466
Yoblazer’s Analysis

If this match were held in 2002-2004, it would have easily been one of the most debated of the contest. I remember the long debates about which Final Fantasy hero was the second strongest, and I remember when Tidus had the upper hand in 2002 and throughout most of 2003. Needless to say, the tables have turned. Ever since his shocking win over Luigi in 2003, Squall Leonhart has establishes himself as FF's #2 hero. He beat Kirby without trouble in 2004, beat the surging Knuckles in a similar fashion in 2005, and then went 50/50 against Vincent Valentine in his next match.

While Squall has been making impressive gains, Tidus has had a crap-filled spiral into the crappy depths of craptitude. He gave a decent effort but came up short against Ganondorf in Square's best contest year. In 2004, he got completely *****-slapped by Mega Man (did you guys know Heroic Mario called that match perfectly? No fooling. He did! Believe it! I do! Do you? You should! It's true!), and the poor guy suffered an even more humiliating loss against Kirby in 2005.

At this point, the voters clearly favor Squall. Once you add Kingdom Hearts II and some Final Fantasy SFF in the mix, you have another painful, disappointing loss for Tidus. Serves him right. Know why? Because Squall is handsome; Tidus is just girlie.

My prediction: Squall Leonhart def. Tidus (61-39)



Lopen’s Analysis

Man, think how debated this one would be had Kirby not embarrassed Tidus last year. Seriously, it's hard to think Tidus has a chance when Kirby beat him 57-43 or so… and when Squall beat Kirby 55-45 the year before. There's the infamous "Big N boost", but I'm still not quite buying that this is a debatable match. Luckily, I don't think any of you are either, so that makes my job easier.

There is one thing this match has that can make it go really wack, and I'm sure my fellow analyzers will be spewing the letters SFF at every opportunity. But as for me? I really don't think so. I don't expect this match to get tainted by it that much. I think as the main character of their respective games, their games being probably about as popular as one another, and with a generation gap between FF8 and FFX to add to that, they should both hold their own pretty well. Something Fishy Factor in this match? Nope, Nothing Fishy Factor. Alright, maybe a little. Some But Not That Much Fishy Factor. (SBNTMFF, for those keeping score at home)

Lopen's prediction: Squall Leonhart with 59.77%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

SQUALL LEONHART

"I'm not having anyone talk about me in the past tense!."

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 20th Place [24.36%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 16th Place [30.7% ]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 17th Place [29.58%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 12th Place [32.22% ]

My former personal favorite Final Fantasy character (well, tied with Vincent) has a place near and dear to my heart. And apparently much of GameFAQs feels the same way, because, 2002 outing aside, Squall has been a force in these contests, and we all took notice the first time we saw him beat Luigi to within an inch of his life. It's much deserved, too -- whether it be in Final Fantasy VIII or Kingdom Hearts, Squall has all kinds of awesome going for him.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 9:52:33 PM | message detail | #467
It's a shame that he got kind of screwed this contest by getting Solid Snake in the second round (though he has more of a shot than you might think), so we're not going to be able to see him stretch his new KH2 wings much. Not to mention he still has that whole Devil Division baggage potentially hampering him. Then again, if Squall wanted an upset run that would make his win over Luigi look like child's play, the time is now... WOO SQUALL

TIDUS

"I know it's selfish...but this is my story!"

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 11th Place [33.8%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 13th Place [33.14% ]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 24th Place [25.35%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 26th Place [27.16% ]

However !! Spotlight falls now on Tidus for me -- the man who is now my new favorite FF character! I didn't think it would be possible for anyone to beat out the Squincent duo, but Tidus through his actions in FFX cracked into my top ten. And it's a damn shame that he's just a midcarder in all probability...though I can't say he's entirely blameless for it. <_<

He's also known in these contests for being a fraud, though that's more Magus' fault than anything. Still, the once thought near-elite now just a midcarder...and worse he's in a virtually unwinnable match -- a SFF match at that, so no love there. I mean, come on, he could decimate 95% of the women's field...

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Squall Leonhart: Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2)
Tidus: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Squall Leonhart: N/A
Tidus: N/A

This is a boring match that won't tell us much about either character thanks to the SFF potential. Squall is a lock here, alright -- they've got the common opponent in Kirby, Squall won big while Tidus lost bigger. The percentages might be weird depending on which way the core fanbase splits, but the only thing to watch out for in this match will be seeing two of the best characters going at it -- and the inevitable fanboy arguments that will ensue.

...aw.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Tidus. I considered abstaining, but Tidus needs a bit of support.

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Squall Leonhart with 64.22%.

A safe, boring pick that exceeds the X-Stats' prediction by enough to call some SFF on it. Um...yay.

Upset Potential: 1%

After a lot of thought, Tidus doesn't have zero chance in this matchup...sure it might as well be, but he's got one thing on his side -- without Kingdom Hearts, there's very strong case for Tidus > Squall. That doesn't mean much since Kingdom Hearts, y'know, exists and all that, but if Tidus is stronger than Squall without it, there's a case for scoring SFF there. And if you score enough SFF, it could theoretically overcome the KH disadvantage and become a win by rSFF!

Of course, that would make us have to assume that Tidus could score major SFF on Squall (we're talking Cloud-like here), assume that Tidus is stronger than Squall without KH in the first place (hey, Snake/Squall strangeness!), and a bunch of other ridiculous factors that contradict what's staring us straight in the face.

Chalk up even this 1% potential to newly found Tidus fanboyism.

Upset Prediction: Tidus with 51.08%



Guest’s Analysis - Ken "Cena" Masters

First things first, it's good to be doing an analysis write-up again. It feels like it's been a little too long since I was a full-time part of the crew.

Secondly, I don't think there is any need to bring up past polls to describe voting patterns either. This is 2006, not 2005, and definitely not 2004. Kirby won't have dick-all to do with anything this year.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2006 9:53:28 PM | message detail | #468
So without further adieu, we'll get on with it. Now, the match I have the pleasure of addressing is Squall Leonhart vs Tidus. Let's get a few things out of the way. Both are from Final Fantasy games in which they're the main character. They're also pretty similar from what I've surmised. I haven't gotten far in FFX, and I've yet to play FF8, but I'm sure it won't make a hell of a lot of difference on voting. Basically, the character's personalities seem to be similar. So, how much does this lend to those magical three letters that everybody will be mouthing the moment they read this sentence?

Probably not a whole lot. Neither picture seems to show any amount of man-boobies that could bring in quite a few number of votes.

Oh... thought I meant SFF? With the characters being so similar (which I previously mentioned), I think these two are even in the amount of fans they've got. Unless I'm totally rusty at this whole 'analysis' thing, I'll bet SFF means just as much as TJF... well, slightly more, but it won't be why anybody's going to win this. You know how much I exaggerate things, Board 8.

I'm not sure what most people are thinking about this one, to be honest. Somebody out there is going to think it'll be a squash, but I'm on the fence. It's fairly easy to guess that Squall's going to win, but by how much? I'm not a fan of the X-Stats, but I can guess that it'll show Squall winning by a fair margin. The thing about that is that's pretty obvious without knowing X-Stats.

Some brackets have Tidus winning, and more have Squall winning. It's just the way it is, and I think the majority's got it right.

There are quite a lot of factors in this match that could lend to either character, but I think I'm pretty safe with what I've got in the bracket, and who I plan on voting for.

Ken "Cena" Masters' (Still Perfect) Bracket Pick:

Squall Leonhart

Ken "Cena" Masters' Prediction:

Squall Leonhart with 57.21%.



Crew Consensus: Squall wins this FF showdown. Mid 50's to mid-60's is looking right.
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 9:55:42 PM | message detail | #469
The highest pick for me again? It's been working well enough so far!

Though in terms of preference I do hope I end up in last this time around.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/28/2006 10:23:20 PM | message detail | #470
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

These are usually the easy kinds of matches: the matches with characters from the same series (or, the SFF matches, for those contest junkies). You just have to figure out which one is the stronger of the two, and that's usually not hard. And just taking a quick look back shows that Squall has been perhaps the strongest consistent Final Fantasy character outside of Cloud and Sephiroth (too small of a sample for Vincent and Aeris), and Tidus has been nothing more than mediocre.

My vote: Ugh, do I even have to vote in this one? Fine, Squall.
My bracket: Squall
My prediction: Squall with 73%

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NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
DpObliVion | Posted 9/28/2006 10:26:10 PM | message detail | #471
*looks at my Squall prediction*

*looks at the Crew's Squall prediction*

Yeah........that's why I don't belong in the Crew (that, or I'll look like a genius and laugh at you all for wildly underestimating Squall).

But hey, I might actually be beating the crew this match....Snake just has to stay above 82.11%....you can do it Snake, hold him off!

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DpObliVion | Posted 9/28/2006 11:03:35 PM | message detail | #472
82.15%, yay me!

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NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Ken Masters | Posted 9/28/2006 11:04:21 PM | message detail | #473
I think Molly might take this one.
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Tatl | Posted 9/28/2006 11:06:52 PM | message detail | #474
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/28/2006 11:10:39 PM | message detail | #475
Looks like Karma Hunter wins his third straight point with his third straight highest prediction. I'm going to let my jealousy shine through by calling him Lopen Hunter for the rest of the contest.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/28/2006 11:30:56 PM | message detail | #476
Damn, KH is on FIYAH!
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CB06 - Score: 16/17 Rank: Tied - 2764th Yesterday's Pick: Solid Snake
Today's Pick: Squall Tomorrow's Pick: Yoshi Losses: Cortana
Lugia2 | Posted 9/29/2006 5:45:41 AM | message detail | #477
...Yikes. When these guys blow out, they really blowout...

Snake/Squall might be an interesting match to analyse at this point...but, well, Snake still wins.

Lopen Hunter sounds right...
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/29/2006 1:48:06 PM | message detail | #478
When were the analysis sign ups for the male half even posted? Along with the female half? I can't remember.
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Weird Kirby Dude11 | Posted 9/29/2006 1:50:43 PM | message detail | #479
DpObliVion | Posted 9/28/2006 11:26:10 PM | message detail
*looks at my Squall prediction*

*looks at the Crew's Squall prediction*

Yeah........that's why I don't belong in the Crew (that, or I'll look like a genius and laugh at you all for wildly underestimating Squall).


So, Dp ends up looking like a genius... >_>
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/29/2006 6:45:09 PM | message detail | #480
Solid Snake................82.15% 89697
Soma Cruz.................17.85% 19487
TOTAL VOTES.......................109184

96.53% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Snake ain't playing no games! He makes Soma look like fodder...or perhaps Soma is fodder. Who knows...

Today, Squall is...embarrassing Tidus. He's used to it though.

Lopen - 5
Ulti - 4
KH - 3
Moltar - 3
Yoblazer - 1
Guest (Wigs) - 1
HM - 1

KH gets another point with his highest pick.
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Squall vs. Tidus - Bracket: Squall - Vote: Squall (16/17)
Garsha_III | Posted 9/29/2006 8:01:18 PM | message detail | #481
Are there any archives to past Analyses from the crew?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 8:19:29 PM | message detail | #482
Yup.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/9

Oh, and HOT DAMN KAY AITCH IS PUMMELIN' DA CREW seems appropriate here.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/29/2006 8:35:07 PM | message detail | #483
Patriot Division: Round 1 - Match 19 – (3)Riku vs. (6)Yoshi

Moltar’s Analysis

Riku
Game/Series Known From: Kingdom Hearts
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 45th (18.43%) - Adjusted Value: 36th (22.12%)
Seed in 2005: 4
Lost in 2005 to Frog in Round 1

Looks like KH2 brings Riku back to the Contest-setting.

Yoshi
Game/Series Known From: Super Mario
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 23rd (27.05%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 38th (18.26%) - Adjusted Value: 26th (25.22%)
Extraploated Rank in 2005: 32nd (22.69%) - Adjusted Value: 27th (26.59%)
Seed in 2003: 4
Seed in 2004: 5
Seed in 2005: 3
Lost in 2003 to Bowser in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Link in Round 3
Lost in 2005 to Mega Man in Round 3

Yoshi’s seeding may look weak, but this dino is tough.

Seems as if the more time the Contest goes on, the more people bring up this match. I don’t know why though. Yeah, Riku has had KH2, which should make him a bit stronger than last year, but in Yoshi’s league? No way.

Yoshi is a strange case as it is. He always performs very well on opponents weaker than him, but then he always ends up facing a Nintendo character stronger than he is in the end, and thus suffers SFF every year. 2003 is the closest to a real value we have on him, and since then, there have been Nintendo boosts and such. Finally, this year we may actually get an accurate value on Yoshi! Right now, he’s projected to have a close match against Dante, which would put him near 30% on BL. I wouldn’t think of putting Riku that high. In fact, I’d go as far to say that Yoshi/Sora would be nearly even.

So yeah, unless you think Mega Man’s performance against Yoshi wasn’t SFF, this match isn’t in any question. Yoshi wins without much trouble.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Yoshi will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Riku: 40% - Yoshi: 60%



Ulti’s Analysis

We've never had a good reading on Yoshi. Ever. He was behind SFF in 2003, 2004 AND 2005 (Bowser, Link, Mega Man). The best people can do is extrapolate Yoshi through other characters and hope his value is accurate.

Which means little here, because Riku ain't winning even with KH2.

Prediction: Yoshi with 59.01%



HM’s Analysis

Unless I’m mistaken, this is the first Nintendo/Square match-up of the contest! What will ultimately become the norm this contest, the Nintendo character looks primed to take care of business. Yoshi came out with as a beneficiary of the Nintendo Boost last year, and may even get another smaller boost this year thanks to the increased DS ownership and NSMB. Riku, on the other hand, looks to be coming off a strong showing in Kingdom Hearts II. Some have speculated that he may have some upset potential, but I’m just not seeing it myself.

The only way Yoshi can have trouble winning this one is if he is overrated. Personally, I don’t see him being overrated by very much, if at all, from where he stood in 2005. I don’t necessarily buy the “Luigi is his floor” business, but where he sits now is far out of Riku’s reach, even with KH2. Despite how some expect a close match, I’m expecting a clear favoring toward Mario’s dinosaur companion. Yoshi wins this won without trouble, racking up one of many wins for Nintendo.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Yoshi

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Yoshi – 56% ; Riku – 44%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Yoshi



Yoblazer’s Analysis

I've touted that Riku over Yoshi is one of the best Squall/Luigi, Knuckles/Magus, Master Hand/Kuja-type upsets in this bracket. Other than that, surprisingly, I can't seem to find a single witty or informative thing to write about this one. Hmm... YOSHI IS GOING TO EAT RIKU AND LAY HIM OUT AS AN EGG. HAHA.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/29/2006 8:35:46 PM | message detail | #484
If Riku manages to keep this match somewhat close, it will be a great indicator of Kingdom Hearts II making a significant impact. If he gets beaten easily, it will probably mean that any boosts from the sequal aren't as significant as they were from the original KH. Personally, I think KHII will boost several Square characters. However, I feel that Nintendo will be even more dominant this year than it was in 2005, so I'm giving Yoshi the easy win.

My prediction: Yoshi def. Riku (61-39)



Lopen’s Analysis

Yay, a seeding upset, yay, a seeding upset! It's about ti…

Not so fast, Crewba!

That's right… not so fast. Slow it down… sloowww. At first, I thought this was an easy win for Yoshi, just like all of you. Luigi looked so good last year, and Yoshi beat him 55-45, so therefore Yoshi should look pretty good last year too, right? Oh, forget Mega Man getting equipped with "blow Yoshi's face off… beam", that was SFF, right guys?

Oh yeah, maybe it was SFF. But I've got a different theory. But before I bring that theory up for you readers, I'll give a little Yoshi match history lesson. No, I'm not going to go over every match, I'll just summarize it for you. Basically, we can split Yoshi's matches into three categories:

1. Yoshi kicks the ass of some fodder, we're all very impressed.

2. Yoshi does well against one of his Mario buddies.

3. Yoshi gets stomped by the enemy that isn't one of the above (Mega Man and Link, it's understandable give him a break)

So what we've got here is Yoshi failing to really do anything against something that isn't Mario. One could say… he does well against Mario characters. Whoops!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2328

What the hell was that I just dropped? Some poll? Oh yeah, go look at it. You'll see Yoshi taking some sorta sick pleasure out of kicking the crap out of all his friends again. So I'm thinking… maybe little Yoshi might not have been SFFed against Mega Man at all! Maybe Mega Man v Yoshi was just Mega Man simply refusing to take Yoshi's "bully yer friends" crap.

Alright, now let's assume Mega Man exposed Yoshi as a weakling. Even then, Riku still doesn't have a free pass. Frog did pretty horribly against Samus last year after beating Riku. So Riku didn't look that great either. But… but… we mustn't forget Kingdom Hearts 2. How much could Riku gain from that? Well, I'm sure he'd easily trump Frog were they to rematch, for one. Would it be enough to overtake a Yoshi who isn't really as good as he wants us to think? Yeah, I think so.

So what two things did we just learn here? Yoshi is a horrible friend, a real punk. And also, Kingdom Hearts 2 Boost.

Lopen's Prediction: Riku with 52.76%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

RIKU

"You always were chatty when it came to darkness."

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 36th Place [22.12%]

Riku returns! Fresh off of KH2, it's the first original KH character returning to the bracket...and he's got one whopper of a match ahead of him. A shame that he's in all probability wasted, but it'll be cool to see how he performs and attempt to gauge if even the most minimal of roles in KH2 help characters out. WOO RIKU

YOSHI

"Yoshi!"

Summer 2003 Contest

Extrapolated Strength --- 23rd Place [26.17%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 26th Place [25.22% ]
Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 27th Place [26.59% ]
Master Moltar | Posted 9/29/2006 8:36:41 PM | message detail | #485
The big Mario fan-favorite returns, and is primed to try his hand at another winnable fourpack before bowing out to elite competition. Yoshi is definitely an odd one to gauge, though if you assume that he increased in relative proportion to Bowser and Luigi he's the big favorite for taking down this fourpack. Unfortunately, Yoshi's never really been tested against non-SFF competition around his level of strength. This is a virtual lock for him...but he'll be looking to impress here. WOO YOSHI

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Riku: Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2)
Yoshi: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Riku: N/A
Yoshi: N/A

I know this match is getting some hype...but, I'm sorry, I just can't understand it. KH2 isn't going to allow Sora to beat Mega Man, and I can't see this match being much different from that. I mean, there's a shot here for Riku with some crazy theories, but Yoshi just feels like he's not getting enough credit here. I personally don't care much for the guy, but his potential scares me. I actually struggled on Snake/Yoshi a little...yeah, second Nintendo boost and all that. <_<

Not too much else to see here...though look out for the votals! =D

Karma Hunter's Vote: Riku. Riku ain't much in KH or KH2, but his CoM personality is made of win.

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Yoshi with 58.22%.

...I was tired of going high, anyway! Yeah. <_<

Upset Potential: 9.5%

Hey, I guess it's not impossible...with an overestimated Yoshi and a crazy KH2F, it could happen. Still, 48% on the Frog I saw in 2005 is not too assuring.

Ah, well. Go get 'em, Riku.

Upset Prediction: Riku with 52.46%



Guest’s Analysis - BigBob

When I was filling out my bracket, Riku/Yoshi was the match that put a snag in my bracket. Sure, matches like The Boss/Celes and Terra/Kerrigan made me pause for a moment, but when I saw this match I just kinda stopped. I ended up filling the rest of the bracket as much as I could before I finally had to decide on a winner here.

With good reason, too. 2k3 proved Kingdom Hearts was a force to be reckoned with, as all the Square cameos overperformed like crazy that year. Sora has done well despite his beating at the hands of Snake last year, and Riku nearly beat Frog BEFORE Kingdom Hearts II. On the other hand, nobody really knows where Yoshi stands. He got SFF'd to death by Link in 2k4, and may have been SFF'd by Mega Man last year. This will be the first year Yoshi isn't going to die in a SFF match, and the first chance we'll get to see how strong he is. He may end up strong enough to beat Dante (which I agonized over just as much as this match), or he could lose to Riku in round 1.

The sheer randomness of these two characters is what makes this match so hard to call. I picked Yoshi, but the upset potential is there.

Yoshi with 53.4%.



Crew Consensus: Majority says Yoshi, Lopen says Riku. Consensus seems to be Yoshi in the mid-to-high 50's.
DpObliVion | Posted 9/29/2006 8:47:16 PM | message detail | #486
DpOblivion's Quick Analysis:

Riku vs. Yoshi, finally. Kingdom Hearts is pretty popular right now, but I have a hard time believing that a KH character other than the main character could beat a Nintendo legend and Mario party member. As popular as KH is....SMW and SSBM are more popular.

My vote: Yoshi
My bracket: Yoshi
My prediction: Yoshi with 61%

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DpObliVion | Posted 9/29/2006 8:51:15 PM | message detail | #487
*looks at my Squall prediction*

*looks at the Crew's Squall prediction*

Yeah........that's why I don't belong in the Crew (that, or I'll look like a genius and laugh at you all for wildly underestimating Squall).


HA! I just killed the crew with my Squall/Tidus prediction.

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/29/2006 9:51:27 PM | message detail | #488
Almost 500
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Big Bob | Posted 9/29/2006 10:15:30 PM | message detail | #489
As much as I like Yoshi and though it would hurt my bracket, seeing Riku pull the upset would silence so many naysayers.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/29/2006 11:52:40 PM | message detail | #490
Squall Leonhart vs. Tidus
+7 KH
+6 Mo
+5 Yo
+4 HM
+3 Lo
+2 Ulti
+1 Guest

The Rankings (Through Squall vs. Tidus)
1. Karma Hunter (86)
2. Master Moltar (78)
3. UltimaterializerX (74)
4. Heroic Mario (70)
4. Yoblazer (70)
6. Lopen (56)
7. Board 8 (48)

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 11:53:48 PM | message detail | #491
Another good start for me! <_<
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/30/2006 3:03:38 AM | message detail | #492
Damn man, you're going for 4 in a row with this one. Hopefully Yoshi stays constant.
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Lugia2 | Posted 9/30/2006 5:37:21 AM | message detail | #493
Lopen shoots himself in the foot once again!

Also, great job Karma Hunter! I doubt Riku will drop in percentage much- this is a weekend, so no after-school vote- so you probably have this point...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/30/2006 8:45:19 AM | message detail | #494
Riku's looking impressive here...*too* impressive. I'm going to end up losing my streak to Aitch Emm of all people! =(
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LusterSoldier | Posted 9/30/2006 12:26:13 PM | message detail | #495
Riku's stealing the day vote now.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2006 6:51:58 PM | message detail | #496
New topic is up...should get to saving this one...
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Riku vs. Yoshi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (17/18)
MarkSmith | Posted 9/30/2006 6:52:44 PM | message detail | #497
501
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MarkSmith | Posted 9/30/2006 6:53:17 PM | message detail | #498
teh 500?
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 9/30/2006 6:53:35 PM | message detail | #499
Yay, I got Terra!
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ChaoChaoSuperqq | Posted 9/30/2006 6:53:49 PM | message detail | #500
Hehehe.
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