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Spring 2006 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2
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| FFDragon | Posted 7/25/2006 4:27:57 PM | message detail | #401 |
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With a better pic, this match isn't even close. --- Married to PepsiPlunge June 01, 2005: HERO'S PLUNGE! (Metal Gear Solid 2) |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 4:30:41 PM | message detail | #402 |
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Of course it isn't. Because we can prove that. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| MnMZero | Posted 7/25/2006 5:49:33 PM | message detail | #403 |
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Because you can? You can't prove it either way... You can still speculate though. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Mega Man X in Best. Series. Ever. Contest |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 5:51:07 PM | message detail | #404 |
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I never said I could prove it, but then again, I don't have to. I'm not the one looking for excuses here. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 6:43:42 PM | message detail | #405 |
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Yo, Moltar. I've sent in all of my round 3 analyses. Let me know if you got them. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 10:28:02 PM | message detail | #406 |
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Hyrule Division: Round 3 - Match 25 – (1)Legend of Zelda vs. (2)Metroid Moltar’s Analysis Legend of Zelda - Just imagine it after Twilight Princess! Round 1 – 89.97% vs. Civilization (10.03%) Round 2 – 80.32% vs. Mega Man X (19.68%) MMX fails to break even 20% on the LoZ series. Metroid - Going to be just another victim. Round 1 – 70.57% vs. Kirby (29.43%) Round 2 – 52.56% vs. Pokemon (47.44%) Pokemon ends up stronger than most of us thought and gives Metroid a challenge. Round 3, another Zelda match, oh boy. I guess since FF got 100K against MM without even getting the tripling, it’s time for Zelda to show off. Before Metroid stuggled with Pokemon, LoZ was beating MMX with over 80% of the vote. Now, the original Mega Man series was abole to avoid getting doubled by Final Fantasy. So this means either the original is stronger or MMX suffered some SFF…or a combination of both. Whatever the case, with LoZ able to SFF anything from Nintendo while Metroid can’t seem to SFF anything from Nintendo, this is looking back for Samus’ series. That’s not it too. We’ve already seen Link to the Past take on Super Metroid and triple it. Now add in the rest of both series and you can add in a little more for Zelda. Metroid could end up weaker than MMX, but I think it can at least scrape up 20%. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Legend of Zelda will win. Moltar’s Prediction is: LoZ: 78% - Metroid: 22% Ulti’s Analysis http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1646 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1639 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1633 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2122 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2115 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1361 And let's not forget about Samus's most recent debacle concerning all-Nintendo matches featuring her presence: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2442 Samus/Kirby was an anomaly, to be frank. Prediction: Zelda with 80.99% Soul’s Analysis LoZ defeated Mega Man X with 80.32% Metroid defeated Pokemon with 52.56% Another round, another SFF beatdown by Legend of Zelda! Hooray! This whole division is going to hell. Seriously. Mega Man is going to be the second strongest game in this division, and it couldn't even break 20% against Zelda. SFF, you killer of all things good. Not much more you can say about this match, really. Metroid underperformed in the last round, and I'll be shocked as all hell if it outranks MMX. My prediction: Legend of Zelda wins with 81.25% of the vote. Mnm’s Analysis Battle Music: Boss Battle 2 (Ridley, SM) Well, we all know what happens when The Legend of Zelda hooks up with another Nintendo series right? SFF up the wazoo. Just ask Super Metroid and Super Mario 64, who are still feeling their respective beatings in the Spring 2004 Games Contest. And this is the strongest Zelda entity that we've seen in a contest setting so far. Metroid has been showing tendencies to get SFF'd, and it's allowing Pokemon to stay close to it only serves as an omen to how bad LoZ will beat it. While Metroid Prime's showing against The Wind Waker showed a little bit of promise, the sheer numbers behind the Zelda franchise will kill Metroid. Seeing how LoZ beat MMX about 80/20, if Metroid can avoid the tripling, call it a moral victory. I personally think that Metroid is stronger than Mega Man X, but it's also more susceptible to SFF from LoZ. Look for a similar beating. Bracket: The Legend of Zelda Vote: Metroid Prediction: The Legend of Zelda with 79.5% (preparing to be boxed in...) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 10:28:37 PM | message detail | #407 |
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Leon’s Analysis Two matches, two 100,000+ vote performances by the Legend of Zelda. That alone should speak for itself. It’s also showing to be a massive vote draw as expected, as its match against Mega Man X ended up being the third highest ever. It already had a cakewalk to the finals of this contest, but it’s looking to be even easier than we originally expected all the time. With Metroid struggling to beat Pokemon (granted, we knew it was going to destroy it anyway, but now it looks to be even uglier than originally anticipated) and Metal Gear failing to double up Fire Emblem, the Legend of Zelda may never know what it feels like to be under 70% until the finals. As far as Metroid is concerned, it was looking pretty good after a 70% showing against Kirby seemingly showed that it was capable of pulling off SFF at all, but then…Pokemon happened. It was an unexpected struggle for Metroid all day, as it was in the 52% range for most of the match and at times had difficulty building its lead, occasionally losing updates. The 6000 vote win was the second closest match up to that point, which virtually nobody would have figured before the Series Contest began. I figured it would have probably get tripled by the Legend of Zelda, but now I’m doubting whether or not it can avoid the quadrupling. Keep in mind that A Link to the Past tripled Super Metroid in the Games Contest, and Ocarina of Time likely would’ve done a little better. I don’t know if it’s stronger than Metroid Prime or not, though I wager it’d be close. In its favor, Prime did manage to avoid being SFF’d by The Wind Waker, but it seems like that would be one of the least likely Zelda games to manage SFF. While I think Metroid could likely beat Mega Man X, I think the overlap with the Legend of Zelda is greater and it will get beaten a little worse. Leonhart’s Prediction: The Legend of Zelda with 82.16% Yoblazer’s Analysis Everyone already knew this match's result before the contest started; the difficulty revolves around predicting just how ugly it will look. After watching Zelda maul Mega Man X and Metroid shockingly struggle with Pokemon, the answer is looking clear - pretty damn ugly. The Legend of Zelda is the god of all things SFF, and Metroid has shown, on more than one occasion, that it is very unimpressive when it comes to swaying the Nintendo fans. We all remember the 74/26 loss A Link to the Past gave Super Metroid in 2004. The question now is whether or not this match will be even more lopsided. I believe that all the other Zelda games do more to strengthen their series (it does have the second strongest game on the site, after all) than Metroid can, so the answer is yes. Zelda earns its third straight quadrupling. The Legend of Zelda + Two of the four most popular games on the site + Many more popular games + The holy grail of Nintendo fans + SFF wrecking machine + Credibility up the wazoo + Extremely impressive Round 2 win - None here Metroid + Lots of credibility + Old school hit and the Primes to get it on the right track again - Very spotty SFF history - Bad, bad Round 2 win - It's up against Zelda My prediction: The Legend of Zelda def. Metroid (81-19) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 10:29:02 PM | message detail | #408 |
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HM’s Analysis The Legend of Zelda Previous Matches : The Legend of Zelda – 89.97% -- 100,163 Civilization – 10.03% -- 11,169 The Legend of Zelda – 80.32% -- 104,400 Mega Man X – 19.68% -- 25,577 Metroid Previous Matches : Metroid – 70.57% -- 75,098 Kirby – 29.43% -- 31, 312 Pokemon – 47.44% -- 59,428 Metroid – 52.56% -- 65,831 Last round was rather interesting both matches, but particularly Metroid’s. It was a total shock to everyone when Pokemon actually made things somewhat interesting at the beginning of the match. On Zelda’s side, it totally blew out Mega Man X in a SFF-esque fashion. It also went on to gather up its second straight match with 100,000+, which is extremely impressive against an actual noteworthy opponent. The Legend of Zelda showed absolutely no mercy last round when it completely decimated Mega Man X. I certainly never suspected it would be able to quadruple Mega Man X, even with potential SFF. Link was only able to double Mega Man, but the series that he comes from absolutely dominated the Blue Bomber’s series. The other notable thing about this match is the fact that Zelda got another 100,000+ votes, which is another unprecedented feat. One thing is pretty clear – Zelda is not allowing Final Fantasy to get all the attention. Metroid, on the other hand, totally bombed against Pokemon. Many of us were expecting a large blowout, certainly larger than what Metroid did against Kirby. But Pokemon was able to make things somewhat interesting. We knew that Samus was not able to SFF things and that the Metroid series as a whole was susceptible to SFF, but wow. Perhaps this speaks of Pokemon’s strength over Metroid’s weakness, but we’ll unfortunately never be able to find out with Zelda ready to lay a SFF smack down. Yeah. This match really does not require much analysis at all. It is clear that Zelda is Nintendo’s top series in this contest. It has the ability to SFF just about anything related to Nintendo, so this match should be a fine example of that. It sucks that we won’t get a good read on this division – I wanted to see how well Star Ocean held up – but it’s unlikely it will ever matter because we’re not likely to ever get this contest again. Aitch Emm’s Bracket : The Legend of Zelda Aitch Emm’s Prediction : The Legend of Zelda – 82% ; Metroid – 18% Aitch Emm’s Vote : The Legend of Zelda Lopen’s Analysis Well, the way I see it, Metroid collapses in situations against Nintendo. You saw Pokemon take it down to size… even though that was part Pokemon not being as hated as we think. Er… anyway, I think at base Metroid's a bit more popular than Mega Man X… but not as much as some would make us believe. I also think that Mega Man X will hold up against Nintendo a bit better than Metroid... because of the PS games, or because it's not Metroid. I don't know. So, what does this all mean? It means that they're going to cancel out, of course! Legend of Zelda is gonna win by about the same as it beat Mega Man X by. Let's subtract 2% from my last pick for good measure. Why two? Because it's the first prime number. … what? Lopen's Prediction: Legend of Zelda with 78.59%. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 10:29:50 PM | message detail | #409 |
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HaRRich’s Analysis Predicted winner: Legend of Zelda Earlier this contest: ---LoZ - 89.97% on Civilization, 80.32% on Mega Man X ---Metroid - 70.57% on Kirby, 52.56% on Pokemon Top 100 List comparison: ---LoZ:OoT - #2, LoZ:LttP - #4, LoZ - #30, LoZ:WW - #45, LoZ:MM - #46 ---Super Metroid - #24, Metroid Prime - #29, Metroid - #65, MP2: Echoes - #74 (Metroid Fusion was on the drop-down list yet didn't make the Top 100 List) Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---LoZ:OoT - 46.18% (32-64 Division runner-up), LoZ:LttP - 41.61% (16 Division runner-up), LoZ:WW - 37.29% (was behind Starcraft), LoZ - 34.49% (8 Divison runner-up) ---Metroid Prime - 33.4% (may have been SFF'd by LoZ:WW, was behind Starcraft), Super Metroid - 21.63% (SFF'd by LoZ:LttP), Metroid - 17.53% (SFF'd by SMB3) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525 Yeah...LoZ alone beat all the other Nintendo franchises combined -- including Metroid and before LoZ:WW -- so there's no way this match is in question as to who's winning. However, look at a few things there: one, that was held before the Gamecube was released...so, while there was no LoZ:WW, Metroid's stock has risen a LOT; MP, MP2, MF, MZM, MP:H, and maybe some other abbreviations I forgot. Two, skim over some of the Metroid-related matches, and you'll see that Samus is both rarely ever dishing SFF (only arguably in Samus/Isaac and Metroid/Kirby) and often hurting because of SFF (SMB3/Metroid, LoZ:LttP/SM, LoZ:WW/MP perhaps, and Mario/Samus)...yet, Samus herself has resisted SFF against Link before, too, despite her biggest games showing weakness to LoZ and Samus being SFF'd hard by a weaker Nintendo character. Three, forget the poll and just compare the series -- as far as generations go, LoZ has outdone Metroid in everything it does, and it arguably has done the same if you compare systems or compare their games in order of their strength (LoZ:OoT/SM, LoZ:LttP/MP, LoZ/Metroid, and so on.....). Last, the leaderboard...if the leaderboard changes any for this match, I'll slap somebody. Everybody on there should have LoZ > Metroid by now. Legend of Zelda wins with 76.12% Comments: Sorry they're a bit late. Connection problems. Anyway, LoZ from anywhere between the high 70's to low 80's. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/25/2006 10:29:56 PM | message detail | #410 |
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LOVE my positioning in this match. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY) |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 10:34:12 PM | message detail | #411 |
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Ahh, Soul, we meet again! This time, HM's boxed in, and I'm at the top! Huzzah! Now I can root for Zelda to destroy Metroid! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 7/25/2006 10:36:15 PM | message detail | #412 |
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I can't believe I'm the third lowest prediction. That's kinda ridiculous. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/25/2006 10:45:19 PM | message detail | #413 |
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Just to make things a bit easier: Leon - 82.16 HM - 82.00 Soul - 81.25 yo - 81.00 Ulti - 80.99 mnm - 79.50 Lopen - 78.59 Moltar - 78.00 HaRR - 76.12 --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/25/2006 10:49:04 PM | message detail | #414 |
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>_< --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/25/2006 10:50:11 PM | message detail | #415 |
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>_< --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 10:52:21 PM | message detail | #416 |
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Just keep in mind that the last time Zelda had a match, I had the
highest prediction then, too, and the one boxed in right below me got
the point. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/25/2006 10:53:17 PM | message detail | #417 |
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Harrich is winning this point, BOOK IT! Zelda with 74.8%. --- Sp2k6: 28/32 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: SF Today: Zelda Tomorrow: Metal Gear - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/25/2006 11:08:42 PM | message detail | #418 |
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Street Fighter vs. Resident Evil +9 Soul +8 HM +7 mnm +6 Moltar +5 yo +4 HaRRicH +3 Ulti -1 Leon -2 Lopen The Rankings (Through Street Fighter/Resident Evil) 1. Master Moltar (109) 2. yoblazer33 (97) 3. XxSoulxX (92) 4. UltimaterializerX (83) 5. therealmnm (81) 6. Leonhart (78) 7. HaRRicH (71) 8. Lopen (65) 9. Heroic Mario (66) --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| Razordragon | Posted 7/25/2006 11:09:52 PM | message detail | #419 |
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8. Lopen (65) 9. Heroic Mario (66) wtf mate. --- Yoshifan PWN'd me. Kingdom Hearts is better than Castlevania. SMB>LOZ. That's right. (Sig bet until 8/22) |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/25/2006 11:22:35 PM | message detail | #420 |
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****, I bet everything on Metroid in the spread betting thing. Oh well. I'm a fool :( --- Sp2k6: 28/32 Rank: Tied for 2162nd Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: SF Today: Zelda Tomorrow: Metal Gear - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 11:32:10 PM | message detail | #421 |
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Harrich is winning this point, BOOK IT More like Leonhart is winning this point! And I needed this one. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/26/2006 1:35:07 AM | message detail | #422 |
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Heh, I at first had LoZ getting 80.12%, but I gave the MP games alot of
extra credit...and we see where I'm at now because of it. Great. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| TheGreatAlucard | Posted 7/26/2006 1:41:50 AM | message detail | #423 |
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Leon steals another point from me! --- All that is necessary for evil to triumph...is for good men to do nothing... -- Alucard |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:23:35 PM | message detail | #424 |
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Heh, that's true. I got the Mario/Madden point from you because my prediction was just a little higher. *makes note to do that more often* --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/26/2006 3:09:30 PM | message detail | #425 |
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8. Lopen (65) 9. Heroic Mario (66) Nice math. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 4:41:43 PM | message detail | #426 |
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Street Fighter.......49.27% 60308 Resident Evil........50.73% 62087 TOTAL VOTES..................122395 55.8% of the brackets predicted this match correctly. Street Fighter comes close, very close, but Resident Evil manages to win, bad pic and all. Today, Legend of Zelda is winning, like you expected otherwise. Soul - 5 Lopen - 3 HaRRich - 3 Moltar - 3 Mnm - 2 Yoblazer - 2 Ulti - 2 HM - 2 Leon - 1 Another point for Soul! --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32) |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:31:49 PM | message detail | #427 |
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8. Lopen (65) 9. Heroic Mario (66) Nice math. I lose. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| TheGreatAlucard | Posted 7/26/2006 7:51:04 PM | message detail | #428 |
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'blazer is just anti-HM!! --- All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. -- Alucard |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 8:09:19 PM | message detail | #429 |
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I just sent you my Final Fantasy v. Resident Evil analysis, so tell me if you have any problems receiving it!! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 9:12:21 PM | message detail | #430 |
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Snake Division: Round 3 - Match 26 – (1)Metal Gear vs. (2)Kingdom Hearts Moltar’s Analysis Metal Gear - MEAL GEAR?!?! Round 1 – 69.9% vs. Soul Calibur (30.1%) Round 2 – 65.23% vs. Fire Emblem (34.77%) Metal Gear fails to double Fire Emblem last round. Kingdom Hearts - KINDGOM HEARTS!!!! Round 1 – 73.12% vs. Harvest Moon (26.88%) Round 2 – 51.33% vs. Castlevania (48.67%) In a close match, Kingdom Hearts barely squeaks by Castlevania In our next match in Round 3, we have Metal Gear vs. Kingdom Hearts, which looks to be the closest match of Round 2. Still, that isn’t really saying much. Last Round, Metal Gear had a bit of trouble with Fire Emblem. While many of us expected FE to be weaker than Soul Calibur, it ended up doing much better. Seems we underestimated it. Kingdom Hearts, on the other hand, came very close to losing against Castlevania. In the end, it was the day vote that gave it the victory. So, is MG in any trouble because it failed to double Fire Emblem while KH beat Castlevania which beat Halo with 55%? No, it isn’t, and- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2116 Oops, I seemed to have dropped this. Oh well, biased match pic and all, KH most likely > Sora, and KH the series is stronger now that KH2 is out, but still that’s quite the gap to make up. Metal Gear has this in the bag, but it’ll be impressive if it could break 60% Moltar’s Bracket Says: Metal Gear will win. Moltar’s Prediction is: Metal Gear: 57% - Kingdom Hearts: 43% Ulti’s Analysis This is such an odd match. As much as I'd like to think that Kingdom Hearts will do well, Snake/Sora kind of makes you wonder if KH is in for another colossal beating. And given that there aren't any stats that will give us a decent idea of how this match will go, it's all guesswork. The only thing people will be certain of is that MGS wins, though Karma Hunter made a great post in a recent stats topic about how KH has a decent enough chance. I'm just too lazy to dig it up. Prediction: MGS with 57.89% Soul’s Analysis Metal Gear defeated Fire Emblem with 65.23% Kingdom Hearts defeated Castlevania with 51.33% Probably the most entertaining division of the entire contest ends with an easy to call match. Metal Gear showed some weakness last round by letting Fire Emblem get 34%. Of course, we don't know how strong FE could be, but it's Metal Gear! You know, the "fourth strongest series in this contest"? Well, I guess you can throw that claim out the window after that performance. Kingdom Hearts went into the last round as the slight favorite (although you wouldn't believe it after reading this topic for that match), and performed rather well. It started out pretty bad, but was able to complete the comeback and win with 51% of the vote. Pretty impressive considering the stregth of Castlevania. So, who's coming out on top of this one? Metal Gear. Why? Simply because it's more popular here. We all saw what Snake did to Sora, and you should expect the same thing here. Yeah, characters do not equal series, but I just don't see how this battle can turn out differently from the last match. People can say that Sora underperformed based on the picture, but I just don't think a picture can have that much of an effect. My prediction: Metal Gear wins with 60.01% of the vote |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 9:13:46 PM | message detail | #431 |
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Leon’s Analysis All Kingdom Hearts needs to perform well is the complete and utter lack of expectations. In the Games Contest, it was predicted to win its four-pack easily and possibly contend for an Elite Eight spot. What does it do? Struggle to defeat Soul Calibur and fails to put up much of a fight against StarCraft. Sora gets doubled by Aeris in SC2K3, leaving him completely devoid of expectation by most of the board. What does he do? Answer: Double up HK-47 (see what I did there?) and get 60% on Ryu Hayabusa before getting a respectable performance on Samus. In SC2K5, Sora was supposed to make Agent 47 look like Neo Tanner, and he barely breaks 70%, leaving his match against Alucard in question. He wins comfortably, leaving people to think he could do very well on Solid Snake. He gets beaten nearly as badly as he did against Samus. Seeing a pattern here? Fast forward to this Series Contest. Before the contest, Kingdom Hearts was the easy favorite to win its four-pack on Board 8 and was even considered to be a sexy upset pick over Metal Gear. In the first round, Kingdom Hearts is expected to put a beatdown of epic proportions on Harvest Moon, and it doesn’t even end up tripling it. Coupled with Castlevania getting 55% on Halo (which outperformed Kingdom Hearts in the Games Contest anyway), and suddenly, expectations disappear. It becomes the minority pick for the second round, and even this very Analysis Crew unanimously picks Castlevania to win. Naturally, Kingdom Hearts comes back from 1200 votes to win by 3400 in the end. Why would you expect anything different? And going into this match with Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts has no aspirations of an upset on the board, which plays right into its hands. It doesn’t have to worry about impressing. It can just do its thing, yo. On the opposite end, Metal Gear was looking to dominate coming into this match after scoring 70% on Soul Calibur. But then Fire Emblem humbled the top seed a bit, managing to avoid the doubling when it was thought to be pure fodder coming into the contest. I don’t know if the sprite round is to blame or if we just underestimated Fire Emblem. It’s hard to say, but it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. Of course, I’d imagine a lot of people are going to be pointing back to Solid Snake/Sora as a basis for an overperformance in this match, but I’m not buying it. Kingdom Hearts is so much more than Sora, no doubt about that. Solid Snake IS Metal Gear, for all intents and purposes. I don’t really know what that’s worth though. However, I’ll probably be in the minority and think that Kingdom Hearts will actually do fairly well for itself here. Expect Metal Gear to start the match with close to 60% and watch Kingdom Hearts whittle away at that percentage all day long. Leonhart’s Prediction: Metal Gear with 55.44% HM’s Analysis Metal Gear Previous Matches : Metal Gear – 69.89% -- 77,349 Soul Calibur – 30.11% -- 33,321 Metal Gear – 65.23% -- 74,017 Fire Emblem – 34.77% -- 39,457 Kingdom Hearts Previous Matches : Kingdom Hearts – 73.12% -- 81,735 Harvest Moon – 26.88% -- 30,051 Castlevania – 48.67% -- 62,435 Kingdom Hearts – 51.33% -- 65,851 The last round was rather interesting for both of these series from my perspective. I had anticipated that Fire Emblem would have the strength to avoid a tripling, much less a doubling, but it managed to do so without too much problem. I, of course, have reason to believe that this had more to do with various other factors over simply Metal Gear’s weakness, like many have suspected. Kingdom Hearts put up a surprising performance in that it actually managed to defeat Castlevania, something I did not consider much of a possibility, but perhaps that was my bias clouding my judgment. Either way, both matches have no effect on the result of this match, where Metal Gear shall win with ease. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 9:14:27 PM | message detail | #432 |
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While it is true that Metal Gear did not manage to double Fire Emblem,
it would be a bit foolish to believe that it was Metal Gear’s weakness
before looking at all of the other various factors. In truth, there is
no one dominant factor, I believe, that made this result happen;
rather, it was a bunch of factors that contributed to it. I almost
think people are foolishly putting the blame on Metal Gear and it being
“exposed.” Make no mistake; Metal Gear is still a powerhouse franchise
in this contest. I still would not take anything over it outside of the
Big Three, though many would disagree with me on this. In order to
justify the high percentage that I’ll be using in this match, it is
necessary to show why I think Metal Gear did not disappoint, but
instead, it was Fire Emblem showing us its strength. First and foremost, Fire Emblem is likely to have increased its strength significantly since its appearance in the Games Contest. When the match against FFTA took place, it had only been released for four months, which is hardly any time to gather up good strength. Since then, it has released two other games and has increased awareness exponentially. Both of those releases – another Game Boy Advance release and a GameCube release – sold reasonably well. There is even another Fire Emblem game heading to the Wii. Sure, this series is not a powerhouse by any means, but it still would not be bottom of the line fodder like many had suspected. Secondly, the match picture, I believe, played an interesting role in this one. Since it is sprite round, Metal Gear was blessed with the unrecognizable sprites from the Metal Gear games back in the 80s. It is a pretty well known fact that Solid Snake does not perform well when he is given a sprite, so the same should likely hold true for Metal Gear as well. But perhaps the most interesting aspect of this is that the name of the series represented is “Metal Gear,” not “Metal Gear Solid.” Sure, we all realize that Metal Gear Solid is definitely taken into consideration, but in this match picture we saw the old games combined with the “Metal Gear” name that could have led people to believe that this was the original Metal Gear franchise against Fire Emblem. Not the biggest factor, but still worth mentioning. Lastly, Fire Emblem is the up and coming Nintendo RPG series. From what we have seen of this contest, Nintendo related series have performed extremely well. It would be no surprise to see Fire Emblem continue that line of better than expected performances. That leads into the idea of FE possibly receiving some SFF against FFTA back in the Games Contest. Both are in the same genre, both were popular (FFTA far moreso) at the time, and both were on the same system. On top of that, it’s possible that FFTA might have suffered some SFF against Final Fantasy X. So its strength in the Games Contest is underrated on top of the inevitable increase in strength from having more games released since. Overall, all of this adds up to Metal Gear not necessarily being “exposed” or showing weakness, but rather, Fire Emblem showing it is now bottom of the line fodder like many had anticipated. It actually carries plenty of strength here, and it should not be terribly surprising after this match. All that said it still got beat down heavily against Metal Gear, no matter how you slice it. This match is not going to stop Metal Gear from laying a nice beating on Kingdom Hearts, I think. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 9:14:51 PM | message detail | #433 |
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As for Kingdom Hearts, it performed pretty well against Castlevania in the previous round. We got to see that the day vote still
does exist, as it managed to take Castlevania’s built up 1,100 vote
lead and end up winning by over 3,000 itself. It still had a close
encounter with Castlevania, which ruins its shot completely at even
giving Metal Gear a scare here. And, in all likelihood, Kingdom Hearts
loses this match without Kingdom Hearts II, so its effect is definitely
present. The only worrisome thing here is that Kingdom Hearts showed it
does have a solid day vote still, and Metal Gear is notorious for
having a bad day vote. No worry about the lead, but the percentage is
likely to be brought down by quite a bit in the match. Metal Gear has absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to winning this match-up. You have numerous people on the board saying that Kingdom Hearts may have a chance or that they predicted it to beat Metal Gear, but that never made any sense. There is nothing that Kingdom Hearts has in its favor over Metal Gear at all. I mean, if you are on the fence, Snake/Sora should be a clear warning sign that things are likely to be worse than you initially expect due to whatever fanbase overlap there may be. When you compare games, I feel that every single Metal Gear Solid game outranks the original Kingdom Hearts. Metal Gear Solid is obviously underrated due to FFVII SFF, Metal Gear Solid 3 is likely to be stronger than Metal Gear Solid 2, and Kingdom Hearts itself is overrated through StarCraft’s run – the actual cheated votes were never removed. That puts KH/MGS2 essentially at 50/50, and I’ll favor Metal Gear Solid 2 in that match every time (I’ll always go with the Metal Gear related entry whenever it has a realistic shot at winning, and even sometimes unrealistic. Believe – 2007). That means Kingdom Hearts has to rely on a monstrous boost from Kingdom Hearts II, which is incredibly unlikely. I would still take MGS over KH and KHII with ease, and MGS3 is not far off from where KHII might be, if it is even above the original KH. The other potential chance that Kingdom Hearts had at having some advantage was to get a match against Metal Gear in the sprite round, but that has come and gone. It is almost assured that we’re going to see some type of picture from the Metal Gear Solid portion of the series, which means there will be no worry about the picture being bad or any voters being confused on what they are voting for. Heh, the last time these two entries met (Snake/Sora), it had the greatest picture in contest history – and perhaps one of the most biased – so things certainly don’t look in favor of KH there either. So yeah, just about everything imaginable points to Metal Gear winning, and with ease. Even going by this contest, Metal Gear has taken out two respectable franchises without much of a problem. Anyone hoping for Kingdom Hearts to pull this out is a wee bit crazy. The sales, the popularity, the games, the contest experience, previous matches – everything points to Metal Gear winning. No one in the Crew is going to be going with a potential upset, so the difference here will be the confidence in Metal Gear’s ability to win big. Me? I have plenty of confidence in it. To me, this match is all about seeing Metal Gear live up to my statements about never falling under 58% in this division. I have never doubted that Metal Gear would be a real force in this contest – the fourth strongest series no matter what – and this division not having any really strong opponents has never made me think Metal Gear would end up that way just because it is facing what a certain Stats topic poster likes to call “chumps.” If Metal Gear can at least meet the percentage I’m predicting, I’ll be going for the 30%+ prediction in the next round, solidifying that Metal Gear is on a tier of its own in the extrapolated stats. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 9:15:36 PM | message detail | #434 |
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Aitch Emm’s Bracket : Metal Gear. Aitch Emm’s Prediction : Metal Gear – 59% ; Kingdom Hearts – 41% Aitch Emm’s Vote : Metal Gear – Best. Series. Ever. baby! Yoblazer’s Analysis With 25 matches safely in the books, we've finally come to one where I'm split on which entrant to vote for. I love the hell out of both these series and want to see them both do well. Can't have everything you want, I guess. I see Kingdom Hearts as the "reliable middleman" of the contest. It hasn't overpowered anything, it hasn't really impressed anyone, but it has done its job by making it this far. One lower-end blowout of Harvest Moon and a close match with Castlevania later, it's going up against Metal Gear in the divisional finals. The top-seeded Metal Gear, which had a poor showing against Fire Emblem (MG always performs poorly in the sprite round, so it's no big deal), will be looking to rebound here, and it should be able to do so. Of course, none of this really matters, because if Kingdom Hearts can't score 52% on Konami's #2, I see no reason to believe that it could beat Konami's #1. That's all there is to it. Consolation prize: I'll probably end up giving it my vote due to Hot Mermaid Factor. Metal Gear + Three very popular games in the last eight years + Tons of credibility and some old school influence + Spans a surprising amount of consoles and eras - That prissy little Elf boy is up next, Snake. Can't take him, can ya? Kingdom Hearts + Two very strong games + Most popular new release on the site + The most popular non-video game character in Ariel - Only three games (only two of which have actual strength) - It's a rookie - Hasn't really impressed yet My prediction: Metal Gear def. Kingdom Hearts (58-42) Mnm’s Analysis Battle Music: Forze del Male (Kingdom Hearts) This match is looking to be interesting even though I don't think who will win should be debated at all. As I've said before, Kingdom Hearts is a much newer series than Metal Gear, and among fans of both it would be quite hard to displace Metal Gear, which is already a huge favorite of many gamers. This will probably be Metal Gear's last chance to impress as the Big Three have decimated all in their path. Metal Gear may have shown a bit of weakness against Fire Emblem, but given its Nintendo pedigree, it was hardly surprising. Kingdom Hearts doesn't have the full support of the Nintendo fanbase, so this matchup will probably be a free for all among those voters. Kingdom Hearts has already proven its strength by knocking out Castlevania, which handled Halo pretty easily. That pretty much puts all the debates away about Kingdom Hearts being weaker than Halo and Halo 2 supposedly doing more for its series than Kingdom Hearts 2 has done for KH. As I've said before, Kingdom Hearts has come a long way since being the button masher with Disney and FF characters in it. It's placed its own stamp as a game, with memorable villains and moments comparable to the best of RPGs. Granted it still might not be Metal Gear strong, but it has made its mark. It won't quite roll over against Metal Gear. After seeing Fire Emblem avoid the doubling, I wouldn't expect Metal Gear to beat Castlevania more than 60-40. Since Kingdom Hearts is stronger than Castlevania, I say it breaks 40%, SFF be damned! Bracket: Metal Gear Vote: Kingdom Hearts Prediction: Metal Gear with 57.35% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 9:16:15 PM | message detail | #435 |
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HaRRich’s Analysis Predicted winner: Metal Gear Earlier this contest: ---MG - 69.89% against Soul Calibur, 65.23% on Fire Emblem ---KH - 73.12% on Harvest Moon, 51.33% on Castlevania Top 100 List comparison: ---MGS - #8, MGS3 - #21, MGS2 - #41 ---KH - #16 Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---MGS2 - 32.52%, MGS - 28.7% (may have been SFF'd by FF7), MG - 14.13% ---KH - 34.7% (was behind Starcraft) I'll keep it fairly short, but, essentially, MG wins. We've seen Solid over-perform big against Sora, we've seen two Konami-favorite polls where MG outdoes CV comfortably and KH barely beat CV this contest (nor did Sora impress that much against Alucard last year), MG has several more games, MG has been around MUCH longer (what is it, a 15-year gap between MG and KH?) and has spanned several systems, MG's biggest game is bigger than any KH game -- hell, with MGS3:S out now, it's possible MGS3 is bigger than any KH game, MG obliterated Soul Calibur and KH barely beat SC in the Game Contest, both Revolver and an SFF'd Liquid outdid Ansem in the Villain Contest stats...did I cover all the bases? Oh yeah, and MG rules. If it wasn't for FE gettin' about 35% on MG, that would be what I'd predict for KH...but since I'm nice and will assume MG/KH won't have an over-performance like Solid/Sora, I'll bump it up a lil'. Metal Gear wins with 61.12% Lopen’s Analysis First, I thought Halo would be here. Then, I thought Castlevania would be here. Now, we're left with KINGDOM HEEAAARRRTTSSS!!! Sorry. Well, I didn't think Metal Gear was going to be some sort of unstoppable beast when this contest started. I figured it'd win the division, but not by some sort of landslide. I was thinking Halo or Castlevania might have an outside chance of beating it. And the contest itself has me doubting it even more. Round 1 it came in looking good enough… but in round 2, round 2 was inexcusable. It couldn't even double Fodder Emblem! Pathetic! Had Castlevania handled KH (by handled, I mean a big win) like I thought it would, I'd have had CV taking this… I tried to start a bandwagon, you know! But alas, it didn't. KH squeaked by. So… how much more popular is Metal Gear than Castlevania? Probably not that much, really. That old "best Konami series" poll has Metal Gear with the advantage, but Castlevania has some advantages that Metal Gear doesn't. More games, a much better system spread. Symphony of the Night isn't much less popular here than MGS, arguably Metal Gear's most popular game. Heck, part of me wants to take Kingdom Hearts here, just so we can't get made absolute fools of again… But, that would be "playing the Price is Right games", and no one wants to see that, right? I don't honestly think KH will win this. A chance? Yeah. A chance, but not one I'll take. And there's always the chance that Metal Gear will beat it into the dirt hard like Snake/Sora's match of last year implies will happen. But I think KH will hold up better than that. Much better. Lopen's Prediction: Metal Gear with 52.50%. Comments: Nothing to see here other than HM fanboyism and a Metal Gear win. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/26/2006 9:16:36 PM | message detail | #436 |
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Writing a book there, HM? --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 9:17:41 PM | message detail | #437 |
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Yeah. It's called "Metal Gear Owns You(r) Soul." --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 9:18:22 PM | message detail | #438 |
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Man, and I thought my write-up was long. --- The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/26/2006 9:18:28 PM | message detail | #439 |
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And right when I thought I had the highest pick locked up, I noticed I missed someone. Damn you Harrich! --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 7/26/2006 10:14:20 PM | message detail | #440 |
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The Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid +9 Leon +8 HM +7 Soul +6 yo +5 Ulti +4 mnm +3 Lopen +2 Moltar +1 HaRRicH The Rankings (Through The Legend of Zelda/Metroid) 1. Master Moltar (111) 2. yoblazer33 (103) 3. XxSoulxX (99) 4. UltimaterializerX (88) 5. Leonhart (87) 6. therealmnm (85) 7. Heroic Mario (74) 8. HaRRicH (72) 9. Lopen (68) --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 10:15:28 PM | message detail | #441 |
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I'll pass up Ulti with my MG/KH pick. Bank on it! --- The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 7/26/2006 10:54:36 PM | message detail | #442 |
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HaRR - 61.12 Soul - 60.01 HM - 59.00 yo - 58.00 Ulti - 57.89 mnm - 57.35 Moltar - 57.00 Leon - 55.44 Lopen - 52.50 All for Metal Gear. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/27/2006 12:37:01 AM | message detail | #443 |
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The day vote shift will be interesting to see. --- The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose |
| Lopen | Posted 7/27/2006 2:01:45 AM | message detail | #444 |
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Man... I'm making horrible predictions lately. Good thing the scoring system is unofficial and doesn't count! >_> --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/27/2006 11:45:07 AM | message detail | #445 |
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Looks like this match will probably end up in the 58.5-59% range TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/27/2006 2:56:25 PM | message detail | #446 |
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At this point, unless Metal Gear really bombs in percentage, this looks like either HM's or yo's point. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/27/2006 5:25:24 PM | message detail | #447 |
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The Legend of Zelda.....84.7% 114009 Metroid..............................15.3% 20595 TOTAL VOTES..........................134604 89.78% of the brackets predicted this match correctly. LoZ received over 114K vote against Metroid? Ouch, that's some bad SFF combined with the Metroid series just overall not being all that strong. Samus is leagues ahead of it. Today, Metal Gear is having an easy time against Kingdom Hearts. Soul - 5 Lopen - 3 HaRRich - 3 Moltar - 3 Leon - 2 Mnm - 2 Yoblazer - 2 Ulti - 2 HM - 2 Leon had the highest pick, so he gets the point. --- Moltar Status: Wanting you to Nominate Shadow the Hedgehog! Metal Gear vs. Kingdom Hearts - Bracket: MG - Vote: MG (34/36) |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:17:01 PM | message detail | #448 |
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This one is basically yo's. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/27/2006 9:25:46 PM | message detail | #449 |
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Mushroom Division: Round 3 - Match 27 – (1)Super Mario Bros. vs. (2)Super Smash Bros. Moltar’s Analysis Super Mario Bros. - Featuring Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi and Bowser! Round 1 – 92.21% vs. Madden NFL (7.79%) Round 2 – 81.13% vs. Warcraft (18.87%) SMB destroys Warcraft in Round 2 with over 80% of the vote. Super Smash Bros. - Featuring Mario, Luigi, Toad…Peach…….Yoshi…..and….Bowser?! Round 1 – 76.37% vs. Dragon Quest (23.63%) Round 2 – 57.66% vs. Sonic (42.34%) SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic. The Road to an all 1 seed Final Four grows closer as Super Mario Bros. goes up against Super Smash Bros. If this match doesn’t just scream SFF, I don’t know what does. Hell, both series have Super and Bros. in the titles! Anyway, Super Mario Bros. strongest game, SMB3, is stronger than SSB:M. SMB is also a much larger series, and while that didn’t help Sonic, SMB has plenty of strong games to pull from. Add on to the fact that SMB is already looking to SFF SSB and you have got yourselves a blowout. Shame too, because SSB could potentially be the 4th strongest series in the Contest. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Super Mario Bros. will win. Moltar’s Prediction is: SMB: 76% - SSB: 24% Ulti’s Analysis Most boring late-round contest match in a LONG ****ing time, though I'd love to know what warped logic people have for thinking SSB will win. This has SFF written all over it, though SSB's insane fanbase might keep it over 30%. Or not. Prediction: Mario with 79.99% Soul’s Analysis SMB defeated Warcraft with 81.13% SSB defeated Sonic with 57.66% Same Fanbase Factor. The killer of many potential interesting matches. The killer of stats. It's not a pretty sight to see. And look what we have here? Mario Vs. a Mario spinoff. This match was hyped to go either way, but really, think about this. It's Mario Vs. Mario spinoff. Mario will come out on top, and with the added SFF, will look stronger then the series actually is. The question on a lot of people's mind is what will be the fourth strongest series in this contest? FF, LoZ and SMB have all cemented themselves as the best of the best, but which series would follow them? As of right now, SSB and Metal Gear are the favorites for that elusive fourth spot. Sadly, SSB has to deal with SFF in this round, so Metal Gear will look like the clear winner after all is said and done. Does that mean MG could beat SSB? Sadly, we might never know... My prediction: Super Mario Bros. wins with 75.01% of the vote Lopen’s Analysis Some people thought SSB would be taking this. Well, I'm here to tell you that's just foolishness. SSBM is popular here, but you know what? Signs point to Super Mario Brothers 3 being more popular here. And you know what? I don't think the N64 game adds enough to even offset that. You put Super Mario Brothers 3 vs. Super Smash Brothers (the whole series) here, and I'm taking Super Mario Brothers 3. Kinda sad if that's true, because that means one Mario game beats every Sonic game 57-43%+. Some rivalry, huh? Come on… you like tangents. And now, here comes another match where the almighty Mario shows his power by SFFing anything. He hardly even has to stretch here, though. He can see SSB's Nintendo shaped cardboard box parked on his freshly cut grass. Needless to say, he's not pleased. Is Final Fantasy so screwed here? Lopen's Prediction: Super Mario Brothers with 77.77% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/27/2006 9:26:29 PM | message detail | #450 |
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Leon’s Analysis First of all, well done, Super Smash Brothers. Well done. The match against Sonic was very impressive, I must say. However, your road ends here. That much is obvious. After all, Super Mario Brothers scored over 81% on Warcraft, a series that would destroy Dragon Quest head-to-head, which Super Smash Brothers beat by less. With that said, I don’t think Super Mario Brothers will get the massive SFF that some people are predicting. I think SSBM could hold its own against Mario 3 and perhaps beat the rest of the series. But really, this is a boring match to analyze seriously. With that said: J.R.: MARIO PINS SONIC CLEANLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING TO CAP OFF A DOMINANT PERFORMANCE BY SUPER SMASH BROTHERS IN THIS MATCH! *As Mario celebrates with Link and Samus, the name “Super Smash Brothers” appears on the Jumbotron screen declaring the winner. However, as they celebrate, a familiar-looking Koopa peaks out from under the ring* WAIT, BOWSER IS CRAWLING OUT FROM UNDER THE RING! WHAT IS HE DOING?! OH MY! HE JUST ATTACKED SAMUS FROM BEHIND! WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE?! IS HE BETRAYING THE SMASH BROTHERS?! *Link scurries out of the ring and grabs a steel chair. He slides back into the ring, looking to take on Bowser* HANG ON, LINK HAS GRABBED A STEEL CHAIR AND HE’S COMING BACK TO THE RING! MARIO IS ASKING FOR THE CHAIR! LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO SETTLE THIS HIMSELF! *Mario takes the steel chair from Link and stares down Bowser menacingly. Then suddenly, Mario turns around and slams Link over the head with the chair* NO! THIS CAN’T BE HAPPENING! MARIO JUST KNOCKED OUT LINK WITH THE STEEL CHAIR! THE CARNAGE! THE MAYHEM! JUST WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?! WHY WOULD MARIO TURN HEEL AND JOIN BOWSER?! WHY MARIO WHY?! *Mario grabs the microphone* Mario: I’ve-a been a-carrying Super Smash Brothers on my back for too long! Mama mia! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND IT’S-A TIME FOR A CHANGE! Hit it! *The word “Smash” is erased from the Jumbotron screen and is replaced with the word “Mario”* Mario: Super Mario Brothers with 74.26% says I just whipped… Yeah, you know the rest. Yoblazer’s Analysis Like Zelda vs. Metroid, this is a same-company match with an obvious result; the trick is trying to determine just how bad the beatdown will be. When it comes to Nintendo's series, this contest has taught me one central lesson: Super Smash Bros. is, unquestionably, the third strongest, ranking ahead of Metroid, Mario Kart, Pokemon, Kirby, and all the other runts. Now, we all know Zelda is stronger than Mario, and I predicted about 80/20 for Zelda/Metroid, so I think this one will be closer right off the bat. Also, unlike any game in the Metroid arsenal, I think Super Smash Bros.' popularity and console carrying ability over the past five years makes it very SFF-resistant. Will it still get SFF'D by something as beastly as Super Mario Bros.? Sure. Will it be as bad as Metroid? No way. Super Mario Bros. + Several games from which to draw popularity + Most of those games are pretty damn strong in their own right + Most recognized series in gaming history + Broke Warcraft over its knee - Nothing Super Smash Bros. + A beast of a title in SSBM + SSB, while somewhat forgotten, also has a large fanbase and fantastic sales + Great performance against Sonic - Only two games - The Nintendo fanbase won't side with it here My prediction: Super Mario Bros. def. Super Smash Bros. (75-25) |
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