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Spring 2006 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/23/2006 5:58:22 PM | message detail | #351 |
Leon’s Analysis Welcome to Round 4 of the “Now top THAT!” battle between the Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy. The Legend of Zelda gets nearly 90% on Civilization and becomes the first to break 100,000 individual votes? Hah, that’s nothing for Final Fantasy! Try 107,000 individual votes against Diablo despite doing exactly 4% worse, raking in 14,000 more total votes! Naturally, the Legend of Zelda is responding in kind. As I’m writing this, the Legend of Zelda is pushing nearly 81% against Mega Man X, still looking to break 100,000 individual votes again, and is currently on pace to hit the highest vote total of the contest so far. So what now, Final Fantasy? On the surface, it looks like Final Fantasy has the perfect opponent to gauge how it stands in respect to the Legend of Zelda. It’s Mega Man without the X! However, if it does a little worse in this match, don’t lose heart. There are a couple of reasons why this could happen. First of all, there is a chance that Zelda got some measure of SFF against Mega Man X due to both spending a good bit of time on the SNES. Secondly, it’s important to take into consideration that there will likely be a fair portion of voters who will not be voting for Mega Man solely for the Classic series. I don’t know exactly how much of an effect either one has, but they are certainly possible factors. Of course, if Final Fantasy does worse against Mega Man, Board 8 will automatically make the Legend of Zelda the favorite to win the contest. If Final Fantasy somehow does better, Board 8 will refer back to the Favorite Mega Man Series poll and STILL say the Legend of Zelda is the favorite to win the contest. For some reason, the board is insistent on doing whatever it takes to make it look like Final Fantasy isn’t the hands-down favorite to win this contest. Nearly 86% on Diablo? Oh, Diablo must be bad fodder, even though there isn’t really anything in any contest pointing to that! NintendoFAQs? More like Board NintendEIGHT, am I right? Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy with 78.44% HM’s Analysis Final Fantasy Previous Matches : Final Fantasy – 85.98% -- 107,648 Diablo – 17,560 Mega Man Previous Matches : Mega Man – 58.12% – 62,075 Mario Kart – 41.88% – 44,727 … “Holy crap.” That about sums up my feelings on both FF/Diablo and MM/MK. I never suspected that either of them would get such a high percentage, especially Final Fantasy. Mega Man managed to continue the line of the older series with a large number of games beating the more new series with a smaller amount of games. It is unfortunate, however, that Mega Man has to face Final Fantasy so soon. If Final Fantasy’s performance is any indication, this match is going to ugly. In the last round, Final Fantasy completely turned heads when it absolutely demolished Diablo; it turned what would otherwise be a pretty strong series into looking like pure fodder. You really cannot mess with someone who has power like that. Final Fantasy’s performance sent a clear message of destruction to The Legend of Zelda. The fact that it can turn even a semi-powerful series into looking like fodder should give one an idea of how bad this match is going to end up being. |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/23/2006 5:58:59 PM | message detail | #352 |
Mega Man on the other hand did really well against Mario Kart by nearly
snatching up 60%. It seems like most hotly debated matches really
aren’t turning out to be even semi-close these days. There was a pretty
big split on who thought Mario Kart would win and who thought Mega Man
would win – it was 5 – 4 Mario Kart for the Crew – and it was really
surprising to see the match not even start off close. Even with the
impressive performance under its belt, it is up against an absolute
monster. It stands no chance of doing anything except maybe breaking
20%. Yeah. This match would get more analysis, but it is really quite unnecessary. The most interesting thing about this match is going to be how it compares to LoZ/MMX. Let it be known, if Final Fantasy puts up a better performance against Mega Man than Zelda does against MMX, we’re not going to see anything even give Final Fantasy a sweat. The strongest entity we’ll ever see in a contest? Yeah – Final Fantasy. Aitch Emm’s Bracket : Final Fantasy Aitch Emm’s Prediction : Final Fantasy – 79% ; Mega Man – 21% Aitch Emm’s Vote : Final Fantasy HaRRich’s Analysis Predicted winner: Final Fantasy Earlier this contest: ---FF - 85.98% on Diablo ---MM - 58.12% on Mario Kart Top 100 List comparison: ---FF7 - #1, FF3/6 - #10, FFX - #12, FF8 - #17, FFT - #19, FF9 - #42, FF2/4 - #50, FF - #76, FFTA - #89 ---MM - N/A (had no games on the drop-down list) Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---FF7 - 50% (Best. Game. Ever. champion), FF3/6 - 39.4%, FFX - 36.86%, FF - 32.24%, FFT - 28.69% (was behind FF7/MGS), FFTA - 24.27% (SFF'd by FFX) ---MM - N/A (no rep) Congrats Mega Man -- MM/MK was the first time I was ever cost a point by not picking you (though Zero has before...damn you, Scorpion). Now, you will be punished with a harsh vengeance that not even I can control. Thank CJayC later. Final Fantasy was simply generous by being in the bottom of the bracket, so the rest of the series could look good before it showed off. Before we ever saw FF in action, we saw LoZ damn-near get 90% against Civilization, Mario break 92% against Madden, MG embarrass SC and anybody who made that upset pick, and Metroid go past 70% on Kirby...then we saw the first update in FF/Diablo. Mega Man, despite comfortably beating Mario Kart, could never match any one update FF had against Diablo -- sad as it may be -- and I wouldn't expect MM to take the board vote either from FF. Heck, FF very well may even have the power to get on MM what LoZ got on MMX (which would be amazing considering LoZ likely SFF'd MMX, and especially amazing if most voters consider MM to be all of the Mega Man games). The people who said Diablo's just a weakling and LoZ > FF based off of the first round are going to be rudely awakened this time. Final Fantasy wins with 79.12% |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/23/2006 5:59:35 PM | message detail | #353 |
Lopen’s Analysis You know what I said a few days ago about the really big beasts FF, Mario, and LoZ winning with more % than you'd expect against lesser series? In effect, "SFFing" them? Well, I think Mega Man is a big enough dude to at least try and stop the pain against this juggernaut. He's got a massively large fanbase out there, too, and his popularity age is older than Final Fantasy's, the Mega Man NES games were way bigger than the NES Final Fantasy game (games for you Japanese voters!). Oh, yeah, he's surely at a disadvantage in the SNES eras and above, but he's undoubtedly got the NES vote! He might even have a bit of a tussle for the SNES vote! MMX1-3 and MM7 were fairly popular at least. (yeah I'm still including the X series when I'm thinking Mega Man, I'll be sure to blame undershooting the % on this too, should it happen) Now, don't get me wrong, were this Mario, or Zelda, I'd have them beating poor ol' Mega Man into the dirt a bit harder… but I think Mega Man's got enough of his own turf to work with that FF doesn't have. And I think he's one of the more popular series here, so even in the case of overlap he won't be annihilated. Think of it like one of those signs at the amusement parks. "You must be this tall not to be totally destroyed". Okay, so they didn't say "totally destroyed"… and in this case we're talking popularity instead of height… but you get it, right? Mega Man is tall enough to ride, and will at least try to hold his own. (won't it be sad if I'm the highest one here, though? Yeah, right...) Lopen's Prediction: Final Fantasy with 66.50% Comments: FF gon' win, and of course Lopen has to go against the consensus. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/23/2006 6:58:45 PM | message detail | #354 |
I think Lopen actually has an alright shot of being right on this one.
Mega Man isn't *that* weak, although I think FF will have to
underperform big time to get 66.5%. I'm liking Ulti's pick and my
personal prediction would be 71%. --- Sp2k6: 24/26 Rank: Tied for 752nd Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: Mario Today: SSB Tomorrow: FF - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 7:05:49 PM | message detail | #355 |
Not much breathing room for a lot of people here. There are about 4 or 5 people within 2% of each other. And hit-or-miss Lopen lives on! He's either gonna get this one right or end up being dead last again. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
DoABarrelSoul | Posted 7/23/2006 7:15:17 PM | message detail | #356 |
You know, it's sad that the first thing I do on an update is look at Leon's prediction. Every single time. --- The official "Nominate Fox McCloud for SC2K6" alt. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 7:17:10 PM | message detail | #357 |
Heh, this is four straight matches where Soul and I have been within one percent of each other on our predictions. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Big Bob | Posted 7/23/2006 7:21:13 PM | message detail | #358 |
*sigh* I knew SSB would win handily, and once again I am saddened that Sonic couldn't pull an upset. Very happy to hear Kingdom Hearts owned the Analysis Crew, though. And O_O at Super Mario Bros. getting 80%.. --- This space reserved for a new sig. |
Lopen | Posted 7/23/2006 7:34:01 PM | message detail | #359 |
Truth be told, after Castlevania and Sonic didn't do as well as I'd
thought, I was gonna bring Mega Man's % down a bit, but eh... I was
screwed last round for changing %s, I'll just let it roll. I'm a bit surprised that anyone even went as low as Ulti, though. I too, am liking Ulti's pick, here. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 7:35:16 PM | message detail | #360 |
So someone else concurs that Ulti has good positioning. We remember what happened the last time that happened! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Lopen | Posted 7/23/2006 7:48:41 PM | message detail | #361 |
Actually, I don't. I'm going to assume you earned a point, as you remember it so clearly!! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
SquallidSnake | Posted 7/23/2006 7:50:08 PM | message detail | #362 |
Darunia has already said he likes Ulti's positioning, so the fate has been decided. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/23/2006 8:02:54 PM | message detail | #363 |
From: SquallidSnake Darunia has already said he likes Ulti's positioning, so the fate has been decided. o_O ... k? --- Sp2k6: 24/26 Rank: Tied for 752nd Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: Mario Today: SSB Tomorrow: FF - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
SquallidSnake | Posted 7/23/2006 8:03:47 PM | message detail | #364 |
I'm referring to HaRRicH a couple of days ago saying he liked Ulti's
positioning for Mario/Warcraft, and then Ulti ended up being off by 20%. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
Lugia2 | Posted 7/23/2006 11:23:48 PM | message detail | #365 |
It's pretty early in the match, but given that FF lost some percentage
(I know: %age doesn't = votes, but that doesn't matter here), it should
stabilize soon. Looks like it's going to be Ulti's point... --- VIVA LA REVOLU-er, Wii!! Thank you Nintendo, thank you very much. |
gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/23/2006 11:42:13 PM | message detail | #366 |
+9 mnm (tie) +9 yo (tie) +7 HaRRicH +6 Moltar -1 Leon -2 Soul -3 HM -4 Ulti -5 Lopen The Rankings (Through Sonic the Hedgehog/Super Smash Bros.) 1. Master Moltar (101) 2. yoblazer33 (84) 3. XxSoulxX (78) 4. Leonhart (73) 4. UltimaterializerX (73) 6. Lopen (66) 7. therealmnm (65) 8. HaRRicH (64) 9. Heroic Mario (54) Moltar is practically guaranteed first place, but the race for second is still wide open. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 12:46:29 AM | message detail | #367 |
Well for one I never said I liked his POSITIONING, just his pickof
70.96 or whatever. And if the %age goes down to 72 or lower (which I
think it will), he'll get the point, so maybe I'm not a curse :) --- Sp2k6: 26/28 Rank: Tied for 367th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: SSB Today: FF Tomorrow: SF - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 12:50:42 AM | message detail | #368 |
At this point, I like mnm's chances at the point. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Lopen | Posted 7/24/2006 12:54:01 AM | message detail | #369 |
This sucks... I was going to raise my prediction 5%. I hate you, Mega
Man! Why do you keep swerving me like this? Change or don't change it, what do you want? Actually, I don't hate you, I love you and want you to fight for an extra 5% over the day!! Or maybe 50%. If you want to set your sights high. You know, just a suggestion. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/24/2006 3:26:12 PM | message detail | #370 |
Final Fantasy is so screwed. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), WC3: Frozen Throne |
SquallidSnake | Posted 7/24/2006 3:48:19 PM | message detail | #371 |
Yep, this is definitely mnm's point. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 5:44:13 PM | message detail | #372 |
Curious to see how far-ranging the RE predictions go. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
XxSoulxX | Posted 7/24/2006 5:56:37 PM | message detail | #373 |
>_> Sent. --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:40:10 PM | message detail | #374 |
Sonic the Hedgehog.....42.34% 53423 Super Smash Bros........57.66% 72755 TOTAL VOTES...........................126178 46.03% of the brackets predicted this match correctly. Another hotly debated match turns out to be nothing more than an easy victory. In this case, it was SSB that prevailed over Sonic, proving once again that a small number of strong games > a large number of weaker games. Today, Final Fantasy is almost tripling Mega Man. Can we just give it the Contest already? Soul - 4 Lopen - 3 HaRRich - 3 Moltar - 3 Yoblazer - 2 Ulti - 2 HM - 2 Mnm - 1 Leon - 1 Mnm gets his first point finally! To steal some of the glory though, Yoblazer also gets a point. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Final Fantasy vs. Mega Man - Bracket: FF - Vote: MM (26/28) |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 7:41:19 PM | message detail | #375 |
And based on today, I'm going to be in the basement after this match. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:47:24 PM | message detail | #376 |
Ultima Division: Round 2 - Match 24 – (6)Street Fighter vs. (2)Resident Evil Moltar’s Analysis Street Fighter Round 1 – 64.77% vs. The Elder Scrolls (35.23%) The Elder Scrolls was untested, but it didn’t have the strength to take down Street Fighter. Resident Evil Round 1 – 87.76% vs. Shadow Hearts (12.24%) Wow, Shadow Hearts will be nothing more than fodder. The final match of Round 2, and it’s not a bad one either. This one has gotten some talk lately, but not as much as the other hotly debated matches. In fact, most of talk for this match was during the bracket-making period. Most people decided that Resident Evil would win this with ease, but the Street Fighter supporters are speaking out. Alright, we really can’t tell much about this match from Round 1, with TES being untested and SH being too fodder-ific. Still, if we were to judge on R1 performances alone, RE would win there. So I’ll take a different approach on this match. Overall, Resident Evil is the stronger Capcom franchise by a bit. Also, the RE series has one thing that SF doesn’t have. A big recent release, and the name of the game is RE4. Pre-RE4, I might have given SF the edge here, but with RE4 in RE’s corner, this match is all but over. Street Fighter 2, SF’s biggest game, isn’t all THAT strong. I mean, it did lose to SMRPG (omg SF2 lost?!?!), and while RE didn’t fare too well against MGS, I’d argue RE2 and most definitely RE4 are stronger than it. The only thing SF has going for it now is the nostalgia factor, and I doubt that’s going to be enough. RE wins quite easily. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Resident Evil will win. Moltar’s Prediction is: Street Fighter: 42% - Resident Evil: 58% Ulti’s Analysis Here we have two Capcom series. One features Resident Evil 4 and has a strong stake in every gaming generation since the PSX days. The other is a series that no one other than the most hardcore of fighting game fans (which are easily some of the most annoying in gaming; idiot SSBM fans only brought an existing mentality into a mainstream audience, rather than creating it outright) has cared about since the early 90s. What more can possibly be said? Prediction: Resident Evil with 66.65% Soul’s Analysis SF defeated Elder Scrolls with 64.77% RE defeated Shadow Hearts with 87.76% Here is the last contested match for a long while, and sadly it's an easy choice. Street Fighter defeated Elder Scrolls easily last round, but it was nothing compared to the blowout that RE gave to Shadow Hearts. Both looked very impressive last round. This round is a lot different though. Resident Evil is the clear favorite, for a few reasons. I could get into them all, but it's really obvious that the biggest reason is because of Resident Evil 4. RE4 is pretty popular on this site, but would that popularity equal contest strength? I hope so. I'm predicting Street Fighter will get closer then what a lot of people are thinking though. It's a pretty strong series on this site, but I doubt it will be stronger then Resident Evil. Although, Knuckles did beat Magus... My prediction: Resident Evil wins with 51.50% of the vote. |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:47:58 PM | message detail | #377 |
Leon’s Analysis After their first round matches, I was hoping I’d feel a bit more confident one way or the other on this one. I’ve had Street Fighter beating Resident Evil in my bracket from the very beginning, but it’s never something I’ve had a great deal of confidence about. It seems that nearly all of the intangibles are in Resident Evil’s favor. There’s the Favorite Capcom Series poll that favors Resident Evil even before RE4 came out, and there’s the fact that RE4 was the overwhelming Game of the Year. Really, I want to take Street Fighter as an upset pick in the off chance that it happens since I’ll likely be the only one on the Crew to take it. But then again, I don’t want to take an upset just for the sake of having an upset, and I’m not feeling good about it at this point. Street Fighter did score 65% on the Elder Scrolls, but we don’t know what that’s worth. Sure, Oblivion is a potential Game of the Year threat, but as we’ve seen repeatedly, just one game isn’t enough to put a series over the top. And I suppose it’s possible just having the title “Elder Scrolls” could have worked against it, too. For some reason, people were surprised when Resident Evil scored 85% against Shadow Hearts, but that was basically what I expected. Quite a few series in this contest could push 85% on it, though nearly 88% is impressive nonetheless. Maybe I’m the only one who’s getting concerned by this, but Fire Emblem did noticeably better against Metal Gear than Soul Calibur did, putting the fighting series on almost equal ground with Silent Hill. It’s hard to tell if it was the horrible Metal Gear picture or what, but seeing one survival horror series being equal to a fighting series has me concerned. After all, I wasn’t expecting anything at all from Silent Hill. I figured Soul Calibur would be far ahead of it. Fighting games generally aren’t held in high regard on this site, and this seems to drive that point in further. However, Street Fighter is probably the one exception to this rule, as it is widely respected by most gamers for its impact on the industry. Yet respect isn’t tantamount to popularity, so I don’t know if that’s worth very much. And while Resident Evil 4 is the reigning Game of the Year, bear in mind that Grand Theft Auto is a master at performing well in those polls (while Warcraft has sucked whenever it’s been involved in one), and it certainly didn’t look like a monster in this contest. We’ve also seen examples in favorites polls where the “favored” one doesn’t win (Bowser > Yoshi being the main example we have of this, though for some reason, Yoshi still beat Luigi, who actually did better than Bowser in that poll). In other words, who knows exactly which way it’s going to lean? Resident Evil is the favorite in this match, and probably rightfully so. Resident Evil 4 was huge and rejuvenated the series, while it’s been a long time since Street Fighter had a noteworthy release (Street Fighter Alpha 3 in 1998, and I didn’t even realize it had been THAT long until I looked it up). While both are Capcom, don’t expect any SFF or something like that. Two radically different genres here. I suppose if Street Fighter has an advantage, it’s the play rate. Nearly everyone has played one game at one point in their life, and in the “Favorite Survival Horror Series” poll, “I don’t play those kind of games” came in second with 18.77% of the vote, though Resident Evil got over 45% there as well. It’s easily the tops in its genre, though I’d wager Street Fighter is the tops in its genre, too. Unlike a lot of people around here, I believe Street Fighter actually has a good chance to win, but the odds are not in its favor. Yet it might be my love for Street Fighter (and my indifference toward Resident Evil) that’s giving me that impression, but…I’ve decided to take my chances on the upset here. Leonhart’s Prediction: Street Fighter with 51.99% |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:48:25 PM | message detail | #378 |
HM’s Analysis Street Fighter Previous Matches : Street Fighter – 64.77% -- 71,526 The Elder Scrolls – 35.23% -- 38,904 Resident Evil Previous Matches : Resident Evil – 87.76% -- 97,696 Shadow Hearts – 12.24% -- 13,627 And we finally arrive at one of the last heavily debated matches of the contest with Street Fighter and Resident Evil. Their performances in the previous round did not really spread any new light on this match, but a lot of people were shocked to see Resident Evil put up such big numbers on Shadow Hearts, even if it was absolute fodder. Street Fighter did not put up a performance that was impressive or disappointing, though some felt it was the end of the line when it met Resident Evil. This has always been one of the most heavily debated matches in the entire contest, and I know it was the only match I actually went back in my bracket and changed my winner. Initially, I figured I would go ahead and choose Street Fighter to pull out the win, but I never really had any solid reasoning behind that choice – it just felt right. Once you start looking at all the advantages that Resident Evil has in its favor, though, you begin to realize that this match probably will not all that hard. As far as contest history goes, we have seen performances from both Street Fighter and Resident Evil numerous times. In the character battle, Ryu has always been one of the strongest entries whereas Resident Evil has never really produced a notable one. Jill started out good but eventually met a hard decline in more recent years. There were some other Resident Evil entries in 2002, but they’d likely be around the fodder area now. However, with the release of Resident Evil 4, we saw Leon Kennedy bust into the character contest and prove to be one of the best newcomers in the bracket, second to only Tifa and Vincent, I believe. He’s very close to Ryu, who is still a strong entry himself. In the games contest, both series were represented with Resident Evil and Street Fighter II. Once again, both of them ended up rather close in the stats, but favoring Street Fighter. However, we saw what was likely Street Fighter’s strongest singular game and only not Resident Evil’s. In all likelihood, it has two stronger games – Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 4 – and that does not even mention being underrated through SFF. Most of the signs are here, at least, to point to Resident Evil having stronger games, and it has the added advantage of being a long running series with tons of games. The real deal breaker here for me, though, was the fact that Resident Evil got one of the biggest games of the generation – Resident Evil 4. It was not just a hyped release, but this was a resurrection of a franchise. It completely reinvented the way Resident Evil is played and the quality of the series shot up as a result. People who didn’t care for Resident Evil prior (Hi!) started anticipating RE5. The game just oozed quality in every way. I think that almost assuredly tips the balance in favor of Resident Evil, especially now that it is on both the PlayStation 2 and GameCube. The two largest console fanbases at GameFAQs have been exposed to the game. Interestingly, no Street Fighter game has come out on the GameCube this generation, for whatever it is worth. If we are to look at sales, Resident Evil is Capcom’s highest selling franchise at 28 million copies sold. Street Fighter and Mega Man are tied at second with 24 million each. The number of games is only about ten or so behind Street Fighter, I believe, which completely removes the idea that Resident Evil does not have enough games to compete. The only other factor is that Street Fighter is much older than Resident Evil, but I sincerely doubt it matters that much. |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:48:59 PM | message detail | #379 |
This match is completely in favor of Resident Evil, I feel. I admit
that without RE4 I would be debating this match much more, but as it
stands, I cannot see Street Fighter even thinking about winning this
one. I’m not sure how the rest of the Crew is going to pick, but I have
a feeling they’ll be siding with Resident Evil, too. There is just too
much in RE’s favor. Aitch Emm’s Bracket : Resident Evil Aitch Emm’s Prediction : Resident Evil – 54% ; Street Fighter – 46% Aitch Emm’s Vote : Street Fighter Yoblazer’s Analysis Before I begin, a humble word of warning to all RE fans: expect a picture so horrid in its lopsidedness that it rivals the infamous Tidus/Super Smash Tsunami... thing. The Street Fighter sprites are legendary and recognized the world over. I don't know what CJayC is planning to use for Resident Evil, but I can bet it will look terribly out of place and, well, it'll just look like ass. For the few RE supporters who don't yet realize this - you have been forewarned. Now, this match did spark some debate early on, but most of that has been put to rest after the first round. While Street Fighter failed to double The Elder Scrolls, Resident Evil shocked the hell out of everyone by nearly hitting 88% against Shadow Hearts. Granted, its opponent is the weakest series in the bracket, but that does not take away from RE's incredible performance. It didn't just double, triple, or even quadruple Shadow Hearts; it pounded it to a level usually reserved for the contest elites. Make no mistake, to hit the high 80's, you MUST have some legitimate strength, and that's what Resident Evil proved to any and all the doubters. Outside of the contest, it seems to me that all the intangibles are stacked in Resident Evil's favor. The influential survival horror series burst onto the scene in 1996, just as 3D gaming was on a rise and Street Fighter's popularity was beginning to taper. During those few years, it's almost as if there was a shift of power within the Capcom empire. RE took the crown off SF's head and ran with it. It became Capcom's best selling series. It became Capcom's biggest series. While Street Fighter took a back seat to 3D fighters such as Tekken and Soul Calibur, RE was the undisputed king of its genre, and every new release was met with great anticipation and solid sales. Resident Evil had the late 90's, yes, but no one can deny the immense popularity and fan devotion Street Fighter gained during the early 90's. It doesn't matter if GameFAQs is into fighters or not; EVERYONE has played Street Fighter. Tons of people have very powerful emotional attachments to it, and I'd wager that it carries a nostalgia factor eclipsed only by a certain Italian plumber. When you consider that, this match has all the ingredients of a classic. Of course, then Capcom had to go and introduce Resident Evil to the Nintendo audience. Since 2002, Nintendo has thrice tasted what the premier survival horror series has to offer: first with the highly acclaimed REMake, second with the not-so-acclaimed but original and exclusive RE0, and last but certainly not least, with the outstanding RE4, which was overwhelmingly voted as the best and most popular game of all time. Street Fighter may have its age and a fanbase full of fond memories, but Resident Evil 4 gives RE the final push in the right direction. Street Fighter + Great history and credibility + Nostalgia factor rivaled by very few + Whored out like a mother + Established a genre - Ho-hum first round performance - What have you done for me lately? Resident Evil + Incredible first round performance + Good history and credibility + Hugely popular game was released just last year + Whored out like a mother + Established a genre - It's going to get dismantled soon enough My prediction: Resident Evil def. Street Fighter (59-41) |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:49:30 PM | message detail | #380 |
Mnm’s Analysis Battle Music: The Third Malformation of 'G' (RE2) Super busy today, so another super short analysis. A couple of years ago, Resident Evil/Street Fighter would probably have been a toss-up. Street Fighter dominated in the 16-bit era, while Resident Evil was extremely popular during the 32-bit era. Since then, Resident Evil has had RE4, and that alone is the difference. RE definitely will not be blowing out SF though. I put *zero* stock in RE's beating of Shadow Hearts. Nobody cares about Shadow Hearts on this site. Any well known/popular series would have blown it out. Street Fighter probably would have done about as well. Street Fighter itself turned a supposed debated match with The Elder Scrolls into a standard beating. It definitely has some strength. Just not enough to top Resident Evil. RE4 gives Resident Evil a comfortable win. Bracket: Resident Evil Vote: Street Fighter Prediction: Resident Evil with 56.35% HaRRich’s Analysis Predicted winner: Resident Evil Earlier this contest: ---SF - 64.77% on The Elder Scrolls ---RE - 87.76% on Shadow Hearts Top 100 List comparison: ---RE4 - #14, RE - #53 (Fun-fact: RE Code: Veronica was on the drop-down list but didn't finish in the top 100) ---SF2 - #47 Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---RE - 16.86% (was behind FF7/MGS) ---SF2 - 24.08% I'll be brief because I've typed alot lately and I've talked about this match...alot. Don't forget Dilated Chemist, you and I have a sig-bet on this match that lasts the rest of the contest: 1) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=523 2) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1454 3) Both of those polls were before RE4 came out. 4) RE4 > SF2...in fact, RE4 on Gamecube or PS2 alone (your choice) SF2. 5) RE's had more big hits for its series. 6) RE's put out a more recent respected release than SF. 7) RE has sold more than SF. 8) Before the PS2 release, Leon -- solely off of RE2 and RE4 -- could nearly beat Ryu, the icon of SF. Resident Evil wins with 59.12% Lopen’s Analysis Man, I said I wasn't going to reference any polls in my analyses, but for this one, I just have to! It's the warcry of the RE supporter, and I'd hate to leave it behind. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1454 So, you've got that all absorbed? Now the gist of what people seem to be saying is "Street Fighter was beaten by Resident Evil in this poll, and Resident Evil had the big time hit Resident Evil 4 since then so it's a lock!". Okay, but here're the problems, suckas. 1. You don't think the Marvel vs. voters are going to vote for Street Fighter in the event of Street Fighter vs. Resident Evil? I'd say it's all but assured. You add that to Street Fighter, and Street Fighter's winning by about 3%. 2. Mega Man took the majority of the vote. Who do you think a Mega Man voter's more likely to vote for? The fresh new PS series, or the old school Street Fighter? Me, I'm thinking Street Fighter is a lot more likely to take second place with these fellows than RE is. Basically, what I'm saying is… hold this match back when that poll was taken, and RE doesn't win at all! It loses. I'd go as far as to take around a 60-40 in favor of SF, in fact. Now, since then, RE has had RE4, a recent GotY, but man, I can't trust the significance of one release when it comes to a series. Not enough to turn what I think is around a 20% difference. Look at Metroid, look at GTA! They've both been more impressive in recent GotY polls than RE could hope for, and look where it got them! Both series disappointed. There's more to voting than just the strong games. Nostalgia and age shall best you, RE4! |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:50:11 PM | message detail | #381 |
Oh, sure, Resident Evil looked like a house of fiyah last round, but I'm not convinced Street Fighter does any worse. It's just Shadow Hearts, people. No one cares about it, they'd have rather voted for Guilty Gear, remember? Lopen's Prediction: Street Fighter with 54.54% Comments: The majority of the Crew is backing RE, while Leon and Lopen are for SF. Let's see how this goes. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 7:52:39 PM | message detail | #382 |
Good thing I didn't side with Resident Evil. Soul and I would've been within one percent yet again! But bad thing Lopen sided with Street Fighter, too! NOOOOOO! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
XxSoulxX | Posted 7/24/2006 7:54:54 PM | message detail | #383 |
Holy hell. I totally missed that Street Fighter the first time I looked at it. You were one second away from a yelling you would have never forgotten! --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 9:10:06 PM | message detail | #384 |
Looks like yoblazer was right about the picture. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 9:19:20 PM | message detail | #385 |
The Crew is in favour of RE. Hopefully the old trends continue and the crew gets another debated match wrong. --- Sp2k6: 26/28 Rank: Tied for 467th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: SSB Today: FF Tomorrow: SF - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 9:20:49 PM | message detail | #386 |
Oh God yes... I just looked at the picture. Totally in SF's favour. --- Sp2k6: 26/28 Rank: Tied for 467th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: SSB Today: FF Tomorrow: SF - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
Big Bob | Posted 7/24/2006 9:29:57 PM | message detail | #387 |
Meh, Resident Evil still wins handily. Street Fighter winning would be a huge upset to me. Actually, the only thing that's shocked me this entire contest was Castlevania beating the crap out of Halo. And maaaaybe Pokemon's run. --- This space reserved for a new sig. |
champion88 | Posted 7/24/2006 10:06:03 PM | message detail | #388 |
this is an awesome thread |
XxSoulxX | Posted 7/24/2006 11:14:25 PM | message detail | #389 |
Gawd I need this point badly. Slip after slip, can today finally end my streak? The one time Leon does not tail me too. Heh. --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
YoAriel33 | Posted 7/25/2006 1:31:07 AM | message detail | #390 |
Final Fantasy vs. Mega Man +9 mnm +8 yo +7 Ulti +6 Leon +5 Soul +4 HM +3 HaRRicH +2 Moltar +1 Lopen The Rankings (Through Final Fantasy/Mega Man) 1. Master Moltar (103) 2. yoblazer33 (92) 3. XxSoulxX (83) 4. UltimaterializerX (80) 5. Leonhart (79) 6. therealmnm (74) 7. Lopen (67) 7. HaRRicH (67) 9. Heroic Mario (58) --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
LegendarySnake | Posted 7/25/2006 1:45:02 AM | message detail | #391 |
At this point, Soul and HM are the only ones with realistic Resident Evil predictions. --- I am the man who makes the impossible possible. I am the man, the legend: Solid Snake! |
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/25/2006 2:06:45 AM | message detail | #392 |
I sent you the analyses for round 3 with the exception of FF v. RE/SF. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 3:21:40 AM | message detail | #393 |
So Resident Evil's gonna beat Street Fighter easily, eh? "But...but...the picture!" Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say what you want. (Note that I'm writing this at 4:20 A.M. EST, so who knows how close this will actually end up being) --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Lopen | Posted 7/25/2006 3:23:25 AM | message detail | #394 |
Street Fighter will rip RE apart with the day vote. The point is mine! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/25/2006 4:14:59 AM | message detail | #395 |
I hope you're right for once Lopen. --- Sp2k6: 28/30 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses. Yesterday's Pick: FF Today: SF Tomorrow: Zelda - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match |
Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 11:47:00 AM | message detail | #396 |
Final Fantasy..........74.19% 100574 Mega Man.................25.81% 34988 TOTAL VOTES.......................135562 92.62% of the brackets predicted this match correctly. Wow, FF broke 100K votes again without even tripling Mega Man. That's scary. Anyway, FF won that one easy. Today, Street Fighter was looking to make it interesting, and instead is getting buried with the day vote. Soul - 4 Lopen - 3 HaRRich - 3 Moltar - 3 Mnm - 2 Yoblazer - 2 Ulti - 2 HM - 2 Leon - 1 Another point for Mnm! He's moving on up. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Street Fighter vs. Resident Evil - Bracket: RE - Vote: RE (28/30) |
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 12:14:22 PM | message detail | #397 |
"Buried" with the day vote? It's not even a 2000 vote lead. Either way, looks like Soul's point. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Lopen | Posted 7/25/2006 3:50:28 PM | message detail | #398 |
Well, it was a joke... but I take offense at the "for once"! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/25/2006 4:20:45 PM | message detail | #399 |
I should start waiting until match pics are out before writing. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), WC3: Frozen Throne |
THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 4:27:00 PM | message detail | #400 |
Or you should stop blaming match pictures. There was no way your
prediction was going to be anywhere close to correct for this match
anyway. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
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