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Spring 2006 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2

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HaRRicH | Posted 7/22/2006 10:20:24 PM | message detail | #301
It HAS sold more than KH2 though, I believe, plenty more...not to mention it was shipped with the system for awhile (is it still, or has that changed?).
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:21:28 PM | message detail | #302
No kidding. KHII has been out for four months, and SSBM has been out for nearly 5 years.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/22/2006 10:22:42 PM | message detail | #303
Right, and the match is happening in an hour.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:25:09 PM | message detail | #304
But you know better than to use sales numbers in this argument. The only time when that becomes relevant when a game has a very small amount of sales.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
HaRRicH | Posted 7/22/2006 10:30:55 PM | message detail | #305
I'm just saying KH2 may not have made the rounds yet, despite being GotY thus far.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:32:25 PM | message detail | #306
Kingdom Hearts II has made plenty of rounds. I doubt KH beats Castlevania without it.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 11:37:21 PM | message detail | #307
Hit-or-miss Lopen continues!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/22/2006 11:59:06 PM | message detail | #308
From: LeonhartForever
I think the hype for SSBB

And that's where you get off track.


o rly?

*sees SSB winning with 58%*

Many social boards used to be pro-Sony and are now pro-Nintendo again which will effect voting, and think Snake in SSB is awesome. I suppose I should have said "I think the hype for the Wii/SSBB". Yes I know Sonic isn't Sony, but the newfound love for Nintendo will help any Nintendo entrant.

Or maybe I'm way off on my analysis. Whatever, I'm 26/28 right now and I'm happy with that.

Btw Lopen, I apologize for my lawling at you, sometimes people are just way off, like I was today. I foresaw a very close match today, but it's not.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 7/22/2006 11:59:55 PM | message detail | #309
o rly?

ya rly.

Hype doesn't do anything at all in contests.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/23/2006 12:04:26 AM | message detail | #310
I never said it was a major factor, only a factor which would propel it to a slight win. I think hype does SOMETHING, not nothing.
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_Seer_ | Posted 7/23/2006 12:11:49 AM | message detail | #311
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 12:12:12 AM | message detail | #312
I only mentioned SSBB hype because many people compared CV/Halo to Sonic/SSB, and I was trying to prove across all levels why SSB > Halo.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/23/2006 12:14:48 AM | message detail | #313
Master Moltar | Posted 7/22/2006 9:15:10 PM | message detail | #043
Analyses posted in the Crew topic. In short, the Crew has Sonic 5-4.

You know what this means, SSB is going to win easily!


Hmm...
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Sonic vs. Super Smash Bros. - Bracket: SSB - Vote: SSB (24/26)
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/23/2006 12:15:09 AM | message detail | #314
I think Snake in SSBB is swaying at least a few MG fans who were unsure who to vote for.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 12:19:44 AM | message detail | #315
o rly?

*sees SSB winning with 58%*


Getting the match right =/= Getting the right argument

Super Smash Brothers is winning for many reasons, of which Super Smash Brothers Brawl is a negligible one.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Agent M | Posted 7/23/2006 12:22:38 AM | message detail | #316
Right, and to give an example, Link vs. Cloud in 2k4 had all sorts of arguments about TP and AC affecting their performances. So suddenly hype is dismissed as a non factor?
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 12:23:07 AM | message detail | #317
I never thought hype was the reason Link won SC2K4.
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SuperiorSnake | Posted 7/23/2006 12:25:29 AM | message detail | #318
Sigh.


Hype is completely insigificant. The people who are hyped about it were likely ones to already be voting for SSB or whatever it may be. I sincerely you doubt any number of people worth mentioning were going to vote Sonic until they heard about SSBB.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 12:26:37 AM | message detail | #319
I'll admit I got about as excited as anybody else here when Super Smash Brothers Brawl was announced, and there was no doubt about voting for Sonic.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 12:40:07 AM | message detail | #320
58.12% (I'd have gone higher, but I'm a sucker for unoriginal %ages!)

I meant to comment on this earlier Lopen, but I did catch your cheap-shot. =P
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Lopen | Posted 7/23/2006 3:37:31 AM | message detail | #321
Hey, hey, hey. That .12% was just a coincidence!

58.12% was the Mega Man/Mario Kart final %. Wow, what a shocker. Can't say I'm complaining, though... in fact, when the contest started I'd have expected SSB to get this on... Devil May Cry, which was supposed to squeak by Sonic.

Eh. I'm not complaining. I prefer SSB, anyway.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/23/2006 3:46:33 AM | message detail | #322
+9 Lopen
+8 yo
+7 mnm
+6 HM
+5 Leon
+4 Soul
+3 Moltar
+2 Ulti
+1 HaRRicH

The Rankings (Through Super Mario Bros./Warcraft)
1. Master Moltar (95)
2. XxSoulxX (80)
3. UltimaterializerX (77)
4. yoblazer33 (75)
5. Leonhart (74)
6. Lopen (71)
7. HaRRicH (57)
7. Heroic Mario (57)
9. therealmnm (56)

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Lugia2 | Posted 7/23/2006 8:21:25 AM | message detail | #323
SSB V Sonic: MK v MM Take 2

Crew goes 5-4, match not really close (I blame SFF, since MM, MK, Sonic, and SSB are all considered Nintendo-ish franchises). Old, established, one player game Vs. hyped, multi-player, new-ish upstart.

Well, this time the upstart didn't follow the script...Fun!
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 11:43:27 AM | message detail | #324
I'm gettin' pretty sick of hearing calls for SFF every time something Sonic-related loses to something Nintendo-related.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 7/23/2006 11:50:19 AM | message detail | #325
I'm gettin' pretty sick of hearing calls for SFF every time something Sonic-related loses to something Nintendo-related.

Same here, but with Mega Man instead of Sonic. But can't argue with facts though... >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2006 12:05:56 PM | message detail | #326
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 12:37:01 PM | message detail | #327
Mega Man's arguable and we've seen more solid evidence of it. Sonic though...outside of Sonic the character, show me where his games should have some strength.



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THE BEST OF 1999: Game of the Year
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Of all of this year's most anticipated upcoming games, which do you most want?
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BEST OF 2001: Best Dreamcast Game of the Year
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Which scheduled February release are you most looking forward to?
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Which series has had the best transition from 2D to 3D?
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Division 16 Round 2: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 vs. Super Mario World
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If you could only buy one company's games ever again, which would you choose?
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BEST OF 2004: Best Game Boy Advance Game
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Top 100 List
Sonic 2, the only Sonic rep on the drop-down list, is #38.



Those are lots of polls and info that show he shouldn't be too strong, despite his icon status and carrying the Genesis. Sonic 2 made the Game Contest because it received the most #1 Genesis nominations and it was #2 in the favorite-Sonic-game poll, so even if it's not THE favorite of the Sonic fans, it's very reasonably close and has a huge overlap with the other game that could say it's #1 (S&K)...and suddenly, when Sonic 2 lost big to SMW despite ALL this kind of information, SFF is suddenly accused because of a RIVALRY? More people believe more SFF was seen in Sonic 2/SMW than CT/Secret of Mana, two RPGs on the same system by the same company, because of a rivalry?! You would think they would stick more to their guns then in a rivalry...

...but whatever...

...now though, people are saying the entire Sonic series is being SFF'd by the two SSB games that're out, and I'm tired of this quick. If you would, please take the time to re-read my analysis...hell, if you like, replace Halo with KH whenever possible...and tell me this doesn't make more sense. For a two-game series, this is both the series with the absolute-strongest game and has its two games on seperate systems. Sonic the character does great for itself, although not quite so much when compared to other Noble Niners...but its games, please, I want to be done with this. There is no more SFF in this match than there is between any other match with two popular series.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/23/2006 12:55:14 PM | message detail | #328
Super Mario Bros....81.13% 97775
Warcraft.................18.87% 22741
TOTAL VOTES..................120516

76.46% of the brackets predicted this match correctly.

Is it just me, or is that prediction percentage kinda low? Anyway, SMB easily beats Warcraft with over 81% of the vote.

Today, I'm going to have to go with HaRRich and say there's little to no SFF here. Sonic's games just aren't as strong as its characters.

Soul - 4
Lopen - 3
HaRRich - 3
Moltar - 3
Ulti - 2
HM - 2
Yoblazer - 1
Leon - 1
Mnm - 0

Lopen gets another point. He's been on fire lately.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/23/2006 1:01:27 PM | message detail | #329
Had I seen that match pic before writing my thing, I never would have picked Sonic to win this for the Crew.

It's also an unfair pic to the max, given that those sprites are nowhere to be found in the SSB "series".

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/23/2006 1:04:46 PM | message detail | #330
SFF is suddenly accused because of a RIVALRY?

No, that's not why. Of course, people have no problem accusing Shadow of an overperformance on Mario for the same reasons, but no, it's not because they're rivals. It's because they're two games with extremely high play rates during a time when they were the two most popular things around.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/23/2006 1:09:04 PM | message detail | #331
SFF = Some Frivolous Factor

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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 1:09:44 PM | message detail | #332
What I'm saying though is that that, other than them both being popular in that generation, why would there be SFF?

As for Shadow, we already know that was a huge anomaly in SONIC's favor, so who's to say Sonic 2 or the Sonic series hasn't been over-performing against other Nintendo contestants? I think we agree that's not the case, but Mario/Shadow does nothing for your case that Sonic's done worse than he's supposed to against other Nintendo contestants.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 1:11:44 PM | message detail | #333
Just to note, I think you're goin' to come back and tell me that I'm not quite getting what you're saying about the high play-rates and the SFF...but what I'm saying is that there are so many other cases of one highly-played games, series, or character faces another where there's no SFF worth noting. Why Sonic 2/SMW? Why Sonic/SSB?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/23/2006 1:16:51 PM | message detail | #334
I never said there was SFF here. I'm not the one who's been claiming that. If you can't see why there would be SFF in SMW/Sonic 2, I don't know what to tell you. Mario/Shadow just tells us that anomalies between the two CAN happen. The overlap is there.

And honestly, if Sonic 2 (what you think is the strongest Sonic game) is only worth 26.82% on Super Smash Brothers Melee alone (I'm willing to say that there is at least a good number of people out there who have played Super Smash Brothers for N64 but not Melee), how is Sonic the series even this close? If his series IS that weak at the top, the whole series in and of itself shouldn't add nearly 20%, not counting what Melee gains from SSB.

In other words, this match in and of itself goes against your argument.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 1:24:04 PM | message detail | #335
Yes, and the anomaly shows that the main mascot of Nintendo, when facing arguably the second/third-strongest Sonic character, will make said-character look as strong as Sonic himself. With that kind of an anomaly, it's hard to say Nintendo ever gets an advantage over Sonic, wouldn't you say?

Seriously though, I don't think that anomaly could be repeated, so I'd like to see it be dropped from here on out if you agree.


Remember when people on the Halo board were saying it didn't deserve to beat CV because it was only a two-game series? Remember how big of a following Sonic once had? Did you know that Sonic is still considered a classic series? I dare say that Sonic's STATUS is stronger than his games, and that helps when he's facing any two-game series, even if it's far-and-away the strongest two-game series in the contest. Why would Sonic doing "this good" suddenly prove my argument wrong?
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SquallidSnake | Posted 7/23/2006 1:28:38 PM | message detail | #336
So you're saying people are voting for Sonic based on status? If Castlevania had beaten Kingdom Hearts, too, then maybe I'd consider that. But no, I don't think Sonic's status is the reason for keeping it this close. If Sonic's games just aren't popular, as you say, then why would people suddenly vote for them in this case? We very rarely see a much weaker entry overperform to a great extent (really, Chrono Trigger characters are the only ones I've seen do it).

With that kind of an anomaly, it's hard to say Nintendo ever gets an advantage over Sonic, wouldn't you say?

No, I wouldn't say that. I'd say it just shows that an anomaly is possible, one way or the other. Zelda as a whole will crush anything Metroid with SFF, but we saw Samus (from the weaker series) pull perhaps a measure of SFF on Ganondorf (from the stronger series).

And in my opinion, Mario's games are stronger than he is, and Sonic is stronger than his games. That's why you can see Sonic characters overperform on Mario characters and Mario games overperform on Sonic games.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 1:38:47 PM | message detail | #337
Sonic's status stays with him in every match, because it's friggin' Sonic. What I'm saying though is that he may be able to take advantage of some of SSB's fans in the same way that CV was able to take advantage of some of Halo's fans. Let Sonic and CV face bigger series like, say...well hell, let's say CV/Sonic took place -- neither one of them would have that advantage over their opponent anymore.

As for your Samus example, Samus is already a good deal stronger than Ganon though, and Ganon didn't do better than what was statistically expected of him...he beat board expectations, sure, but not statistical ones. Also, for what it's worth, Samus arguably avoided SFF when she faced Link in 2k3. I know you have your own theory and I know WW-Link could have been the difference maker, but it's still reasonable to believe...so if Link couldn't SFF her, why would Ganon?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 1:40:39 PM | message detail | #338
That's a bad argument to make with me because I personally believe Link DID SFF her because saying Samus dropped after her first game in eight years makes less sense than SMW/Sonic 2 having no SFF.

And as I've demonstrated before, Samus getting SFF'd in 2003 makes some other things seem less...radical.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 2:00:05 PM | message detail | #339
Okay, but even then, Samus didn't let Ganon get past 40% on her, despite Ganon being from the stronger series. Mario is arguably as strong as Samus and is a notch higher in the Nintendo totem poll, Sonic is from a weaker series, Sonic is a weaker character than Mario, and Shadow is not to Sonic as Ganon is to Link...yet Shadow still managed 45% on Mario.

How wouldn't this go in Sonic's favor, again?

I get what you're saying about Mario's games > Mario and Sonic > Sonic's games, but think about how extreme and ridiculous of a change it would have to go from letting Shadow -- a character from two (maybe three?) Sonic games in its least-popular era -- get 45% on Mario when he should have got about 36%...then Sonic's #1/#2 game (before Shadow ever existed) get 29% on Mario's #3/#4 game when "it should have got 40+%". That's nothing short of bizarre.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 2:05:48 PM | message detail | #340
If anything, Shadow being able to do that despite only being in one game at the time testifies to how much more Sonic is as a character compared to his games. It goes along with your argument of Zelda being able to SFF Metroid to death but Samus arguably being able to resist SFF against Link.

Zelda > Link

Samus > Metroid
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 2:09:31 PM | message detail | #341
Point taken, but if that's the case, then I don't see how you could say that Sonic 2 was SFF'd strongly by SMW when Mario's games >>>> Sonic's games already.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 2:10:17 PM | message detail | #342
I don't see how you could argue that Link to the Past SFF'd Super Metroid when it already much stronger than it anyway.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 2:14:27 PM | message detail | #343
Oh, you mean two two games that were by the same company and were on the same system, not to mention having other cases of SFF between Metroid and LoZ/Mario I could point to?

Me either.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/23/2006 2:16:23 PM | message detail | #344
Yeah, like how Wind Waker SFF'd Metroid Prime, right?

Oh wait.

In other words, not everything holds up the same across the board. Saying "It didn't happen here!" doesn't disprove anything.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 2:19:04 PM | message detail | #345
Tell me LoZ:WW > LoZ:LttP and that MP is noticably stronger than SM. Besides, there were still people who thought there was SFF in that match.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/23/2006 2:20:14 PM | message detail | #346
that MP is noticably stronger than SM

An arguable point due to, believe it or not, SFF.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/23/2006 2:29:45 PM | message detail | #347
In any event, let's move on.

Final Fantasy/Mega Man Analyses! Whoo!
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/23/2006 2:29:48 PM | message detail | #348
Heh...well-played.

Between the Top 100 List, knowing SM was behind SFF, knowing MP was behind Starcraft, and knowing the fanbase is fairly split about the 2D/3D issue, and this poll though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1528

I think it's fair to say that neither one is a big favorite over the other, but SM has the edge. To say MP would noticably be stronger than SM would be an extreme call.
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DoABarrelSoul | Posted 7/23/2006 5:45:14 PM | message detail | #349
Alright, just sent mine in. Sorry about the shortness, but I'm stuck at a relatives house.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/23/2006 5:57:56 PM | message detail | #350
Ultima Division: Round 2 - Match 23 – (1)Final Fantasy vs. (4)Mega Man

Moltar’s Analysis

Final Fantasy
Round 1 – 85.98% vs. Diablo (14.02%)

Final Fantasy makes Diablo look like fodder…ouch.

Mega Man
Round 1 – 58.12% vs. Mario Kart (41.88%)

In a hotly-debated match, Mega Man makes the Mario Kart supporters look bad.

LoZ in Round 1 – Dominant
Mario in Round 1 – Even more dominant
FF in Round 1 – The most dominant

LoZ in Round 2 – Dominant
SMB in Round 2 – Just as dominant

And now it’s time for FF’s turn in Round 2. LoZ did well against MMX, and SMB did just as well on WarCraft. Now it’s Final Fantasy’s turn to flex its muscles. Now, I think MM is stronger than MMX and WarCraft, but FF is also stronger than SMB and LoZ, so…yeah. MM will be lucky to avoid a quadrupling.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Final Fantasy will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Final Fantasy: 80% - Mega Man: 20%



Ulti’s Analysis

Mega Man beating Mario Kart was nice, but its reward was a round two clash against the odds-on favorite to win this contest. The best that MM can hope for is to prove that there is a chink in FF's armor. Personally, I doubt this happens.

Prediction: Final Fantasy with 70.96%



Soul’s Analysis

I'm in a rush and not at home, so this will be pretty quick. FF = Strongest series in the contest. MM is good, but won't be strong enough.

My prediction: FF wins with 78.99% of the vote.



Yoblazer’s Analysis

While Mega Man did have an impressive first round win that crushed the brackets and spirits (and, in my case, the account) of many, it's about to run into an immovable wall. Apart from almost certainly being the strongest contest entry we've ever seen, Final Fantasy had an absolutely jaw-dropping Round 1 win against Diablo. As bad as this is going to look, Mega Man is actually lucky that he gets to face the beast early - it'll probably help him a bit in the X-Stats, if anything. I'm not sure if even FF can manage to outdo Zelda's performance against Mega Man X, but I've learned not to underestimate the Big Three. Watch out for showers of blood.

Final Fantasy
+ Strongest game on this site
+ Several other very popular games
+ Spans several consoles and eras
+ It's the backbone of GameFAQs
+ Credibility up the wazoo
+ Ridiculous first round performance
- Nada

Mega Man
+ HOLY **** THOUSANDS OF GAMES (potentially)
+ Age
+ Credibility up the wazoo
- No SotN or WoW to anchor it
- It's all for naught

My prediction: Final Fantasy def. Mega Man (77-23)



Mnm’s Analysis

Battle Music: Still More Fighting (FF7)

Well, Mega Man got its chance to shine in this contest, and now it comes to an end! Mega Man humbled me in the MM/MK matchup. But Mega Man has no chance in this matchup. Final Fantasy is crushing everything in its path to the finals. Mega Man's goal is to try to reach 30%. It definitely ought to stand up better to FF than Mega Man X did with LoZ, although it still could look pretty ugly…

Bracket: FF

Vote: FF

Prediction: FF with 73.25%
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