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| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:51:38 PM | message detail | #001 |
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Yeah, it's a little past Spring, but we still have a Contest, and where
there is a Contest, there is a Crew ready and willing to analyze it. For those new to the board, the Contest Analysis Crew is a group of people led by Yours Truly that analyze each match in the current contest and give our predictions of what we think will happen and who will win. It started back with the Spring Contest in 2004, and since then has been very successful. With each Contest seemingly comes a new Crew. It started small back in 2004, but since then has grown in size every Contest. This one is no different, as we now have 9 people on the Crew analyzing the Series Contest. So for those of you who like to read, you're in luck. We've got write-ups for every match; from Zelda vs. Civilization to the Finals, ranging from serious and in-depth, to just plain silly and fun. We all had a great time doing these, and we hope you all enjoy reading them. Now, without further ado, I'll introduce you to this Contest's Crew. To spice things up, I’ll compare the Analysis Crew to members of the Cartoon Network hit anime show, BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo. For reference, you can find your character here: http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/4765/bobobo0um.png I think I would be most like BoBoBo. Not only because he’s the main character, but because we’re both just so darn random and hilarious and awesome. UltimaterializerX would be Don Patch. He’s the most popular and demands the most face time. It’s ok though, because we all love that jerk anyway. XxSoulxX would be Gasser. Not as noticed as BoBoBo or Don Patch, but he has his moments of awesomeness and really does step it up on certain occasions. LeonhartForever is most like Jelly Jiggler. He pretends to be all serious and stuff, but really, he’s just as silly as the rest of us. Both also have strange obsessions. Heroic Mario, I would think, is most like Softon. Not because his predictions stink (;;>_>), but because he delivers when most people need something (like sales info). Yoblazer would be Beauty, not because he’s a girl or his stunning good looks, but because he’s the least silly of the group and when he bursts out, it isn’t funny most of the time (<_<;;). Therealmnm is most like the Narrator. Sometimes behind the scenes and quiet, but often bursts out with something smart and important. HaRRich is like Hatenko. The most mysterious of the group. The one we know the least about, except that he might be secretly evil. We’re on to you… Lopen is most like Dengakuman. Cute and harmless, with his silly little picks. All he wants is your love, affection, and attention! Part 2 is about to hit 500, so might as well make a new topic for the last and biggest 2 matches! --- Moltar Status: Wanting you to Nominate Shadow the Hedgehog! Legend of Zelda vs. Metal Gear - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: MG (46/48) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:52:25 PM | message detail | #002 |
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Final Four: Match 30 – (1)Super Mario Bros. vs. (1)Final Fantasy Moltar’s Analysis Super Mario Bros. - Match Weapon: Fire Flower Round 1 – 92.21% vs. Madden NFL (7.79%) Round 2 – 81.13% vs. Warcraft (18.87%) Round 3 – 61.76% vs. Super Smash Bros. (38.24%) SSB surprises and does pretty well against SMB. Final Fantasy - Match Weapon: Guys who look like girls Round 1 – 85.98% vs. Diablo (14.02%) Round 2 – 74.19% vs. Mega Man (25.81%) Round 3 – 76.06% vs. Resident Evil (23.94%) Final Fantasy beats Resident Evil worse than it did Mega Man In the second match of the Final Four, we have our first meeting between the Big Three series of this tournament. This is exciting people! So exciting, I feel the need to look at these two series’ past matches! In Round 1, both series looked very dominant, SMB dispatching of Madden with over 92% of the vote, while FF beat Diablo, who’s series isn’t even fodder, with nearly 86%. In the next round, SMB continued to look strong by getting 81% on Warcraft, which “upset” Grand Theft Auto before. However, Final Fantasy wasn’t fazed. In fact, it went to then nearly triple Mega Man and STILL get 100,000 votes in the match. I’d consider Mega Man one of the strongest series outside of the Big 3, so that’s quite impressive. Then in Round 3, SMB finally shows some weakness by letting SSB get 38% on it, in a match where most thought it would be SFFed into the ground. Final Fantasy continued to look impressive by getting 76% on Resident Evil, though most expected that. And now we reach this match. Well, overall Final Fantasy has looked more impressive, and judging from what we have seen, it is the stronger series of the two. Most people figured that even before the Contest started. However, Super Mario Bros. should look pretty good in this match. This is good old-fashioned Nintendo vs. Square after all. Let’s break down the possible results. FF beats SMB with over 60%: You might as well just give the tournament to Final Fantasy right there. I couldn’t see Zelda doing that without SFF. FF beats SMB from anywhere between 55 and 60%: Respectable win, but doesn’t make it a lock over Zelda. I’d still consider it the favorite though. FF beats SMB from anywhere between 50 and 55%: Final Fantasy isn’t looking good going into the Finals, and Zelda has a good chance to pull off the win from there. SMB beats FF: Well…that’s just crazy talk! LoZ would then slaughter SMB in an SFF beatdown. I think it will land in either the 1st or 2nd one. If you had asked me before the Contest, I probably would have said FF with around 60%, so things haven’t changed too much. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Final Fantasy will win. Moltar’s Prediction is: Super Mario Bros.: 40% - Final Fantasy: 60% Ulti’s Analysis Outside influence (ie, Tanya kind of wants me to go upstairs asap for reasons I'm not sharing with you people <_<) is forcing me to keep this short. Uh.... FF is the clear favorite, though I think Mario has a chance to perform well. Mario may not win outright, but I'm just hoping he breaks 44% so I can steal creativename's sig for a bit. Prediction: FF with 55.99% Soul’s Analysis Mario defeated Super Smash Bros. with 61.76% FF defeated Resident Evil with 76.06% Two matches remaining. Three of the strongest competitors remaining. Now it's time to bring it down to two. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 7/30/2006 8:52:42 PM | message detail | #003 |
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Tag Go Mario! --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Street Fighter Alpha 3, New Super Mario Bros. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:53:01 PM | message detail | #004 |
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There is no doubt that Mario is part of the three strongest series in
this contest. Mario has been on a spree lately, with only one
disappointing win. It was the only series to put up a 90%+ performance
against the jobber known as Madden, then went on to defeat Warcraft
(which is about equal to GTA!) with over 81% of the vote! The
disappointing win came at the hands of SSB because Mario only got 61%
against it. But SSB is most likely the fourth strongest series in this
contest (screw you MG). Hell, SSB even got 57% on SONIC! SSB was
packing major heat, but Mario extinguished it pretty easily. It wasn't
the 70%+ win that a lot of us predicted, but it was still a strong
showing nonetheless. Final Fantasy started this contest as the statistical favorite to win it all. During the first two rounds, it continued to look that way. It blasted out of the gate with an 86% performance on Diablo, and followed suit with a 74% win over the very tough Mega Man. After those two matches, it slipped. Facing a relatively easy third round match in Resident Evil, FF was only able to score 76% on it. That's pretty startling if you took FF to win it all, but is it bad enough to make FF lose to Mario? Unlikely. I mean, Mario has a small chance at winning, but FF is the vast favorite in this one. In character contests, the top three involves LoZ and Final Fantasy. Villains contest it was FF and LoZ. Games it was FF and LoZ. Basically, Mario is strong enough to hang around with them, but not strong enough to actually beat them. Also, Diablo > Warcraft. No one should ever doubt me on this again! My prediction: Final Fantasy wins with 58.95% of the vote. Leon’s Analysis Ahh, finally, the climactic showdown between Super Mario Brothers and Final Fantasy…isn’t looking to be that exciting at all. Really, the only reason to believe that Mario even has a chance to win (or ever had a chance, even before this contest) is the same reason that people have been taking him to win contests from the beginning: “Because it’s MARIO!” Okay, that may hold water against Samus, but Final Fantasy is an entirely differently ballgame. Even after Mario had finished a dominating run through the SC2K5 bracket, Sephiroth humbled him right from the beginning, holding him to two update wins that don’t even total 10 votes and one tied update. Yeah, that’s the power of Final Fantasy, folks. As much as Super Mario Brothers may “deserve” to win this match, it ain’t gonna happen. Sure, it may be head and shoulders above the rest of the field, but it’s still a notch below the two big dogs. It’s already got a 60/40 disadvantage between its strongest game and Final Fantasy’s strongest game, and Final Fantasy VI isn’t that far behind Super Mario Brothers 3 either. Plus, there’s the very real possibility that you get to Final Fantasy’s third (or maybe even fourth, depending on what you think of Final Fantasy VIII) strongest game before you get to Mario’s second strongest. The contest performances don’t speak too highly of Super Mario Brothers’s chances either, regardless of what others may say. Sure, it got the biggest blowout of the contest against Madden, but come on…It’s Madden. Nobody on GameFAQs cares about sports. Plus, Final Fantasy did much better on a Blizzard franchise, and regardless of what people say, I can’t see Warcraft being much stronger than Diablo. Honestly, if it weren’t for the rallying factor, I’m not so sure it’d be stronger at all. Warcraft has to be worth 60%+ on Diablo for Super Mario Brothers to win, and…I can’t see that. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:53:28 PM | message detail | #005 |
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Of course, as others say, “measuring through fodder” isn’t always a
fruitful enterprise (I don’t necessarily agree, but I’ll let it slide),
so let’s look at their matches against the stronger foes. Final Fantasy
came close to tripling Mega Man, which should be the sixth or seventh
strongest series at worst and did even better against Resident Evil,
which has some strength in its own right. Super Mario Brothers, on the
other hand, as an entire series couldn’t even outdo what Final Fantasy
VII as a single game did against Super Smash Brothers. I’ll grant some
leeway in the idea that Super Smash Brothers is noticeably stronger
than just Melee, and that the series has grown in strength since 2004,
but the point stands. And here’s the thing: Super Smash Brothers has to get 66.25% on Mega Man for Super Mario Brothers just to be equal to Final Fantasy. Feel free to think that, if you’d like, but I don’t see it even breaking 60% there. Sonic the Hedgehog would have to get 60.15% on Mega Man for those two to be equal, and I find that to be highly unlikely as well. Sonic and Mega Man are more likely to be equals, in my opinion. Yeah, I know, people want to say that the stats for this contest are going to be worthless, and for the most part that’s true, but I think these particular numbers hold water. Diablo/Warcraft and Sonic/Mega Man both point to 60%+ wins for Final Fantasy, in my opinion, and if you think that Super Smash Brothers suffered SFF against Super Mario Brothers, the gap only widens. Good luck, Mario. You’re gonna need all you can get here. Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy with 61.60% HM’s Analysis Super Mario Bros. Previous Matches : Super Mario Bros – 92.21% -- 108,723 Madden NFL – 7.79% -- 9,186 Super Mario Bros. – 81.13% -- 97,775 WarCraft – 18.87% -- 22,741 Super Mario Bros. – 61.76% -- 76,533 Super Smash Bros. – 38.24% -- 47,386 Final Fantasy Previous Matches : Final Fantasy – 85.98% -- 107,648 Diablo – 14.02 -- 17,560 Final Fantasy – 74.19% -- 100,574 Mega Man – 25.81% -- 34,988 Final Fantasy – 76.06% -- 103,552 Resident Evil – 23.94% -- 32,602 Looks like we finally get to witness a match between the Big Three. People have been entertaining the idea of Super Mario Bros. upsetting Final Fantasy since the contest was originally announced. The interesting part was it actually didn’t look that bad in the beginning. SMB came out with a monstrous blowout of Madden NFL that turned quite a few heads, even if it was just Madden. Then it turned around and had a somewhat comparable blowout against Warcraft. But it wasn’t until SMB’s match against SSB that is showed its vulnerability. Final Fantasy? Yeah, it continued its scary dominating. In the last round, Super Mario Bros. got “exposed,” you could say. It was the first time we have ever seen one of the Big Three show signs of weakness. This was more than just a chink in the armor; this was something that could put doubt in SMB’s ability to hang with Final Fantasy and Zelda. The fact that it barely managed to do better than Final Fantasy VII did against Super Smash Bros. Melee should speak for itself. SMB’s chances in this match are practically zero. Everything we have seen so far points to Final Fantasy winning and with absolute ease. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:54:01 PM | message detail | #006 |
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On Final Fantasy’s side, it continued to do its thing by more than
tripling Resident Evil. It may have been somewhat under people’s
expectations who were expecting an 80%+ SFFing or whatever, but still
an impressive performance. Interestingly, Final Fantasy’s most
impressive performance of the entire contest may have been in round 1 –
the only round where Cloud was present in the picture. No doubt that
Mega Man and Resident Evil may be stronger series, but you have to
wonder if Cloud being in the picture could affect things a bit in the
percentage. After all, Cloud is the star of Final Fantasy – the only character to ever defeat Link. Final Fantasy should have no problem taking care of Super Mario Bros. here. Nothing has pointed to SMB being able to hang with Final Fantasy. Each round, Final Fantasy has been more impressive, more domineering, and easily the scarier of the two. From the looks of it, Final Fantasy has a real claim to being the absolute peak of contest performance. We are not likely to see anything stronger than this beast here. The same beast that was able to put up 100,000+ individual votes when getting 74% against Mega Man. Personally, I was always hoping that Final Fantasy could put up a 60%+ performance against SMB when the two faced off. I expected there to be a sizable gap between the two and I expect Final Fantasy to get the championship with 55% of the vote. The gap between Zelda and Mario should be enough there for Final Fantasy to snatch up 60%, I think. It only helps that SMB had a rather poor performance against SSB the previous round. Aitch Emm’s Bracket : Final Fantasy Aitch Emm’s Prediction : Final Fantasy – 60% ; Super Mario Bros – 40% Aitch Emm’s Vote : Final Fantasy Yoblazer’s Analysis Wow, what a picture; Mario looks awesome in both the foreground and background pics. Final Fantasy, on the other hand, has a not-so-recognizable generic character and a female whose game hasn't even been released in the US. Advantage: Super Mario Bros. Unfortunately, whatever advantage Mario can muster here won't really matter. As strong as he is, FF has always been one of the two strongest entities on this site, and up until very recently (like, a few days ago), most people would have called it the strongest without hesitation. Not only does it have the biggest game in GameFAQs history, but it's loaded with other popular games from every console generation. Final Fantasy will win the match, of course, but this is Mario's chance to overperform, thereby causing our anticipated final to look very interesting. Will he do it? I sure hope so. Super Mario Bros. + Several games from which to draw popularity + Most of those games are pretty damn strong in their own right + Most recognized series in gaming history + Broke Warcraft over its knee - Disappointing performance last round - Simply isn't strong enough Final Fantasy + Strongest game on this site + Several other very popular games + Spans several consoles and eras + It's the backbone of GameFAQs + Credibility up the wazoo - Nothing My prediction: Final Fantasy def. Super Mario Bros. (56-44) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:54:29 PM | message detail | #007 |
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Mnm’s Analysis Battle Music: Bowser Fight (SMRPG) Final Fantasy! Prepare yourself for the great beyond! Okay, I've said since the beginning that I expect SMB to bring the fight to Final Fantasy, and I'm not changing my stance on that. Sure, Super Mario Bros. may have looked a little human against SSB (which is no slouch) mind you, but that doesn't change my thoughts. I could care less that SMB doing well against FF makes SSB look like a powerhouse in the X-stats. I could care less what these X-stats look like anyways. This is friggin' Super Mario Bros. vs. Final Fantasy. I just don't see SMB simply rolling over to Final Fantasy like everybody thinks. This is reminiscent of last year's Spring Contest where everyone expected Sephiroth to roll over Bowser and Ganondorf, with the Nintendo duo then surprising everyone by breaking 40% on Seph. And I'll tell you that SMB and LoZ are totally different beasts than Bowser and Ganon. I said before that I expected SMB to get between 43-45% on FF, and I'm sticking with it! Bracket: FF Vote: SMB Prediction: Final Fantasy with 55.75% HaRRich’s Analysis Predicted winner: Final Fantasy Earlier this contest: ---SMB - 92.21% on Madden NFL, 81.13% on Warcraft, 61.76% on Super Smash Bros. ---FF - 85.98% on Diablo, 74.19% on Mega Man, 76.06% on Resident Evil Top 100 List comparison: ---SMB3 - #5, SM64 - #13, SMB - #22, SMW - #23, SMW2:YI - #82 ---FF7 - #1, FF3/6 - #10, FFX - #12, FF8 - #17, FFT - #19, FF9 - #42, FF2/4 - #50, FF - #76, FFTA - #89 Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---SMB3 - 39.9% (8 Division champion), SMW - 34.24%, SM64 - 21.93% (SFF'd by LoZ:OoT, has since had SM64DS released) ---FF7 - 50% (Best. Game. Ever. champion), FF3/6 - 39.4%, FFX - 36.86%, FF - 32.24%, FFT - 28.69% (was behind FF7/MGS), FFTA - 24.27% (SFF'd by FFX) FF has hardly shown any signs of weakness...and SMB showed weakness last round in what was supposed to be an SFF match. I would consider Diablo to probably be no weaker than 45% against Warcraft (head-to-head), and it's a tough sell that SMB would indirectly double Mega Man (I'd expect more like 65-35), so those two spell trouble for SMB. I also think that, should SMB break 40%, that LoZ would become the deserving favorite in the championship -- we have a Nintendo-series poll (from 2001, unfortunately) that features LoZ getting 50.05% against every other Nintendo franchise at the time (Mario had 24.4%), Mario got 37.47% against Link in 2k2, Mario is expected to get 39.59% against Link in 2k5, LoZ has two games that are bigger than any Mario game, and LoZ has the only game that can compete with FF7. We'll see what happens, of course, but FF needs to impress despite already impressing all contest long. Final Fantasy wins with 61.12% Lopen’s Analysis When the bracket first came out, I was thinking... Final Fantasy has this thing in the bag. After all, Final Fantasy 7 is supposedly considered the best game of all time by a good quarter of the website? And then you've got Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy 10, and even the original Final Fantasy that have proven themselves as no laughing matter in the contests. And most of the rest probably aren't slouches either. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/30/2006 8:54:51 PM | message detail | #008 |
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Ulti just got TAI'D UP AND BOX'D --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:55:02 PM | message detail | #009 |
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As round 1 wore on, though… I started to have my doubts. What a silly
time to have doubts, right? When Final Fantasy beat the holy hell out
of Diablo. But I said to myself… "no, Mario could about match this, I
think". And so, I called for Mario to get 80%+ on Warcraft… and it did!
It too smashed the tar out of a game I'd felt was a worthy competitor…
well, after beating GTA anyway. Oh, sure, it wasn't 85%… but just being
capable
of getting into absurdly high numbers against something I wouldn't call
fodder, it says Mario's coming to play. A blowout is a blowout… people
can say 85% on Squall is that much better than 82% on Squall, but I
just don't think so. This is enough for me. And who knows? Maybe GTA/WC
actually are that much more popular than Diablo, to satisfy the
extrapolaters out there? It's possible. I'd have definitely taken GTA
over RE before the contest... would I have been the only one? Ah, but that was round 2. What about round 3, you ask? Well… that's a bit… Mario just didn't do what I wanted to really inspire confidence, there. Oh, there's no doubt that Super Smash Brothers is a very popular series here… but even so, I expected more than what Mario gave. It was a… discouraging performance. I think Final Fantasy 7 might have outdone what the entire SMB series did against SSBM. But, is this in and of itself condemning? Well, no… SSB isn't nothing… the series is more than just SSBM. And, it's also likely that the Smash series has gained some steam over the years. Still, I was disappointed. SSB might be the fourth most popular series on the site… but is it that much more popular than Mega Man or Metal Gear? But then again… I've been saying it for a while, I think extrapolation is all but worthless in this thing. The voting is just weird. Hell, maybe Smash reverse SFFed Mario? You never know… maybe the Nintendo fans wanted to see a shake up? Maybe SSB got pity votes because people were sure it was going to lose? I don't know… basically what I'm saying is, I'm not thinking this one seemingly subpar performance spells doom for Mario. As the match grows closer, something inside is telling me Mario still has a chance. I don't have as much logic as I'd like behind it, either. The main thing I keep thinking of is this old saying, and it goes as so: "It's freaking Mario!". It worked against Samus… but then again, it doesn't work against Cloud or Sephiroth, some fools from one Final Fantasy game. Super Mario Brothers 3, almost certainly the most popular of the games… it gets upstaged by Final Fantasy 7 with ease. Not to say Mario doesn't have some advantages of his own. He definitely owns the "NES era" of games. Age is in his corner, no doubt. He's also got a decisive edge in the portable area. And what other series can claim that 99% of GameFAQs has played one of their games in Super Mario Brothers 3? The picture also favors Mario, pretty heavily, I'd say, for whatever that's worth (but at least it's not Vaan!). Also, remember last year's villain contest where Sephiroth did much worse than expected on Ganondorf and Bowser? People might just anti-vote the "obvious champion" (yes I do think this is what happened with Dorf/Bowser) with the finals being so close. Oh, but that's not all… prepare to scream at me now, I've got one last interesting theory in me yet! Were I to objectively call a series the "best ever", I'd just have to give it to Super Mario Brothers. I can't do that for characters, or even games, but for series, the "objective choice" leaps out at me! Am I the only one that thinks this? I doubt it. Sure, it's a popularity contest, but maybe at least some people will be corrupted by this way of thinking? "Super Mario Brothers "deserves" to win"? If any competitor in one of these things is ever going to get votes based on that idea, it's right here. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:55:54 PM | message detail | #010 |
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Do I really think it's going to win? Am I just trying to
inject hype into a match which is sadly "obvious"? Just trying to give
all of those Mario pickers out there a bit of hope? Tainted beyond
repair by wishful thinking? I'm really not sure, anymore. All I know is
right now, I see Mario as the bigger threat than Zelda for FF. It's
just got a little something extra that transcends "Games X, Y, and Z
from Series A are more popular than Games 7, 8, and 9 from Series 2".
And Mario'll need that to win, as Final Fantasy clearly has the
advantage in that game, against all comers (over you too, Zelda). Either way, I think this match is gonna be surprisingly close. And so I figure… I could predict Final Fantasy with 51%… but why not just go all the way? What's the difference? Yeah, my bracket has FF, but I wish it had Mario… and not just because I'm down 8 points! I really do think the upset could pay off. Fight, Mario! Eliminate the perfects! You're our only hope! Lopen's Prediction: Super Mario Brothers with 50.05% Comments: Other than Lopen, everyone thinks it'll be an easy Final Fantasy win. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/30/2006 8:57:01 PM | message detail | #011 |
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Fact: If you ever pick a series to win by less than 52%, you're having
a hard time convincing even yourself that it's going to happen, and
thusly you are screwed. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/30/2006 8:59:04 PM | message detail | #012 |
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And for no reason at all, the picture I submitted for the final match (cause SMB gon' lose!) http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3453/gfaqslozffcopynf9.png --- Moltar Status: Wanting you to Nominate Shadow the Hedgehog! Legend of Zelda vs. Metal Gear - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: MG (46/48) |
| Sir Crono | Posted 7/30/2006 9:00:13 PM | message detail | #013 |
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People might just anti-vote the "obvious champion" Too bad a good chunk of the casuals don't see FF as the obvious champion, huh? --- As you wish. |
| shadow8021 | Posted 7/30/2006 9:00:48 PM | message detail | #014 |
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Tag --- Series Contest Score: 44/48 Today's Pick: The Legend of Zelda |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/30/2006 9:01:18 PM | message detail | #015 |
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If that pic isn't selected as one of them, it's a sham. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Sir Crono | Posted 7/30/2006 9:01:44 PM | message detail | #016 |
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And odd that Lopen's analysis covered all the basic points as to why
there's any reason to pick Mario: It's Mario, he deserves it, and it
feels right. --- As you wish. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/30/2006 9:02:36 PM | message detail | #017 |
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I'm hoping Lopen gets this point. --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune stingers, Rad, longblade, and Ryoko owned me in a sig bet and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/30/2006 9:03:44 PM | message detail | #018 |
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Perfect 500th post. And when your analysis is "I'm just feelin' it and I hope so," chances are you're just looking for something that isn't there. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/30/2006 9:04:51 PM | message detail | #019 |
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And when your analysis is "I'm just feelin' it and I hope so," chances are you're just looking for something that isn't there. Hey now. My analysis said that DK would beat MC because of that... and I came pretty close! --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune stingers, Rad, longblade, and Ryoko owned me in a sig bet and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 7/30/2006 9:06:45 PM | message detail | #020 |
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The Legend of Zelda vs. Metal Gear +9 Ulti +8 mnm +7 yo +6 Leon +5 Soul +4 Moltar +3 HaRRicH +2 Lopen +1 HM The Rankings (Through The Legend of Zelda/Metal Gear) 1. Master Moltar (132) 2. yoblazer33 (130) 3. UltimaterializerX (117) 4. XxSoulxX (115) 5. Leonhart (109) 6. therealmnm (108) 7. Heroic Mario (94) 8. HaRRicH (87) 9. Lopen (77) --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/30/2006 9:07:22 PM | message detail | #021 |
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DK would win every match if the general public had any taste! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/30/2006 9:08:06 PM | message detail | #022 |
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Thankfully, they don't and would rather vote Link over anything. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/30/2006 9:10:48 PM | message detail | #023 |
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THANKFULLY!? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/30/2006 9:11:15 PM | message detail | #024 |
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Well, thankfully they don't prefer Donkey Kong that highly. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/30/2006 9:20:07 PM | message detail | #025 |
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Nice pic, but who are the bottom 2 people on the FF side? I think the first is Edgar, but I'm not sure. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/30/2006 9:21:02 PM | message detail | #026 |
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Since when did Edgar have a scar? That's Squall and Kefka. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| satai_delenn | Posted 7/30/2006 9:26:45 PM | message detail | #027 |
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...Lopen's analysis isn't just "I'm feelin' it and I hope
so." Read it again. He has actual reasons to think that Mario might be
able to pull the upset off, based on his perceptions of the way the
voters may be thinking. The majority of the voters aren't looking at
x-stats and percentages. They're voting for the game series they like
better and/or think is the best series ever. So Lopen's analysis isn't
just wishful thinking, it has a basis in logic. I mean, obviously Mario
winning would be a major upset--but it isn't impossible. --- "I know now, without a doubt. Kingdom Hearts...is waffles!" I'll Avada Kedavra ya into a hearse! -Ed Bellis...thank you, B8 rap battle |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/30/2006 9:27:53 PM | message detail | #028 |
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He has actual reasons to think that Mario might be able to pull the
upset off, based on his perceptions of the way the voters may be
thinking No, saying it's MARIO, he "deserves" it, and such are just wishful thinking. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/30/2006 9:29:12 PM | message detail | #029 |
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Nice pic, but who are the bottom 2 people on the FF side? Squall and Kefka. --- Give you 10G if you act like a chicken! Yes. No. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/30/2006 9:36:45 PM | message detail | #030 |
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Man, that really sucks -- after my debating earlier, and my pick is
just barely lower than one of the people I was arguing with (though I
know you mentioned you thought around this range, too). Damn you
anyway, Leonhart. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/30/2006 9:38:21 PM | message detail | #031 |
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Don't mess with the best, yo. I picked that particular percentage
because it has some significance in the Mario/Final Fantasy annals. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/30/2006 10:59:10 PM | message detail | #032 |
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I am so not just saying that he's Mario and he deserves
it... I mean I even gave the old "X-Stats reasoning" of GTA > RE. If
I'm wrong, I'm wrong... but don't say I didn't have any reasons besides
a fool's hope and "it's freaking Mario". --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Sir Bormun | Posted 7/30/2006 11:02:28 PM | message detail | #033 |
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And there's a chance that Lopen may just make everyone look like an idiot. We'll see, though. I think we could be seeing another Squall vs. Luigi. --- Need new sig. |
| badazzbuddy117 | Posted 7/30/2006 11:19:40 PM | message detail | #034 |
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go lopen....t3h awesome is in u --- All hail the "Go Halo" monks! Name: Poo MK friend code:352255-222249 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/31/2006 11:57:29 AM | message detail | #035 |
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The Legend of Zelda........73.74% 97633 Metal Gear.......................26.26% 34777 TOTAL VOTES..............................132410 75.72% of the brackets predicted this match correctly. Zelda continues to show no signs of slowing down in this Contest as it easily takes care of Metal Gear, nearly tripling it. Today, SMB is doing very well against Final Fantasy. Looks like we have ourselves a Final match! Soul - 5 Ulti - 4 Leon - 3 Yoblazer - 3 Lopen - 3 HaRRich - 3 Moltar - 3 Mnm - 2 HM - 2 Another point for Ulti for having the higest LoZ pick. --- Moltar Status: Wanting you to Nominate Shadow the Hedgehog! Super Mario Bros. vs. Final Fantasy - Bracket: SMB - Vote: FF (54/56) |
| FantasyFreak999 | Posted 7/31/2006 3:01:15 PM | message detail | #036 |
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tag --- "Run, run, or you'll be well done!" ~Kefka, Final Fantasy 6~ |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/31/2006 3:50:19 PM | message detail | #037 |
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I mean I even gave the old "X-Stats reasoning" of GTA > RE The only problem I had with that is...Yeah, GTA might have been the favorite, but that doesn't mean we would have been right. Either way, kudos to SMB for putting up a great fight. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/31/2006 4:37:02 PM | message detail | #038 |
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Well obviously we might not have been right... but it was a very real
possibility, at least. My point was, although I was clearly biased in
my write-up, there was quite a bit of real reasoning in there for Super
Mario to give Final Fantasy a scare. I don't like having my "analysis
crew cred" belittled, pal! Even though Final Fantasy did win, and I shall be getting a lovely -1 to my score (but who cares about that form of points, really?), I humbly declare myself the true winner. I'm the only one who gave Mario even any thought of an upset... if only I'd gone conservative and went with FF with 51% like I said in my write up! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/31/2006 4:39:16 PM | message detail | #039 |
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The thing is, looking at the final result, Mario really didn't
have much hope for an upset. He's going to lose by over 10,000 votes.
He gave us some excitement, but his chances of actually winning were
slim indeed. So yeah, you should've had FF winning by a slim margin! TOO BOLD, LOPEN! --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/31/2006 4:41:33 PM | message detail | #040 |
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Please, this is only a 5% difference. Yeah, he lost by a good deal, but
I'd hardly call this an unwinnable match. We've seen bigger swings in
rematches in the past. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/31/2006 4:42:05 PM | message detail | #041 |
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Yeah, but we're not talking about rematches. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/31/2006 4:44:22 PM | message detail | #042 |
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We're talking about the match of Final Fantasy vs Super Mario Brothers,
and whether Super Mario Brothers has any chance to win that match. I'm
saying it does, even though in this particular instance it didn't. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/31/2006 4:45:05 PM | message detail | #043 |
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It won't have any chance to win it until Super Mario Galaxy, and even then, I doubt it. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/31/2006 4:49:46 PM | message detail | #044 |
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Oh, right, because Mario and Crono had big time releases between 2k5
and 2k4. And what about that Link fellow? Yeah, he turned that match
with Cloud around huge between 2k4 and 2k3 because of... a boost from
The Four Swords!? HOLY CRAP FOUR SWORDS BOOST WHY HAVEN'T WE BEEN ABLE
TO PIN IT DOWN UNTIL NOW? --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Digital Pad | Posted 7/31/2006 4:51:08 PM | message detail | #045 |
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tag --- SephirothG owes favors now. |
| BeTheMan | Posted 7/31/2006 4:55:26 PM | message detail | #046 |
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Link did have a pretty sweet role in Soul Calibur II, which came out
right at the end of SC2K3 (not in time to impact anything). I'm not
saying that accounts for the switch, but at least he had a couple of
games keeping him in the spotlight. --- ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man? |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/31/2006 4:56:35 PM | message detail | #047 |
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I think it's a little more difficult to swing an entire series around as opposed to swinging just one character. But who knows? Maybe you're right. Voter volatility is weird. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Big Bob | Posted 7/31/2006 4:58:47 PM | message detail | #048 |
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I think Link's 2k4 strength came from the Twilight Princess hype, combined with an Adult Link match picture. --- This space reserved for a new sig. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/31/2006 7:33:09 PM | message detail | #049 |
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I just sent you my FF/LoZ analysis, Moltar. --- Give you 10G if you act like a chicken! Yes. No. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/31/2006 9:38:59 PM | message detail | #050 |
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This should be interesting. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
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